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Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by OneJ: 11:51pm On May 01, 2018 |
Hairyrapunzel:@hairyrapunzel: U dey NL dey lie say God's name is not Jehovah,even though it's right there in your Bible . Yet,Jesus Christ u claim to follow,he admitted His Father has a name he revealed to his followers ( John17:6, Ps 83:18, Exodus6:3. ) Jesus warned that what occurred in Noah's day ( when Jehovah God destroyed that wicked world ) will be repeated again (matt24:37-39. 2pet2:4-9) , in your previous posts ,u shamelessly claimed it's a delusion from "8 old men in new york"(2pet3:1-7).. In your own words "God gave me a brain to think for myself..." Guy, you dey deceive yourself ( James 1:22). (God's word shapes the lives of humble people who strive to practice His righteous standards. His word thinks for those guided by His holy spirit. Ephesians4:17-24. Colossians 3:9-16. ). Shalom. 1 Like |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 12:01am On May 02, 2018 |
salvation101:Jesus was a carpenter, Peter was a fisherman, Matthew a tax collector, Paul a Pharisee,antagonist and critic but that's just what they were before God's approval,their works are still remembered till today. It's not how far my friend but how well.Charles Taze Russell happens to be one of those who began the research for pure worship,he was the first president of Watchtower,of course there are so many improvements after his death because "he's not the founder but just a co Bible student". So Jehovah blessed their effort back then that's why over 8 million zealous preachers from different countries around the world have become co publishers in Watchtower today,it was even 18 years after his death that we adopted the group name "Jehovah's witnesses". Today God's promise to those serving HIM is fulfilled in our organization. Isaiah 54:17,Malachi 3:16-18,Matthew 10:3-22 out of all the religious groups claiming Christians we're the ONLY group that's up and doing in the work of the Lord! Certainly the real founder of Jehovah's witnesses organization is a Powerful Spirit Being who is responsible for all the advancement and improvement you're seeing today! 1 Like
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Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Hairyrapunzel: 2:10am On May 02, 2018 |
Riofidelio: Why are you so fixated on death, fighting, killing and war? I think you people are not normal people. How will people live in constant fear of being killed by a God they consider all loving? Your beliefs are really disturbing |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 6:29am On May 02, 2018 |
Hairyrapunzel:Go and get a Bible after reading through a Bible please notice the attitude of the God spoken of as the main character of the Bible i'll advise you to go and find the proper definition of the word "Believe" then you can come out publicly to argue about what those who claims to believe in that God and HIS book could have in mind.(Matthew 24:37) Until then your comments from this very moment needs "NO MORE RESPONSE"! |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 7:10am On May 02, 2018 |
salvation101:Haaaaaa that's a wise decision! "Following Jehovah's witnesses to debunk our fallacies and reveal all the details about our organization". May God bless you as you've chosen the right path, please notice the similarities between what happened to Jesus during the first century and Jehovah's witnesses during the early 20th century. Try to listen CAREFULLY to both sides and meditate on what you're reading or hearing,please you have NOTHING to gain been partial or biased.After listening carefully to Jews who were taught to believe till today that Jesus was an adopted son of a poor Carpenter from a wayward mother who got pregnant from sleeping around,went and learn magical acts,became a seductive Impostor and blasphemer,got arrested,tried by the highest reputable court of the Jews,found guilty and executed yet his followers kept deceiving themselves and others that He's been raised from the dead. Then i read about Jesus from the records of His faithful followers like Matthew,Mark,Luke and John,i compared it to what's happening today, i realized that certainly this must be that religious group practicing exactly what Jesus and His disciples practiced back then.I pray that God bless you again and again for taking this wise step! |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 9:34am On May 02, 2018 |
Riofidelio:a good tree cannot produce evil fruits. Evil tree cannot produce good fruits.. Jesus was a carpenter yes, the jews didn't have any accusation against him. The had to hire false witnesses... Unlike the founder of ur heretic society who was a fraudster even after founding ur religion. He was a con man dragged to court for extorting farmers in d name of selling miracle beans. U are a fruit and product of dat con man. U are a Russelite... Lest i forget, how about the several predictions of the world ending dat has failed woefully? Nairaland shall contain us. Wen am done u will be glad to God for helping me open ur eyes to d error u are living in 1 Like |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 9:46am On May 02, 2018 |
Riofidelio:Jews had no accusation against Jesus hence dey hired false witnesses. Pilate didn't find him guilty of any charge. But ur Russell and his personal lawyer (Rutherford) were con men. Sold miracle wheat to innocent farmers and were guilty of the charge |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 9:50am On May 02, 2018 |
salvation101:Your comments i cherish so much for one thing my friend, you quoted the very scripture that will open all eyes! trees and fruits Jesus mentioned to illustrate what will become of all religious groups claiming to be Christians or practicing pure worship. If the fruits is the same with that of the fruit century Christians then the first set sincerely did a good work but if not then no matter how reputable those first set could be before men their seed is evil! Please consider what that man(Russell) and his colleagues started back then as evil if their followers today aren't meeting up with what Jesus and the Apostles demanded! Matthew 103-28,24:14,Act 20:20 |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 9:55am On May 02, 2018 |
Riofidelio:if the foundation is destroyed, wat can d righteous do? If ur founder was an evil trer, how come you are claiming to be good fruits |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 10:00am On May 02, 2018 |
salvation101:My friend you're quoting Jesus' follower's records(Greek scriptures or New Testament)and not what the Jews were taught about the young man from Nazareth! What Pilate did,what happened during the trial and how the case ended was well documented in the 27 books concluding the Bible written by none other than Jesus' own faithful disciples,why not ask a Jew practicing Judaism and hear a totally different story about Jesus? That's why i said if you're sincerely interested in knowing the truth you MUST CAREFULLY listen to both sides (accused and complainant) without been biased then you can SUCCESFULLY draw your own PERSONAL conclusion. |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 10:10am On May 02, 2018 |
salvation101:Go to Israel and sincerely ask a Jew practicing Judaism about Jesus! If the foundation is evil of course there's no way the fruit could be unique and outstanding like what everyone around the globe can testify to today. If Jehovah's witnesses aren't having God's backing there's no way the group could be the ONLY organisation practicing what Jesus commanded today. That's the expected FRUIT! |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 10:32am On May 02, 2018 |
My friend salvation101,if this has been your inquiry since i wouldn't have seen you as some confused dullard. Please i sincerely tender apologies for my wrong perspective of what you're because now truthfully speaking you're asking motivational thought provoking questions that can help any reasonable person to think twice. God bless you! |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 11:56am On May 02, 2018 |
Riofidelio:the Jews rejected Jesus, that is the authority we know of and in case u do not know, some have accepted him, just Google "messianic jews".. Jesus was was rejected simply because dey saw him as a blasphemer and not because he committed crimes such as stealing wch is a very immoral act. Ur leader is no where near the person of Jesus, ur leader was a thief, Judas iscariot kinda petty thief |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 11:58am On May 02, 2018 |
Riofidelio:wat are u practicing that other religions aren't practicing? Including Mormons |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 12:00pm On May 02, 2018 |
Riofidelio:i do not need ur apology please. Why do you think someone who stole and gave alot of false predictions could be a true messenger of God or the religion he founded in his con can be counted as a pure religion? |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 1:20pm On May 02, 2018 |
salvation101:You're gradually becoming one of Jehovah's witnesses,that's exactly how 90% of US became JWs apart from few ones whose parents were JWs. So after listening to one side of the story you also need to hear the other side to be balanced and unbiased before conclusion therefore you need to read or study the history of the organization with a member just as you swallowed everything from critics,Christians were admonished to be sure of whatever we're going to say or type so that all our efforts won't just go down the drain as hypocrisy before God! 1Timothy 5:21God warned Israelites not to follow what the crowd is portraying because certain facts could be hidden so after listening to accusers you must give the accused the opportunity to defend himself! Exodus 23:1-3 God bless you! |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 1:49pm On May 02, 2018 |
salvation101:I will like you to meditate on Paul's journey in life before becoming a Christian. Think about the "reports" that could make this young man so vicious to the extent of persecuting and killing Christians,think also about what he could be thinking that's giving him the impetus to be diligently searching for them just to get them killed. Of course it couldn't be some fine reports until he became a Christian himself, trying to convince others to become Christians as well. Act 26:28 God certainly forgave Paul for all those malicious blunders giving him the grace to become the 13th and last Apostles of Christ but he paid dearly for not verifying before persecuting and killing Jesus' friends! That's why when he prayed fervently to God for his suffering to be minimized God told him "you should be thankful that you're given the grace to participate in pure worship"(after all he did to Christians)2Corintians 12:7-9 So my friend i'll advise you not to fight viciously against any religious group without a CAREFUL research to be certain of whatever you're going to say or do! God bless you. |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 1:57pm On May 02, 2018 |
Riofidelio:Paul evil life only existed before he became a Christian. The founder of ur religion had already founded ur so called religion and was still a con man, he later handed the dude who took over after him was his personal lawyer in all his scams. Jws were initially known as Russelites till Rutherford changed d name to jw. It is a scam organization that has deceived millions since its existence 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 1:58pm On May 02, 2018 |
Riofidelio:me become a jw? U wish. I would rather be a Muslim than join ur organization(wch is impossible) ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 2:05pm On May 02, 2018 |
salvation101:So try to listen to the accused as well at least to give him the opportunity to defend himself! All those reports were written long time ago but you can keep them then ask a member to know what he/she heard or think about all these reports. That's what a true Christian will do, God bless you! |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 2:11pm On May 02, 2018 |
salvation101:You can say that again but think of what Paul will say if he was told "a careful consideration and meditation could turn you to a Christian" of course he will curse whoever say such to him. So let's leave the idea of becoming a JW for the moment and focus on an impartial judgment by "listening carefully to the accusers and the accused" before drawing your personal conclusion! |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 2:29pm On May 02, 2018 |
Riofidelio:ok. For a start, explain why the world hasn't ended as he predicted. |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 2:39pm On May 02, 2018 |
salvation101:That's solid food my friend so you need to welcome a competent JW and study on that. It's not something that you can fully grasp on social media, that's why we do come to your homes to reason with you. So just as you've allowed the person who fed you with all those reports and gave him/her enough time to explain, you need to welcome a JW also to defend what we preach, teach and strongly believe. God bless you! |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 2:53pm On May 02, 2018 |
Riofidelio:solid food ![]() ![]() |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 3:15pm On May 02, 2018 |
salvation101,as i've told you earlier Russell, Rutherford or any other past president of the Watchtower is not the founder of the organization. Each person was used to the best of their ability and capability by the one organizing things,predictions is not their work,they're to set the pace for how things should be done until God's Kingdom comes,they may try to warn members regarding the signs Jesus mentioned at Matthew 24:3-14 and members could start drawing wrong conclusions but that doesn't change the fact that God is pleased with their services. For example, consider Peter~Jesus told all His Apostles that He's laying the foundation of Christianity on the bases of what this faithful man said. Matthew 16:16-19 Peter was a presumptuous believer always making mistakes,One was a rumour spread amongst first century Christians that "John will not die until Jesus returns" by none other than Peter, it was 65 years later that John corrected the notion in his gospel account which was written after the book of Revelations. John 21:20-23 Another was the case of pretext before Jewish Christians. Galatians 2:11-14 Despite all his blunders including denying Jesus,God never change Peter as HIS mouthpiece amongst the Apostles. Act 2:14 Perhaps that's why he wasn't given the privilege to be part of the gospel writers but he remains who he is "Cephas" the one Jesus PERSONALLY gave the name "PETER" meaning "the rock" So imperfection could lead to blunders but whom God has blessed no man can curse! |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 3:28pm On May 02, 2018 |
salvation101:Jesus said something and Peter spread a wrong impression from 33 ce to 98 ce(John 21:20-23)imagine how many Christians must have died with that rumour in their brains! But Peter remained favoured before his God and before his master Jesus! What is compulsory is for Christians to continue preaching,teaching people and earnestly praying for God's Kingdom to come and not what they're going to achieve in this system of things! |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 4:02pm On May 02, 2018 |
Riofidelio:if Russell and Rutherford didn't found ur organization, then who did? And why where the first generation of jws called Russelites? |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 4:05pm On May 02, 2018 |
Riofidelio:are you accusing Apostle Peter of being an heretic? U can as well tear off his books from your bible. If u say he was heretic for those period u mentioned den u are accusing him of dying in heresy |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 4:19pm On May 02, 2018 |
Did Russel scam you? Did he scam your pastor? If you have any case against him, you may bring it forward. No one is forcing you to become a JW. You have your religion and that is fine by all JW. The mentality of feeling sanctimonious or pious above the JW is trivial and trashy. So far so good. We have been very transparent to you about our doctrine and beliefs. It is ours and we luxuriate in it. Jehovah is our God and we proudly represent him and his begotten son, Jesus who has asked us to advertise the king and his kingdom. We obey this call. We are not a miracle production company. We look to Jehovah to protect and direct us. Your hate and smear broadcast against us has not gotten any farther than where your predecessors have. You do not have the answers that we seek. You cannot defend your own doctrines and you hide under shadows to denigrate the JW. For a minute, spend this same energy with your pastors if you will get the answers that we supply you here. You have come here to learn from the JW. Be honest! So many things that you have learned so far. No other religion will calmly converse with you on issues relating to the Bible. You find no other points but date your arguments back to 1800's and 1920's. We are live and direct with you here. I asked you a simple question. What is the meaning of YAHWEH? You had no answer to it and you eclipsed. If you cannot answer a simple thing of that sort and yet you denigrate others and feel sagacious, what does that say about the organisation that you represent? You should compare doctrines and not malicious sophistry that people like you have put forth on blogs to smear the JW. Take away the internet, you have no argument. You are simply stalled in between a rock and a hard surface. What really is your scriptural import? I am spiritually blasted by the void in your Bible rendition. You uphold the KJV, you discredit it. You cling to ERV, you discredit it. Where exactly are you coming from? No one can hold you in the shadow. You cannot be a Pharisee and a Sadducee with the "c". You are representing pentecostal, Pentecostalism is broad. some Pentecostals do not share your beliefs. Some do not agree with the Trinity. You are anti-Catholics and you are anti-JW. Are you anti-RCCG? salvation101: 1 Like |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 4:26pm On May 02, 2018 |
removetheturban:he mustn't scam me to be a scammer. He scammed innocent farmers. He probably would av scammed me if i existed in his generation and he had the opportunity. Judas iscariot didn't betray me but i can call him a betrayer .. Ur religion is a scam, ur founder was a con man nd on several occasions u av been proven on this forum to av been economical with the truth and twist historical events to suite ur narrative wch can only be sold to ppl like those farmers ur originator scamed. Ur religion is false and Nairalanders deserves to be aware. ![]() ![]() |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 4:32pm On May 02, 2018 |
salvation101:You're winning my love! Thanks for that beautiful question. Jesus is the founder! He always make use of honesthearted persons not minding what they've been in the past, so far they're willing to accept correction Jesus will recruit them and make the best use of them according to their capabilities.Remember Matthew (tax collector)Peter (vicious man)Paul (murderer)Samaritan (prostitute)at Jacob's well even if the thief impaled beside Jesus could have the opportunity, Jesus would make use of him! And as for the group name well you and i know that Jesus' followers were formerly known as "disciples" until God bless them with the new group name "Christians" from the very mouth of ridiculers to distinguish between those practicing pure worship from disciples of Pharisees,Saducees,Sribes and other religious groups like Buddha and Krishna. Today so many are claiming to be Christians and not "disciples" so wise Jesus changed the name of His own group again to "Jehovah's witnesses" but all what He said about IDENTIFYING them still remains (1)They'll be hated by all other religious groups no matter what nation they may be.Matthew10:22 (2) They'll have love amongst themselves and everyone will notice it.John 13:35 (3) They'll always be occupied with the preaching and teaching work. Matthew 24:14,28:19/20 God bless you! |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 4:42pm On May 02, 2018 |
Riofidelio:interesting, so u agree that ur society has no root with the Apostles of Jesus (Ephesians 2:20)...so it was founded on another foundation right? Jesus came and committed the ministry again but dis time with u folks.. (1cor 3:11)... D individual dat came to lay dat ur foundation is definitely not Jesus but probably one of the fallen angels.. No wonder one of ir Brothers was trying to prove dat Jesus was angel Michael.. |
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