LordAdam:


SMH!

It's now time to defend Benzema's poor scoring shey.

Benzema in La Liga -- 1820 minutes, 37 chances created, 5 goals scored
Bale in La Liga -- 1458 minutes, 37 chances created, 11 goals scored

That's the way Benzema was the main striker last year, but Morata outscored him. Yet, you want to chalk last season's trophies to Benzema's productivity. Mayoral has played far less minutes than Benzema yet Benzema has 11 goals in total versus his 9.

But when all fails, blame the coach

Can you try to understand the origin of the argument?

https://www.nairaland.com/924289/real-madrid-fans-thread-back/452#67507284

No one is giving excuses for Benzema except if we are making one for the Welshman

Okay o. By your logic, for next season, we should sell Bale, keep Benzema, and not sign anyone up front since Benzema can help us win 2 trophies. After all, Bale was injured for the most part of last year. How many Ayes do I get?

-Lord

Where did i made mention of letting Benz to continue and not sign any attackers?

hardeycute:
I do not expect Benzema to give me what he does not have.Everyone knows he does more than scoring

How many goals did Bale add to his tally in dead rubber games? and how many did he score when the team is already 2/3/4 goals up.

You were the one who talked about what ought instead of what is.

No one is asking you to spare Benzema, only if you would not make Bale's low performance, the team's fault

What exactly do you mean by doing more than scoring?

Bale also does more than scoring.

You were asked a simple question, how many points did Benzema's goals in La Liga help us get? Answer it, before you retort with a Bale stat-padding accusation.

And while you're at it, kindly tell us what Benzema's primary purpose on the team is?

-Lord

LordAdam:


It's not only about leaving or injury. The GOAT doesn't play a lot of games anymore. And that's never going to change, in fact, it'd get fewer.

So we need someone who'd be able to step-up to fill the scoring void. Benzema is simply not that person.

He combines well, passes well, has terrific vision, but he's a 10-15 goal per season player now. Not the 25-30 goal per season main striker RM need. He has scored the same number of goals as Asensio this year.

-Lord

we no longer see Benz as a scorer, that's why we don't blame him for lack of goals any more. After all, he has become a prolific 10.

usbcable:


You still haven't answered the question of how Benzema has outperformed Bale

Benzema and Cr7 Link up play in regards to Cr7 and Bale on field

Dead rubber games? How many points has Benz's 5 goal gotten for the team this season?

Check up how many he has created for Cr7

Former Real Madrid midfielder: Vinicius is very selfish, he dribbles too much


Real Madrid struck early when they confirmed the signing of teenage prodigy Vinicius Junior, however, not everybody has bought into the hype since then with Dejan Petkovic suggesting that the Flamengo forward is selfish and that he loses possession a lot.


Despite having forced his way into the senior team on a regular basis this term, the former Real Madrid midfielder doesn't believe the Brazilian is yet ready to contribute for Los Blancos.

"Vinicius is very selfish, he dribbles too much and loses possession a lot," he explained to Sport TV.

"He's a very good individual but not a great team player.

"He takes too many touches, dribbles without creating a goal and looks for spectacular diagonal passes."

Whilst it hasn't yet been decided just when the Brazilian forward will arrive in the Spanish capital, he has contributed four goals and two assists in the six matches he's played in the Brazilian League and Copa Libertadores this season.

LordAdam:


What exactly do you mean by doing more than scoring?

His passing, chances created

Bale also does more than scoring

Like what? Losing possessions?
Not defending?

You were asked a simple question, how many points did Benzema's goals in La Liga help us get? Answer it, before you retort with a Bale stat-padding accusation.

And while you're at it, kindly tell us what Benzema's primary purpose on the team is?

-Lord

This is not a Bale-Benzema discourse

Miremoses1:
funny enough. Papa Perez would rather sale Bale than Benz.

Yeah. Benz is his boy. Many strikers have come and gone because of Benz and not because of Benz performance.

Bale has won us a CDR in the absence of Ronnie.

Bale has helped us win the 10th by scoring a decisive 2nd goal.

Suddenly hold up play is better than Bale.

hardeycute:
Can you try to understand the origin of the argument?

https://www.nairaland.com/924289/real-madrid-fans-thread-back/452#67507284

No one is giving excuses for Benzema except if we are making one for the Welshman

Where did i made mention of letting Benz to continue and not sign any attackers?

Why would anyone talk about Bale's performance during CR7's bad run?

For one he was still injured at the beginning of the season, and whenever he came in later on, he played fewer minutes for protection reasons.

Virtually every player except Navas takes flak for the beginning of the season, why are you bringing up a player who barely played then and trying to compare him to a "main striker" who he outperformed resoundingly with fewer minutes.

-Lord

hardeycute:
His passing, chances created

Like what? Losing possessions?
Not defending?

This is not a Bale-Benzema discourse

Really? "Not defending."

Seriously, I give up. Why do you have to make things up just to berate Bale.

Bale has created as many chances as Benzema in La Liga with fewer matches.

It's not a Bale-Benzema discourse, but you're trying to say he's not doing enough and at the same making excuses for Benz.

Wow!

Someone really said Bale doesn't defend.

-Lord

usbcable:



Bale has won us a CDR in the absence of Ronnie

How much was he bought for?

[s]Bale has helped us win the 10th by scoring a decisive 2nd goal.

Suddenly hold up play is better than Bale[/s]

Let's all forget Di Maria's drive

Miremoses1:
we no longer see Benz as a scorer, that's why we don't blame him for lack of goals any more. After all, he has become a prolific 10.

Fair enough. So why would anyone decide to take a cheap shot at the second highest goal scorer on the team. It's almost like holding two players to different standards.

Benzema has always been an amazing playmaker. However, he also carried out his primary task in the past. Score goals. Now he has abdicated that primary task. And yet when Bale picks that tab, some begin to act like it's division of labor. No it isn't. Benzema should not have 5 goals in the league. Playmaking or no playmaking.

Peeps should stop confusing loyalty for free pass.

-Lord

Miremoses1:
we no longer see Benz as a scorer, that's why we don't blame him for lack of goals any more. After all, he has become a prolific 10.

So who is now the scorer to be blamed when we don't get goals?
Mayoral or Bale or Vasquez or Asensio?

Common...all these guys track back to defend and.make runs at goal and being deadly too.

When last has Benz holding the ball been a deadly scenario to you the spectator talkless of the on field players

usbcable:


So who is now the scorer to be blamed when we don't get goals?
Mayoral or Bale or Vasquez or Asensio?

Common...all these guys track back to defend and.make runs at goal and being deadly too.

When last has Benz holding the ball been a deadly scenario to you the spectator talkless of the on field players

Benz is no longer a striker. Simple

LordAdam:


What exactly do you mean by doing more than scoring?

Bale also does more than scoring.

You were asked a simple question, how many points did Benzema's goals in La Liga help us get? Answer it, before you retort with a Bale stat-padding accusation.

And while you're at it, kindly tell us what Benzema's primary purpose on the team is?

-Lord

No mind him.
He accuses Bale of stat padding yet he has been unable to come up with the points 5 goals has earned us in 29 matches (1 goal per 6 matches)

Miremoses1:
Benz is no longer a striker. Simple

What is he then holding midfield-striker

LordAdam:


Fair enough. So why would anyone decide to take a cheap shot at the second highest goal scorer on the team. It's almost like holding two players to different standards.

Benzema has always been an amazing playmaker. However, he also carried out his primary task in the past. Score goals. Now he has abdicated that primary task. And yet when Bale picks that tab, some begin to act like it's division of labor. No it isn't. Benzema should not have 5 goals in the league. Playmaking or no playmaking.

Peeps should stop confusing loyalty for free pass.

-Lord

the earlier we stop relying on Benz to score tons of goals, the better for all of us.

usbcable:


So who is now the scorer to be blamed when we don't get goals?
Mayoral or Bale or Vasquez or Asensio?

Common...all these guys track back to defend and.make runs at goal and being deadly too.

When last has Benz holding the ball been a deadly scenario to you the spectator talkless of the on field players

It's almost as if Benzema just became a playmaker this year. Like he wasn't making incisive passes and more for years now.

If what he's doing is enough, then why are we about to break records for a consistent goal scorer? Do Icardi or Kane playmake better than Benzema?

But Bale is the issue. Bale who didn't return until December when the League was already out of sight. It's Bale who should have performed better despite scoring twice more goals than the "main striker" in less minutes.

So Bale was stat padding. Why is Benzema not stat padding as well? Since it's so easy.

-Lord

usbcable:


What is he then holding midfield-striker

call him what ever, the simple truth is that benz isn't a no9 any more. He has turned himself to CR7's assistant, that's why when CR7 doesn't play. Benz doesn't deliver.

hardeycute:
His passing, chances created

Like what? Losing possessions?
Not defending?

This is not a Bale-Benzema discourse

The bolded part shows you really don't observe other team.mates contributions to game play.

Bale had always covered the flank on behalf of Carvahal. And he still presses up field to create as much chances as Benz.

Benz being the main striker hardly comes close to the 18 yard box even when we defend.


And yes its not about Bale-Benz but justifying Benz's performance as being superb while ridiculing Bale using the same metrics is where the problem lies.

You don't twist the rules just for the fun of it

usbcable:
it won't matter much as long as we get to win on 26th

omo e nr dy happen

U guys must lose

Miremoses1:
call him what ever, the simple truth is that benz isn't a no9 any more. He has turned himself to CR7's assistant, that's why when CR7 doesn't play. Benz doesn't deliver.

Jesus wept
Itaf finished for Benz with this your comment especially the underlined part

Neimar:


omo e nr dy happen

U guys must lose

Just don't deactivate like Byke.
We got this one covered

usbcable:

Jesus wept
Itaf finished for Benz with this your comment especially the underlined part

what is wrong with the underlined word?

Miremoses1:
the earlier we stop relying on Benz to score tons of goals, the better for all of us.

Personally, I don't have qualms with Benzema. He does what he can when he can. If Isco hadn't stuck out his leg in a moment of lack of concentration yesterday, Benz would have had a goal. And for all he has done for the club, he deserves to bow out gracefully.

But what I wouldn't take is doing that at the expense of another player. Trying to scapegoat Bale while trying to give Benzema a pass is just a low blow.

-Lord

LordAdam:


It's almost as if Benzema just became a playmaker this year. Like he wasn't making incisive passes and more for years now.

If what he's doing is enough, then why are we about to break records for a consistent goal scorer? Do Icardi or Kane playmake better than Benzema?

But Bale is the issue. Bale who didn't return until December when the League was already out of sight. It's Bale who should have performed better despite scoring twice more goals than the "main striker" in less minutes.

So Bale was stat padding. Why is Benzema not stat padding as well? Since it's so easy.

-Lord

Exactly.

This was the primary reason Higuain was sold off as against Benz.

Benz scored and created chances. The later he still does but the former which he is employed for has disappeared.

He forgot that Bale suffered season ending injury last term that made Wales miss out of World cup and he only returned mid season.

Miremoses1:
what is wrong with the underlined word?

So you asking me to interpret what is menat by saying a player doesn't deliver.

Na you write am. No be me.
You do the exegesis yourself

LordAdam:


Personally, I don't have qualms with Benzema. He does what he can when he can. If Isco hadn't stuck out his leg in a moment of lack of concentration yesterday, Benz would have had a goal. And for all he has done for the club, he deserves to bow out gracefully.

But what I wouldn't take is doing that at the expense of another player. Trying to scapegoat Bale while trying to give Benzema a pass is just a low blow.

-Lord

Gbamsolutely

LordAdam:


Personally, I don't have qualms with Benzema. He does what he can when he can. If Isco hadn't stuck out his leg in a moment of lack of concentration yesterday, Benz would have had a goal. And for all he has done for the club, he deserves to bow out gracefully.

But what I wouldn't take is doing that at the expense of another player. Trying to scapegoat Bale while trying to give Benzema a pass is just a low blow.

-Lord

no one is blaming bale for benz misfortune in front of goal. But one thing is for sure, apart from goals. Benz brings balance in the team more than bale,that's why zizou prefers to play him ahead of bale.

usbcable:


[s]So you asking me to interpret what is menat by saying a player doesn't deliver.

Na you write am. No be me.
You do the exegesis yourself[/s]

rubbish

Miremoses1:
no one is blaming bale for benz misfortune in front of goal. But one thing is for sure, apart from goals. Benz brings balance in the team more than bale,that's why zizou prefers to play him ahead of bale.

You're conflating things.

Bale scores, assists, create chances, defends.

Benzema assists and create chances.

But by someone's logic here Bale's "underperformance" should be called to question and Benzema should be given a pass because he "does more than scoring."

It's double standard. Then the same person turns around and say it's not a Bale-Benzema discourse. It's not a Bale-Benze discourse or comparison but you're trying to convince us that Benzema's 5 goals in La Liga is "productive" output, but Bale's 13 goals is stat-padding.

I'm not even going to talk about the "balance" point because it is very subjective.

-Lord

Miremoses1:
rubbish

I didn't say it you said it guy.

With your hands you admitted the profligacy of our striker.

And you went further to say it is rubbish.

LordAdam:


You're conflating things.

Bale scores, assists, create chances, defends.

Benzema assists and create chances.

But by someone's logic here Bale's "underperformance" should be called to question and Benzema should be given a pass because he "does more than scoring."

It's double standard. Then the same person turns around and say it's not a Bale-Benzema discourse. It's not a Bale-Benze discourse or comparison but you're trying to convince us that Benzema's 5 goals in La Liga is "productive" output, but Bale's 11 goals is stat-padding.

I'm not even going to talk about the "balance" point because it is very subjective.

-Lord

Its actually 13 goals sef.