mazimee:



The bolded is the key word . Moses has been exhibiting this attitude even when there was no FA Cup final in the picture that he could have played . If not for picture evidence of his team mates from Chelsea training with their respective countries, some of us will find no fault in justifying what he is doing.

He did this in the last friendly with Poland and Serbia. Chelsea played a match on Sunday with Leicester City, the Next day, Iheanacho and Ndidi made themselves available in the camp.But Moses made sure he was the last player to arrive at the camp. Moses has a serious attitude problem that he only exhibit when he is on international duty. At Chelsea he stays humble, but in Nigeria he acts like the team revolves around him.

Seriously, it is becoming too much. Do you think that Nigeria Football fans are not seeing this attitude of his? Ofcourse, most people are annoyed with him and this is breeding comtempt . Go to Brilla Facebook page and See their reaction when it was first reported that he was yet to arrive at the camp.

In the long run, If his attitude is not curtailed now, it will affect the dressing room and bring disconnection between the players and jeopardized the team connection/spirit that they worked hard to build.

I over like your comment Chief.

krattoss:
y all don't get one thing, was there in a way a tussle for the free kick or set pieces when Moses sets in? Don't u think if it's not the coach that orchesterd that order, he would have been challenged from taking the setpieces...c.ronaldo takes almost everything free kick and no man dares cough..

Why all these rants about our best weapon of mass destruction?
The nigga is a strong head no doubt but it's part of the managers job.. To manage strong heads which Rohr is doing perfectly well.. Why fuelling Rohr to start an unending brawl in the team that disorganized the team in the past and made his predecessors fail like pack of cards.

Rantings is a norm in life so people are free to rant. It's a free world.. But only the intellectually inclined ones will try and find out the reason what happened happened..

Ever heard of vic Moses escapades in Nigeria? How his parents were massacred in a crisis in Nigeria?
Don't u think these kinds of scenarios might make him wanna rethink bout his loyalty to Nigeria which he has benefited nothing much..??

That aside, things happen for reasons. Moses won't jettison out of the team Mundial preparations without a concrete excuse.
Most importantly, we re just fans and our opinions don't matter much, the coach and his crew is their to handle the matter which they re been paid for. Let's leave them to do their job and lets support them on whatever decision they take because we can really do nothing much.. And hope it pays

Thank you.There is need for us to up our analysis here cos this thread is just too valuable to a lot of guys cos they believe this is the only place to get accurate information and good analysis on eagles.

I was damn surprised hearing from this thread that the presence of Aina's Father can influence Rohr.No this shouldn't have come out from this thread

Also hearing that Kelechi Nwakili should be drafted to main eagles cos of his performance against Atletico Madrid.

No it's not done that way.I remember James Obiorah had a great game in one of the friendly prior to France 98 but dropped cos we have better prepared players like Okocha,Lawal,Adepoju and Oruma but if we go by talent i will rate only Jayjay ahead of Obiorah.

No doubt about Nwakili abilities as a player but sometimes a good promising young player just need to wait and keep.on developing.The future is bright for the young man.

And now reading some comments on Moses really surprised me as if this is not the thread where we have great analysts who understand the game very well.

Did Rohr complain about Moses attitudes?No meaning there is great communication between Rohr and Moses and with what am hearing likely Moses would join the team in London with Rohr approval.

World cup is very near and better for us to talk football in a very analytical way.

krattoss:
I know.
What am tryna pass is that these things won't happen without the coaches go ahead order..

By the way in that same match we had big Boyz like Musa, Onazi, Ighalo, and Co..

Onazi, Musa and Ighalo are not laying claim to take set-pieces. The players laying claim to that role are younger than V.Moses.

I think responsibility can be shared since Moses is not obviously better in taking freekicks.

tbaba1234:


Ronaldo has scored several free kicks so his own is understandable. Victor has not proven to be better than Iheanacho or Simon Moses as regards free kicks.

I feel like the coach should allow for shared responsibility, depending on the area of the field.

Right now we don't have specialist but your last paragraph settled it.

krattoss:
that means u will fail woefully as a coach.. U know why they call man Management?

If u can't handle ur big players,that means u won't handle big teams. You just made made me remember how oliseh rushed to the media to spew how MIKEL didn't pick his call when he came to London.. I mean that was so uncalled for and childish to be having quarells with ur big goons.

Rohr has stated himself that vic Moses is his most important player in the team, and u re here telling us why u hate Moses...

Hate it or love it vic Moses is the most important when it comes to the super Eagles team

VicMo is the most important player. Yeah we know, but you know why I love the world cup That is where coaches and players international careers are retired and made, let Moses continue with his one man army plays and Nigeria loses a game due to that, na that day you go know say Coach Rohr na employee. When the fans and media start ehn, na then you go know say Oyinbo man no get any yeye important player.

tbaba1234:


Onazi, Musa and Ighalo are not laying claim to take set-pieces. The players laying claim to that role are younger than V.Moses.

I think responsibility can be shared since Moses is not obviously better in taking freekicks.

Imagine mentioning Musa and Onazi when we are discussing set - peices, as if the role is given like captaincy to older boys.

sontoly:
If am rohr mosses will be starting from bench cos he will break the team spirit, it was obvious that the game against Poland he was playing a one man game, we should all say the truth here.

I dunno if Rohr demands the best from him and he translates that to bring selfish cos Rohr has not given any statement that he doesn't want that, but he has given statement about Iwobi's holding to the ball and dribbling instead of being a team player. That's shocking cos VicMo does it at crucial stages on the pitch. I just hope we see his team player side. The Eme-Eye (Emenike-Ideye) Partnership is still the best I've seen in the super Eagles in a long while. It's the yardstick.

I love the Kazan stadium the most.
Then the Olympics Stadium follows. That of Spartak Moscow Follows. Art sense is powerful.


Off point. Ghana President embarrassed The French President with shocking speech to free francophone countries from dependence on them. That man and the Rwanda Presido are just too smart. No asslicking.

Hi guys, let's talk about our past world cup performances. I know we'll all agree that 1994 was our best outing, however which one do y'all think is our worst? for me I think it's 2010, we had all our important players from Martins to Osaze, Yak, kanu, Obasi, Yobo etc the only noticeable absentee was Mikel yet we struggled to gain just 1 point despite being in a relatively easy group. So let's have our say on Nigeria's worst World Cup outing

I can't believe that tshabalhala's goal celebration is what most foreign football fans consider as the best of all the Africa's Goal celebrations they loved to watch over and over again ahead of Gyan's own. Nigeria no even dey top 10....


Let these guys form a dance that's different from shaku or sekem, or whatever that is rhythmical and easy but exhilarating to watch over and over. Oh someone wants to say we have better things to focus on? that's typical naija mentality o. where has it gotten us?


Let them come up with something. Let's also spark a memorable goal moment at this world cup. Have we had any that beats Yekini's own till date? wow!!. Even my heart still skips at that celebration.

Let's present the fun side of us.

The running to a corner flag and then knee to face heaven, onrushing teammates hoping on the goalscorer, is old fashioned. Give the fans something to remember from goals. Just like the late Yekini did.

Kog45:
Thank you.There is need for us to up our analysis here cos this thread is just too valuable to a lot of guys cos they believe this is the only place to get accurate information and good analysis on eagles.

I was damn surprised hearing from this thread that the presence of Aina's Father can influence Rohr.No this shouldn't have come out from this thread

Also hearing that Kelechi Nwakili should be drafted to main eagles cos of his performance against Atletico Madrid.

No it's not done that way.I remember James Obiorah had a great game in one of the friendly prior to France 98 but dropped cos we have better prepared players like Okocha,Lawal,Adepoju and Oruma but if we go by talent i will rate only Jayjay ahead of Obiorah.

No doubt about Nwakili abilities as a player but sometimes a good promising young player just need to wait and keep.on developing.The future is bright for the young man.

And now reading some comments on Moses really surprised me as if this is not the thread where we have great analysts who understand the game very well.

Did Rohr complain about Moses attitudes?No meaning there is great communication between Rohr and Moses and with what am hearing likely Moses would join the team in London with Rohr approval.

World cup is very near and better for us to talk football in a very analytical way.

Oh God bless you sir.

Good we have people like you that always have balanced opinion here.

I saw that comment about Aina's father being involved in Aina's selection. I just ignored because I know it is a baseless point.

Those same people that are clamoring for Kelechi Nwakali today would still be the first to jump and call him a flop tomorrow.

I see no issues in Rohr giving Moses the break as long as they are both in agreement.

daveP:
I can't believe that tshabalhala's goal celebration is what most foreign football fans consider as the best of all the Africa's Goal celebrations they loved to watch over and over again ahead of Gyan's own. Nigeria no even dey top 10....


Let these guys form a dance that's different from shaku or sekem, or whatever that is rhythmical and easy but exhilarating to watch over and over. Oh someone wants to say we have better things to focus on? that's typical naija mentality o. where has it gotten us?


Let them come up with something. Let's also spark a memorable goal moment at this world cup. Have we had any that beats Yekini's own till date? wow!!. Even my heart still skips at that celebration.

Lol et's present the fun side of us.

The running to a corner flag and then knee to face heaven, onrushing teammates hoping on the goalscorer, is old fashioned. Give the fans something to remember from goals. Just like the late Yekini did.

We don't need any dance abeg. Na Ghana players like to dey do all those.

My own all time favorite celebrations were those of Rodger Miller and Cameroon at Italia '90. Most of those fans that voted are the younger generation. Them no go see that one.

krattoss:
y all don't get one thing, was there in a way a tussle for the free kick or set pieces when Moses sets in? Don't u think if it's not the coach that orchesterd that order, he would have been challenged from taking the setpieces...c.ronaldo takes almost everything free kick and no man dares cough..

Why all these rants about our best weapon of mass destruction?
The nigga is a strong head no doubt but it's part of the managers job.. To manage strong heads which Rohr is doing perfectly well.. Why fuelling Rohr to start an unending brawl in the team that disorganized the team in the past and made his predecessors fail like pack of cards.

Rantings is a norm in life so people are free to rant. It's a free world.. But only the intellectually inclined ones will try and find out the reason what happened happened..

Ever heard of vic Moses escapades in Nigeria? How his parents were massacred in a crisis in Nigeria?
Don't u think these kinds of scenarios might make him wanna rethink bout his loyalty to Nigeria which he has benefited nothing much..??

That aside, things happen for reasons. Moses won't jettison out of the team Mundial preparations without a concrete excuse.
Most importantly, we re just fans and our opinions don't matter much, the coach and his crew is their to handle the matter which they re been paid for. Let's leave them to do their job and lets support them on whatever decision they take because we can really do nothing much.. And hope it pays

and still.hasn't registered a goal since he has been playing free kicks....
that was a stupid decision from the coach....

Icon4s:


Oh God bless you sir.

Good we have people like you that always have balanced opinion here.

I saw that comment about Aina's father being involved in Aina's selection. I just ignored because I know it is a baseless point.

Those same people that are clamoring for Kelechi Nwakali today would still be the first to jump and call him a flop tomorrow.

I see no issues in Rohr giving Moses the break as long as they are both in agreement.

I agree with you...guys.
my only issue is that set piece thing.
he can't come in and be wasting our free kicks.... let rohr try them out and pick the best for that role....I stil believe kelechi and Simon Moses does better with free kicks

Humility017:

and still.hasn't registered a goal since he has been playing free kicks....
that was a stupid decision from the coach....

But he has scored from penalty against Poland, assisted with a corner kick against cameroun, and also scored a free kick which was ruled offside against same cameroun.
As for the bolded, I hope u won't count my fvckup if I should call ur comments, decision and opinions stupid?

forgiveness:



Can you pls throw more light about the consciousness of blackman race.

Na book you want make I write be that.
But let me give you a clue:from Africa to the black communities in America to the Carribean and the Americas blacks are the poorest, beat down race, despised, looked down upon and occupy the runt of history. Why is this so? Compare the black race to other races and you'd begin to realise there's something deeply wrong about the black race. I do not think it has to do with the color of his skin, nor with his geographical location. I feel the problem lies in the race consciousness. You cannot cheat consciousness. Your reality is the physical mirror of your inner consciousness.

Historians say we were once a proud and noble race setting the pace in science, medicine and technology. But something happened and ever since then we've gone down.
Watch youtube videos of Professor John Henry Clarke and download Blackman of the Nile and his family by Professor Yousef Ben Yochanan

krattoss:

But he has scored from penalty against Poland, assisted with a corner kick against cameroun, and also scored a free kick which was ruled offside against same cameroun.

Penalty?? Really??

S. Moses and Iheanacho have actually scored from direct freekicks.

Depending on who is on the field, responsibilities can be shared.

tbaba1234:


Penalty?? Really??

S. Moses and Iheanacho have actually scored from direct freekicks.

Depending on who is on the field, responsibilities can be shared.

kindly forward ur complains to Mr Rohr pleass

ChrisKels:
Thank you very much for that observation. That is not the only problem I notice with him. There is a certain arrogance creeping into him. The way he treats the younger players of the team calls for concern: His treatment of Iheanacho during the friendly match is one. Second is his treatment of Ndidi after Iwobi scored the goal against Zambia. Ndidi went to shake him but he just kept his hands on his dreadlocks and greeted the boy complacently with one hand. Its insulting. Moses should watch it, he is fast becoming full of himself.


Pascal

Maybe you are reading wrong body language, some people appear to be arrogant but maybe social akward.

tbaba1234:
One area, we need to work on is set-pieces. V. Moses, Iheanacho and even Simon Moses can share responsibility. V.Mose should not be allowed to hoard all the set plays. Some set-pieces favor a left footer, Iheanacho should be allowed to take those.

We also have to try to be more dangerous of setplays. Balogun, Ekong, Ndidi and all the tall men need to get on the end of corners and other indorect freekicks.

Moses is not hoarding the setpeiece, the question should be when last did iheanacho and moses play thesame time, i can only remember the Poland game and we got 3 freekicks, moses played one, iheanacho played one and ekong tried one too

Moses corner and indirect freekicks are always dangerous and should continue

tbaba1234:


Ronaldo has scored several free kicks so his own is understandable. Victor has not proven to be better than Iheanacho or Simon Moses as regards free kicks.

I feel like the coach should allow for shared responsibility, depending on the area of the field.

They do share them, but the responsibility is on moses to assign them on the pitch

daveP:
I can't believe that tshabalhala's goal celebration is what most foreign football fans consider as the best of all the Africa's Goal celebrations they loved to watch over and over again ahead of Gyan's own. Nigeria no even dey top 10....


Let these guys form a dance that's different from shaku or sekem, or whatever that is rhythmical and easy but exhilarating to watch over and over. Oh someone wants to say we have better things to focus on? that's typical naija mentality o. where has it gotten us?


Let them come up with something. Let's also spark a memorable goal moment at this world cup. Have we had any that beats Yekini's own till date? wow!!. Even my heart still skips at that celebration.

Lol et's present the fun side of us.

The running to a corner flag and then knee to face heaven, onrushing teammates hoping on the goalscorer, is old fashioned. Give the fans something to remember from goals. Just like the late Yekini did.

Yekini goal celebration in 94 is iconic, even FIFA can never forget, reason they remember and celebrate the guy every year

Joebie:
Well done Hughton – This 29-year-old addition could truly solidify Brighton’s backline

by Rohan Sengupta



According to reports, Brighton and Hove Albion have completed the signing of Nigeria international defender Leon Balogun on a free transfer.

Balogun, 29, left Bundesliga side Mainz at the end of the season and has signed a two-year deal with Chris Hughton’s side.

Brighton finished 15th in the league this season after winning promotion from the Championship. Hughton made some shrewd signings last summer, most notably Pascal Gross from Ingolstadt and the club did a good job to stay in the top-flight.

Gross scored 7 goals and provided 8 assists in the league and was named the club’s Player of the Season. Going by Gross’ telling impact in his debut season in England, a lot could be expected from former Mainz defender Leon Balogun as well.

Balogun has represented Nigeria 14 times and was named in manager Gernot Rohr’s provisional 30-man squad for next month’s World Cup. The Berlin-born defender has plenty of experience in the Bundesliga, having also represented Hannover and Werder Bremen among other clubs.

To start with, Balogun is a ball-playing centre-back and with his range of style and good positional sense, he would massively strengthen Brighton’s defence.

Although he is comfortable on the ball, the 29-year-old likes to keep things simple with tidy and crisp short passing. Balogun often acted as the player to build up attacks from the back at Mainz.

A rock at the back for Mainz, Balogun had established himself as one of the reliable centre-backs in the Bundesliga. In a couple of years, he has developed into Nigeria’s best centre-back. At 29, he still has a lot to give to Brighton.

Having spent a lot of time in the Bundesliga, the experience Balogun would bring to the Seagulls side should be measured in gold.

Lewis Dunk and Shane Duffy established a formidable centre-back pairing for Brighton in the recently concluded season.

The way Dunk and Duffy worked in defence proved difficult for some teams to breach. Arsenal and Manchester United were a couple of teams to come back home without a single point from their visit to Brighton.

This speaks volumes about Brighton’s defensive shape and rigidity under Hughton. He has built an excellent Brighton team, keeping the defence as his cornerstone. While his midfield and attack have been good, the way the Seagulls have shown defensive resoluteness the entire season is commendable.

With a good defence already in place, Balogun would add more depth and solidity to it. The 29-year-old is playing at the peak of his powers and without any doubt, Balogun is an excellent signing for Brighton.

--SoccerSouls

thanks for the colour. It makes it more easier now.

Icon4s:


Oh God bless you sir.

Good we have people like you that always have balanced opinion here.

[b]I saw that comment about Aina's father being involved in Aina's selection.[b/] I just ignored because I know it is a baseless point.

Those same people that are clamoring for Kelechi Nwakali today would still be the first to jump and call him a flop tomorrow.

I see no issues in Rohr giving Moses the break as long as they are both in agreement.

Nobody said Aina father is involved in Aina selection, the talk was how other players dropped and fans may perceive it.

If we can't make diverse views and remarks about the team then of what essense is the thread?

Please note all those monikers that are bent on indulging moses' irresponsible conduct and indiscipline. Make una no complain at the world cup when your supposed weapon of mass destruction hoards all balls to seek personal glory at the expense of the team.

Wrong doings need to be corrected in strongest possible terms. I cant recall any international match that Naija played where moses arrived early. Its always one excuse after the other. He even went as far as choosing games he plays. Abeg dem dey get injury for inside aircraft? At least show solidarity with your comrades. This subtle thing if left unchecked is the reason for bad blood and poor performances in teams. Equality is important in discipline.

I have said this times without number for those who have read my posts. He (Moses) needs to learn teamwork. I dont buy that bull crap of he doesnt socialize because as quiet as he is, he socializes with his Chelsea team mates. I saw his vid after the FA cup, you would wonder if its the same Moses.

You guys are singing his praises now. He had betta come good at the world cup. When he starts playing his solo stuff, make una no complain O! Weapon of mass destruction my foot!

tbaba1234:


Onazi, Musa and Ighalo are not laying claim to take set-pieces. The players laying claim to that role are younger than V.Moses.

I think responsibility can be shared since Moses is not obviously better in taking freekicks.

sharing free kicks responsibilities is the way forward.
Victor Moses should be saddled with the responsibility of taking set-pieces that falls on the left side of the pitch.
Kelechi should take those that falls to the right side. While John Obi Mikel takes anyone from the deep.

TThis way we will have a better chance of scoring them as we will be maximizing the kickers strengths.

Its funny how you guys are taking panadol on top rohrs headache, it's unfair when we don't actually know what must have transpired between the coach and victor for him to have been given time off.

kennysville:
Please note all those monikers that are bent on indulging moses' irresponsible conduct and indiscipline. Make una no complain at the world cup when your supposed weapon of mass destruction hoards all balls to seek personal glory at the expense of the team.

Wrong doings need to be corrected in strongest possible terms. I cant recall any international match that Naija played where moses arrived early. Its always one excuse after the other. He even went as far as choosing games he plays. Abeg dem dey get injury for inside aircraft? At least show solidarity with your comrades. This subtle thing if left unchecked is the reason for bad blood and poor performances in teams. Equality is important in discipline.

I have said this times without number for those who have read my posts. He (Moses) needs to learn teamwork. I dont buy that bull crap of he doesnt socialize because as quiet as he is, he socializes with his Chelsea team mates. I saw his vid after the FA cup, you would wonder if its the same Moses.

You guys are singing his praises now. He had betta come good at the world cup. When he starts playing his solo stuff, make una no complain O! Weapon of mass destruction my foot!

One of the most iconic moment in worldcup was scored by Diego maradona and it was a solo effort, every team need such player sometimes

Humility017:

and still.hasn't registered a goal since he has been playing free kicks....
that was a stupid decision from the coach....

Humility baba do we really have a free kicks specialist? NO

I remember seeing Iheanacho and Moses Simeon scoring once and Victor scoring a disallowed one against Cameroon,so they are all fluke takers,may be the coming friendlies and WC we are going to see the specialist cos i remember Jayjay always kick it to the crowd until later stage of his career.

Martz101:


Maybe you are reading wrong body language, some people appear to be arrogant but maybe social akward.

Wrong body language abi? Lemme tell you the blatant truth. As much as you have the right to air ur views inocuously, others also have the right to interpret it. And trust me, body language is the one that gets highly misinterpreted. Yoruba ppl will say ará ilé ló mòó l'ámòdì, Wèrè ni ará ìta máa pèé (meaning its only members of ur houshold that will try make excuse for ur misdeeds, people on the outside will call it madness).

How did Yekini get phased out of the National team? Story for another day.

Let him continue his solo life. But consider yourself marked. If I hear you say peem during the world cup about his misdeeds, na there me and you go start....

Martz101:


One of the most iconic moment in worldcup was scored by Diego maradona and it was a solo effort, every team need such player sometimes

I hear you chief..... will you be able to determine when solo runs are desirable? Moses I know will neva even pass to someone in a beta position to score 9 times out of 10. And frankly, unless this changes, I hope this wont cost us in the world cup

krattoss:
that means u will fail woefully as a coach.. U know why they call man Management?

If u can't handle ur big players,that means u won't handle big teams. You just made made me remember how oliseh rushed to the media to spew how MIKEL didn't pick his call when he came to London.. I mean that was so uncalled for and childish to be having quarells with ur big goons.

Rohr has stated himself that vic Moses is his most important player in the team, and u re here telling us why u hate Moses...

Hate it or love it vic Moses is the most important when it comes to the super Eagles team

Football is a team sport. Moses is not CR7 or Messi, so he's not a determinant of a coach's success.

So, as a manager you'll condone indiscipline?

Wanting him discipline doesn't mean we hate the guy. We are just stating the obvious. If he reports early to camp as an 'important' player, will it take anything from him? Hasn't the coach also stated that Iheanachio is important to him?