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"Winners Chapel Would Soon Be Paying Tithes Of Trillions" - Bishop Oyedepo by HigherEd: 4:44pm On May 16, 2018
'As a church, we started paying tithes when we were worth less than 1 million naira a year; we are now in the billions; very soon, we shall bé hitting the trillions'

Dr David Oyedepo



https://www.facebook.com/Churchgist.org/posts/1345218818955319

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Re: "Winners Chapel Would Soon Be Paying Tithes Of Trillions" - Bishop Oyedepo by HigherEd: 4:45pm On May 16, 2018
And I can attest that in January of 2011 Winners Chapel paid 1.5 Billion naira in Tithe to RCCG for the month. Assuming the size of the January Tithe was not a surge due to Shiloh sacrifice. That puts Winners Tithe to RCCG at 1.5 billion x 12months = 18 billion. 18 billion x 10 = 180billion naira annual income. If this is a true reflection of the financial state of Winners Chapel. It means winners chapel is wealthier than Ekiti, Ebonyi and Yobe put together and even wealthier than all south western state except Lagos(only IGR).

It is not unusual though for this kind money to be in one church, the catholic church is wealthier than the top 3 corporations in the world combined with an annual expenditure of $174Billion.

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Re: "Winners Chapel Would Soon Be Paying Tithes Of Trillions" - Bishop Oyedepo by HigherEd: 4:45pm On May 16, 2018
HeyCorleone:

Pope Francis recently auctioned his Lamborghini with 70% of the proceeds to go to a Muslim country. Can your bishop do such? The Catholic church doesn't even place emphasis on tithe, rather it places emphasis on giving to the poor, which is basically what Christ was about in the new testament.
Now believe me Neither Oyedepo nor Adeboye can use all the gifts people shower on them annually. It is not even possible. Much of those gifts are also given out. But there is no need to put the camera on it. Sometime ago Winners shipped loads of relief materials to Sierraleone after the landslides. They could put the camera on it and gain popularity but they did it under the radar. When next the pope wants to give out a lambo he should please not let us know. wink

cyrilamx:
It is not the wealth of entire Catholic Church rather only the expenditure of the Catholic Church in the US exceed $180B annually spend a schools and hospitals far exceed the wealth of Winners, RCCG, Christ Embassy, Synagogue Church of all Nations, combined let alone the entire Catholic Church in the World.
I know baba, infact Catholics have major investments in Gold and all that. But I sense a competitive spirit in you. No need for all that

deathwing:


You just simply outlined how a religious body who is suppose to give to ceasar what is ceasar's should avoid paying lawful tax. If your comment isn't a product of prosperity Gospel taking root to the exclusion of all else, I wonder what is.
I only laid how some churches could avoid(not evade) the tax. And I am not necessarily advocating for Tax avoidance. Plus Oyedepo has said Winners is willing to pay taxes soooo. Though i suspect CAN would have none of it... People like me in govt would also have none of it... When govt calls for tax we would also go and look for money in the belly of the Fish because that is the kind of tax Jesus paid(Belly of Fish Tax) not church income tax grin

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Re: "Winners Chapel Would Soon Be Paying Tithes Of Trillions" - Bishop Oyedepo by TheNazarene: 5:01pm On May 16, 2018
And I will be one of your tithers in billions... grin

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Re: "Winners Chapel Would Soon Be Paying Tithes Of Trillions" - Bishop Oyedepo by CodeTemplar: 5:18pm On May 16, 2018
Wow. That's heavenly economy. This will Let the church haters start clamouring for Religious tax that is targeted at the church alone.

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Re: "Winners Chapel Would Soon Be Paying Tithes Of Trillions" - Bishop Oyedepo by HigherEd: 5:44pm On May 16, 2018
CodeTemplar:
Wow. That's heavenly economy. This will Let the church haters start clamouring for Religious tax that is targeted at the church alone.
Well if they try that, the churches can easily centralise all their income in the US where Churches are exempted by law to pay tax. The foreign income from foreign stations would be diverted to USA and the Church reserves will also relocate to a more friendlier country. That I believe can hurt the Nigerian economy...(I tell you, if winners moves her reserves away from Nigeria at once, the bank holding the money will feel it)

They can lay hands on the offerings from Nigeria, but churches could make it harder for them by convincing members to pay online and route it to foreign accounts.

Now All that is assuming Govt can pass the legislation. But the rate at which Pentecostalism is growing and gaining representation in Govt. It would only become harder as the years goes by.

But then sef Winners pays taxes in other countries so no shaking. And Oyedepo has said the church is willing to pay taxes in Nigeria as long as the Muslims(Mosques) are included. Although he still makes a good point that canaanland provides its own water, electricity, road, schools, security etc so what is govt taxing them for exactly, especially since members already paid tax of the income they are tithing...

Personally I would forever stand against TAXATION of churches, the Anglicans, Ecwas, Baptist, Methodist are not as funded as the LFC, Christ embassy of this world. In the event of taxation it is the Orthodox they would catch, much of the Pentecostals can easily avoid because of their foreign stations.

What govt should focus on is to collaborate with the churches so as to maximally gain from them. Create Joint schools with the church, joint hospitals with the church, joint rehabs, joint orphanages etc and look for ways religious tourism could benefit businesses. If Nigeria is of religious value then exploit it rather than bickering. The likes of Isreal, Saudi are making billions of dollars from the religious value of their countries.Nigeria should focus on this rather than focus on attacking them because it won't work.

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Re: "Winners Chapel Would Soon Be Paying Tithes Of Trillions" - Bishop Oyedepo by soberdrunk(m): 6:41pm On May 16, 2018
Hahahahahahahahahahaahahahahaha!!! cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy My happiness is although a lot of bad adjectives can be used to describe me, "gullible" isn't one of them.......... angry

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Re: "Winners Chapel Would Soon Be Paying Tithes Of Trillions" - Bishop Oyedepo by Promismike(m): 6:42pm On May 16, 2018
Amiiii

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Re: "Winners Chapel Would Soon Be Paying Tithes Of Trillions" - Bishop Oyedepo by san316(m): 6:42pm On May 16, 2018
Cash flow projection

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Re: "Winners Chapel Would Soon Be Paying Tithes Of Trillions" - Bishop Oyedepo by Nobody: 6:42pm On May 16, 2018
Operation: Tithe Trillions
Level: 1
Objectives:...

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Re: "Winners Chapel Would Soon Be Paying Tithes Of Trillions" - Bishop Oyedepo by Darkseid(m): 6:42pm On May 16, 2018
Church A pays 1 billion naira tithe to church B, church B in turn pays 1 billion to church A. Who they wan deceive abeg undecided

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Re: "Winners Chapel Would Soon Be Paying Tithes Of Trillions" - Bishop Oyedepo by Spuggie: 6:42pm On May 16, 2018
Very interesting I must say

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Re: "Winners Chapel Would Soon Be Paying Tithes Of Trillions" - Bishop Oyedepo by Dongreat(m): 6:43pm On May 16, 2018
Christianity or religion at large is a man made practice used to try to explain the unexplainable when science and technology was lacking in the old days. Religion as at now is nothing but a powerful placebo that sells to you nothing but mindful hope but cash out in real currency.

Do you know that the holy bible was created by Emperor Constantine and the bishops at the “council of nicea”? At the meeting the “gnostics”, a Christian set were exempted and their books not included in the bible because they find it not fitting and controversial for the public. Are you aware that 80% of the New Testament is based on Paul’s letters to the church and not some Holy Spirit filling documentations?

Nigerian Christianity is solely based on money worshipping and that’s why offerings and tithes are prioritised instead of salvation, making one think salvation is costly and the Jehovah (if he exist) is an Italian Don who can be bought with first fruits, seed sowing, and 10% our of our income

I am certainly not against religion because it’s an acceptable placebo, else the chaos would have been unbearable knowing that there’s no afterlife comprising of a golden heaven with mansions and 70 virgins if I live good, and a fiery hell filled with the stench of sulphur.

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Re: "Winners Chapel Would Soon Be Paying Tithes Of Trillions" - Bishop Oyedepo by Yinxies(f): 6:43pm On May 16, 2018
Am waiting for the Nigerian Oyinbo to air his views on the ongoing

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Re: "Winners Chapel Would Soon Be Paying Tithes Of Trillions" - Bishop Oyedepo by Nobody: 6:43pm On May 16, 2018
Thief

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Re: "Winners Chapel Would Soon Be Paying Tithes Of Trillions" - Bishop Oyedepo by MrOwonikoko: 6:43pm On May 16, 2018
Op and pastor Oye... This is for u!

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Re: "Winners Chapel Would Soon Be Paying Tithes Of Trillions" - Bishop Oyedepo by omotuntun: 6:44pm On May 16, 2018
Wondering how many people legitimately earn such amount to pay such...

This is so sad. Sometimes when I am in my church every time here, they give reference to the Bible and teach to the extend that you will feel it in your heart that you are in good communication with God, they never preach on tithes and offerings.

They make everything so open that you give according to your heart, no one tell you things will be tight for you if you don't pay. Sometimes I ask myself if what we practice back home is even Christianity.

So sad really sad.

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Re: "Winners Chapel Would Soon Be Paying Tithes Of Trillions" - Bishop Oyedepo by sanandreas(m): 6:44pm On May 16, 2018
God is pleased with our prosperity.

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Re: "Winners Chapel Would Soon Be Paying Tithes Of Trillions" - Bishop Oyedepo by seguno2: 6:44pm On May 16, 2018
HigherEd:
And I can attest that in January of 2011 Winners Chapel paid 1.5 Billion naira in Tithe to RCCG for the month. Assuming the size of the January Tithe was not a surge due to Shiloh sacrifice. That puts Winners Tithe to RCCG at 1.5 billion x 12months = 18 billion. 18 billion x 10 = 180billion naira annual income. If this is a true reflection of the financial state of Winners Chapel. It means winners chapel is wealthier than Ekiti, Ebonyi and Yobe put together and even wealthier than all south western state except Lagos(only IGR).

It is not unusual though for this kind money to be in one church, the catholic church is wealthier than the top 3 corporations in the world combined with an annual expenditure of $174Billion.

How many primary and secondary schools are built and run by the Catholic Church?
How many by Winners?
Relative to their wealth

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Re: "Winners Chapel Would Soon Be Paying Tithes Of Trillions" - Bishop Oyedepo by udi4eva(m): 6:44pm On May 16, 2018
Well done
Re: "Winners Chapel Would Soon Be Paying Tithes Of Trillions" - Bishop Oyedepo by nairavsdollars(f): 6:44pm On May 16, 2018
And who does the tithe go to? Ogun visit you if you say 'GOD

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Re: "Winners Chapel Would Soon Be Paying Tithes Of Trillions" - Bishop Oyedepo by Canadamigrate: 6:45pm On May 16, 2018
Darkseid:
Church A pays 1 billion naira tithe to church B, church B in turn pays 1 billion to church A. Who they wan deceive abeg undecided

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Re: "Winners Chapel Would Soon Be Paying Tithes Of Trillions" - Bishop Oyedepo by Jamiubond009(m): 6:45pm On May 16, 2018
Religion itself is a hoax and a hustle, from a historical perspective. Look at how all modern religions were "adapted" from the pagan religions. Then observe the importance of tithe and organisation from all of them. It's not the message that matters - it's just being there. Think of how few could read and write. Then think of how the intelligent, conscious brain naturally wonders about origin. Then add in those guys who can write to give pseudo-structure to those origin questions and voila, you have a control device. It's all a formula.

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Re: "Winners Chapel Would Soon Be Paying Tithes Of Trillions" - Bishop Oyedepo by deathwing(m): 6:45pm On May 16, 2018
HigherEd:

Well if they try that, the churches can easily centralise all their income in the US where Churches are exempted by law to pay tax. The foreign income from foreign stations would be diverted to USA and the Church reserves will also relocate to a more friendlier country. That I believe can hurt the Nigerian economy...(I tell you, if winners moves her reserves away from Nigeria at once, the bank holding the money will feel it)

They can lay hands on the offerings from Nigeria, but churches could make it harder for them by convincing members to pay online and route it to foreign accounts.

But then sef Winners pays taxes in other countries so no shaking. And Oyedepo has said the church is willing to pay taxes in Nigeria as long as the Muslims(Mosques) are included. Although he still makes a good point that canaanland provides its own water, electricity, road, schools, security etc so what is govt taxing them for exactly, especially since members already paid tax of the income they are tithing...

Personally I would forever stand against taxation of churches, the Anglicans, Ecwas, Baptist, Methodist are not as funded as the LFC, Christ embassy of this world. In the event of taxation it is the Orthodox they would catch, much of the Pentecostals can easily evade because of their foreign stations.


You just simply outlined how a religious body who is suppose to give to ceasar what is ceasar's should avoid paying lawful tax. If your comment isn't a product of prosperity Gospel taking root to the exclusion of all else, I wonder what is.

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Re: "Winners Chapel Would Soon Be Paying Tithes Of Trillions" - Bishop Oyedepo by mosho2good: 6:45pm On May 16, 2018
THE BURNT MATTRESS AND THE CONSPIRACY OF SILENCE!

My neighbour is a hard working, low income person who works as a clerk in a court while driving his car as taxi in the evenings to earn extra income.

His wife is a petty trader who is not doing too badly but loves to put pressure on the man! She always believed she belonged to a "higher" class than their level of living. Always demanding things that are not needed.

Anyway, one day she fell seriously ill and had to be operated upon after already spending two weeks on admission in the hospital.

The poor husband had spent over N300,000 before the need for operation came up. Now he had to cough out another N84,000! He had nothing, he ran from pillar to post. His wife was dying, he was confused!!

After a delay of two days without being able to raise money, he decided to use his car as a collateral to get loan for his wife's operation. As he was preparing to leave his room, his car keys fell underneath the bed. While trying to search for it, he noticed a bulge at the bottom part of the mattress. On searching it, he discovered N250,000 carefully hidden INSIDE the mattress!!!!

So his wife had money at home all this while that he was running helter skelter! The woman didn't even pity herself! Chei!!

Anyway, the man carefully removed the money; paid the outstanding hospital bill (N84,000) without telling his wife the source of the money!!!

Then, he used N32,000 to purchase a new mattress and burnt the old mattress in the room.

He then prepared 4 different pots of soup and stored them in the fridge awaiting his wife's return home. He pocketed the balance jejely!

A week later the woman was discharged after a successful operation. When she got home, she immediately noticed the new mattress on their bed.

On asking about the old mattress, the man explained to her that there were a lot of insects disturbing the old mattress so he burnt it and bought a new one!

Even his children confirmed that they even helped their father burn the mattress.

It has been over 6 weeks and the women is still crying whenever you see her! Ask her what is causing her tears, she will say "the place they did the operation is still paining her".

The husband too has kept quiet since! Abi, if na you wetin you go do?

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Re: "Winners Chapel Would Soon Be Paying Tithes Of Trillions" - Bishop Oyedepo by SalamRushdie: 6:45pm On May 16, 2018
Paying tithe to who exactly

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Re: "Winners Chapel Would Soon Be Paying Tithes Of Trillions" - Bishop Oyedepo by pastoradebola: 6:46pm On May 16, 2018
The law of tithing will always put us in command...we will get there

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Re: "Winners Chapel Would Soon Be Paying Tithes Of Trillions" - Bishop Oyedepo by OfficialRasheed: 6:46pm On May 16, 2018
I weep for all the Igbos enriching these Yoruba pastors.

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Re: "Winners Chapel Would Soon Be Paying Tithes Of Trillions" - Bishop Oyedepo by obaataaokpaewu: 6:46pm On May 16, 2018
I die wake
Re: "Winners Chapel Would Soon Be Paying Tithes Of Trillions" - Bishop Oyedepo by samyyoung1(m): 6:46pm On May 16, 2018
Av never liked him, his ministry or his words

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Re: "Winners Chapel Would Soon Be Paying Tithes Of Trillions" - Bishop Oyedepo by HigherEd: 6:47pm On May 16, 2018
seguno2:


How many primary and secondary schools are built and run by the Catholic Church?
How many by Winners?
Relative to their wealth
But winners is not as wealthy as catholic so why the comparison. And ERM winners has about 200 primary and sec schools....

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Re: "Winners Chapel Would Soon Be Paying Tithes Of Trillions" - Bishop Oyedepo by seguno2: 6:47pm On May 16, 2018
omotuntun:
Wondering how many people legitimately earn such amount to pay such...

Good question.
The money for our education, electricity, roads, railways are there.

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