A LADY DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A FEMINIST FOR SHE TO BE INDEPENDENT.

Hello Y'all.
Recently I saw a thread ,when I opened the thread I saw some people saying :Nigerian men hate feminists but they forget the good things they crave for comes with feminism ".

Now let's talk about the ignorance some people have on that matter. A woman doesn't have to be be a feminist before she can be independent. Independence is something every sensible woman is suppose to crave for.

Feminism is all about equal opportunities for both genders not financial independence. The founders of the feminism ideology didn't include financial independence in their cause" .Financial independence for ladies is another topic entirely on it's own.

Feminism is the advocacy of women's rights on the ground of the equality of the sexes.

Feminist movements have campaigned and continue to campaign for women's rights, including the right to vote, to hold public office, to work, to earn fair wages or equal pay, to own property, to receive education, to enter contracts, to have equal rights within marriage, and to have maternity leave. Feminists have also worked to ensure access to legal abortions and social integration, and to protect women and girls from rape, sexual harassment, and domestic violence and not independence because that's a different topic on it's own.



So a man can hate feminism and still want an independent wife.

about 75% of the American female population are independent.. who's gonna tell me they're all feminists?
The number of feminists among them aren't more than 15% even if more people support the ideology because there's difference between someone who's supporting something and someone who's practising the thing.


Y'all should stop spilling your ignorance everywhere okay.
Men can hate feminism and still crave for Independent ladies because financial independence has nothing to do with feminism.

Rukkydelta I hope you're reading this because you were one of the people who made that ignorant remark.

True words from an elder

Elder001:
A LADY DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A FEMINIST FOR SHE TO BE INDEPENDENT.

financial independence has nothing to do with feminism.

Op,You're so on point

Read your books and do enough research very well before creating stupid threads and including feminism in them ,when you don't even have adequate knowledge on the ideology.

Boland hope you're also reading this.

This is like saying that a bird doesn't have to be a duck in order to quack. You want it to quack but it shouldn't waddle. It shouldn't be a duck. Okay . Even if the bird doesn't call itself a duck (because someone tries to convince it that it isn't one), if it quacks like duck............

What you are only trying to do is suppress its knowledge of itself, so that you can harvest the advantages to yourself without dealing with the parts that aren't so savory to you. Shame!

Feminism is a range of ideologies, political movements, and social movements that share a common goal: to define, establish, and achieve political, economic, personal, and social equality of the sexes. Before you claim that financial independence isn't part of the feminist agenda, you should enlighten yourself on the matter of economic empowerment.

LadyMarionette:
This is like saying that a bird doesn't have to be a duck in order to quack. You want it to quack but it shouldn't waddle. It shouldn't be a duck. Okay . Even if the bird doesn't call itself a duck (because someone tries to convince it that it isn't one), if it quacks like duck............

What you are only trying to do is suppress its knowledge of itself, so that you can harvest the advantages to yourself without dealing with the parts that aren't so savory to you. Shame!

Feminism is a range of ideologies, political movements, and social movements that share a common goal: to define, establish, and achieve political, economic, personal, and social equality of the sexes. Before you claim that financial independence isn't part of the feminist agenda, you should enlighten yourself on the matter of economic empowerment.

Financial independence for ladies is another topic entirely on it's own..

Saying a man hates feminism but want to marry an independent lady so he's an hypocrite is ignorance of the highest order.

about or more than 75% of the American female population are independent.. only 15% or less are feminists.

You don't have to be a feminist before you can be independent so men can hate feminists and still crave for independent ladies.

this table you are shaking.

Elder001:


Financial independence for ladies is another topic entirely on it's own..

Saying a man hates feminism but want to marry an independent lady so he's an hypocrite is ignorance of the highest order.

about or more than 75% of the American female population are independent.. only 15% or less are feminists.

You don't have to be a feminist before you can be independent so men can hate feminists and still crave for independent ladies.

Yes. I worked on that analogy. To correspond to your figures (not corroborating because I haven't checked them out yet): 75% of the American female population are birds that quack......only 15% or less are ducks. This is of course assuming that the only birds that quack are ducks.

This would lead me to another argument: is subjective consciousness a rudiment of feminism? Must a person define him/herself as one to be one; or can the flowers in bloom define the tree?

As a topic, anyone who advocates financial independence for women is essentially advocating empowerment for women. Even if it is only that narrow spectrum of economic empowerment. And women empowerment is the tool feminism uses to achieve its goal. Bow.....arrow.....and target. Empowerment.......women......and female emancipation/equal rights. If feminism were archery.

Elder001:
Rukkydelta I hope you're reading this because you were one of the people who made that ignorant remark.

I'm not against a lady that is independent and not a feminist but the fact is that most independent ladies are femininists. I'm just against when men wants a independent lady that will split the bills with them but will still refuse splitting domestic chores cos they claim heads
If a Lady choose to be a feminist or not is non of my business.

Rukkydelta:

I'm not against a lady that is independent and not a feminist but the fact is that most independent ladies are femininists. I'm just against when men wants a independent lady that will split the bills with them but will still refuse splitting domestic chores cos they claim heads
If a Lady choose to be a feminist or not is non of my business.

Naija feminists that b doing like tortoise. They want 2 pick when n when not 2 b feminists. If u b feminist, no p, I'll do d chores with u. When it gets 2 time 2 split bills, if I hear story, na Amadioha I go take swear 4 u.

Where I am currently living was solely built by our landlord's wife, but if you weren't told, you probably wouldn't know. Now, that is a wife every man craves for.

BTW, Mr op, i wouldn't want to call your write up trash.

How can a leech claim to be a feminist?Who will take her seriously? For any real and serious feminist who hopes to influence lives, financial independence is a pre-requisite

There is no one true feminist on this nairaland. All this rukky and queen and all that are h.oes in real life.

Una go log out and go Allen Avenue Open leg this weekend

Elder001:
A LADY DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A FEMINIST FOR SHE TO BE INDEPENDENT.

Hello Y'all.
Recently I saw a thread ,when I opened the thread I saw some people saying :Nigerian men hate feminists but they forget the good things they crave for comes with feminism ".

Now let's talk about the ignorance some people have on that matter. A woman doesn't have to be be a feminist before she can be independent. Independence is something every sensible woman is suppose to crave for.

Feminism is all about equal opportunities for both genders not financial independence. The founders of the feminism ideology didn't include financial independence in their cause" .Financial independence for ladies is another topic entirely on it's own.

Feminism is the advocacy of women's rights on the ground of the equality of the sexes.

Feminist movements have campaigned and continue to campaign for women's rights, including the right to vote, to hold public office, to work, to earn fair wages or equal pay, to own property, to receive education, to enter contracts, to have equal rights within marriage, and to have maternity leave. Feminists have also worked to ensure access to legal abortions and social integration, and to protect women and girls from rape, sexual harassment, and domestic violence and not independence because that's a different topic on it's own.



So a man can hate feminism and still want an independent wife.

about 75% of the American female population are independent.. who's gonna tell me they're all feminists?
The number of feminists among them aren't more than 15% even if more people support the ideology because there's difference between someone who's supporting something and someone who's practising the thing.


Y'all should stop spilling your ignorance everywhere okay.
Men can hate feminism and still crave for Independent ladies because financial independence has nothing to do with feminism.

Your post makes a whole lot of sense.

Shugarlord213:
There is no one true feminist on this nairaland. All this rukky and queen and all that are h.oes in real life.

Una go log out and go Allen Avenue Open leg this weekend

Uncle ode!

coolestofall:

Naija feminists that b doing like tortoise. They want 2 pick when n when not 2 b feminists. If u b feminist, no p, I'll do d chores with u. When it gets 2 time 2 split bills, if I hear story, na Amadioha I go take swear 4 u.

Alright
That's cool. Let's hook up then
I have found a perfect partner

Shugarlord213:
There is no one true feminist on this nairaland. All this rukky and queen and all that are h.oes in real life.

Una go log out and go Allen Avenue Open leg this weekend

Get to know me before saying things about me
I'm not your ex that broke your heart
Do have a nice day Mr

Feminism in Nigeria has a lot of misplaced priorities.

You want equal opportunities with men but you want a man to spend the bill when both of you go out on a date. When you are called to pay the bills now, your body starts itching you.


Nonsense.


We should all not confuse the word Feminism with An Independent woman. They are two different concepts.

Rukkydelta:

Alright
That's cool. Let's hook up then
I have found a perfect partner

U sure? Naso u go talk now, when u see bills now u go do like vampire wey c sun.

Any hw sha, send .e a pm lets talk away 4rm prying eyes

Elder001:
Read your books and do enough research very well before creating stupid threads and including feminism in them ,when you don't even have adequate knowledge on the ideology.

Boland hope you're also reading this.

The fact that you trew a tantrum at me because I gave my opinion on a subject matter proves that there is anger somewhere in your mind (I know you will deny this, but it's true), which indirectly will tell an intelligent mind that whatever comes out from that mind cannot be trusted because "anger" will definitely cloud any man's judgement.

I never said an independent woman/lady has to be feminist, I only said most independent women/ladies are feminist.

LadyMarionette:



Yes. I worked on that analogy. To correspond to your figures (not corroborating because I haven't checked them out yet): 75% of the American female population are birds that quack......only 15% or less are ducks. This is of course assuming that the only birds that quack are ducks.

This would lead me to another argument: is subjective consciousness a rudiment of feminism? Must a person define him/herself as one to be one; or can the flowers in bloom define the tree?

As a topic, anyone who advocates financial independence for women is essentially advocating empowerment for women. Even if it is only that narrow spectrum of economic empowerment. And women empowerment is the tool feminism uses to achieve its goal. Bow.....arrow.....and target. Empowerment.......women......and female emancipation/equal rights. If feminism were archery.

Feminism has nothing to do with financial independence for ladies.. a lady can be independent and not be a feminist.
I know 2 women that are bread winners in my area, trust me these ladies don't know if there's something called feminism... what do you've to say about that?
Trying to justify your ignorance makes this whole talks boring somehow.

Talking with you is a waste of my precious time.

"A time wasted can never be recovered" - Abraham Lincoln

Rukkydelta:

I'm not against a lady that is independent and not a feminist but the fact is that most independent ladies are femininists. I'm just against when men wants a independent lady that will split the bills with them but will still refuse splitting domestic chores cos they claim heads
If a Lady choose to be a feminist or not is non of my business.

Your ignorance is vast..

who told you that most independent ladies are feminists?
Let's take Nigeria for instance how many feminists do we even have in Nigeria? I believe we can count them but we can't count the number of independent ladies in Nigeria, right?...
A lady doesn't have to be a feminist for she to be independent neither does an independent lady have to be a feminist.

In my article, you saw the figures I put up there. About or more than 75% of the American female population are independent.. less than 15% are feminists.

when some kids rant on nairaland that Linda Ikeji is a feminist ,I just ask myself if Nigerians really understand the meaning of feminism.

The fact that Linda Ikeji is an independent lady doesn't mean she's a feminist.
The fact that Linda Ikeji has been preaching to Nigerian ladies to be independent doesn't make her a feminist because financial independence is something every sensible lady is supposed to strive for.

A feminist doesn't have to announce that she's a feminist before she's recognized as one.. your works are the things that'll determine if you're a feminist.

How many times have Linda Ikeji, Toke Makinwa and so called Nigerian feminists organized seminars on the topic of feminism or female liberation or even empowerment? how many times have they given speeches on the matter of female equality?

For example.. The world's current population is 7.5billion or more.. let's say 4 or 5billion are females

The number of feminists in this world aren't up to 600million.

So I wonder where you came with your "most independent ladies are feminists " remark from.

and as for your last statement :
there are two types of males in this world:
Alpha males and
Beta Males.

Alpha males are the ones that won't share bills with their wives and at the same time won't share house chores with their wives... they're pre dominantly found in Africa and some parts of Asia.


Beta males are the ones that share bills with their wives and at the same time share house chores with their wives... they're pre dominantly found in western countries and some parts of Asia.


Alpha males are already going to extinction in civilized countries.. a lot of them have embraced the "Beta male" concept.

Boland:
The fact that you trew a tantrum at me because I gave my opinion on a subject matter proves that there is anger somewhere in your mind (I know you will deny this, but it's true), which indirectly will tell an intelligent mind that whatever comes out from that mind cannot be trusted because "anger" will definitely cloud any man's judgement.

I never said an independent woman/lady has to be feminist, I only said [s]most independent women/ladies are feminist.[/s]

"Anger leads no man anywhere rather it destructs" - Abraham Lincoln, 1884


Most independent ladies aren't feminists.

Less than 10% of feminists make up the world's female population.

Independent ladies makes up about 57% or more of the world's female population.
let's talk about Britain... Dependent ladies in the UK and Europe as whole are at an all time low according to a research carried out by daily mail.
More than 83% of British women are working and somehow independent.

40% of them support feminism.. 25% of them are feminists.

note: there's deference between supporting something and putting something into practice.

75% or more of the American female population are independent and less than 15% or less are feminists.

Do your research carefully before opening threads to say what you don't know.


More than 57% of the world's female population are independent...
We've less than 600million feminists in this world.

Always behave cautiously to avoid being disgraced.

swiz123:
Where I am currently living was solely built by our landlord's wife, but if you weren't told, you probably wouldn't know. Now, that is a wife every man craves for.

BTW, Mr op, i wouldn't want to call your write up trash.

How can a leech claim to be a feminist?Who will take her seriously? For any real and serious feminist who hopes to influence lives, financial independence is a pre-requisite

Sorry your post doesn't correlate to my topic.

folake4u:
Feminism in Nigeria has a lot of misplaced priorities.

You want equal opportunities with men but you want a man to spend the bill when both of you go out on a date. When you are called to pay the bills now, your body starts itching you.


Nonsense.


We should all not confuse the word Feminism with An Independent woman. They are two different concepts.

A standout.. you're right.
I think this is the part nairalanders are being ignorant...
Feminism has nothing to do with financial independence for ladies...


Cheers

Elder001:



Feminism has nothing to do with financial independence for ladies.. a lady can be independent and not be a feminist.
I know 2 women that are bread winners in my area, trust me these ladies don't know if there's something called feminism... what do you've to say about that?
Trying to justify your ignorance makes this whole talks boring somehow.

Talking with you is a waste of my precious time.

"A time wasted can never be recovered" - Abraham Lincoln

Feminism has nothing to do with financial independence for ladies...


Smh.


I wonder...........

Does the face you were born with suffer the same insult of your halfwit that your moniker suffers? Is this something you really cannot help? Or do you only flaunt this level of arrogant ineptitude because of the cushy anonymity of this forum? You have a lot to learn, and you really should start with the basics. Until you do, you're absolutely right to call this interaction a waste of your time. You have no business in an advanced class.

Feminism means different things to different Ladies. Ask whomever you're interested in what feminism means to her. If her explanations can hold water for you,good , if not, please use an exit door.

LadyMarionette:



Feminism has nothing to do with financial independence for ladies...


Smh.


I wonder...........

Does the face you were born with suffer the same insult of your halfwit that your moniker suffers? Is this something you really cannot help? Or do you only flaunt this level of arrogant ineptitude because of the cushy anonymity of this forum? You have a lot to learn, and you really should start with the basics. Until you do, you're absolutely right to call this interaction a waste of your time. You have no business in an advanced class.

LOL! Advanced class!
How many independent ladies are feminists?
Nigeria for a case study.. how many independent ladies are feminists in Nigeria?.. do we even have up to 400 female feminists in Nigeria?

or you think you can just pickup your phone and start typing bullshit

LadyMarionette:



Feminism has nothing to do with financial independence for ladies...


Smh.


I wonder...........

Does the face you were born with suffer the same insult of your halfwit that your moniker suffers? Is this something you really cannot help? Or do you only flaunt this level of arrogant ineptitude because of the cushy anonymity of this forum? You have a lot to learn, and you really should start with the basics. Until you do, you're absolutely right to call this interaction a waste of your time. You have no business in an advanced class.

Hanseel1 and Elder001 are my two monikers.. please this should be the last time you gonna quote any of them.

I hate Unintelligent and primitive people.

For someone to feel comfortable saying an independent lady must be a feminist to the extent of saying that more than 75% of the American female population that are independent are birds that quak and less ducks it only shows your level of primitiveness and ignorance .

You think by being independent you're a feminist.. what a shame.

I bet you've never left the shores of Nigeria... Please do so.
Travel to USA.. if you meet 40ladies during your stay and up to 10 of them tell you they're feminists change my name.. but more than 30 of them will prove to you that they're independent.


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