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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Naughtytboy: 10:28am On May 30, 2018
asha80:
you are right and i have also said this before..the only issue is that quality of players now cannot be compared to the 90's set
ya but I feel Moses ndidi iwobi Mikel simy can pull a surprise. Senegal did it Ghana too even without great individual players
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:28am On May 30, 2018
Joebie:
Rohr had said it since March that he would be releasing a 30 man list in May.. meaning he had a 35 man list prior to the Poland-Serbia friendlies. Possibly that list was pruned down even before he released the 28 man list.
Even in the selection of the 30 he said they took the decision collectively. So really there is nothing more I can say than he has sentimental people around him. And who knows, there could be more things I don't know.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 10:29am On May 30, 2018
Kog45:
Oga forgiveness i think you have been in this business for so long and you must know better how Nigeria national team selection goes irrespective of coach(foreign or local)

Different interest came into players selection and do not be deceived Rohr must listened to his back room staffs, so what they give him he works with.

I want to tell you that five dropped players from original 35 man list played against Atletico,and one keep on asking why players like Samuel Kalu,Ebere Eze,Peter Olayinka and Ajagun were not called up even if Rohr has seen enough of Nwakaeme,Kayode,Alampasu and Esiti.

Sir this is Nigeria nothing should surprised you,a lot of damn pressure from officials, agents and backroom staffs,bros you should know better,Nigeria factor and it would take an highly discipline coach to succeed.

I remember i was having discussion with Humility017 and i said i know a lot about eagles especially players invitations.

Check Simeon injury issue,an NFF official insisted that Simeon must have another medical check up in London cos he was suspecting conspiracy.This are the pressure a coach face in managing Nigeria national team.

But good things is that Rohr is getting it right by managing the team irrespective of players recommended to him.He gave them the opportunity but if you don't measured up you are out

Sir let's hope for better WC irrespective of players involved cos 2018 w definitely determine 2019 Afcon and 2022 WC.

we should not be talking about players in the 35 man sqaud, who knows Rohr mentioned Nwakali name because of the current pressure from the fans to call him up.

a good leader listen to his subordinate ideas and Rohr did that and his not hiding it because he sees nothing wrong with it.

Make una leave this man make he work
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Farzat: 10:29am On May 30, 2018
[quote author=Joebie post=68008660]That's why I've been asking questions. Nwakali in top 35 is a no no.. These players have to earn their ratings based on club performance.. Now more questions, was Usman, Eduok and the other two also in the top 35? Rohr definitely has some sentimental people around him.

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I think we are reading too much meanings into Rhor's response to d press about Nwakali. This man is very diplomatic in responding to questions and u must be on d same page to understand some of his comments. Firstly Rhor did not invite d team B against A.madrid but Salusi did. All d players that are in Rhor's WC program has been invited at one point and some got dropped along d line including promising players like Chidi Nwakali, Victor Oshimen, Musa Mohamed, Emma Daniel etc. D newest inclusions to d team are d ones that performed extremely well towards d end of d season and Nwakali did not fall into that Category. So l believe that Rhor was trying to claim a vast knowledge of Nigerian players, but having untested and unproven player in his 35man list that should be submitted to Fifa for WC can not be a reality from a conservative coach like Rhor. This man has been fair in selecting our best legs. He has listening ear to recommendations but he knows exactly what he want in a player and does not need many games to identify a player with d quality he needs. Lets support this team

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by asha80(m): 10:31am On May 30, 2018
Naughtytboy:
ya but I feel Moses ndidi iwobi Mikel simy can pull a surprise. Senegal did it Ghana too even without great individual players
that senegal of 2002 had good individual players in salif diao,fadiga,henry camara,diuof,cisse..maybe not great but they were quite good.ghana 2010 yes werent so good individually per say

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 10:33am On May 30, 2018
asha80:
lmao is this true?
Yes
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 10:33am On May 30, 2018
forgiveness:



Read well. You will see Nepotism there. You can't be deceiving yourself continuously.

When I said Nwakali was on the 35 man list prior to the friendly against Athletico Madrid, was I telling the thruth or not?

This is the koko.
Rest. Rest. Be still. You don't have an idea how corrupt Nigeria is and that is why when I see you crying I get angry at your naivety. I don't even have problem with corruption in Nigeria. My problem is our hypocrisy. If I have my way the first institution I will disband is EFCC.

How can we claim to be fighting corruption when the instruments with which we are fighting corruption are themselves corrupt.

Police thief prosecuting ordinary thief. Guy go and rest. You will hit your head against this wall, you will bleed. Go to some ministries and don't offer bribe and see if your work will get done.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 10:34am On May 30, 2018
Joebie:
Rohr had said it since March that he would be releasing a 30 man list in May.. meaning he had a 35 man list prior to the Poland-Serbia friendlies. Possibly that list was pruned down even before he released the 28 man list.
Even in the selection of the 30 he said they took the decision collectively. So really there is nothing more I can say than he has sentimental people around him. And who knows, there could be more things I don't know.


what decision was sentimental, who was there that was not suppose to be there?? please answer.

And don't call Agbo and Agu because he has always like them from the start and every coach tends to like some players the fans don't fancy.

Anybody body truly following this team since Rohr took over should know that this team was legit 95% Rohr list.

Nigerians are never satisfied

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 10:35am On May 30, 2018
Martz101:


we should not be talking about players in the 35 man sqaud, who knows Rohr mentioned Nwakali name because of the current pressure from the fans to call him up.

a good leader listen to his subordinate ideas and Rohr did that and his not hiding it because he sees nothing wrong with it.

Make una leave this man make he work
Sir yes you are right,now to talk on 25 man list.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Naughtytboy: 10:35am On May 30, 2018
Kog45:
Rohr already made up his mind and on player to drop.

Uche Agbo surprised to see him dropped cos always make Rohr squad despite not playing

Stephen Eze lacks the pedigree to compete with Omeruo a d Awaziem, so expected

Junior Lokosa had a debut and impressed as winger but hope to see him after WC.

Dele Ajiboye had a good performance in camp and gave Rohr headache in picking between him,Ezenwa and Akpeyi.

With this decision Rohr is a very conservative who believe in those who worked with him and Simmy need to thank his star that Simeon is out injure.

Hope to see good match against London and see who to drop again.
see no sensible coach will drop simy even if Moses wasn't injured,, are they playing the same wing? Simy has a lot to offer he's quick strong skilful and can hold on the ball
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 10:37am On May 30, 2018
Let’s leave Kayode out of it. The selection of the 30 was done collectively. Meaning the pruning down was done collectively. K. Nwakali remains a special talent no doubt. But my question is on the back of what performance did he make the 35 man list?

There is also a strong possibility that all 5 players invited for Atletico were part of the 35. Come to think of it. That team was regarded as our team B, with the “best” players in the NPFL. Wouldn’t it be reasonable to also invite the “best” 5 fringe players, those who barely missed out of the 30, to join them?


Mujtahida:

God bless you realpoacher. This is an answer, very factual rebuttal to forgiveness' claims. You did excellently well and I must say this is a benchmark response. Not that when a person has nothing to say he will just engage in ad hominem attacks.


What Rohr said gave forgiveness something to grasp(personally I don't even see any issues with Nwakali being in the 35 man list) and accuse the coach of corruption but I am happy you have answered him very capably.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Naughtytboy: 10:40am On May 30, 2018
asha80:
that senegal of 2002 had good individual players in salif diao,fadiga,henry camara,diuof,cisse..maybe not great but they were quite good.ghana 2010 yes werent so good individually per say
i only know diouf and fadiga .was just a teen then.. I just have the feeling that if we make it out of the group we can get to the quarter finals
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 10:40am On May 30, 2018
Icon4s:


In as much as I see Kayode as a surplus requirement to this team, I don't see him as a flop. He just has better talented players to contend with.

If it were 4years ago he would have made Keshi's 30man list at least.

keshi list??

omg keshi list was not by merit, strikers like amobi made it and ideye and Martins didn't
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 10:41am On May 30, 2018
Rohr has not been taking decisions as regards the list independently. We heard from the horse’ mouth. This is not an accusation on Rohr.

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I wish I could see the 50 man list lol..
Martz101:


what decision was sentimental, who was there that was not suppose to be there?? please answer.

And don't call Agbo and Agu because he has always like them from the start and every coach tends to like some players the fans don't fancy.

Anybody body truly following this team since Rohr took over should know that this team was legit 95% Rohr list.

Nigerians are never satisfied

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by asha80(m): 10:44am On May 30, 2018
dele ajiboye trending on twitter
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 10:44am On May 30, 2018
Kog45:
I think medical reports from camp should do the talking not players telling us they are fit.World cup is not for unfit players.

Rohr must come out and tell us on their fitness cos players like Ebuehi and Ndidi are important to the team.

If Moses Simeon or any players would be out in the next two weeks then they should be dropped.

In other countries nothing like managing players, Romero out Argentina called replacement ASAP but here stories.

oga if ndidi or mikel is out for 2 weeks they will make the squad, our first game is 16th of June

Romero injury is not short term, his been injured most part of the season
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 10:45am On May 30, 2018
Naughtytboy:
Agbo, Steven eze, locosa dropped

Ajiboye made the cut?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Naughtytboy: 10:47am On May 30, 2018
Martz101:


Ajiboye made the cut?
No
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 10:48am On May 30, 2018
Joebie:
Rohr has not been taking decisions as regards the list independently. We heard from the horse’ mouth. This is not an accusation on Rohr.

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I wish I could see the 50 man list lol..

what's the essence of having an assistant and others...one of the attribute of a good leader is giving audience to your subordinate but making the final say.

I asked again who is the player there by sentiment??
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 10:50am On May 30, 2018
Mujtahida:

Etebo is an asset, Etebo is versatile, Etebo is a workaholic. Na so I don dey hear tey tey. But if there's one player that in my estimation confuses Rohr it is this Etebo. Since the match against south Africa he has been a flop yes a flop in the Gwg.

in this case you will choose rhe better demon, what will you say of joel obi, untested agbo or unreliable Agu?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by asha80(m): 10:50am On May 30, 2018
Kog45:
I think medical reports from camp should do the talking not players telling us they are fit.World cup is not for unfit players.

Rohr must come out and tell us on their fitness cos players like Ebuehi and Ndidi are important to the team.

If Moses Simeon or any players would be out in the next two weeks then they should be dropped.

In other countries nothing like managing players, Romero out Argentina called replacement ASAP but here stories.
ther are few exceptions though..spain it seems want to wait on carvajal..egypt still have dreams of salah playing .

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5779303/Dani-Carvajal-join-Spain-World-Cup-squad-despite-hamstring-injury.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5780667/Mohamed-Salah-heads-Spain-undergo-treatment-shoulder-injury.html

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 10:50am On May 30, 2018
Naughtytboy:
see no sensible coach will drop simy even if Moses wasn't injured,, are they playing the same wing? Simy has a lot to offer he's quick strong skilful and can hold on the ball
Sir you are rght but with Simeon out easy for Rohr to decide.

James Obiorah was marvelous with great performance against Jamaica prior to France 98 that dwarfed Simy's own against Congo but dropped.

With Simeon available it would not have been easy not that he would not make it but Rohr will have sleepless night to decide.

Even if Simeon later make it meaning one more midfielder need to go,hope you get my point.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 10:51am On May 30, 2018
There is nothing wrong with him consulting with them.. But questions need to be asked when there are questionable events. Nigeria has not changed overnight, and I'm not expecting that to happen.. But we still have to say it as it is.

I already asked the question, on the back of what performance was K. Nwakali included in the 35 man list? He is a great player no doubt

Martz101:


what's the essence of having an assistant and others...one of the attribute of a good leader is giving audience to your subordinate but making the final say.

I asked again who is the player there by sentiment??

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 10:52am On May 30, 2018
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by gamaliel9: 10:53am On May 30, 2018
Come to think of..the dropped Eze is not even better than Orji and Adeleye...Duru showed more grit sef...
jee nolu ana
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by aodis: 10:53am On May 30, 2018
tbaba1234:
The 4 dropped men.




And Moses Simon dropped confirmed!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 10:53am On May 30, 2018
Humility017:

how good is this elderson you are guys parading to be better than aina...
is it the one I know....or there is another elderson in the super eagles I don't know of.
a player so good and better than aina...but the best he gets in Europe was a division 2 club in belguim...where he still sits on the bench....

Aina is better than elderson....take that from me.....

you guys clamouring for elderson are doing so...because of experience...that have been useless to even the player....

If aina is better he should do that on the pitch, i was very much in support of Aina but not anymore.

Ebuehi has played far lesser games and yet he convince everybody what he can do.

if aina is good let him prove it

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mazimee(m): 10:53am On May 30, 2018
asha80:
dele ajiboye trending on twitter


Fate can be Unkind. Akpeyi sad
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mazimee(m): 10:54am On May 30, 2018
aodis:


And Moses Simon dropped confirmed!

He still got to be scanned in England
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Naughtytboy: 10:55am On May 30, 2018
Kog45:
Sir you right but with Simeon out easy for Rohr to decide.

James Obiorah was marvelous with great performance against Jamaica prior to France 98 that dwarfed Simy's own against Congo but dropped.

With Simeon available it would not have been easy not that he would not make it but Rohr will have sleepless night to decide.

Even if Simeon later make it meaning one more midfielder need to go,hope you get my point.

sir i disagree, we don't have a deadly striker, you can't go to the world Cup with one unreliable striker. Simeon is a winger. And we all know ighalo isn't a poacher but with simy ighalo have to be on his toes
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 10:56am On May 30, 2018
Martz101:


If aina is better he should do that on the pitch, i was very much in support of Aina but not anymore.

Ebuehi has played far lesser games and yet he convince everybody what he can do.

if aina is good let him prove it
has elderson proved himself....?
let the old player proved himself first on why he should be in Russia....

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 10:57am On May 30, 2018
Rohr consults with Salusi. Why won't Salusi consult with Rohr especially as regards the foreign players? The 50 man list have always been at their disposal. Or do u think Rohr was not interested in that "holiday game", with a view to future invitations?
I've not even accused him of being unfair.

Farzat:
I think we are reading too much meanings into Rhor's response to d press about Nwakali. This man is very diplomatic in responding to questions and u must be on d same page to understand some of his comments. Firstly Rhor did not invite d team B against A.madrid but Salusi did. All d players that are in Rhor's WC program has been invited at one point and some got dropped along d line including promising players like Chidi Nwakali, Victor Oshimen, Musa Mohamed, Emma Daniel etc. D newest inclusions to d team are d ones that performed extremely well towards d end of d season and Nwakali did not fall into that Category. So l believe that Rhor was trying to claim a vast knowledge of Nigerian players, but having untested and unproven player in his 35man list that should be submitted to Fifa for WC can not be a reality from a conservative coach like Rhor. This man has been fair in selecting our best legs. He has listening ear to recommendations but he knows exactly what he want in a player and does not need many games to identify a player with d quality he needs. Lets support this team

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