steveosaz:


Good that you have finally revealed your true chameleonic nature today. That's the trademark of you yorubas. Anyway, you had to since no one was buying into it. You and your fellow lying compatriots have finally derailed this thread into puerile banters simply because you couldn't stand the staring truth that your entire portfolio of history is a chequered fraud.

Go on with your rudderless stroll.

Obalufon:
ijebu under Benin i go laugh die ooo oyo self try tire ijebus no gree not to talk of Benin kingdom... ijebu fought British pound for pound bloody war both side lost otunba kuku of ijebu was placed on royalty salary by the british till death after they signed paece treaty and surrender to British rule . bloody imagbon war Benin on the underhand had little skirmish with them their city was burnt down without much resistance after raping and looting of their palace the oba was banished abomination of the highest order and his chiefs were hung openly as a deterrent for other big mouthed edo or benis people that act without thinking ,ologbosere oliha and others and their important chiefs .. ...Benin controlling ondo and ekiti is not by war you have to know that ekiti can't attack benin kingdom is like attacking them ile ife stool of oduduwa they will be checked ..omo noba has the right to ask for treaty na him papa land but by muscle ..c'mon

gregyboy:



Lies.....a site written by the same yorubas how do verify if its the truth....it was written by the yorubas

I gave you a link wriiten from an unkown source about the three kingdom oyo,Benin, dahomey
Which clearly state that the Dahomey female warrior invaded the oyo empire for slaves around 17c to 18c

Now if be it dahomey was under oyo empire that wouldnt have happened
Thesame dahomey h claim was under your pop has a little of edo pop ..came as well in d 1990 to revered the old empire in honour to adopt its name for it country

Moorish:


The Ijebus (Imagbon war) and the western Igbos of delta (Ekumeku war) fought most valiantly against the British.
that is not war of savages ..without guns ..do you how those people were running around butt naked in the forest ..they can't be ruled indirectly because they were savages

Obalufon:
Do you know how those people were that time running around butt Unclad in the forest ..they can't even rule them indirectly because they were savages with no standing ruling system of governance ...that is not a war just a shooting practice ....British will never count that as war the only resistance they had was in the west and north ..real war. not one naked pygmies running around in the bush with arrows

Obalufon:
Do you know how those people were that time running around butt Unclad in the forest ..they can't even rule them indirectly because they were savages with no standing ruling system of governance ...that is not a war just a shooting practice ....British will never count that as war the only resistance they had was in the west and north ..real war. not one naked pygmies running around in the bush with arrows

Obalufon:


dahomey became independent around middle 19 century when oyo had already lost the north to afonja muslim brotherhood the empire can't stand again egba rebelled against oyo by killing his ajeles in egba with help of lisabi so they can't control the southern part of the empire again ..dahomey tried to muscle power by attacking egbas to acquire slaves for their slave market but they were dealt with seriously true they used female soldier in battle with egbas not Oyo which was a mystically approach in war to demoralized opponent but egba too reacted with use of female soldier led by iya olode egba madan tunubu they conquered the Dahomey army

gregyboy:



Lies show me a dahomey source that state they were under the oy empire ....all written account are from the yorubas non is from dahomey ....no trace of oyo influence in benin republic apart from oyo people who were captured by dahomey warrior as slave in the present benin republic....
But benin didn't not conqurer oyo but it influence rose to the entire kingdom they adopt the name benin as thier country name not oyo

If i were to go buy this and judge who would someone believed had influence on dahomey..
Yoruba should stop lying on people head...

gregyboy:



Lies show me a dahomey source that state they were under the oy empire ....all written account are from the yorubas non is from dahomey ....no trace of oyo influence in benin republic apart from oyo people who were captured by dahomey warrior as slave in the present benin republic....
But benin didn't not conqurer oyo but it influence rose to the entire kingdom they adopt the name benin as thier country name not oyo

If i were to go buy this and judge who would someone believed had influence on dahomey..
Yoruba should stop lying on people head...

Obalufon:



you go fail history go buy west africa history book and read

Moneywomen17:
so if I bring a source written by a Dahomey u will not attempt to lie that his parents are Yoruba hmm

gregyboy:


Lol ...dont worry i have read from a dahomey source that some part of dahomey was controlled by oyo ...but later reclaimed back in d 19c....

But wtf is dahomey something oyo should be proud of dahomey is like d backyard to lagos...
A kingdom dat rose in 16c fell 19c.oyo should forget been proud of defeating female warriors of dahomey...they later came and defeated Oyo verse versa.... Ok.... But majour influence on dahomey is still from benin

gregyboy:


Lol ...dont worry i have read from a dahomey source that some part of dahomey was controlled by oyo ...but later reclaimed back in d 19c....

But wtf is dahomey something oyo should be proud of dahomey is like d backyard to lagos...
A kingdom dat rose in 16c fell 19c.oyo should forget been proud of defeating female warriors of dahomey...they later came and defeated Oyo verse versa.... Ok.... But majour influence on dahomey is still from benin

BabaRamota1980:


Britain could not succumb Dahomey, much as they tried. The same Britain that leveled Edoland.

You trivialize Dahomey's power.
smh....

West African history is not complete without Dahomey.

The British dont take you serious as they did Dahomey.

Obalufon:
Do you know how those people were that time running around butt Unclad in the forest ..they can't even rule them indirectly because they were savages with no standing ruling system of governance ...that is not a war just a shooting practice ....British will never count that as war the only resistance they had was in the west and north ..real war. not one naked pygmies running around in the bush with arrows

davidnazee:


So you really believe your own lies or you just consoling yourself?
The only resistance the British encountered and remembers and still discuss till today in whole of West Africa is the War with Benin Kingdom and resistance from some Niger-Delta leaders..
Who be West (yoruba)? Yoruba that surrendered as soon as they hear single gunshot?

Moneywomen17:
lol o boy see life. U should be ashamed after all ur lies u finally decided to read. And oyo controlled all of 10,000 km2 of Dahomey not some which is not small and were free due to the fall of oyo just like egba and others took advantage of the fall. Dahomey Amazon are another infantry of Dahomey not the whole infantry there were many male warriors the women were just popular coz they were women and vicious. With that said bring a source that shows that Benin ever had an “influence” on Dahomey and what the influence was and a kingdom that reign for 3 centuries is not short my guy

BabaRamota1980:
Okay we don hear.

Where is ekaladeran? What was his wrongdoing?

Moneywomen17:
I also provided a Ghanaian source written by Ghanaian themselves that shows that it was oyo that defeated their Ashanti army. Oyo empire can never ever be downplay by haters. If not for internal troubles it will have been more greater than it was.

davidnazee:


Really??

davidnazee:


Yoruba see your history!!

Before the advent of missionaries and the British colonial masters to what is now Nigeria, the language spoken by the people of the south-west today identified as the Yorubas was called ANAGO. But the Hausa/Fulanis to the north of old Oyo empire called them by a derogative nick name YABA YABA/YOBA.
Therefore when the Hausa's refers to the Anago speakers of Old Oyo, they called them by that name. Sometimes it is pronounced "youba. " When the missionaties started pouring into the south-west after the abolition of slavery, they met a territory in the throes of civil wars. Old Oyo had fallen to the Hausa/Fulanis, thanks to Afonja. Ibadan was trying to enslave all the other ANAGO-speaking people. There was the the Ijaye war and the Kiriji war. It was only the Benin army that stood between Ibadan and Ile-Ife.

The missionaries, most of who were freed yoruba slaves-Bishop Ajayi Crowther was one of them, started looking for away to unite the warring Anago clans.
They also wanted to preach the GOSPEL OF CHRIST TO THE GRASS ROOT. On the other hand the British colonial administrators wanted a peaceful territory to rule over and an educated elite to work in their civil service. The missionaries therefore adopted OYO VERSION of ANAGO, which the Hausa/Fulanis have given yaba/yoba/youba as the name of the general language of the Anago-speaking group. Bishop Ajayi Crowther published the first dictionary of ANAGO as Yoruba language. Oyo became the CMS academic headquarters. It the saw the birth of St Andrew's college, Oyo which actually started as trade school in the 1800's. And gradually, very gradually the word YORUBA displaced ANAGO.
The people of the south-west today are bearing the nick-name given to them by the Hausa/Fulanis.


Fulani conquered you and changed your lifestyle and name forever. Even till today they still dey conquer una.

davidnazee:


So you really believe your own lies or you just consoling yourself?
The only resistance the British encountered and remembers and still discuss till today in whole of West Africa is the War with Benin Kingdom and resistance from some Niger-Delta leaders..
Who be West (yoruba)? Yoruba that surrendered as soon as they hear single gunshot?

davidnazee:


Ekaladeran is your diety ododuwa

BabaRamota1980:


Britain could not succumb Dahomey, much as they tried. The same Britain that leveled Edoland.

You trivialize Dahomey's power.
smh....

West African history is not complete without Dahomey.

The British dont take you serious as they did Dahomey.

gregyboy:


Lol ...dont worry i have read from a dahomey source that some part of dahomey was controlled by oyo ...but later reclaimed back in d 19c....

But wtf is dahomey something oyo should be proud of dahomey is like d backyard to lagos...
A kingdom dat rose in 16c fell 19c.oyo should forget been proud of defeating female warriors of dahomey...they later came and defeated Oyo verse versa.... Ok.... But majour influence on dahomey is still from benin

prolog2:
Dahomey was never under oyo controle.
It seems you have let yoruba fool you.
What you should be asking for are historical documents.
You can't be contempt with people living today telling stories of events which supposedly took place five hundred years ago !
There is no historical record of oyo being an important kingdom. oyo was a small and young kingdom which got fvcked by fulani.
Dahomey on the other hand had contacts with europe and a lot of notes were taken which describe Dahomey sovereignty.
The only kingom which had influence over Dahomey is the Benin empire, and that was untill the french started invading dahomey.

Moneywomen17:
ur brother decided to read from a Dahomey source but u are here lying trying to confuse him about it. Show me a source that Dahomey was under Benin village.