frer8:



About true.But still we have the corruption rank that can tell the most corrupt of the corrupt.Corruption is the biggest impediment to Africa's development!

i dont think so....do you think western nations are not corrupt too....??

how do you measure it....??...

they are using that index to paint you black....stealing is stealing....simple....

obaaderemi:
Hahaha, na kibera talk.

Hahahahahah! Kibera kwa!

Mr. RVP should read this.... Before he claims that the figures in the post are fabricated, he should take note that its coming from the Kenyan media

https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/business/article/2001240721/nairobi-ranked-tenth-among-top-20-african-cities-in-consumer-size-economic-activity

I think Kenyans generally like attention.. ..Maybe they feel like they aren't being noticed well enough on the continent so they infiltrate other countries cyber space to seek attention..
.They started a beef with South Africa on Twitter then moved to Nigeria and them Ghana.... why didn't they engage the Egyptians? they would have been killed on cyber space by those guys

If they based this or weighted this based on Nigeria cooked GDP - then I am not surprised.

Danielnino00:
Mr. RVP should read this.... Before he claims that the figures in the post are fabricated, he should take note that its coming from the Kenyan media

https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/business/article/2001240721/nairobi-ranked-tenth-among-top-20-african-cities-in-consumer-size-economic-activity

Nope.It coz kenyans are amongst Africa most-educated & savvy people.That is why Kenya is Africa most developed NON-MINERAL economy for long time. Kenyans don't depend on extractive industries - like gold or diamond or oil - but on their hard-work and ingenuity. Therefore there is very little some of these countries can tell us. Joburg has tonnes of gold. Nigeria is swimming in Oil. Luanda is also a sea of oil. Ghana has gold and oil now. What can they tell us...remove their extractive sectors and they are nothing.

For a second year in a row, the Intelligent Community Forum recently named the Kenyan capital Africa’s “most intelligent” city, the only African city to feature on their shortlist of 21 cities throughout the world for 2015.

Danielnino00:
I think Kenyans generally like attention.. ..Maybe they feel like they aren't being noticed well enough on the continent so they infiltrate other countries cyber space to seek attention..
.They started a beef with South Africa on Twitter then moved to Nigeria and them Ghana.... why didn't they engage the Egyptians? they would have been killed on cyber space by those guys

rvp2017:
If they based this or weighted this based on Nigeria cooked GDP - then I am not surprised.

You must always find a means of rigging yourself out when you are caught . You mustn't confirm to your bias always, it's becoming childish l must say.

Find me independent consumption & expenditure data - like says from Visa or master card. Anything that relies on COOKED LAGOS OR NIGERIA GDP will not fly with me.

Daejoyoung:

You must always find a way to riggle yourself out when you are caught . it is not a must to confirm to your bias always, it's becoming childish l must say.

Nigeria despite many bad Nollywood movies- has nothing on oscars
Here is Yale alumni - Lupita Nyongo - brought up in Kenya -winning an oscar!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African_Academy_Award_winners_and_nominees

Nigeria despite sending millions of their people as slave to US and many more who emigrate daily - have transferred the same low ambition thuggish lifestyle to US.

Kenya harvard student gave US their first black president - while Nigeria gives the world drug dealers since the 15th century.

Amhrest alumni talking to Harvard Alumni - while you elect Army bonobos like Buhair or Olesegun - our former president was London school of economics alumni -and Nigeria expect to move ahead with army bonobos. Sani Abach did quite a number in damaging Nigiera - and for the brief period of GoodLuck - it's been one army bonobo after another since 1960s..and you're suprised why you're UNDER-PERFORMING.

This guy can Defend anything ooo.
This guy will tell you Kenyans are the most beautiful people on the continent
The most talented people
The most hardworking people
The most vocal people
The most.......


And so many irrelevant silly topics

It seems with all your claims, no country in Africa can outshine Kenya in every spheres

BTW hope its not that this guy needs to be rehabilitated psychologically away from Nigeria's issues

Making me feel that Kenya is much more advanced than Nigeria and that Kenya is a country outside Africa makes me laugh

rvp2017:
Dream on. Visit Angola's Luanda if you don't like Nairobi and see what 10yrs of Oil can do - then go back to Nigeria and ask where 50yrs of Oil has gone. Don't even delude yourself about Cairo or Joburg.Luanda in 10yrs has 50 sky-scrappers(100M talk building) completed - about twice what you got in 50yrs. Always remember Nairobi is way nicer than Lagos can dream about.



Then wait for Dangote to do everything that your gov has been unable to do 60yrs since independence.

i dont understand your arguments....goverment shouldnt be the investing much in a society....only in things of national interest,like roads and rail to move police and army,enough food,health and such....

this is how they do it in western nations....

mostly its private people that invest most in a nation......

do you kenyans even understand economics sef.............

justtoodark:


i dont understand your arguments....goverment shouldnt be the investing much in a society....only in things of national interest,like roads and rail to move police and army,enough food,health and such....

this is how they do it in western nations....

mostly its private people that invest most in a nation......

do you kenyans even understand economics sef.............

Lol, they don't!! Even d oldest among them doesn't. National disgrace.

[quote author=obaaderemi post=66818824]Kikuyu1 does not respect his age. He is allowing small boys to play with his balls

Negro,was such a metaphor necessary? Really,nigga!?

TayserMahiri:


Not to start beef with you but sometimes you sound like you are afraid life might end sooner for you.

It takes time,dude! compare Malaysia and Kenya; they weren't always like that and in the late 70s we were ahead of them! 4 decades of 6 to 7% annual growth will see us there,I'm 40 smth and the developments shown here convinces me of that. We could take refuge in fake figures and laughable fiction but don't,instead we acknowledge our problems and don't fall for hollow emotional chest thumping.

Many of us look at the West and assume they were always like that. Hell no! Colonialism,resource rape and lop sided trade rules have helped them immensely. Fyi,check out the French pact coloniale with its ex colonies allowing them to hold 85% now 65% of their currency in the Paris treasury without publishing an annual dividend or statement of accounts. This money is estimated at 500 bn euros.
Read up on how Britain's nobility and the Royal fam forced the Chinese to buy opium grown in India for sale to their own citizens for almost 2 centuries:imagine how much money they made!?

rvp2017:
Share the link. And this maybe true - however we are doing something about it - our president just cameback from Cuba and we will be taking 150 cuban doctors - plus massively investing in universal health care - the last few years we bought medical equipments worth 350MUSD from generic electric - ensuring more than 100 hospital have the latest in theatre.

In the meantime I really doubt Nigeria health sector is better than Kenya.

No its not. We lead in all relevant stats child,maternal mortality,morbidity,longevity etc etc.

rvp2017:
The entire country faith and hopes lies in one man. DANGOTE.

Exactly! What if smth happens to Dangote,GASSPP,or he changes his mind? What then Naijjans?

justtoodark:


kenyans are natural liars....i lived many years with them...they like to show off...

according to them,even their babies in diapers is already in university....this is how smart they love to potrait themselves....

they remember me of igbos....

but if u can say "they remember me of igbos" its understandable why they show off to you...coz you are illiterate.

samsobo24:
This guy is the joke of the century, with the current infrastructure,Lagos Economy still outshines the whole of your country, what if these projects becomes a reality. I tell you with sincerity that Lagos Economy will be bigger than the whole of East Africa.

We are talking about real hard core projects and infrastructure, you are talking about high rise and skyscrapers, for what

The average man on the street of Nairobi wouldn't live in tall structures.
If you claim that Skyscrappers a little bit shows investments, business wise,are you saying that Nairobi is more developed than Lagos business wise.

BTW I have always told you Lagos is too big to compare with your little kid Nairobi.what will happen to our skyline if we have this again.

* EAC

* Lekki smart city

*Imperial business city

* Orange island

* Grace field Phoenix

* The high rise project going on at LAG Island

* and other individual office buildings around the Island and Lagos at large

Look,in the coming months or maybe few years,I will compare Yaba,Oshodi,Oyingbo in Lagos with your underdeveloped Nairobi

Btw,buildings and shiny personal property aren't a substitute for REAL PROGRESS AND DEVELOPMENT which is quantified by easily verified stats!

rvp2017:
If they based this or weighted this based on Nigeria cooked GDP - then I am not surprised.

Top of the list was Eqypt's capital city Cairo, followed by Johannesburg (South Africa), Lagos(Nigeria), Luanda(Angola) and number five was Democratic Republic of Congo's Kinshasha.

Read more at: https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/business/article/2001240721/nairobi-ranked-tenth-among-top-20-african-cities-in-consumer-size-economic-activity

Even allowing for Lagos by some strange measure the presence of Kinshasa ahead of us,Durban and Casablanca makes me call BS!?

Yeah - I conceded the physician density to Nigeria- not that it's matters.Meanwhile the first Cuban doctors arrive in July
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/news/First-batch-of-Cuban-doctors-to-arrive-July/539546-4488018-fmk5ki/index.html

I think if Uhuru pulls the universal health Insurance (ensuring everyone has NHIF - and NHIF covers in/outpatient & all treatment) - then he would have pulled out 5-10% of kenyans out of poverty - in 5 yrs. Every yr about 2% of our people sink to poverty because of misfortune of having one or two family members hospitalized.

If NHIF can be able to control say 1$B annually in premiums - then that would provide huge & regular financing to public and private hospitals - and we will see huge investment all over the country in hospitals. There will be no need to turn away anybody from an hospital (except maybe foreigners) or to hold onto them until they pay.

Of the big 4 - I am excited about this one - and I think it the easiest to pull. Manufacturing and Housing - are not easy stuff. Also Food Security is generally linked to poverty & there is very little we can do about semi-arid kenyans who will continue to starving - except accelerate social program - cash transfers.

kikuyu1:


No its not. We lead in all relevant stats child,maternal mortality,morbidity,longevity etc etc.

kikuyu1:


Btw,buildings and shiny personal property aren't a substitute for REAL PROGRESS AND DEVELOPMENT which is quantified by easily verified stats!

Its officially proven that u are confused..

rvp2017:
Yeah - I conceded the physician density to Nigeria- not that it's matters.Meanwhile the first Cuban doctors arrive in July
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/news/First-batch-of-Cuban-doctors-to-arrive-July/539546-4488018-fmk5ki/index.html

I think if Uhuru pulls the universal health Insurance (ensuring everyone has NHIF - and NHIF covers in/outpatient & all treatment) - then he would have pulled out 5-10% of kenyans out of poverty - in 5 yrs. Every yr about 2% of our people sink to poverty because of misfortune of having one or two family members hospitalized.

If NHIF can be able to control say 1$B annually in premiums - then that would provide huge & regular financing to public and private hospitals - and we will see huge investment all over the country in hospitals. There will be no need to turn away anybody from an hospital (except maybe foreigners) or to hold onto them until they pay.

Of the big 4 - I am excited about this one - and I think it the easiest to pull. Manufacturing and Housing - are not easy stuff. Also Food Security is generally linked to poverty & there is very little we can do about semi-arid kenyans who will continue to starving - except accelerate social program - cash transfers.

Kenyan doctors must be so quacky for your govt to import doctors from Cuba... ... Most countries seeking for foreign medical experts usually look at the US,UK,Germany, Canada and India... But Cuba?

Danielnino00:




Kenyan doctors must be so quacky for your govt to import doctors from Cuba... ... Most countries seeking for foreign medical experts usually look at the US,UK,Germany, Canada and India... But Cuba?

I am just surprised. What are the Cuban doctors coming to do that the Kenyan doctors can not do? I am sure the Cubans would be handsomely paid.

kikuyu1:


Btw,buildings and shiny personal property aren't a substitute for REAL PROGRESS AND DEVELOPMENT which is quantified by easily verified stats!

Extend the same to your guy who was showing Angola Skyscrapers.
Turning things around according to the arguments that suits you.

You're ignorant. Like most Nigerias. Cuba has the best medical health care for a country of it's size and it's development. I am suprised you guys don't even know that? The Cubans are some of world most sough out doctors - while you think OIL bring forex - CUBA most VALUABLE EXPORT - is medical practitioners - and trust me - they make more money than Nigeria.And so if you're looking for something - to take you out of the Oil misery - you have head-start - nigeria physician are not badly off - and this is where you need to copy CUBA.

The CUBA health-care systems is simply the BEST in the world. And it's a developing country. And that is what KENYA is busy doing...being a developing country doesn't stop you from having the best electricity (24-7), best medical care (like cuba), the best infrastructure, and the best banking!

https://elpais.com/elpais/2017/02/10/inenglish/1486729823_171276.html

CUBA stats
Life expectancy at birth 79 (years) 2012
Life expectancy at age 60 22 (years) 2012
Fertility rate 1.4 (children born/woman) 2013
Number of live births 107.1 (thousands) 2013
Maternal mortality ratio 80 (per 100,000 live births) 2013
Under-five mortality rate 6 (deaths/1,000 live births) 2013
Number of deaths 95.9 (thousands) 2013
Deaths due to HIV/AIDS 2.6 (per 100,000 population) 2012
Total health expenditure per capita 2,475 (Intl $) 2014
Total health expennditure as % of GDP 11.1 2014

Danielnino00:

Kenyan doctors must be so quacky for your govt to import doctors from Cuba... ... Most countries seeking for foreign medical experts usually look at the US,UK,Germany, Canada and India... But Cuba?

rvp2017:
You're ignorant. Like most Nigerias. Cuba has the best medical health care for a country of it's size and it's development. I am suprised you guys don't even know that? The Cubans are some of world most sough out doctors - while you think OIL bring forex - CUBA most VALUABLE EXPORT - is medical practitioners - and trust me - they make more money than Nigeria.And so if you're looking for something - to take you out of the Oil misery - you have head-start - nigeria physician are not badly off - and this is where you need to copy CUBA.

The CUBA health-care systems is simply the BEST in the world. And it's a developing country. And that is what KENYA is busy doing...being a developing country doesn't stop you from having the best electricity (24-7), best medical care (like cuba), the best infrastructure, and the best banking!

https://elpais.com/elpais/2017/02/10/inenglish/1486729823_171276.html

CUBA stats
Life expectancy at birth 79 (years) 2012
Life expectancy at age 60 22 (years) 2012
Fertility rate 1.4 (children born/woman) 2013
Number of live births 107.1 (thousands) 2013
Maternal mortality ratio 80 (per 100,000 live births) 2013
Under-five mortality rate 6 (deaths/1,000 live births) 2013
Number of deaths 95.9 (thousands) 2013
Deaths due to HIV/AIDS 2.6 (per 100,000 population) 2012
Total health expenditure per capita 2,475 (Intl $) 2014
Total health expennditure as % of GDP 11.1 2014

Truths and facts! As usual! Here's Forbes mag,have you heard of them?

The Cuban government reportedly earns $8 billion a year in revenues from professional services carried out by its doctors and nurses, with some 37,000 Cuban nationals currently working in 77 countries. The socialist regime allows the government to collect a portion of the incomes earned by Cuban workers abroad.

For example, in 2013 Cuba inked a deal with the Brazilian Health Ministry to send 4,000 Cuban doctors to underserved regions of Brazil by the end of the year – worth as much as $270 million a year to the Castro government. By the end of 2014, Brazil’s Mais Medicos program, meaning “More Doctors,” had brought in 14,462 health professionals – 11,429 of which came from Cuba.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/billfrist/2015/06/08/cubas-most-valuable-export-its-healthcare-expertise/#4c920681195e

The WHO says

According to the UN’s World Health Organization, Cuba’s health care system is an example for all countries of the world.

The Cuban health system is recognized worldwide for its excellence and its efficiency. Despite extremely limited resources and the dramatic impact caused by the economic sanctions imposed by the United States for more than half a century, Cuba has managed to guarantee access to care for all segments of the population and obtain results similar to those of the most developed nations.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/salim-lamrani/cubas-health-care-system-_b_5649968.html

nwoke37:


Nothing in Kenya...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5XJz71-55o

He has plans to establish a cement factory in Kenya I believe... but complained about the corruption
Corruption is killing Africa..

I've heard from many Nigerians that Aliko Dangote is a beneficiary of Nigerian prebendalism and was and is very connected amongst Nigeria's corrupt political class. Whenever Dangote tries to invest outside Nigeria - especially outside West Africa, he faces a situation where he's just like any other businessman with no connection advantage at best or where it's his business rivals who are connected at worst. This is the reason he's always complaining about other African nations being corrupt whenever he tries to invest outside Nigeria. He complained about Tanzania, Ethiopia and now Kenya. That's reality hitting him hard - sometimes you're so used to corruption working in your favor it's hard to comprehend fair competition or corruption working against you.

rvp2017:
You're ignorant. Like most Nigerias. Cuba has the best medical health care for a country of it's size and it's development. I am suprised you guys don't even know that? The Cubans are some of world most sough out doctors - while you think OIL bring forex - CUBA most VALUABLE EXPORT - is medical practitioners - and trust me - they make more money than Nigeria.And so if you're looking for something - to take you out of the Oil misery - you have head-start - nigeria physician are not badly off - and this is where you need to copy CUBA.

The CUBA health-care systems is simply the BEST in the world. And it's a developing country. And that is what KENYA is busy doing...being a developing country doesn't stop you from having the best electricity (24-7), best medical care (like cuba), the best infrastructure, and the best banking!

https://elpais.com/elpais/2017/02/10/inenglish/1486729823_171276.html

CUBA stats
Life expectancy at birth 79 (years) 2012
Life expectancy at age 60 22 (years) 2012
Fertility rate 1.4 (children born/woman) 2013
Number of live births 107.1 (thousands) 2013
Maternal mortality ratio 80 (per 100,000 live births) 2013
Under-five mortality rate 6 (deaths/1,000 live births) 2013
Number of deaths 95.9 (thousands) 2013
Deaths due to HIV/AIDS 2.6 (per 100,000 population) 2012
Total health expenditure per capita 2,475 (Intl $) 2014
Total health expennditure as % of GDP 11.1 2014

We know Cuban doctors are among the world's best. At least we saw examples of this in James Bond's Die Another Day. The person you are insulting i am sure is aware of this too.But will it not be better to train Kenyan doctors in Cuba and make them transfer the skills to Africa than asking them to come and help do stuffs Kenyan doctors can do? So that advice you gave Nigeria is relevant for Kenya as well, especially with the number of tourists you get plus the fact your agriculture seems to be failing.

Please the ignorant bozo didn't know that. Okay Kenya is also sending student to study in Cuba but what we are embarking on is ambitious plan to ensure we completely revamp our public healthcare. The first business is to ensure everyone has a medical insurance - this is probably Africa first.

obaaderemi:
We know Cuban doctors are among the world's best. At least we saw examples of this in James Bond's Die Another Day. The person you are insulting i am sure is aware of this too.But will it not be better to train Kenyan doctors in Cuba and make them transfer the skills to Africa than asking them to come and help do stuffs Kenyan doctors can do? So that advice you gave Nigeria is relevant for Kenya as well, especially with the number of tourists you get plus the fact your agriculture seems to be failing.