superhumanist:


Their religion fit in with their culture. Christianity has mixed over a thousand years with European culture. Christianity does not work with Asian and African cultures.

And let us talk about barbarism.

Here are the highlights of your christian Europe;
*Witch Burnings
*Slavery
*Crusades aka christian terrorism
*Catholic torture

Their religion was not as terrible and wasn't keeping them badly underdeveloped like that of Africa. How barbaric were their religion and values compared to that of Africa?

hopefulLandlord:

ATR is barbaric because all the info you think you know about it is from outside ATR lol. Majority of the info you got are from Christians themselves and our missionaries actually rewrote history to make ATR look worse than it actually was so Christianity can be given more credit

How many ATR practitioners have you sat down with to learn about their religion? I'm guessing none

Christianity is now spreading in China, you'll see history repeat itself right before your eyes if Christianity ends up the major religion in China as they would also rewrite Chinese history to make their culture and tradition look bad, Christianity would be given credit for the development and wealth of China and their culture would disappear gradually with each new generation that comes up till nobody would remember those cultures ever existed except historians.

Now I'm not going to pretend ATR is all good as it also has it's shortcomings but its definitely NOT responsible for Africa's underdevelopment as Africa would've developed at its own pace, we had a system of education before they came, we had our forms of technology and built houses (some of which are still standing today) amongst other things, we were developing slowly but surely and I'll argue the whites coming to colonise us was actually responsible for the shit we're in today as we stopped developing at our pace cuz our technology looked primitive compared to Oyinbo Radio and we gave up developing but simply consumed whatever the oyinbos developed and this made them take advantage of us in a huge way which is responsible for underdevelopment. Read about "Colonial Tax" and see why certain African countries are destined to remain poor forever

It is not a matter of anyone writing anything. Even today the demands for African traditional religion is seen. And its negative consequences for those who dont meet up. So its not a matter of who wrote what but a matter of if what is written is true or not.

You had your African school? Where and teaching what subjects? What certificates were being given? How was formal education possible without even a developed written language because it was even whites that helped you develop even your own language into writing? The most you heard was transfer of arts and farming skills from parents to their children or guardian and petty commerce. Abi its moonlights tales of stories about animals talking or discussions with the dead you want to brag about. Good luck with developing engines or inventing even a tooth pick with that better still.....Stop deluded yourself.

Durchmann:
I can vouch that 90% of folks commenting on this thread never read the article. They just made posts in relation to their own understanding of the topic.

Pastor Poju never broached issues on Christianity and African Religion or Tradition/Culture but just used the bible to illustrate what happens in our society today with respect to the relationship between the youths and the elderly.

Unfortunately, a huge percentage of Nigerian youths do not read.

princfred:
Go back to your dark ages alone and wait donkey years for your own renaissance, black man. Now just crawl back to the cave and bushes/mud houses half naked and re-invent the wheel while you are at it as the entire world embraces and learn from each other since your vain ego cant allow you join civilization.

A single war in the bible has claimed a hundred times number of life than the whole humans used for rituals in the whole of Africa. To add pepper on injury, the number of people killed by Yahweh worshippers for worshipping on sabbath day or the " daughters of Jephthah" killed in the middle east for ritual purpose eeh... our culture is a learner in short.

VULCAN:
Truth be told. Most Nigerian youth are functional illiterates.

I just read a brilliant opinion from a thought leader in this country and youths who never read or digested the piece but stopped at the headline are making a mess of their parents school fees by going off on a tangent that has NO relevance to the subject matter at hand.

It really does seem Nigeria is doomed.

You're the one who should evaluate yourself. At this age of enlightenment, you're still worshipping a prisoner in the name of Yahweh? This speaks volume.

princfred:
Your culture is so angelic it was condoning the killing of twins, human sacrifices, burial of certain people with head of others, going to evil forest for God knows what Etc . Such a nice culture. Maybe they for don sacrifice your empty skull by now.

Chai, the killing of Jephthah's daughter, Uzzar, Onan and many innocent children in Sodom etc. they all happened in Africa baa?

OtemAtum:
A single war in the bible has claimed a hundred times number of life than the whole humans used for rituals in the whole of Africa. To add pepper on injury, the number of people killed by Yahweh worshippers for worshipping on sabbath day or the " daughters of Jephthah" killed in the middle east for ritual purpose eeh... our culture is a learner in short.

Now i guess war was invented by Europeans and there were no wars in Africa. Or African wars didnt kill people. Who is talking about wars? I guess it was sanctimonous Africans who stopped Catholics from religious killings in this age and not the other way around. And Christian are the ones clamoring to go back to barbaric cultures of yesteryears.

princfred:
Now i guess war was invented by Europeans and there were no wars in Africa. Or African wars didnt kill people. Who is talking about wars? I guess it was sanctimonous Africans who stopped Catholics from religious killing in this age and not the other way around. And christian are the ones clamoring to back to barbaric cultures of yesteryears.

Wait, who told you that ritual killing was a general culture in Africa? Amd who told you that the catholics never killed people for rituals in their past history? Check how Yahweh their god even used his supposed only begotten son for ritual purpose Does that not speak volume? Read about Olorun, Abassi, Chukwu etc and tell me if anyone of them used their sons or creatures for ritual like Yahweh their own god. That's wisdom.

princfred:
It's quite unfortunate that your little African brain dont know the difference between war deaths and that just to appease blood thirsty gods. Thesame churches that killed stopped and corrected themselves unlike African culture where even till this day on their own they will keep burying a king with seven heads if not stopped. Or were you the who who fought to end slavery? Thats the difference. African culture is retrogressively static on its own unless improved by outsiders and even that will be met with some folks like you who prefer to keep behaving and thinking like your great great grand fathers even in a 100 hundred years to come. Strip yourself off all external positive influence and go back to hunting and visiting the nearest evil forest for your clan.

And a thorough brainwash makes you believe Europeans didn't do human sacrifice in the past. If you had any broad proper education you would have known better. Sacrificial bodies preserved in salty marsh water/bog are still being found across Europe. And I am 100 % sure that by heart you do not know the name of any European gods. Your type will have a child that you will not name her Esubiyi but will ignorantly call her Diana (a Graeco-Roman hunting goddess).

After your thorough brainwash you somehow believe that perhaps a few thousand people killed for rituals over millennia in Africa is worse than same in Europe. Or that around one billion persons that have perished in European, Middle Eastern and Asian wars are glorious stuff and totally great compared to the fewer ones in Africa.

Now the Europeans who brought you Christianity now have the lowest population of practicing Christians since over 1000 years. If the Europeans were that great at everything why engage in those wars that killed on industrial scale including Hitler gassing 6 million Jews?

You can hate yourself and your culture all you like. YOU will later realise that you cannot run away from your shadows. Europe has more openly practising pagans now since the 10th century AD. With pagan festivals celebrating winter and summer solstice at Stonehenge and other pagan landmarks across Europe.

They now realise that what brought them freedom and progress is science and enlightenment. The exact things Christianity fought against for hundreds of years. They were not even allowed to translate the Bible into common languages like German, English, French, etc. The church even killed people for trying to. Martin Luther narrowly escaped with his life. For you of course such killings are great since it was not done by Africans.

You have little historical knowledge so you just write devoid of any Christian decorum or intellectual strength. Like a typical ignorant zealot. Probably a budding god of men.

AreaFada2:


And a thorough brainwash makes you believe Europeans didn't do human sacrifice in the past. If you had any broad proper education you would have known better. Sacrificial bodies preserved in salty marsh water/bog are still being found across Europe. And I am 100 % sure that by heart you do not know the name of any European gods. Your type will have a child that you will not name her Esubiyi but will ignorantly call her Diana (a Graeco-Roman hunting goddess).

After your thorough brainwash you somehow believe that perhaps a few thousand people killed for rituals over millennia in Africa is worse than same in Europe. Or that around one billion persons that have perished in European, Middle Eastern and Asian wars are glorious stuff and totally great compared to the fewer ones in Africa.

Now the Europeans who brought you Christianity now have the lowest population of practicing Christians since over 1000 years. If the Europeans were that great at everything why engage in those wars that killed on industrial scale including Hitler gassing 6 million Jews?

You can hate yourself and your culture all you like. YOU will later realise that you cannot run away from your shadows. Europe has more openly practising pagans now since the 10th century AD. With pagan festivals celebrating winter and summer solstice at Stonehenge and other pagan landmarks across Europe.

They now realise that what brought them freedom and progress is science and enlightenment. The exact things Christianity fought against for hundreds of years. They were not even allowed to translate the Bible into common languages like German, English, French, etc. The church even killed people for trying to. Martin Luther narrowly escaped with his life. For you of course such killings are great since it was not done by Africans.

You have little historical knowledge so you just write devoid of any Christian decorum or intellectual strength. Like a typical ignorant zealot. Probably a budding god of men.

Its interesting how all your points against Europeans are in the past and they moved away from them a long time ago and they left them while that of Africa is still ongoing and they even had to be the ones to get you to leave your own barbaric ways that shows you how retrogressive your so called culture is and how it couldn't even be improved by your fellow African barbarians. Mr Africa, when are you visiting to nearest evil forest and dedicating your empty skull for burial of the latest dead king as you dont want to learn from whites? With your historic knowledge what have you invented to improve peoples life with your African culture as you bash those who allowed Christianity to help the society with values that brought them rapid development.

Atleast Europeans had the courage to fight, die and win against those of them that became barbaric while in your convoluted African mind you cant even acknowledge talk more of speaking against African bloody culture but advocate it instead. If they didnt fight to end slavery could the coward low IQ of Africans and their retrogressive culture have stopped it when Africans were even selling their own brothers into slavery? They fought to defeat Hitler who wanted to convert Africa into world plantation etc by now Africa and their gods would be perpetual slaves ungrateful ingrates like you.

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princfred:
Go back to your dark ages alone and wait donkey years for your own renaissance, black man. Now just crawl back to the cave and bushes/mud houses half naked and re-invent the wheel while you are at it as the entire world embraces and learn from each other since your vain ego cant allow you join civilization.

lol, which pat of the remote world do you hail from? as for me, my tribe were not naked, we have Aso ofi that was made out of quality wool fabric, we have quality Ewu etu that was made out of animal skin, and lot of eyes friendly beed as ornament to beautify our dresses long before the arrival of the west. This is the cloth obafemi Awolowo wore to negotiate for independence from your master in London years back. as for the house, we live quite very fine than some of your master, aborigines of Australia were once bush dweller, but we have grown to separate bush from house, we know bush belong to animal and house belong to human. we craft our technology in hoe and cutlass, arrow and other metal works, we stumble upon our own chemistry through the use of herbs and plant , that is still used today to cure many diseases and so. this progress was put to stop when your master came, they say we must stop not just by mouth but by the use of gun powder ( the technology that originally originate from china as a result of chemical mistake), the worst part of it , they brainwashed you and your type of people. you now called your heritage barbaric while celebrating mediocrity. it is well .

vaxx:
[size=8pt]lol, which pat of the remote world do you hail from? as for me, my ttie wee not naked, we have Aso ofi that was made out quality wool fabric, we have quality Ewu etu that was made out of animal skin, and lot of eyes friendly beard as ornament to beautify our dresses long before the arrival of the west. This is the cloth obafemi Awolowo wore to negotiate for independence from your master in London years back. as for the house, we live quite very fine than some of your master, aborigines of Australia were once bush dweller, but we have grown to separate bush from house, we know bush belong to animal and house belong to human. we craft our technology in hoe and cutlass, arrow and other metal works, we stumble upon our own chemistry through the use of herbs and plant , that is still used today to cure many diseases and so. this progress was put to stop when your master come, they say we must stop not just by mouth but by the use of gun powder ( the technology that originally originate from china as a result of mistake), the worst part of it , they brainwashed you and your type of people. you now called your heritage barbaric while celebrating mediocrity. it is well .

Its shameful that till this day they have to stop you from carrying out ritual sacrifice and the rest based on your retrogressive culture. I guess the Europeans Awolowo were negotiating with were naked. Did they use gun to stop you from wearing animal skin? Why not continue . I guess your arrows were so superior they could have helped you fight against slavery and Hitler. What ever development Africans had then was so elementary, rudimentary and lagging that they were useless and had to be replaced by better things from the west. Whites done already develop farming machines, guns and rockets you dey here they boast of hoes and arrows that Africans had then. If Africans were so developed why they no use their weapons and inventions defeat whites?

From the onset and even now whats the culture of the average African if not, by any means even hook or crook, to buy car pass his neighbor or drag land when whites never bring car, build house pass his neighbor, work5 to 5 , marry and born any how? Innovative sense very low. Is that how they would have developed ?

BlackAdam55:
yeah but our culture wasn't better either.. Shalom

Says who?...The whiteman

The fact that the standard for measurement came from white people does not necessarily mean its correct

princfred:
Its shameful till this day they gave to stop you from carrying out ritual sacrifice and the rest. I guess the Europeans Awolowo were negotiating with were naked. Did they use gun to stop you from wearing animal skin? Why not continue . I guess your arrows were do superior they could have helped you fight against slavery and hitler. What ever development Africans had then was so lagging that they were useless and had to be replaced by better things from the west. Whites done already develop farming machines, guns and rockets you dey here they boast of hoes and arrows that Africans had then. If Africans were so developed why they no use their weapons and inventions defeat whites.

DAMM, you are so brainwashed not to know that animal skin is still wear today. we have it if inform of bet, shoe and bags even in form of jacket. you must be so primitive in your thinking. this dude do not even know white settle in Africa as far back as 14 century, AFRICA already had guns before then, the mali empire deals with kushite in Egypt. they do business in form of trade by barter, they were exchanged of guns and military tanning, the mali king then was the richest in the entire world. your master saw this juicy opportunity and put our progress on hold. and as for the technology, Europe stole the idea during the crusader war from the Arabs, when they fought the Muslim. your European master were fighting with cutlass and sword and the Muslims were using fire power(the idea they took from china in the usual business trip)). you need to learn history boy. the deficiency is show in a very big part of you.

vaxx:
DAMM, you are so brainwashed not to know that animal skin is still wear today. we have it if inform of bet, shoe and bags even in form of jacket. you must be so primitive in your thinking. this dude do not even know white settle in Africa as far back as 14 century, AFRICA already had guns before then, the mali empire deals with kushite in Egypt. they do business in form of trade by barter, they were exchanged of guns and military tanning, the mali king then was the richest in the entire world. your master saw this juicy opportunity and put our progress on hold. and as for the technology, Europe stole the idea during the crusader war from the Arabs, when they fought the Muslim. your European master were fighting with cutlass and sword and the Muslims were using fire power(the idea they took from china in the usual business trip)). you need to learn history boy. the deficiency is show in a very big part of you.

In your little mind people fighting with cutlass defeated those with fire power. How stupid can you get? Mind you, you were not talking about animal skin in form of belts as what Awolowo was wearing. Now did whites use guns to force you to were long-sleeved shirt why not keep tying wrapper and animal skin as full regalia like Awolowo since sticking to the past is the greatest thing your African brain got from history.

hopefulLandlord:


Whatever way Christianity is helping to foster unity can still be done without it but I see sense in what you're saying

Christianity do not foster unity. Christians are the most divided set of people. According to records, there are over 300,000 registerd pentecostal denominations in Nigeria alone and several millions worldwide. This figure does not even take into account the hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of unregisteted churches worldwide. These diferent denominations have different doctrines but they all preach Jesus. Christianity was enforced on Africans to divide Africans

princfred:
Its interesting how all your points against Europeans are in the past and they moved away from them a long time ago and they left them while that of Africa is still ongoing and they even had to be the ones to get you to leave your own barbaric ways that shows you how retrogressive your so called culture is and how it couldn't even be improved by your fellow African barbarians. Mr Africa, when are you visiting to nearest evil forest and dedicating your empty skul to bury that king as you dont want to learn from whites? With your historic knowledge what have you invented to improve peoples life with your African culture as you bash those who allowed Christianity to help the society with values that brought them rapid development.

Atleast Europeans had the courage to fight, die and win against those of them that became barbaric while in your convoluted African mind you cant even speak against African bloody culture but advocate it instead. If they didnt fight to end slavery could the coward low IQ of Africans and their retrogressive culture have stopped it when Africans were even selling their own brothers into slavery? They fought to defeat Hitler who wanted to convert Africa into world plantation etc by now Africa and their gods would be perpetual slaves ungrateful ingrates like you.

Your problem is that you hate yourself by hating your culture. Every culture had evil in it. Be it killing innocent native Australians/ & Africans to take their land or whatever.

I do not know which tribe you come from but in my place we have no culture of evil forest. In fact we had Christianity already in the 1480s in Benin. An Oba of Benin was already a Christian 500 years ago. He was educated at the Portuguese Royal Military Academy in Lisbon. The Oba is the head of a traditional church like Queen Elizabeth is head of Anglican church. Today with one of West Africa's oldest Cathedrals till now. We're openly proud of our culture because nothing to hide. Maybe your people have a barbaric culture. Benin Empire banned slavery before 1650 when slave trade properly took off. Read my posts from years back here on NL. I have explained it here many times before. Benin people were by royal decree not allowed so buy or sell a slave. Benin people forbidden to be sold. A detailed record of slave origin places kept by European slave traders was posted here a few years back. Benin was not in it. Before that many argued with me here that Benin sold slaves. That record kept them shut finally. But records abound, such as by the French man called Landolphe who detailed how Benin do not sell slave.

Your generalisation and rants keep betraying your general assumption of what you think Africa was like in the past.

I actually visit Museums across Europe: Berlin, Paris, London, Amsterdam and others to see how people lived in Europe in the past. What they describe as their culture which has shape their lives today. I never miss any chance to go. Maybe seeing their past let you put past and present African & European lives into perspective.

As for condemning barbarity, what has that got to do with anything? Do Europeans lament the barbaric killings of foreigners, hate crimes that happen in Europe? Do they condemn their entire culture for the crimes of the few? NO.

If Benin could ban slave trade hundreds of years before the British did in 1807, why can't the current Nigerian nation modelled on your gods the Europeans find a solution? Is it that Western models do not have solutions to everything as you make it sound?

What is the difference between ritual killing as happens sometimes in some parts of Africa and knife killings in UK or incessant gun crimes in America? None as they are all crimes that cost human lives. The motive is irrelevant. The consequences are same: loss of lives & much pain caused to the bereaved.

Your poor knowledge of world history has only caused you self-loathing. A very bad state of being. You therefore generalise as though is just one homogeneous entity with exact same history, culture and experiences historically. Far from it. You can see how Nigeria is struggling to gel. Because of historical and current cultures lumped together by your rampaging gods from Europe.

princfred:
Its interesting how all your points against Europeans are in the past and they moved away from them a long time ago and they left them while that of Africa is still ongoing and they even had to be the ones to get you to leave your own barbaric ways that shows you how retrogressive your so called culture is and how it couldn't even be improved by your fellow African barbarians. Mr Africa, when are you visiting to nearest evil forest and dedicating your empty skul to bury that king as you dont want to learn from whites? With your historic knowledge what have you invented to improve peoples life with your African culture as you bash those who allowed Christianity to help the society with values that brought them rapid development.

Atleast Europeans had the courage to fight, die and win against those of them that became barbaric while in your convoluted African mind you cant even speak against African bloody culture but advocate it instead. If they didnt fight to end slavery could the coward low IQ of Africans and their retrogressive culture have stopped it when Africans were even selling their own brothers into slavery? They fought to defeat Hitler who wanted to convert Africa into world plantation etc by now Africa and their gods would be perpetual slaves ungrateful ingrates like you.

Your problem is that you hate yourself by hating your culture. Every culture had and has evil in it. Be it killing innocent native Australians/Americans & Africans to take their land or whatever.

I do not know which tribe you come from but in my place we have no culture of evil forest. In fact we had Christianity already in the 1480s in Benin. An Oba of Benin was already a Christian 500 years ago. He was educated at the Portuguese Royal Military Academy in Lisbon. The Oba is the head of a traditional church like Queen Elizabeth is head of Anglican church. Today with one of West Africa's oldest Cathedrals till now. We're openly proud of our culture because nothing to hide.

Maybe your people have a barbaric culture. Benin Empire banned slavery before 1650 when slave trade properly took off. Read my posts from years back here on NL. I have explained it here many times before. Benin people were by royal decree not allowed to buy or sell a slave. Benin people were forbidden to be sold too. A detailed record of slave origin places kept by European slave traders was posted here a few years back. Benin was not in it. Before that many argued with me here that Benin sold slaves. That record kept them shut finally. But records abound, such as by the French man called Landolphe who detailed how Benin do not sell slave.

Your generalisation and rants keep betraying your general assumption of what you think all of Africa was like in the past.

I actually visit Museums across Europe: Berlin, Paris, London, Amsterdam and others to see how people lived in Europe in the past. What they describe as their culture which has shaped their lives today. I never miss any chance to go. Maybe seeing their past let you put past and present African & European lives into perspective.

As for condemning barbarity, what has that got to do with anything? Do Europeans lament the barbaric killings of foreigners, hate crimes that happen in Europe? Do they condemn their entire culture for the crimes of the few? NO.
Quite astonishing that Western wars that wiped out over a billion people do not amount to barbarity. Very sickening.

If Benin could ban slave trade hundreds of years before the British did in 1807, why can't the current Nigerian nation modelled on your gods the Europeans find a solution? Is it that Western models do not have solutions to everything as you make it sound?

What is the difference between ritual killing as happens sometimes in some parts of Africa and knife killings in UK or incessant gun crimes in America? None as they are all crimes that cost human lives. The motive is irrelevant. The consequences are same: loss of lives & much pain caused to the bereaved.

Your poor knowledge of world history has only caused you self-loathing. A very bad state of being. You therefore generalise as though is just one homogeneous entity with exact same history, culture and experiences historically. Far from it. You can see how Nigeria is struggling to gel. Because of historical and current cultures lumped together by your rampaging gods from Europe.

Talking of IQ, I was educated among Westerners and I know how we all measured up. No need to elaborate in order not to appear to brag.

AreaFada2:


Your problem is that you hate yourself by hating your culture. Every culture had evil in it. Be it killing innocent native Australians/ & Africans to take their land or whatever.

I do not know which tribe you come from but in my place we have no culture of evil forest. In fact we had Christianity already in the 1480s in Benin. An Oba of Benin was already a Christian 500 years ago. He was educated at the Portuguese Royal Military Academy in Lisbon. The Oba is the head of a traditional church like Queen Elizabeth is head of Anglican church. Today with one of West Africa's oldest Cathedrals till now. We're openly proud of our culture because nothing to hide. Maybe your people have a barbaric culture. Benin Empire banned slavery before 1650 when slave trade properly took off. Read my posts from years back here on NL. I have explained it here many times before. Benin people were by royal decree not allowed so buy or sell a slave. Benin people forbidden to be sold. A detailed record of slave origin places kept by European slave traders was posted here a few years back. Benin was not in it. Before that many argued with me here that Benin sold slaves. That record kept them shut finally. But records abound, such as by the French man called Landolphe who detailed how Benin do not sell slave.

Your generalisation and rants keep betraying your general assumption of what you think Africa was like in the past.

I actually visit Museums across Europe: Berlin, Paris, London, Amsterdam and others to see how people lived in Europe in the past. What they describe as their culture which has shape their lives today. I never miss any chance to go. Maybe seeing their past let you put past and present African & European lives into perspective.

As for condemning barbarity, what has that got to do with anything? Do Europeans lament the barbaric killings of foreigners, hate crimes that happen in Europe? Do they condemn their entire culture for the crimes of the few? NO.

If Benin could ban slave trade hundreds of years before the British did in 1807, why can't the current Nigerian nation modelled on your gods the Europeans find a solution? Is it that Western models do not have solutions to everything as you make it sound?

What is the difference between ritual killing as happens sometimes in some parts of Africa and knife killings in UK or incessant gun crimes in America? None as they are all crimes that cost human lives. The motive is irrelevant. The consequences are same: loss of lives & much pain caused to the bereaved.

Your poor knowledge of world history has only caused you self-loathing. A very bad state of being. You therefore generalise as though is just one homogeneous entity with exact same history, culture and experiences historically. Far from it. You can see how Nigeria is struggling to gel. Because of historical and current cultures lumped together by your rampaging gods from Europe.

Your problem is that you are beclouded by bias to appreciate reality. The difference is that Americans condemn there's but you are here trying to downplay or even deny barbaric killings. With all your knowledge of history you cant appreciate how whites helped improve African culture to be more civilized and that African development was very stunted and retrogressive when Europeans came. Even the Beni chief had to be schooled in Europe him for remain for Africa learn hunting. Ungrateful ingrates.
IQ is not about accumulating certificates as thats the main thing Africans are good at while their western counterpart who is a dropout is inventing things.

superhumanist:


Is "superhumanist" my real name?

Why are you acting ignorant just to prove a point?

I'm not acting ignorant, name is name. Whether it is username or real name or nickname, they are what people use to identity you in whatever location

paxonel:
I'm not acting ignorant, name is name. Whether it is username or real name or nickname, they are what people use to identity you in whatever location

No mind them. Hypocrites . They for dey answer lion, lizard or goat killer as African lovers.

princfred:
Your problem is that you are beclouded by bias to appreciate reality. The difference is that Americans condemn there's but you are here trying yo downplay or even deny barbaric killings.

Ok I should do like Buhari who said Nigerian youths are lazy. Generalise that we're Africans are all barbarians.

How many friends & family have you that kill for ritual? Or will not condemn it? I have no ritual killers as friends or family. They would roundly condemn such in this day and age.

Is there any normal human being who condones killing?

But you appear to say that killings even in millions by Europeans are in order. That whatever their motive, those killings must be justified, including wars to take other people's native land from them. But a few done by Africans is more barbaric.

So who is a hypocrite here?

AreaFada2:


Ok I should do like Buhari who said Nigerian youths are lazy. Generalise that we're Africans are all barbarians.

How many friends & family have you that kill for ritual? Or will not condemn it? I have no ritual killers as friends or family. They would roundly condemn such in this day and age.

Is there any normal human being who condones killing?

But you appear to say that killings even in millions by Europeans are in order. That whatever their motive, those killings must be justified, including wars to take other people's native land from them. But a few done by Africans is more barbaric.

So who is a hypocrite here?

You can hardly mention any village in Nigeria that was not involved in ritualistic killings as a function of African culture then before Europeans came and some still engage in them till this day. And yes if everyone has stuck to culture many but now would be killers, killed or killed for based on custom. Europeans frown at the past barbarism in their culture but Africans like you are feigning ignorance or downplaying theres.

Am saying they stopped theirs and went a step ahead to ask you to stop yours. But in your low IQ you are clamoring to go back to your retrogressive culture just like a true African slowpoke who loves sticking to whatever his great grand fathers did in ignorance.

princfred:
In your little mind people fighting with cutlass defeated those with fire power. How stupid can you get? Mind you, you were not talking about animal skin in form of belts as what Awolowo was wearing. Now did whites use guns to force you to were long-sleeved shirt why not keep tying wrapper and animal skin as full regalia like Awolowo since sticking to the past is the greatest thing your African brain got from history.

will you not stop with your illiteracy, man ,people are reading your comment, the dude did not even know Muslim won the crusader war, you are seriously brainwash. should animal skin be limited to cloth only?the white brainwashed you to value their way of dressing better than you. it is even more powerful than gun. ''brainwashing''. you are suffering from it. am still wasting my time debating someone who has no to zero knowledge of what he is saying. bye

vaxx:
will you not stop with your illiteracy, man ,people are reading your comment, the dude did not even know Muslim won the crusader war, you are seriously brainwash. should animal skin be limited to cloth only?the white brainwashed you to value their way of dressing better than you. it is even more powerful than gun. ''brainwashing''. you are suffering from it. am still wasting my time debating someone who has no to zero knowledge of what he is saying. bye

You are a goat for thinking that wearing animal skin this day will make you civilized.

princfred:
You can hardly mention any village in Nigeria that was nor involved in ritualistic killings as a function of African culture then before Europeans came and some still engage in them till this day. And yes if everyone has stuck to culture many but now would be killers, killed or killed for based on custom. Europeans frown at the past barbarism in their culture but Africans like you are feigning ignorance or downplaying theres.

Am saying they stopped theirs and went a step ahead to ask you to stop yours. But in your low IQ you are clamoring to go back to your retrogressive culture just like a true African slowpoke who loves sticking to whatever his great grand fathers did in ignorance.

My village has no ritual killing. I am so confident that I take my Western born & bred kids to my village with every opportunity. Nothing barbaric to see or hide. Please do not use your village to generalise. I have seen all our festivals. I do not miss any if in town. The position of my family at the top of traditional society means nothing can be hidden from me.

Europeans do NOT condemn old barbarity. Sacrificial human bodies found in bogs are kept like treasures in Museums. I know because I have seen them.

paxonel:
I'm not acting ignorant, name is name. Whether it is username or real name or nickname, they are what people use to identity you in whatever location

Lol.......keep acting ignorant

princfred:
You are a goat for thinking that wearing animal skin this day will make you civilized.

i have educate you enough bro, but it is not in my power to sensitize you from your acute ignorance, it will take the essence of quality expert to do so, bye for now eru oyinbo.

AreaFada2:


My village has no ritual killing. I am so confident that I take my Western born & bred kids to my village with every opportunity. Nothing barbaric to see or hide. Please do not use your village to generalise. I have seen all our festivals. I do not miss any if in town. The position of my family at the top of traditional society means nothing can be hidden from me.

Europeans do NOT condemn old barbarity. Sacrificial human bodies found in bogs are kept like treasures in Museums. I know because I have seen them.

Don't mind that guy. He is one of the lazy youths that refuse to be educated.

This is how they ignorantly believe that twin killings were popular around Nigeria.

AreaFada2:


My village has no ritual killing. I am so confident that I take my Western born & bred kids to my village with every opportunity. Nothing barbaric to see or hide. Please do not use your village to generalise. I have seen all our festivals. I do not miss any if in town. The position of my family at the top of traditional society means nothing can be hidden from me.

Europeans do NOT condemn old barbarity. Sacrificial human bodies found in bogs are kept like treasures in Museums. I know because I have seen them.

Which Village Bini, what the hell are you smoking? Even till today the fetish rituals and diabolism in Beni is still legendary.

Because they keep those bodies does not mean they are clamoring to go back to the culture that led to such sacrifices like you who is denying yours, downplaying them, wishing your own barbaric culture never stopped, blaming whites for stopping them, clamoring for it to return and so cant improve.

vaxx:
i have educate you enough bro, but it is not in my power to sensitize you from your acute ignorance, it will take the essence of quality expert to do so, bye for now eru oyinbo.

Go back to your cultural inventions and rituals and stay away from inventions by whites. Mr Africa.

princfred:
Which Village Bini, what the hell are you smoking? Even till today the fetish rituals and diabolism in Beni is legendary.

Problem is people have been so ingrained to believe things. Usually without any proof. Prejudices and bigotry are part of mankind.

When I was a kid, we were told that if by mistake we should ever cross the Niger Bridge into the East that we would end up in a pot of soup! That Igbo will do just about anything to get money. They might even sell your house if they are your tenants and run away.

Fast forward many years later, we have married many Igbo women. Paid Bride Price all over Igbo land. But we never got eaten by Igbo people. Those prejudices might have remained had relatives not met those lovely ladies.

The Igbo women who came to marry into our family all narrated stories of witches flying during day time in Benin, stories they grew up hearing. Decades on, the kids they gave us are all doing well and marriages are all very strong.

Dude there are enough prejudices to go round. It is left to each individual to wallow in it or deliver themselves.

So fetish is equal to human killing?

Ask yourself where Okija forest where corpses are found is? Where is the Osun forest littered with ritual shrines and bodies? Ogun with headless bodies and skulls galore where is it located? In Benin? No.
If Benin had that, Benin has a fairly small land mass, with much of the land used for plantain and other farming, cocoa, rubber and palm oil plantation, some crude oil, logging timber, etc. With so much activities across our forests, why has nobody seen the ritual corpses in the forests?

You see prejudice can blind people so much that they cannot see Olumo rock right in front of them.