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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 10:08am On Jun 01, 2018
NairobiWalker:


Nairobi practically beats Lagos in everything good except population.

Nairobi beats Lagos in the number of slums, Concentration camp houses and expensive houses which the overwhelming majority of the citizens cannot afford.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Daejoyoung: 10:15am On Jun 01, 2018
Nowenuse:



Yeah, I am proud to be from Jos (central Nigeria).
I currently live in Warri city in South-south Nigeria.

Both cities have a large urban area of over 1.5 million people. By the next census next year, they would have both clocked 2 million people each. Their economies are growing too.
I visit Lagos occasionally and know the city quite well.

You see, I am happy that Nigeria is not like Kenya where everyone has to live in Nairobi.
The majority of Nigeria's middleclass population do not live in Lagos unlike your one-city country.
I can bet my balls here that all of you Kenyans on this thread live in Nairobi grin where you are heavily congested in those concentration camp houses that dominate Nairobi grin

Look at Warri city view below.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3IUhortNLg

Then see my current location from google map and the view of the area I live. Can you see that here in Nigeria we do not live in concentration camp houses and slums?
When will Kenya ever get to this level?
Yeah and also in warri where l live you can get a nice 3 bedroom apartment for 300-360 thousand per annum. This is true around warri, and in jakpa, Ekpan to be precise. Though there are more business opportunities in Lagos and some of my family members may prefer Lagos for this reason, but l think I'd rather stay in warri than Lagos.
Also it is an oil based city and so the population of the middle class is considerably high.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MPSA(m): 10:21am On Jun 01, 2018
nwoke37:


Dude, then who built our capital Abuja from Scratch? Nigeria built Abuja in the 80s from scratch. This was after our Independence in the 1960

SORRY! Do you want to tell me; You have a good brain that can build a city? If so! Shut Up, We also built South Africa grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MPSA(m): 10:29am On Jun 01, 2018
nwoke37:


Dude, then who built our capital Abuja from Scratch? Nigeria built Abuja in the 80s from scratch. This was after our Independence in the 1960

Since we were with whites for a long time in South Africa, Everything we did it together as South Africans, if you don't believe that grin You must kiss my ass grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 10:32am On Jun 01, 2018
NairobiWalker:

They're called flats. They are good because they enable high density housing without turning the whole place into slums like these in Lagos CBD.

First of all, Lagos does not have one single place known as CBD, there are several CBDs.

That place in your picture has been demolished long ago, it no longer exists. Verify with your google map.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Daejoyoung: 10:34am On Jun 01, 2018
MPSA:


SORRY! Do you want to tell me; You have a good brain that can build a city? If so! Shut Up, We also built South Africa grin
l think his point is that it is meaningless comparing SA with decades of white rule to other African countries like Ghana, Nigeria, Cameroon, etc where the whites did little except in exploiting their resources for Europe.
At a time, Johannesburg was an important city to the world because of her gold, also take a look at the stock market of Johannesburg which has been in existence since the 19th century, why would you compare this to that of Nigeria formed immediately after independence in 1960, and hampered by some policies from decades of military rule.
The foundation of Southern Africa and West Africa is different and so are the problems. We are not saying black South Africans are dull or useless but that they were mainly iliterates until 1994, same with Nigeria which had mainly iliterates in 1960.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 10:37am On Jun 01, 2018
Nowenuse:


First of all, Lagos does not have one single place known as CBD, there are several CBDs.

That place in your picture has been demolished long ago, it no longer exists. Verify with your google map.

Please, send me a current photo to ascertain this place has been demolished.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 10:39am On Jun 01, 2018
Nowenuse:


Nairobi beats Lagos in the number of slums, Concentration camp houses and expensive houses which the overwhelming majority of the citizens cannot afford.

Lagos itself is one huge slum. Slums constitute onlt 5% of Nairobi - unless you're trying to saying a majority of Nairobians can fit in 5% of it's area which is just 34 sq. km while the few rich ones live in 662 sq. km
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 10:46am On Jun 01, 2018
Nowenuse:



Yeah, I am proud to be from Jos (central Nigeria).
I currently live in Warri city in South-south Nigeria.

Both cities have a large urban area of over 1.5 million people. By the next census next year, they would have both clocked 2 million people each. Their economies are growing too.
I visit Lagos occasionally and know the city quite well.

You see, I am happy that Nigeria is not like Kenya where everyone has to live in Nairobi.
The majority of Nigeria's middleclass population do not live in Lagos unlike your one-city country.
I can bet my balls here that all of you Kenyans on this thread live in Nairobi grin where you are heavily congested in those concentration camp houses that dominate Nairobi grin

Look at Warri city view below.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3IUhortNLg

Then see my current location from google map and the view of the area I live. Can you see that here in Nigeria we do not live in[b] concentration camp houses[/b] and slums?
When will Kenya ever get to this level?

How can people live in concentration camps? Are you just dumb or you're trolling?

The reason we say you've never been to Lagos is because what you say about Lagos and the real picture on ground are two very different things as a real Nigerian who lives in Lagos said.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MPSA(m): 10:53am On Jun 01, 2018
Daejoyoung:

l think his point is that it is meaningless comparing SA with decades of white rule to other African countries like Ghana, Nigeria, Cameroon, etc where the whites did little except in exploiting their resources for Europe.
At a time, Johannesburg was an important city to the world because of her gold, also take a look at the stock market of Johannesburg which has been in existence since the 19th century, why would you compare this to that of Nigeria formed immediately after independence in 1960, and hampered by some policies from decades of military rule.
The foundation of Southern Africa and West Africa is different and so are the problems. We are not saying black South Africans are dull or useless but that they were mostly illiterates until 1994, same with Nigeria which had mainly illiterates in 1960.

Do you want to tell me; Nelson Mandela, Thabo Mbeki, Steve Biko, Albert Luthuli (the 1960 NOBEL PEACE PRICE WINNER) Where also illiterates, Tell me any good story about your people please grin I want to learn more about your people grin , You talk as if your people did something good in this world grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 10:58am On Jun 01, 2018
Daejoyoung:

l think his point is that it is meaningless comparing SA with decades of white rule to other African countries like Ghana, Nigeria, Cameroon, etc where the whites did little except in exploiting their resources for Europe.
At a time, Johannesburg was an important city to the world because of her gold, also take a look at the stock market of Johannesburg which has been in existence since the 19th century, why would you compare this to that of Nigeria formed immediately after independence in 1960, and hampered by some policies from decades of military rule.
The foundation of Southern Africa and West Africa is different and so are the problems. We are not saying black South Africans are dull or useless but that they were mainly iliterates until 1994, same with Nigeria which had mainly iliterates in 1960.

You guys love excuses. Now you're crediting SA's development to white people and gold. Meanwhile you have oil which Kenya doesn't - why are you not ahead of Kenya? Johannesburg is still an important city to the world and still the richest city in Africa with by far the busiest Airport, best infrastructure, most skyscrapers, largest stocks exchange busiest roads etc. To make it simpler, Jo'burg is the New York of Africa.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MPSA(m): 10:59am On Jun 01, 2018
NairobiWalker:


You guys love excuses. Now you're crediting SA's development to white people and gold. Meanwhile you have oil which Kenya doesn't - why are you not ahead of Kenya? Johannesburg is still an important city to the world and still the richest city in Africa with by far the busiest Airport, best infrastructure, most skyscrapers, largest stocks exchange busiest roads etc. To make it simpler, Jo'burg is the New York of Africa.

Tell them Brother grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Daejoyoung: 11:01am On Jun 01, 2018
MPSA:


Do you want to tell me; Nelson Mandela, Thabo Mbeki, Steve Biko, Albert Luthuli (the 1960 NOBEL PEACE PRICE WINNER) Where also illiterates, Tell me any good story about your people please grin I want to learn more about your people grin , You talk as if your people did something good in this world grin
Albert luthuli, noble prize winner in what?? in making peace right?? Apart from Noble price in peace, why can't black Africans get noble prices in other things, at least Nigeria would rather produce in literature rather than peace, and we are literary giants even till this day, though not like we were in the eighties.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MPSA(m): 11:04am On Jun 01, 2018
Daejoyoung:

Albert luthuli, noble prize winner in what?? in making peace right?? Apart from Noble price in peace, why can't black Africans get noble prices in other things, at least Nigeria would rather produce in literature rather than peace, and we are literary giants even till this day, though not like we were in the eighties.

What did you achieved out of that? NOTHING grin Absolutely NOTHING grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 11:14am On Jun 01, 2018
Daejoyoung:

Albert luthuli, noble prize winner in what?? in making peace right?? Apart from Noble price in peace, why can't black Africans get noble prices in other things, at least Nigeria would rather produce in literature rather than peace, and we are literary giants even till this day, though not like we were in the eighties.

For some weird reason, you think writing literature books is better than fighting for black people and demanding equality and justice.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by MPSA(m): 11:32am On Jun 01, 2018
NairobiWalker:


For some weird reason, you think writing literature books is better than fighting for black people and demanding equality and justice.
Help him Brother, He don't have any knowledge about Black South Africans, Writing books mean nothing, but useless business grin He must learn from the best grin The world Hero's cry


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyXagT21keo
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 11:55am On Jun 01, 2018
TayserMahiri:


am listening.
where do you fall urself? And what business does the local govt have in determining where natives and non natives settle?

Anyone can settle anywhere. Natives tend to live in older houses more often cos those are their ancestral houses.
Some poorer non-natives also live in those native areas and many natives build and live in the modern houses as well.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 12:23pm On Jun 01, 2018
NairobiWalker:


How can people live in concentration camps? Are you just dumb or you're trolling?

The reason we say you've never been to Lagos is because what you say about Lagos and the real picture on ground are two very different things as a real Nigerian who lives in Lagos said.

I am not trolling! Kenyan low income houses look like concentration camps yet so expensive.

Abuja main city is also very expensive like Nairobi. But as usual, Nigerian cities like I told you are designed for everyone irrespective of your pocket size.
You can enjoy a decent house in any Nigerian city no matter how small your pocket is.... You must not be forced into a congested multi-story building with thousands of people in terribly small rooms without ventilation and yet pay 10k shillings (35,000 naira) per month.

Before you argue with me, read this link below of your fellow Kenyan telling the true story of housing problem in Nairobi.

http://www.ghafla.com/crisis-how-housing-in-nairobi-has-become-a-nightmare-for-millions-of-city-dwellers/

Let us give Lagos a break and move to Abuja which is our capital city.
Look below at the different ranges of price of a single bedroom in Abuja in ascending order of cost. There are more expensive ones and cheaper ones.

Notice that all the houses look very decent no matter how cheap they are. Lower income people must not be dehumanized for the sake of making Nairobi impressive to foreigners. You people must stop living fake lives.

Cc TayserMahiri, Jay254, rvp201822

Note* These houses are from propertyPro.com (a confirmed and legitimate housing company) and not OLX.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:31pm On Jun 01, 2018
I don’t get it...How can you compare this with Nairobi or Johannesburg?

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 12:33pm On Jun 01, 2018
Nowenuse:


I am not trolling! Kenyan low income houses look like concentration camps yet so expensive.

Abuja main city is also very expensive like Nairobi. But as usual, Nigerian cities like I told you are designed for everyone irrespective of your pocket size.
You can enjoy a decent house in any Nigerian city no matter how small your pocket is.... You must not be forced into a congested multi-story building with thousands of people in terribly small rooms without ventilation and yet pay 10k shillings (35,000 naira) per month.

Before you argue with me, read this link below of your fellow Kenyan telling the true story of housing problem in Nairobi.

http://www.ghafla.com/crisis-how-housing-in-nairobi-has-become-a-nightmare-for-millions-of-city-dwellers/

Let us give Lagos a break and move to Abuja which is our capital city.
Look below at the different ranges of price of a single bedroom in Abuja in ascending order of cost. There are more expensive ones and cheaper ones.

Notice that all the houses look very decent no matter how cheap they are. Lower income people must not be dehumanized for the sake of making Nairobi impressive to foreigners. You people must stop living fake lives.

Cc TayserMahiri, Jay254, rvp201822

Note* These houses are from propertyPro.com (a confirmed and legitimate housing company) and not OLX.

So these houses look like concentration camps

and these ones look like decent housing?


Something is wrong with your head - you need it checked

I already gave you a source that Lagos offers too little for too much in terms of housing.
https://qz.com/1017476/rent-is-cheap-in-johannesburg-but-expensive-in-lagos-according-to-new-study/

A good comparison of Lagos v Nairobi is shown below and contrary to what you guys have been yapping over, Nairobi's GDP is actually higher than Lagos.
https://versus.com/en/lagos-vs-nairobi
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:34pm On Jun 01, 2018
An also please explain to me this?

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 12:38pm On Jun 01, 2018
Daejoyoung:

Yeah and also in warri where l live you can get a nice 3 bedroom apartment for 300-360 thousand per annum. This is true around warri, and in jakpa, Ekpan to be precise. Though there are more business opportunities in Lagos and some of my family members may prefer Lagos for this reason, but l think I'd rather stay in warri than Lagos.
Also it is an oil based city and so the population of the middle class is considerably high.

I hope people like KiberaWalker aka NairobiWalker can see this.
Many middleclass Nigerians do not like living in Lagos. A lot of us prefer to live in other cities.

While growing up, my father vowed to us that the day his job takes him to Lagos, that same day he will resign that job.

In Kenya, the reverse is the case, everyone wants to live in Nairobi grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 12:46pm On Jun 01, 2018
NairobiWalker:


So these houses look like concentration camps

and these ones look like decent housing?


Something is wrong with your head - you need it checked

I already gave you a source that Lagos offers too little for too much in terms of housing.
https://qz.com/1017476/rent-is-cheap-in-johannesburg-but-expensive-in-lagos-according-to-new-study/

A good comparison of Lagos v Nairobi is shown below and contrary to what you guys have been yapping over, Nairobi's GDP is actually higher than Lagos.
https://versus.com/en/lagos-vs-nairobi

You yourself are just a shameless fellow.

I am showing you numerous decent houses with their prices! You cannot show me anything! Show me decent Kenyan houses and their price tags na. Is that so difficult for you to do?

Don't show me Langata which only a section of Kiberans numerically spillover into and outnumber. That's dumb.

Show me decent Nairobi houses and their price tags to prove your city. Is that too much to ask for? grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 12:51pm On Jun 01, 2018
Nowenuse:


You yourself are just a shameless fellow.

I am showing you numerous decent houses with their prices! You cannot show me anything! Show me decent Kenyan houses and their price tags na. Is that so difficult for you to do?

Don't show me Langata which only a section of Kiberans numerically spillover into and outnumber. That's dumb.

Show me decent Nairobi houses and their price tags to prove your city. Is that too much to ask for? grin

That is not Langata dude, that is Umoja, lol. Langata is better than all estates in Lagos.

Anyway since you're obsessed with shady online ads, let me give you one and see what your excuse will be this time.

Show me a house like this in Lagos that costs an equivalent of KES 5,500.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jaycent(m): 12:58pm On Jun 01, 2018
Nowenuse:


You yourself are just a shameless fellow.

I am showing you numerous decent houses with their prices! You cannot show me anything! Show me decent Kenyan houses and their price tags na. Is that so difficult for you to do?

Don't show me Langata which only a section of Kiberans numerically spillover into and outnumber. That's dumb.

Show me decent Nairobi houses and their price tags to prove your city. Is that too much to ask for? grin
Stop wasting ur time my brother they knw the truth but they will never accept the fact.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Daejoyoung: 12:59pm On Jun 01, 2018
MPSA:


What did you achieved out of that? NOTHING grin Absolutely NOTHING grin
We have black Africa's only noble price winner apart from Peace makers.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 1:07pm On Jun 01, 2018
TayserMahiri:


Well in that case it doesnt matter. Ever heard of destiny? Even if Obama was raised in Makoko, he would still have been American president so long his dad was Kenyan. The initial pre-condition was that he had to have a Kenyan father.
The preconditions to being an American president are 1.Being born in America. 2.Having at least one of your parents born in America. 3.Good education.
If Mr. Obama sn. had been in that boy's life, he would have messed it up like those of his other kids no one knows. Thank God for Obamas mother and her people. And yes, you mentioned destiny, is it your own destiny to be stuck on this Nigerian forum? Just joking.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 1:30pm On Jun 01, 2018
Nowenuse:


You yourself are just a shameless fellow.

I am showing you numerous decent houses with their prices! You cannot show me anything! Show me decent Kenyan houses and their price tags na. Is that so difficult for you to do?

Don't show me Langata which only a section of Kiberans numerically spillover into and outnumber. That's dumb.

Show me decent Nairobi houses and their price tags to prove your city. Is that too much to ask for? grin
You are asking for too much. He just posted you an average flat costing Ks5 500,000 and a blog claiming Nairobi has a higher GDP than Lagos and that Lagos has no international embassy. grin and the blind slumrat called the flat ks5500 instead of the listed price of ks5 500,000 in the advert

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 1:46pm On Jun 01, 2018
Nowenuse:


I am not trolling! Kenyan low income houses look like concentration camps yet so expensive.

Abuja main city is also very expensive like Nairobi. But as usual, Nigerian cities like I told you are designed for everyone irrespective of your pocket size.
You can enjoy a decent house in any Nigerian city no matter how small your pocket is.... You must not be forced into a congested multi-story building with thousands of people in terribly small rooms without ventilation and yet pay 10k shillings (35,000 naira) per month.

Before you argue with me, read this link below of your fellow Kenyan telling the true story of housing problem in Nairobi.

http://www.ghafla.com/crisis-how-housing-in-nairobi-has-become-a-nightmare-for-millions-of-city-dwellers/

Let us give Lagos a break and move to Abuja which is our capital city.
Look below at the different ranges of price of a single bedroom in Abuja in ascending order of cost. There are more expensive ones and cheaper ones.

Notice that all the houses look very decent no matter how cheap they are. Lower income people must not be dehumanized for the sake of making Nairobi impressive to foreigners. You people must stop living fake lives.

Cc TayserMahiri, Jay254, rvp201822

Note* These houses are from propertyPro.com (a confirmed and legitimate housing company) and not OLX.
You have the patience of Job.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 1:50pm On Jun 01, 2018
Nowenuse:


I hope people like KiberaWalker aka NairobiWalker can see this.
Many middleclass Nigerians do not like living in Lagos. A lot of us prefer to live in other cities.

While growing up, my father vowed to us that the day his job takes him to Lagos, that same day he will resign that job.

In Kenya, the reverse is the case, everyone wants to live in Nairobi grin

Well let's see,

Nairobi's population (City, not Metro) - 4M people = 9% of Kenya's population
Lagos' population = 21M = 12% of Nigeria's population. Indeed many middle class Nigerians don't love living in Lagos.

Anyway, Cities and towns outside Nairobi in Kenya are far better than cities and towns outside Lagos in Nigeria. Anyone would choose to live in Nakuru below rather than Onitsha below anytime.



Onitsha



Nakuru
[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ch166ydWwAA1oDp.jpg:large[/img]

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