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Re: NAFDAC Seals Off Emzor Pharmaceuticals, Others Over Codeine Abuse by Flaghouse1: 9:09am On May 08, 2018 |
lonelydora: I will only agree with you on the former as against the latter. What is the job description of a marketer - The sales man or marketer was into shady deals and if I am right "EMZOR would have a compliance unit where issues that runs foul to company policies are handled,the only place in my own opinion they were lax is not investigating the rise in the quantity of codeine the salesman was always reports on weekly or monthly basis and then take steps to confirm if they are being sold to the approved customer in the supply chain,if the contrary is the case the salesman will be issued a query to explain why he took such actions and possibly suspended for further investigation.this action would have opened a lots of can of worms and the company would have taking steps to correct this anomaly and save themselves this embarrassment. As its is now the company "EMZOR" would be seen as actively involved in the sales of codeine to aid drug abuse 1 Like |
Re: NAFDAC Seals Off Emzor Pharmaceuticals, Others Over Codeine Abuse by Nobody: 9:10am On May 08, 2018 |
Nafdac is doing thier Job kudos to them. In the investigative piece you could hear clearly the guy stating he wanted to sell to students and the reps knowing quite well he isn't a licensed pharmacist went ahead to sell him the drugs. One even taught him how he can circumvent the system without being a licensed pharmacist. They cant claim ignorance of the sudden hike in demand of a very abused drug. In such cases [quote author=Rainmania post=67376114]Nafdac is doing thier Job kudos to them. In the investigative piece you could hear clearly the guy stating he wanted to sell to students and the reps knowing quite well he isn't a licensed pharmacist went ahead to sell him the drugs. One even taught him how he can circumvent the system without being a licensed pharmacist. The firm's only care about increased sales so yes they are liable for making an already abused drug readily available. Let's stop thinking with our ass and thank God now the government is doing something about it. |
Re: NAFDAC Seals Off Emzor Pharmaceuticals, Others Over Codeine Abuse by Nobody: 9:11am On May 08, 2018 |
Slikbae: resorting to insults wen u dont points to support any argument shows lack of intelligent |
Re: NAFDAC Seals Off Emzor Pharmaceuticals, Others Over Codeine Abuse by dokiOloye(m): 9:12am On May 08, 2018 |
rusher14:That is like cutting off d head to spite the face. Anybody caught selling the drug without a genuine doctor's prescription should be arrested and prosecuted,simple. If there were no demand, the increase in production will halt and eventually reduce. |
Re: NAFDAC Seals Off Emzor Pharmaceuticals, Others Over Codeine Abuse by hopefulLandlord: 9:12am On May 08, 2018 |
OlujobaSamuel: Wrong! they would've just assumed people are buying their own product more and buying competitor's less |
Re: NAFDAC Seals Off Emzor Pharmaceuticals, Others Over Codeine Abuse by omodapson(m): 9:12am On May 08, 2018 |
rusher14: That is the tragedy we face in Nigeria. We hate for no reason instead of attacking issues and most people are just ignorant. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: NAFDAC Seals Off Emzor Pharmaceuticals, Others Over Codeine Abuse by rusher14: 9:13am On May 08, 2018 |
dokiOloye: Both parties have a responsibility. The drug manufacturers cannot hide behind ignorance when a drug that is hardly ever used up completely by a responsible household is now taken by the cartons. |
Re: NAFDAC Seals Off Emzor Pharmaceuticals, Others Over Codeine Abuse by Bishopsgate(m): 9:14am On May 08, 2018 |
gabrielniy: Which freaking investigation are you talking about? What is yet to be discovered or unearthed? 1. There is a codeine abuse epidemic especially in the North. 2. People buy them off the shelf without any form of restriction or prescription. 3. We need to ensure that pharmacies are adequately regulated to ensure that only those that truly need it get it. 4. To do 3 above, laws need to be put on place to guide the manufacturers on distribution modalities to ensure it gets to the pharmacies only who will only dispense on receipt of a valid prescription. Closing and employer of labour in a country like ours that is grossly suffering from unemployment and under manufacturing is just self destructive. If human life is really important to the government, Why hasn't the ministry of agriculture banned cow herding and grazing in Nigeria due to the thousands of people that have died as a result of the long archaic method of meat production and the wahala it creates with farmers and replace it with ranching? So it's the factories that can be closed so easily via fiat abi? |
Re: NAFDAC Seals Off Emzor Pharmaceuticals, Others Over Codeine Abuse by rusher14: 9:16am On May 08, 2018 |
omodapson: My brother, the country is on a long thing when the younger generation, the supposed more sophisticated generation, reason the way I see people do on this forum. |
Re: NAFDAC Seals Off Emzor Pharmaceuticals, Others Over Codeine Abuse by CSTR1003: 9:17am On May 08, 2018 |
KevinDein:Yes. Because only my "brothers " run pharmaceutical companies. And only my brothers are employed there. And only my brothers will suffer a crisis in the health sector. |
Re: NAFDAC Seals Off Emzor Pharmaceuticals, Others Over Codeine Abuse by Flaghouse1: 9:21am On May 08, 2018 |
voltred: I will subtly agree with you on you statement above, i think there are other inputs added to the cough syrup that will aggravate the state of mind of the user to run mad after usage,the investigation looking at it objectively is nit complete ,the BBC or any local media would have taken a step further by letting us know other drugs used with the codeine that make these guys run mad after usage 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: NAFDAC Seals Off Emzor Pharmaceuticals, Others Over Codeine Abuse by homesteady(m): 9:22am On May 08, 2018 |
frankmoney: Rusher14, this is another angle to what you are saying. They can't claim ignorance of the fact that the drug was abused. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: NAFDAC Seals Off Emzor Pharmaceuticals, Others Over Codeine Abuse by rusher14: 9:27am On May 08, 2018 |
homesteady: Thanks man. I know codeine based drugs are prescription only. In advanced societies you would be offered without codeine unless you have a doctor's prescription which the pharmacist can overrule, if it goes against his/her professional judgement. But trust Nigerians, they would sell death to their own siblings. Isn't it this same Nigeria people behead and mutilate others for ritual money? 1 Like |
Re: NAFDAC Seals Off Emzor Pharmaceuticals, Others Over Codeine Abuse by NwaliE01: 9:28am On May 08, 2018 |
Northern Nigerian states are beginning to infuriate me. Must they always contribute problems to the centre of her country. Majority of our problems are traceable to North. Lazy people are from the North. Boko Harem from the North. Miss world crisis in the North. Drug abuse again is North. Don tire for the North oh. |
Re: NAFDAC Seals Off Emzor Pharmaceuticals, Others Over Codeine Abuse by Ijebulogic(m): 9:30am On May 08, 2018 |
In that case, due to the alcoholism issue we have in Nigeria leading to motor accidents, domestic violence, liver disease etc, we should also close down Nigerian Breweries? Surely they have witnessed a surge in demand for alcohol so using your strange logic, they should also be held liable for societies ills rather than the government admitting it has not met the expectations of today's youth population who are now druggies and addicts. This problem is bigger than Emzor and the government don't understand the tsunami brewing in the nation. rusher14: 2 Likes |
Re: NAFDAC Seals Off Emzor Pharmaceuticals, Others Over Codeine Abuse by lonelydora: 9:40am On May 08, 2018 |
Flaghouse1: I believe the bolded is just the issue 1 Like |
Re: NAFDAC Seals Off Emzor Pharmaceuticals, Others Over Codeine Abuse by dokiOloye(m): 9:44am On May 08, 2018 |
rusher14:In the so called 1st world,the only reason for adherence to law and order is STRICT LAW ENFORCEMENT AND PROSECUTION by the agencies responsible for that,not that d ppl in those places have better moral values than us. That is why America etc is ready to take d war against cocaine abuse to Colombia or d war against terrorism to Afghanistan. NAFDAC,Police etc should start d war from the abusers themselves,back to the patent medicine shops,pharmacy shops and ppl who sell in d black market. Codeine has never been an illegal drug,in fact,it was classified as a prescription drug recently when d abuse started. 1 Like |
Re: NAFDAC Seals Off Emzor Pharmaceuticals, Others Over Codeine Abuse by erico2k2(m): 9:47am On May 08, 2018 |
Trending01:Dangerous move, the producers are not at fault rather the abusers. When would the FG stop reasoning with their anus. |
Re: NAFDAC Seals Off Emzor Pharmaceuticals, Others Over Codeine Abuse by dokiOloye(m): 9:49am On May 08, 2018 |
new2012:He's probably a Buhari supporter too. Very violent on and offline. |
Re: NAFDAC Seals Off Emzor Pharmaceuticals, Others Over Codeine Abuse by erico2k2(m): 9:49am On May 08, 2018 |
Ijebulogic:Good point! |
Re: NAFDAC Seals Off Emzor Pharmaceuticals, Others Over Codeine Abuse by Jman06(m): 9:55am On May 08, 2018 |
Sealing Emzor's factory is not the solution to the problem. NAFDAC granted them license to produce the product in the first place. It is the duty of same NAFDAC to monitor how the product is sold. They should have ensured that such prescription-only medication is strictly sold on prescription by making sure that not every shop or seller gets access to the product. Such products should be sold only in pharmacies by a registered pharmacist and with the prescription of a physician. But here in nigeria, every tom, diick and harry has access to such sensitive drugs. Emzor on her part, should stop employing non-pharmacists to sell such ethical drugs, because the tendency is that such unqualified people would not care about who and where they sell such products. Regulation is the watchword! If you must license the sells of ethical drugs, then you have to be up and doing in regulating how they are made and sold. |
Re: NAFDAC Seals Off Emzor Pharmaceuticals, Others Over Codeine Abuse by 2lateBiafra: 9:58am On May 08, 2018 |
DuruCrusher: Na IGBO MAN COMPANY..............IGBOS are CRIMINALS |
Re: NAFDAC Seals Off Emzor Pharmaceuticals, Others Over Codeine Abuse by dokiOloye(m): 10:02am On May 08, 2018 |
bilazego:The all know d cause of d problem, but will choose to ignore that and chase shadows. The root of all these is linked d brand of Islam practised in the north. Mohamed mentioned that Muslims should not take alcohol and they have hypocritically taken it to mean they can get high on any other thing except alcohol. I hope they don't blame Emzor for the high rate and open consumption of Marijuana in the north. 1 Like |
Re: NAFDAC Seals Off Emzor Pharmaceuticals, Others Over Codeine Abuse by Tundeobama(m): 10:04am On May 08, 2018 |
I pods are the most tribalist tribe in the universe ,three firm was shut down but they keep mentioning emzor alone other two own by yoruba. Ipod support evil as far as to defend a tribe.millions are dying of drug abuse same thing you doing in South Africa and they are burning your shop and hotel down you sell illegal drugs just for dirty money. You people don't care about people life just to make money and blame justice. Kudos to nafdac more. need to be done. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: NAFDAC Seals Off Emzor Pharmaceuticals, Others Over Codeine Abuse by Flaghouse1: 10:04am On May 08, 2018 |
lonelydora:t That to me seems to be the issue ,even if the sales man video did not pop up, once investigation starts into the proliferation and increased consumption of codeine in the northern part of the country they will need to collate datas of quantity produced by each pharmaceutical company and marry that quantity with those registered pharmacies ,hospitals it was sold to, and after that a process would be developed to confirm that he sales by the chemist, pharmacies were done with prescriptions ,if they were sold over the voter without the required prescription that would be a pointer that the drugs are now consumed for other purposes rather than what it was intended for. After all the above "EMZOR" may be called to order to make sure the drugs are sold to registered pharmacies and possibly carry out advertorials in conjunction with NAFADAC to dissuade the sale of codeine without prescription.but you kno Nigeria as a country we let things get out of hand before taking necessary actions to mitigate the impact of the risk therein 1 Like |
Re: NAFDAC Seals Off Emzor Pharmaceuticals, Others Over Codeine Abuse by Kennydoc(m): 10:05am On May 08, 2018 |
rusher14: Oga, all the codeine abused didn't come from Emzor. Much of them were even imported from Asia, and were duly cleared by customs. Why not ban customs too? Emzor is a very big pharmaceutical company. Right from my childhood, Emzor paracetamol has been selling. They also have many other drugs that have dominated the market. Talking about the codeine ish, hope you're aware it didn't happen overnight? Even if Emzor experienced a significant increase in their sales, it definitely happened gradually over several years, so it may not have been easy to link it go abuse specifically. Moreover, we can't say with certainty that most of the codeine abused came from Emzor and the other companies mentioned. They only dragged Emzor in cos of the rep who was possibly doing a personal runs and making his money. In the western world, drug companies do not have a hand in regulating the consumption of drugs. It's the regulatory agencies that do that, and they are the ones that ensure pharmacist never dispense medications without prescription. Drug companies manufacture drugs and use their established outlets of distribution. When they experience increased sales, it will be attributed to their gaining more grounds over their competitors. 2 Likes |
Re: NAFDAC Seals Off Emzor Pharmaceuticals, Others Over Codeine Abuse by rusher14: 10:09am On May 08, 2018 |
Kennydoc: All well and good until one of their agents was caught on camera boasting about it. He even proved his mettle by providing cartons for undercover reporters. Emzor has blame in this issue and it cannot be twisted any other way. |
Re: NAFDAC Seals Off Emzor Pharmaceuticals, Others Over Codeine Abuse by Kennydoc(m): 10:12am On May 08, 2018 |
onegig: See this one! Which controlled substance are you talking about? These guys buy cough syrups with codeine and abuse them, and you're talking about what I don't know. The last time I checked, cough syrups are over the counter medications - Benyllin with codeine is an example. Emzor as a company may not have even known what was happening, except you can prove to me that majority of the abused codeine came from them. This abuse has been going on for a long time, so what ever increased sales Emzor might have experienced did not happen overnight. They won't use this opportunity to address Tramadol abuse now o. I guess they will be waiting for CNN documentary before they will act. By then, they will blame it on another pharmaceutical company. Useless NAFDAC! 1 Like |
Re: NAFDAC Seals Off Emzor Pharmaceuticals, Others Over Codeine Abuse by rusher14: 10:13am On May 08, 2018 |
dokiOloye: But the youtube video i attached to one of my response here showed boys in Lagos who abuse codeine. Is this down to religion as well? See below: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CG9QfEA1yfg |
Re: NAFDAC Seals Off Emzor Pharmaceuticals, Others Over Codeine Abuse by dokiOloye(m): 10:15am On May 08, 2018 |
Lucid1:Bros,tell yourself d truth,you can't swear that it with d BBC journalist's issue you came to know about d issue codeine abuse. Virtually every drug can be abused,panadol/paracetamol are even more abused than codeine,that is why its looking like there's an increase in the cases of gastric ulcer nowadays. Should d govt go and shutdown d company producing d drugs. If the Emzor marketer was found to have sold to unapproved outlets,he should be prosecuted for that,simple,alongside with his buyers and chemists/pharmacy shops who sell without prescription. Codeine based cough syrups are not illegal drugs and have never been.They are just prescription drugs,simple. |
Re: NAFDAC Seals Off Emzor Pharmaceuticals, Others Over Codeine Abuse by PVision2020(m): 10:15am On May 08, 2018 |
CSTR1003:Your arguments have always been devoid of logic especially when it concerns the east or anyone related to the east. The 1. Who told you codeine is the best world cough "therapy"? Codeine is just a narcotic that works by suppressing the cough reflex in the brain, eventually reducing the frequency of cough. It's neither the most active ingredient in cough cyrup nor does it cure cough all on it own. Just like every narcotics, codeine sends a false signal to the cough reflex in the brain but does nothing about the mucous concentration itself. Narcotics have very high risk to benefit ratio due to its direct contact with the central nervous system hence it use and dosages are strictly regulated, requiring cooperation of both the manufacturers and regulators. 2. Let Emzor and the others show Nafdac and Ndlea the documents stipulating the quantity of codeine imported or produce, the quantity use in the production of cough cyrups and other drugs that requires the use of codeine and the quantity of drugs involving codeine permitted by the regulatory body to be produced and sold during the time under review. 3. No company is bigger than humanity, so if Emzor and the others are found culpable of the offence, they should be made to face the full wrath of the law. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: NAFDAC Seals Off Emzor Pharmaceuticals, Others Over Codeine Abuse by claremont(m): 10:17am On May 08, 2018 |
rusher14: Wrong. Codeine linctus can be sold over the counter in pharmacies for patients above 12 years. A prescription is only required for Codeine tablets. |
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