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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 3:48pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
Exactly - and that is Nigeria only hope. NairobiWalker: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by naijalander: 4:20pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
Dangote is obviously not Nigeria's only hope. Aliko only benefited from having an extensive network of influencial contacts, he himself is not a politician. Dangote's businesses do quite well outside of Nigeria. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by naijalander: 4:23pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
Your right. Kenyans generally have low self esteem. Always seeking to associate themselves with other people just to feel relevant. Danielnino00: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 4:25pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
kikuyu1: well , if some thing happens to him their other Nigerians that already replacing him, they are doing great even better than him, example been Abdulsalm rabiu, this man produces every thing dangote produces, sugar factories, cement........, he his currently second highest producer of cements and sugar in west Africa. Still On Cement War Between Dangote and BUA https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2018/01/10/still-on-cement-war-between-dangote-and-bua/ Bua Group set to expand operations across Africa(including east Africa) http://www.financialnigeria.com/bua-group-set-to-expand-operations-across-africa-sustainable-photovideo-details-344.html lets now talk about refineries In OIL,Gas, chemicals refineries, dangote is currently building a refinariy of 650000bB/P while Petrolex owned by a Nigerian (Segun Adebutu) has builts oli and gas refinery and plan to increase $5.6bn oil refinery in Nigeria Petrolex Plans $5b Investments in Ogun https://www.businesspost.ng/2018/03/23/petrolex-plans-5b-investments-in-ogun/ Petrolex Group – Building the Biggest Oil Mega City in Africa 1 Like
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Daejoyoung: 4:26pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
NairobiWalker:Dangote is also not doing badly outside Nigeria. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 4:33pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
rvp2017:Nigga, Dangote is not alone, their are other Nigerians doing much more than him, he only gets so much publicity as result of his massive expansion and media hype, please search for the richest Nigerians on google, Now let me ask you this ,What do you think would happen to Kenya if Indians and Somalis ( who actually contribute over 35% of Nairobi IGR) decides to leave and go back to India and Somali respectively ? What do you think would happen to your industrial Areas, Trade and commerce, Residential estates? 4 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by naijalander: 4:33pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
kikuyu1: Your not making any sense, a nation if 150m people relying on 1 guy? does that even make sense to you? Dangote is not even that big a deal in Nigeria, there are rich entrpreneurs every where in Nigeria and there is plenty proof of it. How many Kenyans ever make it to Forbes top 10, how many Kenyan companies can be compared to your average Nigerian multinational. This is the dumbest statement you have made on this thread. 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 4:45pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
rvp2017:ok let agree Kenya does not depends on any mineral resources, same can be said to Lagos who actually have larger economy than that of Kenya , Lagos GDP hits $136b, joins league of fastest developing mega cities in the world (PwC) http://businesshilights.com.ng/lagos-gdp-hits-136b-joins-league-of-fastest-developing-mega-cities-in-the-world/
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Daejoyoung: 4:56pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
naijalander:lol, it's interesting he thinks Dangore is our only industrialist, he doesn't know that for a long time we have been exporting industrialists, Doctors and even lawyers to our West African neighbours. We have so many Entrepreneurs across the country and Lagos is a melting pot of so many businesses both oil dependent and non oil dependent. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 5:17pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
Please not the cooked GDP again 68816419: 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 5:18pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
naijalander:Hahahah so dumb as Kenyans, the funny things is that., the richest Kenyans are not original Kenyans rather they are Indians, aboriginal Kenyans can never make it to Forbes top 50, they only bark but no actions, the blacks Kenyans gat no cash, they are damn too poor to even travel around the world . imagine the top richest people in Kenya are not even original Kenyans rather Indians , bellow is the list of the richest so called Kenyans. 1 Bhimji Depar Shah & Family- NET-WORTH; KSH. 71.4 Billion ($700 Million) 2 Narendra Raval- NET WORTH KSH. KSH 40.8 Billion($400Million) 3. Naushad Merali - NETWORTH ; Ksh 37.7 Billion ($370Million) WHO EVER TAKES BLACK KENYANS SERIOUS IS DAMN GOAT !!! 1 Like
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 5:20pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
Remove Oil from Nigeria - and you've nothing. All the guys who have made money are those who've grabbed themselves some Oil field. 68816419: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 5:20pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
rvp2017:So u called PWC ,world bank Research "cooked "...something must be wrong with your thinking faculty! |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 5:22pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
rvp2017:Does Lagos also depends on oil money ? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 5:22pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
The richest black kenyans are not listed - because they are mostly politicians - the Kenyatta & Moi family can ran circle around Dangote. But they don't want it mentioned because they've hidden their wealth through lawyers & nominee accounts. 68816419: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 5:23pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
Yemi Kale - is not PWC or World Bank - whatever a country cooks - WB & IMF have no recourse - Academicians can and have questioned Nigeria GDP - and we've shown enough evidence that it's cooked. If WB believed you GDP for a minute - they would loan you some money. Obviously they don't. 68816419: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 5:34pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
I know counting Dangote & few oil barons who've rigged Nigeria corrupt systems and skimmed off your oil really delude you guys but that is nothing when rest of Nigeria is a huge slums. If you're intersted in counting millionaires..count them all. Kenya had 8,500 millionaires and Nigeria 16,000 - not long time ago - despite Nigeria being nearly 4-5 times big!! If am not wrong - Kenya is closing the gap. 2016 data - – Kenya 9,400 - Nigeria 15,400 and South Africa(40,400)! 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 5:38pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
[quote author=rvp2017 post=66854027]Remove Oil from Nigeria - and you've nothing. All the guys who have made money are those who've grabbed themselves some Oil field. [/quote Dangote (sugar,salt,cement....), Abdulsalam Rabiu (Same as Dongote) , Mike Adenuga (Telecommunication owner of the second largest mobile network in Africa) ,Tony Elumelu (UBA Banks, with over 15 branches across Africa including your own Kenya ),Jim Oviah (Zenith bank,Visafone ,Banking, Telecom), ,Oba Otudeko(owner of Honeywell group, one of the largest food processing player in Africa),Cosmos Maduka (Coscharis Group,largest automobile player in West Africa ),Pascal Dozie – MTN Nigeria, Diamond Bank (Banking, Telecom),Fola Adeola – GTBank( 21 presence across the world, with branches all over Kenya) do they grabbed themselves some Oil field? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 5:40pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
2016 data for the wealthy if you want to count - Kenya (9,400) and Nigeria (15,400) and South Africa(40,400). We don't have to go through Dangote your savior wealth - because I told you we've about 10 politicians in kenya with lots of wealth hidden. [quote author=68816419 post=66854445][/quote] |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 5:43pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
rvp2017:World Bank Approves $200m Credit to Nigeria to Support Agricultural ...World Bank Approves $200m Credit to Nigeria to Support Agricultural ... http://www.worldbank.org/en/news/press-release/2017/03/23/world-bank-approves-200m-credit-to-nigeria-to-support-agricultural-productivity-and-improve-livelihoods World Bank approves $500m loan for SIP Read more at: https://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/05/world-bank-approves-500m-loan-sip-presidential-aide/ |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 5:45pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
If you're still interested in measure the wealthy. Here is the data I have seen. Nigeria - 4 $billionaires -360 multi-millionaire - about 16,000 millionaires. Kenya - 0$ billionaires - 340 multi-millionaire - about 10,000 millionaires. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 5:46pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
Yeah that is about how much they think of your GDP. 200M dollars. You're not even serious man and if you can come here and shows us 200, 500 M dollars. Please get a grip of yourself. 500B dollar economy borrowing 200m. Do you even understand what we are talking about here. Kenya with it's 80B GDP - has 2B dollar stand-by facility at IMF - we can take it whenever we want. It like an overdraft of 2B dollars. 68816419: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 5:48pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
rvp2017:Mad boy, and who told that we don't have thousands of politicians with hidden wealth, Kenyans does not have any billionaires on Forbes list but Nigerians have over 8 billionaires !
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 5:52pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
rvp2017: I just confirmed what other guys said about you that your actually ruining mad i just gave you few incidences where loans was awarded to Lagos in combat to what you said about Lagos not getting loans from international bodies and you are here spewing trash. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 5:52pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
Sani Abacha & other politicians who is not listed there probably owns Nigeria. That is where you oil went. As far as the number of wealthy. Nigeria - has 4 billion dollar millionares - 360 multi- million (10M ) and 16,000 millionaires. Nothing impressive - Kenya has 0billionaires - 340 multi-millionaires- and 10,000 milionaires South Africa - has 7billionares -620 multi- and 40,000 millioanires..dollar terms. 68816419: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 5:53pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
rvp2017:source please? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 5:54pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
Kenya has $2B dollar overdraft facility with IMF. Why on earth would you borrow 200M dollars if you're a 500B economy. Borrow 5B dollars..at least even 1% of your GDP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why even borrow from WB or IMF - if you're 500B dollar economy?? unless you cooked it ! overcooked it. Do you think South Africa go borrowing 200M from WB? 500B dollar economy should already have serious debt market - Nigeria debt market - should be lending to kenya. 68816419: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Daejoyoung: 5:57pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
rvp2017:He spoke of only one state. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 5:58pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
Did you google - even Nairaland has it https://www.nairaland.com/3949042/lagos-4-billionaires-360-multi-millionaires Here is LAGOS versus Nairobi. *Lagos: Total wealth held in the city amounts to US$120 billion. Home to 6,800 millionaires, 360 multi-millionaires and 4 billionaires. Major sectors in the city include: real estate & construction, telecoms, transport, financial services and basic materials. *Nairobi: Total wealth held in the city amounts to US$55 billion. Home to 6,800 millionaires and 280 multi-millionaires (no billionaires). Major sectors in the city include: financial services, real estate & construction, retail, tourism, FMCG, telecoms and basic materials. 68816419: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 5:59pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
rvp2017:You think Nigeria is Kenya where your people depend on foreigners as their only hope. Below are some Kenyans lamenting because a Nigerian they pinned their hope of lifting them out of poverty on dashed it. They are your elders and they dare not say the rubbish you their sons are saying here posting blanket and gin pictures. How can Kenyans place so much on one man to pull them out of poverty? There's a lot you guys are covering up about the Kenyan situation. Your stats are overcooked like your ugali. https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/business/article/2000201814/hopes-of-dangote-s-sh35b-cement-plant-dashed-as-investor-vanishes “We have lost hope in Dangote. He is no longer in our minds. He is a wealthy man but his wealth is not benefiting us at all,” said a disappointed Francis Munyalo, capturing the mood of the residents. Mr Munyalo, a member of Ene Mali (wealth owners) , a group of farmers whose land sits on massive deposits of limestone, said the community was now open to other investors. Chrispus Mutinda, another resident said they were shocked by the sudden change of heart by Dangote, saying with such a huge investment, the entire community would have been pulled out of poverty. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2017: 6:02pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
He wanted concessions and we told him to hit the road. Kenya cement industry is very vibrant and there is massive investment. Dangote can only compete if he get unfair advantage - free land - free electricity - tax holiday- and you wonder why nigeria has zero taxes collected outside what SHell and oil companies pay All you wealth is now held by one man - and he pays no taxes - if he paid taxes - annually Nigeria gov would get maybe 1B dollars from him. How is Dangote going to help you if he doesn't want to pay taxes. He talk a big game - then ask for 10 yr tax holiday. CONMAN.Ethiopian gave him nearly everything free and TZ too - now Magufuli has been putting him under scrutiny. Kenya is way too smart for your saviour Dangote. No free land. No free electricity. No tax holiday. Come and compete with everyone. It's a free open door policy liberalized market economy we ran. You don't need to see a politician - just come - register you company in a day and start business the next day. rvp2017: 3 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samsobo24(m): 6:21pm On Apr 19, 2018 |
rvp2017:This funny comedian,and yet Nigerian entrepreneurs come top on Forbes list,both old,young,and even female Entrepreneurs. So you have forgotten Tony Elumelu Empowering the jobless youth of your country.What of the Owner of one of the Leading ICT equipment and gadget company, Zinox. The beauty of Nigeria Entrepreneurship is that,we are the one leading in terms of indigenous ownership of Business establishments |
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