Hairyrapunzel:


So you believe your God will slaughter all non jws (wicked, worldly, pagans, unrighteous evil people) In the upcoming Armageddon in your head? Sit back and watch another 100 years pass you by.
Why are you guys fixated on this upcoming genocide your God wants to perform?

That's the most sensible question i've been expecting from you my friend! We're not happy hearing that people will die but because God promised that there will be relief, total peace and security on Earth after the destruction of the "evildoers".Psalms 37:8-11,29 Zephaniah 2:2/3 Only God can pronounce (judge) anyone as wicked or evil so HE has given US a field for training to meet up with HIS requirements,that's what Jesus came to establish as a counselor but Satan has initiated so many counterfeits to deceive people. Anyone not trained in that field can't have everlasting life yet not all those who are in the field will humbly accept the training many will loose hope because they're expecting God to act without consideration trying to set the time for the destruction so many even in the field will perish as well but nobody outside the field can survive the coming destruction! That's what JWs are claiming.Please we're not after the timing but we're ready to wait for God's own time! Micah 7:7 Even if we die while waiting, the young man from Nazareth promised US a resurrection! John 11:25/26

JMAN05:


Superior to another? God has only one name, but many titles. Do you even get the point? There is no inferior or superiority. He has only one name Jehovah. You can argue on proper vocalization, which doesn't matter, but He has only one name. If the way it sounds in your dialect is different, that isn't a problem.



So the fact that the name came quite later doesn't mean you can't refer to Jesus disciples, like Stephen as a Christian. Right?

So that gives you the right to force us to accept a wrong name as the name of God right. Who even told you God has a particular name? Jehovah that the people who coined it are not even sure of. You make us laugh. Do you know Jehovah is actually from the the combination of adonai and YHWH? People you consider pagans worthy of non resurrection from 12th century coined Jehovah and you are here telling us gibberish.
Show evidence that Jehovah was used before the 12th century you and your colleagues can't. Mtcheww

Riofidelio:
That's the most sensible question i've been expecting from you my friend! We're not happy hearing that people will die but because God promised that there will be relief, total peace and security on Earth after the destruction of the "evildoers".Psalms 37:8-11,29 Zephaniah 2:2/3 Only God can pronounce (judge) anyone as wicked or evil so HE has given US a field for training to meet up with HIS requirements,that's what Jesus came to establish as a counselor but Satan has initiated so many counterfeits to deceive people. Anyone not trained in that field can't have everlasting life yet not all those who are in the field will humbly accept the training many will loose hope because they're expecting God to act without consideration trying to set the time for the destruction so many even in the field will perish as well but nobody outside the field can survive the coming destruction! That's what JWs are claiming.Please we're not after the timing but we're ready to wait for God's own time! Micah 7:7 Even if we die while waiting, the young man from Nazareth promised US a resurrection! John 11:25/26

God is judge yet you keep saying people will be slaughtered by your jehovah for not listening to some humans in New York. You need psychiatric help. You are just preoccupied with death and genocide/mass murder / mass slaughter of people who never offended you. Just because they refuse to obey 8 old men in New York.

Hairyrapunzel:


God is judge yet you keep saying people will be slaughtered by your jehovah for not listening to some humans in New York. You need psychiatric help. You are just preoccupied with death and genocide/mass murder / mass slaughter of people who never offended you. Just because they refuse to obey 8 old men in New York.

If you're truthful with yourself why disturb your brain because of what "psychopaths" are saying? Please what's your interest in the "rubbish" we're saying? After all we're easygoing people like Noah who claimed the same thing before his contemporaries and i'm sure all those people considered Noah to be a psychopath for waiting his "precious" time cutting woods and building a massive structure with woods while others were building luxurious mansions with bricks! Please if you don't have anything worthwhile to say why not go and sleep? Jehovah's witnesses aren't coming to kill you by themselves so relax!

Riofidelio:
That's the most sensible question i've been expecting from you my friend! We're not happy hearing that people will die but because God promised that there will be relief, total peace and security on Earth after the destruction of the "evildoers".Psalms 37:8-11,29 Zephaniah 2:2/3 Only God can pronounce (judge) anyone as wicked or evil so HE has given US a field for training to meet up with HIS requirements,that's what Jesus came to establish as a counselor but Satan has initiated so many counterfeits to deceive people. Anyone not trained in that field can't have everlasting life yet not all those who are in the field will humbly accept the training many will loose hope because they're expecting God to act without consideration trying to set the time for the destruction so many even in the field will perish as well but nobody outside the field can survive the coming destruction! That's what JWs are claiming.Please we're not after the timing but we're ready to wait for God's own time! Micah 7:7 Even if we die while waiting, the young man from Nazareth promised US a resurrection! John 11:25/26

God is judge yet you keep saying people will be slaughtered by your jehovah for not listening to some humans in New York. You need psychiatric help. You are just preoccupied with death and genocide/mass murder / mass slaughter/mass destruction /mass killing of people who never offended you. Just because they refuse to obey 8 old men in New York.

So you wake up every morning thinking about destruction? Hmm this is serious. Your religion sucks every atom of humanity in you people. No wonder you guys act like robots.

Hairyrapunzel:


God is judge yet you keep saying people will be slaughtered by your jehovah for not listening to some humans in New York. You need psychiatric help. You are just preoccupied with death and genocide/mass murder / mass slaughter/mass destruction /mass killing of people who never offended you. Just because they refuse to obey 8 old men in New York.

So you wake up every morning thinking about destruction? Hmm this is serious. Your religion sucks every atom of humanity in you people. No wonder you guys act like robots.

You can say so about Noah and Jesus because they both claimed the same thing back then! Their God promised to destroy all those who won't obey the command God passed through them!

Riofidelio:
You can say so about Noah and Jesus because they both claimed the same thing back then! Their God promised to destroy all those who won't obey the command God passed through them!

You ain't Noah and you ain't Jesus Christ either. Stop comparing yourself to them.

Hairyrapunzel:

You ain't Noah and you ain't Jesus Christ either. Stop comparing yourself to them.

They both walked this Earth and proclaim the same message of "genocide" so it's not a new thing if a religious group is saying the same today, unless if you're doubting Bible's record concerning these people!

Riofidelio:
They both walked this Earth and proclaim the same message of "genocide" so it's not a new thing if a religious group is saying the same today, unless if you're doubting Bible's record concerning these people!

See me see wahala. God will now look round and say it's the organization that habours pedophiles and rapists, breaks families and causes death that will be his Noah in this 21st century? It's obvious you are being brainwashed.
You ain't Noah and you ain't Jesus Christ simple. If you don't like it, hug transformers.

Hairyrapunzel:


See me see wahala. God will now look round and say it's the organization that habours pedophiles and rapists, breaks families and causes death that will be his Noah in this 21st century? It's obvious you are being brainwashed.
You ain't Noah and you ain't Jesus Christ simple. If you don't like it, hug transformers.

Jesus prayed to God that we shouldn't be taken out of the world(John 17:15) meaning imperfect humans will still be struggling with imperfection so you'll hear of all sort of fleshly desires because we're still living in the world yet true Christians will remain SEPARATE from the world.John 17:14 It doesn't mean Christians have become PERFECT yet but we're willing to continue washing our robes in the blood of the Lamb.Revelations 7:14 While washing observers like you will continue to notice the stains it's after a thorough wash that clothes becomes "dirt free" but whoever refuse to WASH can't be made clean! So my friend, we're not saying our robes(personalities) has been made perfect for "inspection" yet,we're still washing just has Jehovah promised us(Isaiah 1:18) but the washing process is left for EACH person and the detergent is the blood of the Lamb! Revelations 7:14 I know you're still angry with Jehovah's witnesses but this is the BITTER truth!

Riofidelio:
Jesus prayed to God that we shouldn't be taken out of the world(John 17:15) meaning imperfect humans will still be struggling with imperfection so you'll hear of all sort of fleshly desires because we're still living in the world yet true Christians will remain SEPARATE from the world.John 17:14 It doesn't mean Christians have become PERFECT yet but we're willing to continue washing our robes in the blood of the Lamb.Revelations 7:14 While washing observers like you will continue to notice the stains it's after a thorough wash that clothes becomes "dirt free" but whoever refuse to WASH can't be made clean! So my friend, we're not saying our robes(personalities) has been made perfect for "inspection" yet,we're still washing just has Jehovah promised us(Isaiah 1:18) but the washing process is left for EACH person and the detergent is the blood of the Lamb! Revelations 7:14 I know you're still angry with Jehovah's witnesses but this is the BITTER truth!

Angry ke? Maybe you don't know me. Nothing makes me angry. I think you are the one angry. When it comes to your organization honouring and harbouring criminals (pedophiles and rapists) you claim being imperfect. Whereas, if it's Catholics or Christendom
you say they are used by Satan and are false religions. #HYPOCRISY

Well, I just find it hilarious that they (governing body)
actually beat getting killed by your God in Armageddon if you don't obey and follow their (governing body) teaching.
You just be dishing death threats out to everyone who holds contrary views to your gb's teaching because they (gb) taught you this.
Jesus and Noah didn't need or use any medium or channel or organization to reach God directly.

I head your organization now says the are the way, the truth and the life. In other words, they have taken the place of Jesus Christ. No wonder they believe that if you don't join them you will be murdered by their all loving jehovah.

Hairyrapunzel:


Angry ke? Maybe you don't know me. Nothing makes me angry. I think you are the one angry. When it comes to your organization honouring and harbouring criminals (pedophiles and rapists) you claim being imperfect. Whereas, if it's Catholics or Christendom
you say they are used by Satan and are false religions. #HYPOCRISY

Well, I just find it hilarious that they (governing body)
actually beat getting killed by your God in Armageddon if you don't obey and follow their (governing body) teaching.
You just be dishing death threats out to everyone who holds contrary views to your gb's teaching because they (gb) taught you this.
Jesus and Noah didn't need or use any medium or channel or organization to reach God directly.

I head your organization now says the are the way, the truth and the life. In other words, they have taken the place of Jesus Christ. No wonder they believe that if you don't join them you will be murdered by their all loving jehovah.

Fine so if you're not angry with US that means you'll be tolerant enough to allow any religious group say whatever their "leaders" taught them to say as long as they're harmlessly claiming it's God that's coming to judge(kill) wrongdoers,you and i know that every religion has something to say against those who refuses to join them therefore it's partial to single out only Jehovah's witnesses because of the same mindset all other forms of worship do carry,remember Cain who killed his brother Abel it wasn't because Jehovah gave Abel anything other than accepting Abel's worship and Cain can see it but instead of trying to learn from whom God has blessed Cain got angry to the point of becoming the first murderer in history.I pray that you survive this envious mindset in Jesus name God bless you my friend!

salvation101:
there is no book in d new testament dat was written in Hebrew. If it was dat important, don't u think the very disciples who trained under Christ for 3 years would av insisted on it?

You didn't answer the question, I repeat:

Do you think that the disciples will omit YHWH in that Luke 4:18, since Jesus was reading directly from a scroll containing that name? If you say "God" or "Lord" should be in that Luke, are you not accusing the disciples of insertion?

salvation101:
really? Where in d bible was Adonia or Elshadai used to refer to any other god?

Well, Elshadai was not part of the titles you mentioned in your comment I replied to. Elshadai means God almighty, that title is used for God alone. Didn't you read Exod 6:1-3? To see how it was differentiated from the name Jehovah?

As lord, we known that even Abram was called lord. Are you still bringing that up?

Riofidelio:
Fine so if you're not angry with US that means you'll be tolerant enough to allow any religious group say whatever their "leaders" taught them to say as long as they're harmlessly claiming it's God that's coming to judge(kill) wrongdoers,you and i know that every religion has something to say against those who refuses to join them therefore it's partial to single out only Jehovah's witnesses because of the same mindset all other forms of worship do carry,remember Cain who killed his brother Abel it wasn't because Jehovah gave Abel anything other than accepting Abel's worship and Cain can see it but instead of trying to learn from whom God has blessed Cain got angry to the point of becoming the first murderer in history.I pray that you survive this envious mindset in Jesus name God bless you my friend!

So because Cain killed Abel his brother therefore your jehovah slaughtering people who hold contrary opinion to that of your GB is justified right?
Must you be like other worldy religious groups? I thought you guys were not part of the world? So why copy the worldly peeps?
#HYPOCRISY

JMAN05:


Well, Elshadai was not part of the titles you mentioned in your comment I replied to. Elshadai means God almighty, that title is used for God alone. Didn't you read Exod 6:1-3? To see how it was differentiated from the name Jehovah?

As lord, we known that even Abram was called lord. Are you still bringing that up?

If you like explain from here to Jericho it still doesn't change the fact that the word "jehovah" was gotten by guess work by people you consider worldly/pagan/wicked/evil/unrighteous and it's not God's real name. No where will you find jehovah in the new testament. If you like assume all you want. The fact and real thing is that "jehovah" was never seen and it is still not seen in the Greek manuscripts. You can never change it.
Another fact is that no one knows the real name of God. What we see and hear today is the English pronunciation of an assumed Latin and Hebrew word from the 12th century.

Pure worship has never been in the hands of "perfect" humans, God only select one of thousands of those who are trying to worship HIM and give such a person divine instructions it's left to others to reason with the one God has chosen to use as mouthpiece or face terrible consequences. Genesis 9:21 recorded that Noah got drunk after drinking uncontrollably, this means many of Noah's contemporaries must have noticed some flaws in him before the flood,when God chose Noah as HIS mouthpiece they objected and this led to their condemnation! So during this end time Jesus Christ (God's Son) also said there will be a "faithful and discreet slave" (mouthpiece)that's going to be feeling His domestics (teaching true Christians)Luke 12:42 anyone objecting to this simply doesn't believe in Jesus! Jesus promised this "faithful and discreet slave" class the Holy Spirit and not every Christian,they're the ones the Holy Spirit will assist to gain insight to feed other Christians though there will be mistakes on the part of imperfect humans but nobody must challenge their authority (Numbers 12:1-9)because if He gives all Christians the same measure of insight then why would He say that someone would be feeding His domestics? Of course this faithful and discreet slave would have flaws as imperfect humans but anyone capitalizing on their flaws to kick against God's instructions coming from them is actually fighting against God HIMSELF. It's rather more reasonable to find another "faithful and discreet slave" class of imperfect humans that God is using than to say there shouldn't be at all! Anyone that has ears let him/her listen and think.

Riofidelio:
Pure worship has never been in the hands of "perfect" humans, God only select one of thousands of those who are trying to worship HIM and give such a person divine instructions it's left to others to reason with the one God has chosen to use as mouthpiece or face terrible consequences. Genesis 9:21 recorded that Noah got drunk after drinking uncontrollably, this means many of Noah's contemporaries must have noticed some flaws in him before the flood,when God chose Noah as HIS mouthpiece they objected and this led to their condemnation! So during this end time Jesus Christ (God's Son) also said there will be a "faithful and discreet slave" (mouthpiece)that's going to be feeling His domestics (teaching true Christians)Luke 12:42 anyone objecting to this simply doesn't believe in Jesus! Jesus promised this "faithful and discreet slave" class the Holy Spirit and not every Christian,they're the ones the Holy Spirit will assist to gain insight to feed other Christians though there will be mistakes on the part of imperfect humans but nobody must challenge their authority (Numbers 12:1-9)because if He gives all Christians the same measure of insight then why would He say that someone would be feeding His domestics? Of course this faithful and discreet slave would have flaws as imperfect humans but anyone capitalizing on their flaws to kick against God's instructions coming from them is actually fighting against God HIMSELF. It's rather more reasonable to find another "faithful and discreet slave" class of imperfect humans that God is using than to say there shouldn't be at all! Anyone that has ears let him/her listen and think.

Pure worship now means hiding pedophiles and rapists? If na Catholic priests or Pentecostal general overseers get flaws you will say false prophets in a false religion. Yet your old men in new York have flaws and you say imperfect men in a perfect religion practicing pure worship. #HYPOCRISY

Old men in new York are now equivalent to the holy spirit in your eyes bondage. How will people with flaws tell me that their flawed doctrines are from the holy spirit and force me to believe and follow their doctrines?

I am an independent/a critical thinker. If someone comes to me and orders me not to use my brain but instead, rely on them for bible teaching I will never agree. God made every human equal. Why would humans with flaws (gb) tell me they (gb) are the ones chosen by God and I must follow their (gb) flawed doctrines or else I will be slaughtered by their god?

This screams CULT.

Good Hairyrapunzel! Your personal conclusion is clear and well understood.So others are EQUALLY free to use their God's given brains to discern what to do just as you're free to decide, and i hope you'll be tolerant enough to allow that? God bless you my friend!

Riofidelio:
Good Hairyrapunzel! Your personal conclusion is clear and well understood.So others are EQUALLY free to use their God's given brains to discern what to do just as you're free to decide, and i hope you'll be tolerant enough to allow that? God bless you my friend!

Which one is me being tolerant again? God gave me a brain to think for myself. He didn't give me a brain so others can do the thinking for me. How and when did I become your friend? When you said I will die for not listening to 8 old men in new York who say they ( this 8 old men) are appointed by God to lead his people.

Hairyrapunzel:


Which one is me being tolerant again? God gave me a brain to think for myself. He didn't give me a brain so others can do the thinking for me. How and when did I become your friend? When you said I will die for not listening to 8 old men in new York who say they ( this 8 old men) are appointed by God to lead his people.

You became our friend from the very moment you started passing comments in this forum,we don't expect favourable comment because if that's what we are always getting from outsiders obviously we're not on the right path but since you've been accusing,agitating,criticizing,antagonizing and passing all manner of reproach on our organization(Matthew 10:22,1Peter 4:4/5) you're strengthening our confidence that certainly we're Jesus' true followers so my friend you've really been a source of INDIRECT encouragement to all JWs following this thread! As for our brains well over 8 million of US from all nations are saying "we'll continue to go with them (GB)because we've heard,seen and certain that Jehovah is with them" Zechariah 8:23 Take note, that's why we always call our own God by name because we're people for HIS name and the GB is HIS mouthpiece, of course you can worship your own God that's different from Jehovah (The God with ONE unique name having unique nation of worshippers)Farewell my friend God bless you!

Riofidelio:
Yes! When the one asking is asking questions that's supposed to be coming from a "slowpoke" yet claiming to be filled with Holy Spirit.imagine asking a confirmed liar whether he's born again! Matthew 23:17

ur Jehovah must be ashamed of you. Wat some cultured irreligious individuals would not even say is wat u say freely nd claim to be practicing a pure religion. Wat a disgrace ur religion is

Riofidelio:
Adonai means "Lord" while El shadai means God 'Almighty", neither of these two is a name because Psalms 110:1 recorded Adonai in two forms and 1Corinthians 8:5 also said there are many called Gods and Lords. El is the short form of Elohim (God) while Shadai signifies that the God in question is the most high in all the Earth so claims Israelites.To Ancient Romans 'Jupiter" is their Almighty God(El shadai) amidst countless other Roman Gods and in Ancient Greece "Zeus" is their Almighty God(El shadai) amidst countless other Grecian Gods. Ancient Israelites distinguish between their God and that of other nations by HIS name that's why Goliath challenged them since they always call on one single God and cursed David by his own Gods!you'll also notice that David said "i came to you in the name of Jehovah" (YHWH).1Samuel 17:43-45 Other nations have numerous Gods yet still believe that there's the greatest of all these Gods. It's out of spite that these Nations of ancient times resent the name of that single God who always kill them when supporting HIS own people Israelites! Exodus 14:25,Joshua 6:20,2 Kings 19:35,

i didn't spend a second to go tru wateva u av to say cos to me, anything coming from you is "bullshït".. Lost wateva respect i got for u on here

salvation101:
ur Jehovah must be ashamed of you. Wat some cultured irreligious individuals would not even say is wat u say freely nd claim to be practicing a pure religion. Wat a disgrace ur religion is

He said his organization practices pure worship but they speak and wish ill of everyone not their member

salvation101:
ur Jehovah must be ashamed of you. Wat some cultured irreligious individuals would not even say is wat u say freely nd claim to be practicing a pure religion. Wat a disgrace ur religion is

You've got all the right to talk back even insult but i just can't understand how a spirit filled individual could be asking a CONFIRMED LIAR if he/she is Born Again! Please to me you and your teachers need to go and learn how to ask thought provoking and sensible leading questions because some questions can bring reproach on Christianity. Asking a person you confirmed yourself with the power of the Holy Spirit living in you as a LIAR if the LIAR is Born Again makes you sound like a "Confused Dullard" "Oponu Olodo" to me. Please ask any other unbiased person how you sound with such a question!

salvation101:
i didn't spend a second to go tru wateva u av to say cos to me, anything coming from you is "bullshït".. Lost wateva respect i got for u on here

Of course whatever comes from a person who SKILLFULLY exposed your obstinate stupidity publicly will become "bullshit" before you, it's the common attitude of spiteful individuals. Please keep your respect because i'll not wish to be familiar with confused dullards when there are thousands of humble ones willing to learn how to become fully competent and completely equipped Christians out there! Sorry i've got lots and lots of admirers out there who often exaggerate the little wisdom God gave me while i always humbly give all the credits to Jesus (the eye opener) telling them they can become better than me in skillfully handling the SWORD (God's word) aright. So if the "sword" has cut you badly it's not too late to humble yourself and learn how to handle it during a spiritual warfare,I'm one of Jehovah's witnesses combatant spiritual soldiers of Christ.That's why your so called Pastors do warn you not to come out and face Jehovah's witnesses during biblical discussions because you'll be badly injured "spiritually speaking"!

Hairyrapunzel:

He said his organization practices pure worship but they speak and wish ill of everyone not their member

Go take your drink with your suya, we're not coming to hurt you. We're only warning people against the great day of judgement from God!

Riofidelio:
You've got all the right to talk back even insult but i just can't understand how a spirit filled individual could be asking a CONFIRMED LIAR if he/she is Born Again! Please to me you and your teachers need to go and learn how to ask thought provoking and sensible leading questions because some questions can bring reproach on Christianity. Asking a person you confirmed yourself with the power of the Holy Spirit living in you as a LIAR if the LIAR is Born Again makes you sound like a "Confused Dullard" "Oponu Olodo" to me. Please ask any other unbiased person how you sound with such a question!

i av just followed you. My new mission on dis forum will be to debunk ur fallacies and reveal all the details about ur organization we pretend to be unaware about. U can curse all u want, i think its frustration nd be ready for more of it

Riofidelio:
Of course whatever comes from a person who SKILLFULLY exposed your obstinate stupidity publicly will become "bullshit" before you, it's the common attitude of spiteful individuals. Please keep your respect because i'll not wish to be familiar with confused dullards when there are thousands of humble ones willing to learn how to become fully competent and completely equipped Christians out there! Sorry i've got lots and lots of admirers out there who often exaggerate the little wisdom God gave me while i always humbly give all the credits to Jesus (the eye opener) telling them they can become better than me in skillfully handling the SWORD (God's word) aright. So if the "sword" has cut you badly it's not too late to humble yourself and learn how to handle it during a spiritual warfare,I'm one of Jehovah's witnesses combatant spiritual soldiers of Christ.That's why your so called Pastors do warn you not to come out and face Jehovah's witnesses during biblical discussions because you'll be badly injured "spiritually speaking"!

we will see about dat.. Afterall the founder of ur organization was a renowned con man confirmed as one by a court of competent jurisdiction. Little wonder why u would try to use same con to sell ur false religion

salvation101:
we will see about dat

This boy has borderline or unstable personality disorder.

Riofidelio:
Go take your drink with your suya, we're not coming to hurt you. We're only warning people against the great day of judgement from God!

Warning people by telling them they will die because they refused to accept, obey and follow the teaching of 8 old men in new York aka gb and join a publishing corporation called watchtower organization? You really need help. It's obvious you don't even know the Bible because you don't think for yourself in the first place.

Hairyrapunzel:

Warning people by telling them they will die because they refused to accept, obey and follow the teaching of 8 old men in new York aka gb and join a publishing corporation called watchtower organization? You really need help. It's obvious you don't even know the Bible because you don't think for yourself in the first place.

My dear friend, i and over 8 million JWs zealously preaching and teaching people about God's Kingdom throughout the world don't know the Bible yet you can't just ignore what we're saying and walk away,hmmmmmmmmm certainly somebody needs help as in "real help"!