Welcome, Guest: Register On Nairaland / LOGIN! / Trending / Recent / NewStats: 3,202,023 members, 7,980,629 topics. Date: Sunday, 20 October 2024 at 07:19 PM |
Nairaland Forum / Nairaland / General / Properties / General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction (4769846 Views)
Discuss Anything Property And Lets Make Money In The Process / Residential Building Construction Mistakes In Nigeria You Need To Avoid / General Topic Thread - The Roforofo Thread Of Construction Activities (2) (3) (4)
(1) (2) (3) ... (963) (964) (965) (966) (967) (968) (969) ... (3767) (Reply) (Go Down)
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by folmus: 3:08pm On May 06, 2018 |
gabbytabby: We are waiting patiently!! |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 4:12pm On May 06, 2018 |
InvertedHammer: I just can't add more. You've said it all. Yes we are in the diaspora and have been exposed to new and most times better ways to do things. Most times architecture and applied building technology as done abroad is a reflection of their way of life, climate and cheapness as in cutting corners to meet the legal minimum. We in the diaspora must recognise this and build in Nigeria not only to the building code but to the environment and culture. What I see sometimes here is bragging by some diaspora of being abroad and putting down the Nigerian time tested solutions and taunting useless and not practical abroad solutions. Building entirely with wood is one example and there are many more examples. I give you one very vexatious abroad solution: building of balcony. From the USA to the UK to Australia; balcony solution is screwing prefabricated balcony to a wall plate on the external wall. The photos attached are from a currently on-going luxury apartments project in South East London. If you look at the photos carefully, you will notice that the building is near completion and some even sold. So what those workmen are doing as seen in the photos is screwing a prefabricated balcony on a metal plate on the external wall and pronto you have a balcony at a fraction of the cost of a properly built balcony. The problem with this is that balcony is very flimsy; it can only take a minimum amount of dead load. There have been many cases of balcony failure (collapse) from the UK to American and far Australia. See attached photos. What happened in that photo is the owner held a party and guest piled on the balcony to take some fresh air and the balcony collapse killing some guests. But in Nigeria, we don't screw on balcony. We deck it properly with possibly 16mm rods fused into the decking with proper burglary protection. Now imagine a diaspora seeing such flimsy balcony solution and start propagating such rubbish solution because na abroad. Because it is abroad doesn't mean it is always the best solution. Yes there are questions of skills and right tools of the trade with Nigerian artisans but when it comes to the right and proper solution to practical Nigeria building challenges, the Nigerian engineer is doing real fine. 5 Likes
|
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 4:48pm On May 06, 2018 |
InvertedHammer: Is bamboo not a local product? Building construction is not all about just technology but aesthetics too. If it were only to be technological then most buildings will have to be like T-800. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by shams040(m): 4:49pm On May 06, 2018 |
favoured247: Each block is 450mm which is 0.450m so divide it by the length and breath to get the number of blocks needed. For every 20 -30 blocks get a bag of cement and say 3-5head pan of sand. You can always do the calculation your self based on the current price of those materials. Then for labour I don't know how much but in Lagos it #4000-#5000 per hundred blocks. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by InvertedHammer: 4:53pm On May 06, 2018 |
bixton:/ If that's what you get from my statements, so be it. Grasses are local products too. Why don't you use them for pillars instead of iron rods? / |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by InvertedHammer: 5:03pm On May 06, 2018 |
diordaves:/* Our major problem here is earthquake. The houses are built with that in mind. Will I apply the same level of reinforcement in Nigeria to prove that I have "arrived"? I don't think anyone has any concerns with the way we build houses in Nigeria. The major concerns are lack of oversight and inspections, lacklustre finishing and non-uniform applicable building codes. The worst so far has been lack of serious input from the government in terms of supporting infrastructure. */ 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 5:03pm On May 06, 2018 |
diordaves: You have a point but I do not think the analogy used here is best suited.That building is a public one and that balcony is just a make shift with a designated load to carry. It will be insane for anyone to copy such without proper understanding. What is likened to that in Nigeria is people fabricating a staircase with steel pipe/iron rods to their rented shop from ground floor to 3rd floor on the external part of the building. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 5:46pm On May 06, 2018 |
Yes, you can fabricate and even prefabricate. What I'm saying is that not all abroad solutions are the best. Some time, the Nigeria solution is better than some abroad approach for certain circumstances. So we should look more to local content and application first. Another example is partitioning with dry wall. Why? When proper block is readily available. What I'm I trying to solve when it's not even so very cheaper. bixton: 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Flaghouse1: 6:03pm On May 06, 2018 |
diordaves: Environment,temperature plays an impact in the structure in this part of the divide,replicating buildings abroad in Nigeria you need to weigh the pros and cons of replicating same structure over here, durability and quality job is key and there is need to improve and adhere strictly to building codes 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by true2home(m): 7:41pm On May 06, 2018 |
The topic at hand is not complicated at all for people in the Engineering profession. Every building SHOULD be designed. What does this mean? A good designer; be it formally trained or informally trained; will make sure his or her design take into consideration the three key Engineering Design Ideology: Safety, Functionality and Economics. Safety: Build to code of the locality you are going to execute the project Functionality: Build what is going to serve the intended purpose. Don't waste your clients money building a single family home like a Government Monument and say you are building a STANDARD house. And yet, two out of the 6 bathroom/toilet really works. Economical: Whatever you are designing must be affordable to the local habitat. You can not design marble floor and high ceiling in a country with #18K minimum wage and keep calling it AFFORDABLE HOUSING. It beats the crap out of me when Luxury housing in choice area of Lagos says they are selling affordable houses. OUR MUMU TOO MUCH!!! Flaghouse1: 3 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by true2home(m): 7:46pm On May 06, 2018 |
Question for the house: I heard Iron Rod Steel's price is on the raise. Is this the case in Lagos as of today? |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 8:21pm On May 06, 2018 |
diordaves: Nigerians like over kill. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 8:30pm On May 06, 2018 |
true2home: Interesting. I do not think there's really a poor man in Nigeria. It's just an expression. Who no like packaging? 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Flaghouse1: 9:06pm On May 06, 2018 |
true2home: Succinctly put, you have said all that can be said on this particular issue,me need to build according to usage and affordability, a times I get lost when you see houses put in the market for sake within price range of N90 -N110 million, by the time you do the costing of materials used fir the build add cost of the last and possibility mark up profit of say 30% you hardly arrive at a value of up to N70million , our. Building are over priced. 4 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Flaghouse1: 9:20pm On May 06, 2018 |
true2home: Succinctly put, you have said all that can be said on this particular issue,we need to build according to usage and affordability, a times I get lost when you see houses put in the market for sale within price range of N90 -N110 million, by the time you do the costing of materials used for the build add cost of the land and mark up profit of say 30% you hardly arrive at a value of up to N70million , our Building are over priced. 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Chekitaut: 11:00pm On May 06, 2018 |
Flaghouse1:Building are really over price same with Land. Materials are over price due to cabals, everything in Nigeria is just jagajaga. Nothing stops cement being sold for N800/bag all required minerals used is here. The almighty SON also add salt to injury with blind eyes to substandard materials from other country coming in. 3 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Flaghouse1: 11:09pm On May 06, 2018 |
Chekitaut: True talk chief, the issue now is how do we get resolution to all these man-made obstacles in achieving" affordablhomes for all" |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Chekitaut: 2:53am On May 07, 2018 |
We represent our problems in Nigeria, Ajaokuta for exemple i can not see it raise again due to foreign influence and political ground, our iron ore is smuggled to many country. Cement manufacturers increase price due to foreign exchange but the question is only one resource is being import which is gypsum which is simple added to faster curing. The timber section control by local indigenous are being bought by Chinese that took export them, our political class has sold service for money & selfish greed. SON is a toothless bull dog, from all angle everything is not working, very painful our own sand & granite is expensive, i just ca not stop laughing to the system call Nigeria. i just think our capitalist system should be wipe off lets embrace Socialism. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Chekitaut: 3:06am On May 07, 2018 |
Flaghouse1:My Oga i no fit be Chief when i get elders for here, i beg oooo, i takecover. Traditional title no dey my house same time & i no come gbadun title sef, am humble & loyal. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Flaghouse1: 6:22am On May 07, 2018 |
Chekitaut: Okay MR.chekitaut wild o as usual 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Barryton: 9:40am On May 07, 2018 |
Chekitaut:Sir which is costlier between sharp sand & plaster sand? Do u have an idea o the cost difference? Thanks. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 11:15am On May 07, 2018 |
I am in need of a 20 feet container of 40x40 tiles. Can anybody here help in location of the companies who produce such within the southwest region? |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 11:24am On May 07, 2018 |
ThatHistoryGuy: Can you help me with the company you get your tiles from in Nigeria? I need a 20 feet container. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by InvertedHammer: 12:21pm On May 07, 2018 |
psychologist: /* Use Line x coating */ |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ThatHistoryGuy(m): 12:36pm On May 07, 2018 |
[quote author=Giniw post=67351773] Can you help me with the company you get your tiles from in Nigeria? I need a 20 feet container.[/quote OK chat me up on O81 57 OOO 9O8 |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Chekitaut: 5:43pm On May 07, 2018 |
Barryton:All depend on source of location. Lagos only hv plaster from Epe, Badagry, while Abeokuta, Sagamu supplies to close terrain to Lagos, cost differ from location to location. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Daboomb: 8:09pm On May 07, 2018 |
Chekitaut: In summary, EVERYTHING is OVER-PRICED! So, who or what should l blame...........if not GREED?
|
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Barryton: 9:47pm On May 07, 2018 |
Chekitaut:Thank u very much sir. But generally, which is costlier between sharp sand & plaster sand? My manson told me plaster sand is much more expensive, just wanted to confirm. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Chekitaut: 12:22am On May 08, 2018 |
Barryton:plaster is more cheaper at mining site. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 11:54am On May 08, 2018 |
diordaves:To be honest, most of these houses abroad will not last 5 years in 9ja.The roof will leak, it would be flooded when it rains and many more. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Barryton: 7:05pm On May 08, 2018 |
Chekitaut:thanks my brother |
(1) (2) (3) ... (963) (964) (965) (966) (967) (968) (969) ... (3767) (Reply)
Viewing this topic: 3 guest(s)
(Go Up)
Sections: politics (1) business autos (1) jobs (1) career education (1) romance computers phones travel sports fashion health religion celebs tv-movies music-radio literature webmasters programming techmarket Links: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10) Nairaland - Copyright © 2005 - 2024 Oluwaseun Osewa. All rights reserved. See How To Advertise. 89 |