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Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 11:25pm On Apr 22, 2018 |
salvation101: Superior to another? God has only one name, but many titles. Do you even get the point? There is no inferior or superiority. He has only one name Jehovah. You can argue on proper vocalization, which doesn't matter, but He has only one name. If the way it sounds in your dialect is different, that isn't a problem. u already mentioned d name nd u r asking again? All through the gospels, the followers of Jesus were called disciples of Jesus. Discipleship is a core tradition in Jewish scholarly environment. John the Baptist had disciples, dey were simply called John's disciples.. Even paul d Apostle was called a disciple of Gamaliel. So the fact that the name came quite later doesn't mean you can't refer to Jesus disciples, like Stephen as a Christian. Right? 1 Like |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 11:45pm On Apr 22, 2018 |
salvation101: Positing that YHWH didn't appear in the NT is accusing Jesus and his disciples of spurious insertion. 1 Like |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 3:00am On Apr 23, 2018 |
Hairyrapunzel:Well the question makes it obvious that the one asking don't know what he/she needed, Jesus told Nicodemus "you must be born again" and fully explained what it means if you don't know how to read the signs given in the Bible and you've made yourself unteachable just like the Pharisees, a born again Christian will leave you in the dark just as Jesus left the Pharisees who kept asking Him if He's the Messiah after seeing all the evidence! Mark 11:27-33.We're Jehovah's witnesses as i've always told you we've been taught by our Master Lord and King how to respond when mockers come up with their mockery,a skilled witness of Jehovah will NEVER answer you yes or no if you're asking what you suppose to notice yourself! |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 4:02am On Apr 23, 2018 |
salvation101:Mr/Mrs Born Again, what is evident is that God has a PERSONAL name and HE wants all those practicing pure worship to know and sanctify HIS name(Matthew 6:10,John 17:26) so if you think that name is "Jesus" and we're saying it's "Jehovah" there's no need for dispute. Go and declare what you know teaching people to observe all that Jesus has taught because that's the command from Jesus! Matthew 28:19/20 He is not interested in blind arguments on social media,if you're sure of yourself come out publicly and declare what you believe defending it from the Bible so that everyone may know your group to learn from you what they don't know that's all. Isaiah 54:17 Oponu Olodo! |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 6:17am On Apr 23, 2018 |
JMAN05:dat is exactly what i am positing and Jesus or his disciples didn't insert anything.. During the time of Jesus, the common language was Aramaic (from previous Babylonia colonization) and Greek, from the previous Greek colonization. Its just d way we speak English in Nigeria and not our local dialect.. Little women the entire new testament was written in Greek by d several authors and some few Aramaic words appeared like Jesus crying (Eli Eli Lamasabactani) can you even see on the cross, He called God Eli and and Jehovah. The words translated as Jehovah in ur Bible are "Theos" (Greek word for God) and "Kyrios"(greek word for Lord)... |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 6:22am On Apr 23, 2018 |
JMAN05:who says God has only one name? Just go tru Hebrew scripture and see different names of God.. Starting from El, Elohim, Adonay etc Stephen can be referred to as a Christian, the word is biblical as even Apostle Peter referred to the brethren as Christians. |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 6:27am On Apr 23, 2018 |
Riofidelio:Apparently, your knowledge of the name of God and so called pure worship hasn't been able to change your life.. U r still abusive, vulgar and bile. |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 12:15pm On Apr 23, 2018 |
salvation101:You're born again na, so go out and preach God's word like the born again in the first century, when they received the power of the Holy Spirit they went out and started preaching and teaching people about Jesus. That's what you're expected to do and not just hiding behind social media arguing blindly like Born Against! Because it's now obvious that many have been born just to stand against Jehovah's standards! |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 3:07pm On Apr 23, 2018 |
anything that you call Jehovah apart from his name is a title. Never ever say that he has many names because in Exodus 3:15 Jehovah spoke from heaven saying "This is my name forever, and this is how I am to be remembered from generation to generation Thousands of years later, you are saying that he has many names. Are you calling him a liar? salvation101: |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Hairyrapunzel: 7:53pm On Apr 23, 2018 |
removetheturban:So why did jehovah not keep to his word? So He forgot to put his name in people's tongue for how many generations? How come He forgot to put his name in His most sacred book? Your jehovah is a forgetful god. If pronouncing the name was necessary for salvation Why didn't He stop them from removing the most important name from the Bible ? |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 10:38pm On Apr 23, 2018 |
removetheturban:Do u realize that Elohim appeared 4 times in dat single verse. If u were correct, den why would Moses still refer to God as Elohim 4 times in dis verse? Like i said, there are many names for God. Elohim is just one, Yahweh another, Adonai another, Theos, Oluwa etc |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 6:45am On Apr 24, 2018 |
Your logic just broke the world's longstanding record for ecclesiastical mediocrity. I can't believe that you are attempting to bedraggle the word of God in this manner. What about Psalms 83:18 KJV 1611. Do you believe in it? Did you read the assertive tone and expression of that psalm? salvation101: |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 6:56am On Apr 24, 2018 |
removetheturban:lets forget about ur award. u r probably more knowledgeable about the law than Moses.. If God said he would be be known as Jehovah to Moses, why would Moses still refer to him as Elohim, 4times in the same verse?? Why didn't Jesus or anyone in the new testament mention that name. Are u more holy than Jesus? Do u also believe Gen 17:1 where God said he was El shaddai? U see am not one of those folks u can deceive with isolated scripture. |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 7:32am On Apr 24, 2018 |
Ok cool. You are Nigerian, you are Salvation101, you are Christian, you are Yoruba, you are African, you are a daughter you are a sister, you are a nairalander, you are a she, you are a 'you' and you are etc. When called any of the above, you answer. In 24 hours, your name might only be called 20x while the other calls are titles used to refer to you. You and I have been conversing for months but the truth is that I do not know you. The very first thing you are taught in school is 'presentation'. In Presentation, the next thing after the greeting is a name. It is uniquely important. Jesus was called the Messiah, God's son, Nazarene, the chosen one, the servant, the Word, the Light, the Carpenter's son etc. Nevertheless, if I ask you his name, you will say 'Jesus'. Why? Why not Emmanuel? The Bible said that he would be called Jesus. But let us see what his apostle called him when he inquired about his identity from them. Mark 8:29 Peter told him that he was the Christ. And Jesus went ahead to tell him that Jehovah revealed that to him. What was Jesus asking? Evidently, not his name. He was Jesus but here Peter identified him by his role. Arguing that his titles are his names is like saying that the name of Jesus is Carpenter's son. Will you give a score to that? Translate that to Jehovah. He gave us his name and the most important thing is that he commanded that he would want to be remembered by that name. Here you are implying and construing self-imploding logical reactions that negate the veracity of the word of God. You know that Moses used the name. Have you any prove where in the Bible Jehovah commanded his people not to use his use his name? Why, then, did it disappear from the Bible? Do you recall this famous statement in Mark 7:8 "You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to human traditions"? That is what happened to the name of God. They effaced the name of God from the holy book which is against the command of Jehovah. Today, I ask you, are you following the command of men by stating that Psalms 83:18 KJV 1611 is wrong? Is it not the command of God to make people know the name of Jehovah? Didn't that verse say the name of the most high? If Jesus were here this minute will he not repeat Mark 7:8 to you? Look at two commands of Jehovah. Exodus 3:15 Then God said once more to Moses: “This is what you are to say to the Israelites (AND TO SALVATION101), ‘Jehovah the God of your forefathers, the God of Abraham,+ the God of Isaac,+ and the God of Jacob,+ has sent me to you.’ This is my name forever,+ and this is how I am to be remembered from generation to generation Psalms 83:18 May people(and specifically salvation101) know that you, whose name is Jehovah,+ You alone are the Most High over all the earth.+ salvation101: |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 1:58pm On Apr 24, 2018 |
When humans with intellect hear something that's puzzling they'll come out openly to admit it but only few do admit when it's about religion, why? Because they'll appear stupid when admitting that what they've been practicing as worship has been wrong all along! It takes great humility to admit it that's why God promised the humble ones everlasting life. Psalm 37:11,Zephaniah 2:3,Matthew 5:5 Who are Jehovah's witnesses? Simply quote "Preachers and teachers of a popular book called Bible" though many religious groups also claims to be Christians but none is as zealous and dedicated as JWs in observing all that Jesus who is called Christ has commanded! Matthew 28:19/20 |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 2:31pm On Apr 24, 2018 |
removetheturban:not true. I am salvation101 by name (at least on this forum), u can't call me yoruba or Christian as dey are not my names.. On several occasions wen God met with ppl in d old testament before the nation of Israel was formed, he told dem a name of his and it is on record. ElShaddai was the name he first told Abraham. An individual can have several names |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 2:33pm On Apr 24, 2018 |
Riofidelio:whereas some so called followers of a pure religion resort to insults wen dey cannot answer a simple question |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 4:53pm On Apr 24, 2018 |
I hear you salvation101: |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 1:12am On Apr 25, 2018 |
salvation101: All you ve mentioned are all titles, that can be applied to another god or any object of worship. see Isai 45:20. The name Jehovah [YHWH], is His name that he doesnt share with anyone (Ps 83:18). Baal can be called a god (el), however, Baal is the god's name. 2 Likes |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 1:37am On Apr 25, 2018 |
salvation101: Elshaddai is clearly a title - God Almighty. But exclusive to Him, because no one else can be called Almighty. Exod 6:3 "And I used to appear to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob as God Almighty, but with regard to my name Jehovah I did not make myself known to them" 1 Like |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 2:20am On Apr 25, 2018 |
salvation101: Of course, I wouldn't say the disciples inserted anything, but your position make it seem so. I will explain. Jesus may have spoken Aramaic of course, but he also could have spoken Hebrew, Greek. On the issue of insertion, lets read: Luke 4:18-19 "Jehovah’s spirit is upon me, because he anointed me to declare good news to the poor. He sent me to proclaim liberty to the captives and a recovery of sight to the blind, to send the crushed ones away free, 19 to preach Jehovah’s acceptable year" The portion Jesus read was from Isaiah 61:1, 2. There, you ll find YHWH twice. Some translations omit the name in Luke 4:18-19. Does it mean the name isn't there? Now research the original manuscript, you ll see that the name YHWH appeared twice in that Isaiah 61:1,2. To assist you, check Strong's Number 3068 or look up an interlinear. Do you think that the disciples will omit YHWH in that Luke 4:18, since Jesus was reading directly from a scroll containing that name? If you say "God" or "Lord" should be in that Luke, are you not accusing the disciples of insertion? 2. You can call God Eli, Elohim, Elshaddai, Adonai, etc, they are all titles. You can call someone by his title. However, it doesn't mean he doesn't have a proper name. Jesus calling Him Eli isn't wrong, He is Jesus' God. But it doesn't mean you cant call any other person or thing people worship, "El, elohim, Adonai" etc. Jesus could be called Adonai, he deserve the title, but his proper name is Jesus. If you teach, you could be called a teacher. some call their teachers, Aunty or Uncle. Although they would answer such title, but it isn't their names. All many things addressed to God are titles, but His proper name is Jehovah(YHWH). You can still call God any other proper title you wish based on what he has done for you. 1 Like |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 6:37pm On Apr 25, 2018 |
JMAN05:really? Where in d bible was Adonia or Elshadai used to refer to any other god? |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 6:50pm On Apr 25, 2018 |
JMAN05:there is no book in d new testament dat was written in Hebrew. If it was dat important, don't u think the very disciples who trained under Christ for 3 years would av insisted on it? |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 9:19pm On Apr 27, 2018 |
salvation101:Yes! When the one asking is asking questions that's supposed to be coming from a "slowpoke" yet claiming to be filled with Holy Spirit.imagine asking a confirmed liar whether he's born again! Matthew 23:17 1 Like |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 9:46pm On Apr 27, 2018 |
Hairyrapunzel:There is unforgivable sin according to Jesus Himself. Matthew 12:31 I'm still in doubt if you actually typed all these out of ignorance but if not well know today that the Bible is God's word and whatever is written in it supposed to be respected by mortals most especially is a name referred to as that of the Almighty God. Exodus 6:2/3 So i'll assume you never meant what you're typing because it's obvious you're holding a grudge against Jehovah's witnesses and that's forgivable since we're all imperfect humans who can fumble at any given time but if you're actually typing against what you know is written under the inspiration of God's Holy Spirit hmmmmmmmmm Jesus has something to tell you in Matthew 12:32 |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 10:34pm On Apr 27, 2018 |
salvation101:Adonai means "Lord" while El shadai means God 'Almighty", neither of these two is a name because Psalms 110:1 recorded Adonai in two forms and 1Corinthians 8:5 also said there are many called Gods and Lords. El is the short form of Elohim (God) while Shadai signifies that the God in question is the most high in all the Earth so claims Israelites.To Ancient Romans 'Jupiter" is their Almighty God(El shadai) amidst countless other Roman Gods and in Ancient Greece "Zeus" is their Almighty God(El shadai) amidst countless other Grecian Gods. Ancient Israelites distinguish between their God and that of other nations by HIS name that's why Goliath challenged them since they always call on one single God and cursed David by his own Gods!you'll also notice that David said "i came to you in the name of Jehovah" (YHWH).1Samuel 17:43-45 Other nations have numerous Gods yet still believe that there's the greatest of all these Gods. It's out of spite that these Nations of ancient times resent the name of that single God who always kill them when supporting HIS own people Israelites! Exodus 14:25,Joshua 6:20,2 Kings 19:35, 1 Like |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Hairyrapunzel: 7:27am On Apr 28, 2018 |
Riofidelio: Why did your jehovah forget to keep his name which according to you people is the most important name in his word? Why did your jehovah allow a name that is supposed to be associated with salvation to be removed from his word? Your jehovah is a forgetful and confused person. God's word is supposed to be respected by mortals yet you put jehovah (not even the correct name) over 200 times in a place that it was never seen in the new testament. This is the most disrespectful thing I have ever seen anybody do. |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Hairyrapunzel: 7:33am On Apr 28, 2018 |
Riofidelio: You consider a Name that is not even correct, Name that nobody knows the correct pronunciation and a Name that was derived by people you consider evil, unrighteous, wicked,worldly, pagans who will be slaughtered by your God as the most important name to you? You guys are really in bondage |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 7:42am On Apr 28, 2018 |
Hairyrapunzel:Your comments are well noted, thanks! Psalm 10:4,14:1-4, Isaiah 29:16 |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Hairyrapunzel: 8:13am On Apr 28, 2018 |
Riofidelio:Jehovah is still the incorrect name of God. Come and beat me |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 1:26pm On Apr 28, 2018 |
Hairyrapunzel:You're beaten and knocked out completely because you keep agitating because of a simple religious group that's peacefully and zealously preaching and teaching people about ARMAGEDDON! (coming destruction of the wicked) 1 Like |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Hairyrapunzel: 2:16pm On Apr 28, 2018 |
Riofidelio: So you believe your God will slaughter all non jws (wicked, worldly, pagans, unrighteous evil people) In the upcoming Armageddon in your head? Sit back and watch another 100 years pass you by. Why are you guys fixated on this upcoming genocide your God wants to perform? |
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