kellycute:
you are the ignorant person here. You can’t change history and next time you insult the bini people I will take it up with you. Do you know what you are playing with? Why can’t you drop your message without insult? Be warn!

Keep quiet and get back into your mothers hut!

Martz101:

My friend calm down, you dont need such hate speech and insult, now to the festival our "Ofala" was influenced by the IGUA festival, you can investigate on that in your spare time.

for the kingship system, the western Igbo practice very similar one with the benin people, where royal family are recognised, I'm sure you've had about the saying "igbo ewe eze" it means igbo dont have kings but it only apply To the heartland igbo area which include the imo, abia and some part of ebonyi.

You tried translating the names I listed which even made you look more confused OLISAdebe you said means God preserve but you forgot to tell us that OLISA is a benin word for God, we all know what igbo call God, and in imo or abia that name should be CHIdebe or CHUKWUdebe.

Bros onitsha was not the only region greatly influence by the great benin empire, present day rivers, delta, bayelsa, ondo, ekiti and even lagos was influence too.

So lets stop derailing this thread, but if you really wanna talk more about it, we could continue probably via WhatsApp

Igbo enwe Eze doesnt literally mean Igbos have no king, its figurative. For instance, your Oba has the final say in your village and nobody can contest what he says but the Igbo has a well developed chieftaincy institution that is very powerful like Agbalanze, Nze na Ozo and Ndi ichie...We will question our kings if need be. Again you have no sensible proof to your Olisa claim ...You debate like a little kid,everything is hearsay...lol. I bet you thought its gonna be a walk in the park...no so fast

iwobi starts

OMANBALA1:


Keep quiet and get back into your mothers hut!

i don’t have time to exchange word with you, if you step on my path, I will crush you into pieces. So choose the right thing to do..,, get the f.uck outta here with your inferiority complex.

OMANBALA1:


Not to spoil your fun but Bini Kingdom was great but ''mighty'' is subjective. I dont have problem with people identifying with their chiefdoms but honestly you guys are overhyping your village kingdom. And thats what it is, a little village with a chief magnified into a king and Bini didnt conquer any Igbo town...Its on record! You can salivate over your culture without involving the Igbo nation, thats my only concern. Historically ,Anioma has always spoken Igbo and practiced Igbo culture and worshiped Alusi ,the Igbo oracle . Yes ,there were some influences westward but it doesnt translate into subjugation.

@the bolded. I think the keyword used by Martz101 is 'influence'. I do not understand how within the immediate context of the word used by him, it is now being read as 'conquer'

kellycute:
i don’t have time to exchange word with you, if you step on my path, I will crush you into pieces. So choose the right thing to do..,, get the f.uck outta here with your inferiority complex.

Internet tiger...I am so scared

OMANBALA1:


There is an ulterior motive behind that claim. A lot of internet wars has been fought because people are telling what Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie called DANGERS OF SINGLE STORY. I hate talking about tribal stuff here but there is need for me to alert everybody of the motive behind what these guys are pushing before it becomes the only truth. I never said western Igbos didnt borrow anything but we need to clarify things before your land suddenly becomes mine. Yoruba call stone okuta, Igbo call it okwute,they call water omi,we call it nmili, their amen is ase, Igbo is isee but none of these group can claim ownership of these words because its understood they are shared.

Now ,compare that to my Bini friends who think everything originates from them...Its so irritating. The Igala and Idoma use the Igbo days of the week and we equally borrowed from Igala ...For instance the use of the phrase Agaba Iduu has Igala origin and we equally has alot of Igala migrants in Anambra. We have good relationship with Igala people and they speak good Omanbala dialect. But when people start making sttupid claims you handle them like sttupid people. Most of these Bini people are heavily ignorant but they dont want to learn...People are throwing a hypothetical map around without any major landmarks to back it up.

The Igbo race is probably the most diverse ethnic group in Nigeria and an ancient Igbo adage gives credence to that....Igbo na asu na onu mana akwaa ukwala obulu ofu. Enugu and Ebonyi area call God Obasi and Anambra Olisa but somebody is somewhere claiming they introduced Olisa and has no proof of that....Such person is senseless. They claim Obi of Onicha dresses like Oba of Bini but no proof, you ruled over Onicha but no proof and even Onicha people have no memory of that. Show us your proof other than your fake made up territory in a map.

I appreciate your angle. In all I like such discussions if only we can can do it in truth and fairness without insulting each other. I take pride in all. I read Chinua Achebe avidly as a child and I imbued some igbotic elements therefrom. We can be enlightened by you based on what you know, disagreements can also be done in fairness.

OMANBALA1:


Internet tiger...I am so scared

exactly what I thought. See eh I nor get time to follow you drag.. insult me, Na edo airway I go use meet you lol. On a serious note, drop your point without rancour. No need to insult people

Mujtahida:

@the bolded. I think the keyword used by Martz101 is 'influence'. I do not understand how within the immediate context of the word used by him, it is now being read as 'conquer'

I was reacting to the claim made by prolog2 that Anambra was under Bini rule. Yea, thats some insane sshit! People need to be very careful where they talk and what they say. You all can gather in your Oba palace get drunk and high and make wishes but let it end there.

We need Ndidi back as central defender. I am not comfortable with the way European coaches change our players position[though not only ours ooo that Bolivian at Man U], Mourinho 'killed' Michael[Mikel] Obi,a potent attacking midfielder,Gbenga Okunowo,a solid midfielder was turned into a defender at Barcalona by Van Gaal,now,that coach at Gent has turned Ndidi into a defensive midfielder while the guy is a superb central defender

Under Siasia and Obu,as an u21,he was our best junior defender,two solid world cups. I believe that had Ndidi being allowed to blossom in his natural position,he would have shown more class that Cannavaro and Puyol by now

Mujtahida:

I appreciate your angle. In all I like such discussions if only we can can do it in truth and fairness without insulting each other. I take pride in all. I read Chinua Achebe avidly as a child and I imbued some igbotic elements therefrom. We can be enlightened by you based on what you know, disagreements can also be done in fairness.

Bros , I dont need a seer to know you be correct Igala man...Igala are like our brothers, you wont even know who is who when we sit and talk because of mutual respect and love and I want it to remain that way.
You see ,I am a strong proponent of one Nigeria and I see good and equally some bad in every ethnic group in Nigeria and I believe we can make that country great if we can elect a good leader who will understand the ethnic diversity of the country and find a way to make us all come together and work toward similar goals. I lived in Bini for 6yrs and it was really cool,as in I know that town wella but the Bini people I see online are onto some shiit and somethings it gets dirty.

Umar balling but losing at home

I see you have decided to use your macof name.
It would be nice if you would stope lying for once, I used the name historyworld031 and I never claimed to be a medecin student.
You erronously made that claim. I laughed at your expense for a while until I corrected you. I am a mathematician and my student days have been over for some time now.
The simple fact that you are quoting (with "macof" handle) a comment of mine in which I am outing your alternate handle without mentioning "macof" is a proof of how right I am. Why don't you just use your real identity and stop claiming different ethnicities.

macof:
says the fool who lied that he studied medicine in France, after disgracing you, you had to open another account

I don't even know who this omanbala1 is I haven't noticed any post from that moniker but if a moronic shameless iidiot like you is against that moniker then I'm sure he/she must be an intelligent fellow that exposes good for nothings like you

OMANBALA1:


Bros , I dont need a seer to know you be correct Igala man...Igala are like our brothers, you wont even know who is who when we sit and talk because of mutual respect and love and I want it to remain that way.
You see ,I am a strong proponent of one Nigeria and I see good and equally some bad in every ethnic group in Nigeria and I believe we can make that country great if we can elect a good leader who will understand the ethnic diversity of the country and find a way to make us all come together and work toward similar goals. I lived in Bini for 6yrs and it was really cool,as in I know that town wella but the Bini people I see online are onto some shiit and somethings it gets dirty.

Respect Bro. That's the way forward. It's been quite some time though. I trust you are fine.

prolog2:
I see you have decided to use your macof name.
It would be nice if you would stope lying for once, I used the name historyworld031 and I never claimed to be a medecin student.
You erronously made that claim. I laughed at your expense for a while until I corrected you. I am a mathematician.
The simple fact that you are quoting (with "macof" handle) a comment of mine in which I am outing your alternate handle without mentioning "macof" is a proof of how right I am. Why don't you just use your real identity and stop claiming different ethnicities.

Smh. Your last post had "macof" in it. You are a real shameless fool, displaying so much stupidity and telling so much lies, so disgusting how a human being like this can exist. Stop mentioning me

Kog45:
Yes Martz had a balance view but you know what those who always pointing accusing finger at .................are real culprits when it comes to tribalism and the discussion had exposed a lot,only God can save Nigeria.

Mujtahida let's go back to football,Ezenwa is injured right now with the same ankle injury that ruled him out against Morocco at CHAN final and a second choice to Dauda at Enyimba,a WC bound keeper as second choice in NPFL look somehow

Baba I'm not for Ezenwa, Akpeyi and Uzoho again ooo. If we take them to the WC, I will watch the matches with the mindset that there's no gk between the sticks.

I'm all for recalling Aiyenugba and Ejide. Not one of them oo, the two of them.

Don't respect the guy, he is a fraud.
What logical statement has he actually made ?
You give him proof more than 7 times and he keeps claiming there is no proof.
Himself he proves none of his claims, instead of proving his claims, he just throws insults.
WHat is there to respect in him, he is a troll who keeps claiming different ethnicities while insultin Edo.

Mujtahida:

Respect Bro. That's the way forward. It's been quite some time though. I trust you are fine.

prolog2:
Don't respect te guy, he is a fraud.
What logical statement has he actually made ?
You give him proof more than 7 times and he keeps claiming there is no proof.
Himself he proves none of his claims, instead of proving his claims, he just throws insults.
WHat is there to respect in him, he is a troll who keeps claiming different ethnicities while insultin Edo.

It's okay. This is a football thread. Even though sometimes we make brief incursions into other topics we try as much as possible to avoid heated political/ethno-tribal topics. Cheers

You don't want me to menton you, yet you take time to write a message and modify it after telling me not to mentgion you. Hmm
Learn how to comprehend: the quote you were replying didn't have the word "macof" on it, this is how dumb you are.
It is easy to see through your imposture.
What ethnicity would you be claiming next ?

macof:


Smh. Your last post had "macof" in it. You are a real shameless fool, displaying so much stupidity and telling so much lies, so disgusting how a human being like this can exist. Stop mentioning me

Kog45:
Sir are you reffering to VICTOR MOSES or who

Pls forget it Victor is the real man in eagles though he can be erratic sometimes.

Sir,Samuel Kalu to compete with Moses?pls moses deserves more respect.

I never belittle him....
you and many others here have always emphasised the need for competition in the super eagles.....
Moses inability to release the ball on time can always undermine our counter attacking progress....
I am a fan of him...but when it is obvious he is at a miss road.... better one expose his flaws just same way we praise his strength....

kalu presence in that team gonna add more competition to the team....no one knows what that lad gonna turn to be tomoro.
from experience I have come to see we can sometimes do without Moses but definetely not mikel.....

Moses is a player that have got potentials that could put him on world class if we'll judiciously managed.... good runs and ball control...if only he could work on his set piece and learn release the ball when necessary and a little bit selfless......

prolog2:
You don't want me to menton you, yet you take time to write a message and modify it after telling me not to mentgion you. Hmm
Learn how to comprehend: the quote you were replying didn't have the word "macof" on it, this is how dumb you are.
It is easy to see through your imposture.
What ethnicity would you be claiming next ?

It seems you are looking for a banter today but sorry I don't do such with morons. Well I know you are stupid and a shameless liar
Let me expose you again

That's "macof" clearly highlighted

krattoss:

Roger that gaffer
I guess u gon take over from rohr after the worldcup mundial so u can entrust ur nacho with the freekicks and set pieces. .

But meanwhile for the time been Vic Moses remains our set piece taker and nothing we say gon change that

from.your comments it goes to show that your brain has been wired to think beneath the box....

sometimes you try things other way to see if there could be improvements.....

the fact that I spot some lapses in the team you now begin to make the dumb statement of taking over from rohr after the world cup...
any way it's my fault I never knew all these while I was talking with someone who could not reason holistically and broad.....

prolog2:
You don't want me to menton you, yet you take time to write a message and modify it after telling me not to mentgion you. Hmm
Learn how to comprehend: the quote you were replying didn't have the word "macof" on it, this is how dumb you are.
It is easy to see through your imposture.
What ethnicity would you be claiming next ?

please bro..it's enough let's drop this debate...
it is turning something else and derailing the thread...
I am bini by tribe...and all through my upbringing I have read books some way back in school others through folktales on how mighty the Benin empire was back in the old days...and the conquering of kingdoms and lots more...

but of a truth i believe every tribe in nigeria definetely have same stories that paint them in supremacy..... no one can tell the true story....
so let's leave this story....every ethnic groups will always believe to be the supreme including we the binis....
so let's respect and appreciate each other differences....
good to have such large numbers culminate into one country.....

good afternoon...and how are you doing today?

Are we still discussing eagles on this thread ,e b like say na tribe thread we dey

My mistake, I did say this: "This guy (omanbala1) is clearly the same person as that idiot calling himself macof. He speaks the same way, with the same words.
He (omanbala1) keeps changeing names and claiming different ethnicities while repeating the same venom against Edo.
This troll (omanbala1) needs to be ignored."

I just forgot the word "macof" was on it. Nice of you to use the opportunity to claim I am a liar and that you are "exposing me again".
Very opportunistic of you. I actually recognize when I am wrong, and that comment did have macof on it.
Although it is telling that rather than claim you were not the new handle, you threw in insults on the behest of the alternate handle.
Apart from that, you made the msitake of using the same nomenclature in your alternate handle and also you make the same logics mistakes in your new handle. Why pretend when you have been outed. Have some honnesty and stop lying. Now show me when I claimed being a medical student or a student at all.

macof:


It seems you are looking for a banter today but sorry I don't do such with morons. Well I know you are stupid and a shameless liar
Let me expose you again

That's "macof" clearly highlighted

OMANBALA1:


Bros , I dont need a seer to know you be correct Igala man...Igala are like our brothers, you wont even know who is who when we sit and talk because of mutual respect and love and I want it to remain that way.
You see ,I am a strong proponent of one Nigeria and I see good and equally some bad in every ethnic group in Nigeria and I believe we can make that country great if we can elect a good leader who will understand the ethnic diversity of the country and find a way to make us all come together and work toward similar goals. I lived in Bini for 6yrs and it was really cool,as in I know that town wella but the Bini people I see online are onto some shiit and somethings it gets dirty.

bro...please it's okay...
let's drop this debate and return back to foot ball.....
issue as regard osayi's origin dragged us into this....

andrew444:


You dey mind that guy,him dey happy say conte bench moses,Moses is tired and he rested him,I don't see zapacosta taking his spot.

Moses is tired?
says a Chelsea staff and one who work with conte....

Humility017:

Moses is tired?
says a Chelsea staff and one who work with conte....

You are happy Moses is benched,and you prayed for Moses to be benched...says by a super eagles fan who hates Moses so much

gamaliel9:
We need Ndidi back as central defender. I am not comfortable with the way European coaches change our players position[though not only ours ooo that Bolivian at Man U], Mourinho 'killed' Michael[Mikel] Obi,a potent attacking midfielder,Gbenga Okunowo,a solid midfielder was turned into a defender at Barcalona by Van Gaal,now,that coach at Gent has turned Ndidi into a defensive midfielder while the guy is a superb central defender

Under Siasia and Obu,as an u21,he was our best junior defender,two solid world cups. I believe that had Ndidi being allowed to blossom in his natural position,he would have shown more class that Cannavaro and Puyol by now

he's doing exceptionally well as a DM....we cannot be doing coulda, woulda, shoulda at this point.

Humility017:

Moses is tired?
says a Chelsea staff and one who work with conte....

azzin. This kain thing, you go just talk one, dey go

This prolog fellow now, no be football carry am come, na beef with omanbala. Please, two of them should take it outside

safarigirl:
azzin. This kain thing, you go just talk one, dey go

This prolog fellow now, no be football carry am come, na beef with omanbala. Please, two of them should take it outside

Lolzzz....
you're funny...
both of them really have scores to settle...
anyway...I will want us return to foot ball...not just football but the super eagles discourse....

good afternoon and trust your day is going on well?

gamaliel9:
We need Ndidi back as central defender. I am not comfortable with the way European coaches change our players position[though not only ours ooo that Bolivian at Man U], Mourinho 'killed' Michael[Mikel] Obi,a potent attacking midfielder,Gbenga Okunowo,a solid midfielder was turned into a defender at Barcalona by Van Gaal,now,that coach at Gent has turned Ndidi into a defensive midfielder while the guy is a superb central defender

Under Siasia and Obu,as an u21,he was our best junior defender,two solid world cups. I believe that had Ndidi being allowed to blossom in his natural position,he would have shown more class that Cannavaro and Puyol by now

This is my stand and we would have two solid central defenders by now