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Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 7:35am On May 27, 2018 |
enimooko:Brother,why responding to this one? No matter how you try to reason with him he's not ready to use his brains. Red Cross,Salvation Army, MSF all these were set up by those who aren't ready to accept Jesus' command to "drop all weapons"! If they listens and agreed with Jehovah's witnesses, will there ever be any reason to carry weapons or think of organizing nurses to treat war casualties? They're gathered to misrepresent Christ and disagree with His commands,to cause disputes,to kill since they can't resolve matters amicably,to take vengeance upon vengeance and finally to treat casualties who will continue with the killing immediately they're able to carry the weapons again. But those who are saying "let's destroy all weapons,break all barriers and stop learning about wars" they're calling workers for Satan. Truly they're blind! 1 Like |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 7:56am On May 27, 2018 |
salvation101:If you refuse to listen to the truth, you can't carry honesthearted ones along with this obstinate stupidity. There's an adage in Yoruba that says "if fire burns part of you and your child,you'll treat yourself FIRST" You can run but you can't hide for the truth! After fleeing crisis for safety, what can take you back to the scene of the crisis if not to rescue a RELATION who knows the causes of crisis,how to avoid crisis and never going to participate in causing crisis? Reasonably it's when you're in a safe place that you can think of playing the "good Samaritan stuff" in such cases. Sorry Ma our level of understanding don pass your own,thanks to Jehovah and Jesus for setting up a Governing Body through whom we're wisely instructed! |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Hairyrapunzel: 7:59am On May 27, 2018 |
enimooko: Your organization was founded by who? Hypocrite. The founder was a psychologically unstable person who thought and taught the world was going to end in 1914. Organization that helps only it's members in times of trouble? Is that one organization? Only to give relief materials to your members alone. Red cross members donate blood so you and your sect members can get blood fractions. Salvation army will give you guys relief materials, shelter, food, water, money. MSF are selfless health workers across the globe who will treat you despite your religious affiliation. They are better than an organization who say their God is love yet show love to only their members in time of need. |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Hairyrapunzel: 8:06am On May 27, 2018 |
Riofidelio: Yet you will gladly collect blood fractions gotten from blood donated by people who love wars. You that you teach your jehovah is coming for the greatest genocide ever known to man Nko? Not everybody will agree to be zombies like you people. You want the world to be like north korea Where there is no war but the moment they disagree with their leader they are annihilated. The same way watchtower treats its members. See somebody preaching dropping weapons. Your governing body member says he will be beside Jesus slaughtering wicked (evil, unrighteous, pagans, non,jws). He even dreams of carrying a weapon for mass destruction. |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Jozzy4: 8:39am On May 27, 2018 |
salvation101: You are the one whose lies are exposed . 1 Like |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Jozzy4: 9:01am On May 27, 2018 |
salvation101: There are Hindus, Muslims who follow commands and visit orphanage homes as part Charity, does that validate their religion , ? Some of them don't even believe in Christ. James was discussing something profound regarding the way of life of someone who is in the truth , they should be generous . even James is in a religion moderated then by Jesus apostles. 1 Like |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 9:16am On May 27, 2018 |
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Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Hairyrapunzel: 9:24am On May 27, 2018 |
Riofidelio: You that has accepted Jesus command tell me where Jesus say he is coming to commit the greatest genocide ever known to man because people did not join an organization, listen and obey the 8 old men that control the organization. If you can show me where Jesus or Jehovah preached neutrality in your bible then I will join your religion and consider it the one true religion. |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Hairyrapunzel: 9:33am On May 27, 2018 |
Riofidelio: I am happy people are reading my comments here and also seeing your stupidity. I remember one time on nairaland I kept saying there is no where the bible said identifying and joining an organization will be the only means by which salvation will be guaranteed and somebody kept telling me that it wasn't my fault that I couldn't comprehend. Today the person agrees with me on this. This was about 3 months back. You feel making faces will give you an upper hand? Think again. You are giving a bad witness about jehovah. So many people here see you as the typical jehovah witness who instead of addressing issues, insults people. |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Hairyrapunzel: 9:35am On May 27, 2018 |
Jozzy4: Your lies and imaginary wishes where exposed here |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 10:00am On May 27, 2018 |
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Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 10:13am On May 27, 2018 |
Jozzy4:They want to open the eyes of members of a global happy family who are united,peaceful,fearless,bold,confident and to crown it all coming with strong faith to knock on their doors for one on one discussion whereas they are divided,vengeful,fearful,faithless,confused and defrauded by their so called leaders to the extent that none of them is bold enough to mention the name of his/her Church due to having NO reputation! No wonder Jesus rightly said about them "remove the rafter in your eye" Matthew 7:3-5 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 10:45am On May 27, 2018 |
Hairyrapunzel:Jesus haven taken the go ahead from Jehovah(His God and father) is coming to commit the greatest genocide ever known to man but will spare only His own! Revelations 19:12-18 compare to Luke 19:11-27 Zephaniah 2:2,3 and Psalms 110:1,2 So stop complaining about what a religious group is hammering in your hears rather ask to know what you're supposed to do to escape the wrath of the coming King! |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Jozzy4: 11:20am On May 27, 2018 |
Riofidelio: Just don't mind those ones . |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by johnw47: 11:35am On May 27, 2018 |
enimooko: is it anger or dislike, for example i don't like antichrists etc. and so could very well get angry with them |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by achorladey: 12:07pm On May 27, 2018 |
Hairyrapunzel:I am definitely one of those that converse long and hard with you on this "organisation" matter "blood tranfusion matter" and many other issues. Despite admitting on numerous occasion that you place your salvation on John 14:6 which I truly back then continually tackled you about. Now I can clearly see your viewpoint and perspective. If Jesus indeed were to be standing between you and a JW today and you make the statement as recorded in John 14:6. I dont think Jesus response will be different from the account recorded in Mark 9:38-42 compare Luke 9:49,50. Phillipians 29-11 God was wholly against the Israelites rejection of his rulership by wanting human leaders installed in a visible organisation. God vigorously warned them of it consequences. These supposed leaders continually led the God's dedicated people into sin. I am sure God will not want such a scenario to repeat itself after paying such a huge ransom sacrifice with his own son. Jesus bought us freedom, we should stop becoming slaves of men in whom salvation is far from their reach Acts 4:12, Psalms 146:4 1 Like |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Hairyrapunzel: 12:07pm On May 27, 2018 |
Riofidelio: Keep wishing and keep dreaming just like your ancestors have been for over 140years. Don't forget to bring out the verse in the Bible where God is going to kill people because they don't belong to an earthly/man made organization who are a publishing company and corporation. You will also show me where God said that he will kill people who don't accept 8 old men in new York as being annointed as they claim to be and obey their ever changing interpretation of the bible. So every time you sleep or wake you look forward to the wrath of your coming king? Now it is confirmed that you need help. Show me Bible passage and you have refused. Shame no even they let you bring out Bible passage. |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by achorladey: 12:29pm On May 27, 2018 |
Hairyrapunzel:After all, if an individual says he loves christ who am I to condemn such individual and separate him from such love? Romans 8:35-39. Who am I to say such love is not genuine? Jesus never gave us lovemeter to measure it genuineness but this I know can be followed as captured in Matthew 5: 43-48. What is recorded here in Matthew 5:43-48 is definitely not restricted to the preaching or witnessing work alone and the preaching work is not the foremost among what is regarded as showing love. Its not only when someone refuse to carry weapons to kill that shows genuineness of love amongst a group or organisation. That group must also be in constant check of not using their mouth to kill and stumble others both within and outside the bounds of such group or organisation Mark 9:41-42. Our mouth and tongues are death carriers James 3:8-10 It is indeed not right for things to continually happen this way. 1 Like |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Hairyrapunzel: 12:54pm On May 27, 2018 |
Riofidelio: Since you said Jesus has taken the go ahead from his father to come and commit the greatest genocide ever known to man, then it would have happened. Or did Jesus disobey his father? Or don't you think Jesus would have come to slaughter people since? If not, don't you think you are over stepping your boundaries in claiming you know what God has given the go ahead to? I can't be thinking of what to do of an impending wrath from a king supposed to be a loving one. I cant imagine an angry king coming to destroy a good and happy life so that 8 million people who are envious and unhappy about the life 8 billion people live will inherit it. Why should I fear something that is imaginary? Do you want me to develop anxiety disorder and depression over nothing? Think again Come to think of it, why would a God said to be loving slaughter people because they chose not to pay allegiance to an organization with headquarters in new York ruled by 8 old men? Why would he kill people for not following what he did not say in His book? Why would a loving God kill people based on laws made by some old men who head a publishing company in new York? I don't know how you guys think o but from what I can conclude from all your beliefs is that you guys think your organization is Jesus Christ. |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 4:08pm On May 27, 2018 |
Hairyrapunzel:I know you're "not open to any agreement"(2Timothy 3:3) that's why i stopped responding to your comments. You promised to have a rethink if i can present to you where the Bible said Jesus is coming to commit the greatest genocide ever known to man, i quoted several scriptures, instead of meditating over what was quoted you started insulting as usual.Well i never believed you when you said you'll join Jehovah's witnesses if you find those scriptures because being a true Christian involves responsibilities and most people aren't responsible but at least think over what you asked for and seeing quotations pointing it out to you! Just block your ears because we'll continue to proclaim Jehovah's judgment day whether you like it or not. |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 4:18pm On May 27, 2018 |
achorladey:Go and correct whatever you feel is wrong the best way you know but as for US we'll continue to tell people that God has an organization that is teaching people how to worship God acceptably and any other religious group or organization is FAKE! That's Jesus' pattern that led His contemporaries to develop intense hatred for Him and His followers so if you're not saying the same thing my friend some people can reason along with you oooooooo but intelligent observers will surely disagree with you! It's those FEW intelligent ones that Jehovah, Jesus and we Jehovah's witnesses want! |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Hairyrapunzel: 6:34pm On May 27, 2018 |
Riofidelio: Your magazines say your God will kill billions not associated with watchtower organization. He will kill 8 billion so 8 million can inherit the earth. Is it not the greatest genocide ever known to man? I didn't see it in the bible but your magazines say so that's why you believe it. |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Hairyrapunzel: 6:38pm On May 27, 2018 |
Riofidelio:Show us where Jesus approved an organization to teach people how to worship God in the bible. Show us the bible passage that showed it was Jesus pattern. Or maybe it's just in your magazines |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by enimooko: 7:27pm On May 27, 2018 |
johnw47:why are you angry, if you're happy? |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Hairyrapunzel: 7:48pm On May 27, 2018 |
Riofidelio: Watchtower quotes indicate salvation at Armageddon is dependant on being an active Jehovah's Witness, associating with the Watchtower Organization In Jehovah's organisation it is not necessary to spend a lot of time and energy in research, for there are brothers in the organisation who are assigned to that very thing, to help you who do not have so much time for this, these preparing the good material in The Watchtower and other publications of the Society." Watchtower 1967 Jun 1 p.338 You see watchtower organization the publishing company, states it is Jehovah's organization. Only jehovah's witnesses and those of the anointed remnant and the "great crowd," as a united organization under the protection of the Supreme Organizer, have any Scriptural hope of surviving the impending end of this doomed system dominated by Satan the Devil." Watchtower 1989 Sep 1 p.19 "In fact, with God's day of judgment so near today, all the world should 'keep silent before the Sovereign Lord Jehovah' and hear what he says through the "little flock" of Jesus' anointed followers and their companions, his "other sheep." (Luke 12:32; John 10:16) Annihilation awaits all who will not listen and who thereby set themselves against rule by God's Kingdom." Watchtower 2001 Feb 15 p. 14 In effect, Jesus also conveys Jehovah’s voice to us as he directs the congregation through “the faithful and discreet slave.” (Matt. 24:45) We need to take this guidance and direction seriously, for our everlasting life depends on our obedience." Watchtower 2014 Aug 15 p.21 "During the final period of the ancient world that perished in the Flood, Noah was a faithful preacher of righteousness. (2 Peter 2:5) In these last days of the present system of things, Jehovah's people are making known Gods righteous standards and are declaring good news about the possibility of surviving into the new world. (2 Peter 3:9-13) Just as Noah and his God-fearing family were preserved in the ark, survival of individuals today depends on their faith and their loyal association with the earthly part of Jehovah's universal organization." Watchtower 2006 May 15 p.22 "Are You Prepared for Survival?" "Similarly, Jehovah is using only one organization today to accomplish his will. To receive everlasting life in the earthly Paradise we must identify that organization and serve God as part of it." Watchtower 1983 Feb 15 p.12 Watchtower goes as far as to state that there are billions in line for destruction There are billions of people who do not know Jehovah. Many of them in ignorance practice things that God's Word shows to be wicked. If they persist in this course, they will be among those who perish during the great tribulation." Watchtower 1993 Oct 1 p.19 Watchtower has always preached that following the Bible is not enough for salvation, neither are belief in Jesus Ransom or living a moral life. They only preach that only submitting to Jehovah's Watchtower Organization results in salvation "As for humans upon earth, on the side of Jehovah will be all those fully dedicated to him and who are faithfully following Jesus Christ; compared with earth's billions these are indeed few. ... On Satan's side will be all the rest of mankind, more than 99.9 percent ..." Watchtower 1958 Oct 15 p.614 See your leaders saying 99.9% would die. This is worse than Hitler's records intact it is going to be the Greatest genocide ever known to man. It's like so many jehovah witnesses will suffer from post traumatic stress disorder. "... to leave Jehovah's organization ... we would lose not only the privilege of doing God's will but also the hope of life in God's new world." Watchtower 2016 Jun study ed p.26 Those who leave are told they will die an everlasting death In the near future this generation will see the foretold “great tribulation” that will bring an end to this present wicked system. (Matt. 24:21) At that time none of Jehovah’s faithful servants, the only ones surviving, will mourn over the destruction of the wicked. To the contrary, they will rejoice, even as Moses and his people rejoiced at the destruction of Pharaoh and his army." Watchtower 1977 Jun 1 p.345 Your leaders tell you to even rejoice at the destruction of mankind Some opposers [are] entertaining ideas that God is so merciful that he surely will not cause the death of so many millions of people during the "great tribulation." Watchtower 1986 Mar 15 p.19 People who disagree about God killing every non jw are tagged opposers |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Hairyrapunzel: 7:53pm On May 27, 2018 |
achorladey: Thank God you now understand my own standpoint of view. It's painful when people twist the bible for their own gain. |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by achorladey: 7:57pm On May 27, 2018 |
Riofidelio:Another person can post likewise and say you are not open to agreement. You are not shifting grounds and the person you are replying is not as well. It is only when you accept that the bone of contention"the concept organisation" is not enough not to completely over rule the simple truth found in John 14:6,7 Matthew 22:37-39 Matthew 5-43-48. It is only then you can be open or reach an agreement. These are basic truth that cannot be interpreted in any other ways. |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by enimooko: 8:10pm On May 27, 2018 |
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Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by achorladey: 8:13pm On May 27, 2018 |
Riofidelio:Feel free to make distinction between original organisation and fake organisation. Its your call but I know it does not sit well with wisdom from above. James 3: 13-18 |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by enimooko: 8:31pm On May 27, 2018 |
Hairyrapunzel: OK. The Governing Body is a small group of mature Christians who provide direction for Jehovah’s Witnesses worldwide. Their work is twofold: They oversee the preparation of Bible-based instruction through the publications, meetings, and schools of Jehovah’s Witnesses.—Luke 12:42. They supervise the worldwide work of Jehovah’s Witnesses by directing our public ministry and overseeing the use of donated assets. The Governing Body follows the pattern set by “the apostles and elders in Jerusalem” in the first century, who made important decisions on behalf of the entire Christian congregation. (Acts 15:2) Like those faithful men, the members of the Governing Body are not the leaders of our organization. They look to the Bible for guidance, acknowledging that Jehovah God has appointed Jesus Christ as the Head of the congregation.—1 Corinthians 11:3; Ephesians 5:23. Who are the members of the Governing Body? As of January 2018, the members of the Governing Body are Kenneth Cook, Jr., Samuel Herd, Geoffrey Jackson, Stephen Lett, Gerrit Lösch, Anthony Morris III, Mark Sanderson, and David Splane. They serve at our world headquarters in Warwick, New York, U.S.A. How is the Governing Body organized? The Governing Body has established six committees to oversee various aspects of our work, and each member serves on one or more of these committees. Coordinators’ Committee: Supervises legal matters and responds to disasters, to incidents in which our members are persecuted for their religious beliefs, and to other urgent matters affecting Jehovah’s Witnesses. Personnel Committee: Oversees the arrangements for Bethel family members. Publishing Committee: Supervises the production and shipping of Bible literature and the construction of meeting places, translation offices, and branch facilities. Service Committee: Oversees our work of preaching the “good news of the Kingdom.”—Matthew 24:14. Teaching Committee: Directs the preparation of spiritual instruction provided by means of meetings, schools, and audio and video programs. Writing Committee: Directs the preparation of spiritual instruction provided in printed form and on our website and oversees translation work. In addition to its work through these committees, the Governing Body meets each week to consider the needs of the organization. In these meetings, the members discuss what the Scriptures say, and they yield to the influence of God’s holy spirit, striving for unanimous decisions.—Acts 15:25. Who are the helpers to the Governing Body? These are trustworthy Christians who assist Governing Body committees. (1 Corinthians 4:2) They have ability and experience in the work overseen by the committee to which they are assigned, and they attend its weekly meeting. Although they do not share in making decisions, the helpers provide valuable advice and background information, implement the committee’s decisions, and monitor the results and progress of these. They may also be assigned by the Governing Body to visit our brotherhood in various parts of the world or to deliver parts at events such as annual meetings or Gilead graduations. https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/governing-body/ |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by enimooko: 8:56pm On May 27, 2018 |
Hairyrapunzel: Very funny that your Daddy GOs may be sad about another group of worshipers that are teaching the truth |
Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by Nobody: 9:07pm On May 27, 2018 |
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