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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 9:56pm On Jun 02, 2018
Mujtahida:

Shebi you always say he's not matured. Him no show you today. The boy has it in him. He's not the kind of midfielder that would give you long swinging passes. He's one that will give short crisp passes and needs a mobile CM to play with him.
He's not consistent that's the problem
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 9:57pm On Jun 02, 2018
EEGA:
It's not booting.

It's just that Rohr didn't select his best XI.

If Ebuehi,Etebo and Ogu started the game we would have controlled the midfield.

So,it was a problem of choice of players not booting.

If you say booting, how come three introduced players didn't take time to boot or gel?
i think it goes beyond team selection. It's an innate thing that needs to be corrected with our national teams and this attitude toward play in the early part of any match(first 20-30minutes) has span for over a decade and all our opponents knows this.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 9:57pm On Jun 02, 2018
kennysville:


No let Oga Icons4s cat h you with that statement o! Drop our only "weapon of mass destruction"? For what na?

No be all of una dey talk say him be the only attacking threat una get?

me am not one of those moses worshippers that feel he is not doing any wrong. Na the croatia match i dey wait. Let's hope moses won't fumble like he did in our first match against iran in 2014. Dude is a suspect and we are indulging him, attacking threat my foot.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by isan(m): 9:59pm On Jun 02, 2018
See as dem package obi as if he is the best midfielder in series A after four matches he is still poo
Goke7:

if Joel and onazi read this thread today, dem go cry grin chai even their family members when they read this thread, na to declare fasting and prayer against village people things o!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 10:00pm On Jun 02, 2018
klexycole:


He seemed to me that he appeared rude to our players. Might be the reason for the "booing." grin
can someone remind me the highlight of his game? He won't be happy about his performance.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Toylove: 10:01pm On Jun 02, 2018
And am I the only one who noticed the super Eagles were a suspect defending set piece today

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 10:02pm On Jun 02, 2018
lexyman:



he should be on the bench for tactical reasons ... so many times he has perfomed below average for a player of his pedigree , in GWG ... He only knows how to mesmerise african opponents .

Is Poland African? When a team is struggling, it needs a player that can wriggle his his way in!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by LieDetector(m): 10:02pm On Jun 02, 2018
All these while, we had thought our midfield would gel the moment Mikel plays, alas we all have been wrong. Having Joel and Onazi would be suicidal. Neither of them featured in our retrospective match with the Argies and yet we pulled those heroics. Rohr should just thank his stars. He has everything revealed to him now. It will only be foolish of him to persistently start either Joel or Onazi in competitive matches. Those guys should just turn to pundits. I heard the worst footballers actually make good pundits.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lexyman(m): 10:02pm On Jun 02, 2018
EEGA:
After the Dr Congo game you still went on to type this.

Is it not crystal clear that Ebuehi is miles ahead of Shehu?

have you considered other aspect .

Sheu is a versatile player , he can get better, and dont forget , his performance were top notch during the qualifier... not until recently when he started experiencing dwindling in form , but this is not his best
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Unlimited22: 10:04pm On Jun 02, 2018
Toylove:
And am I the only one who noticed the super Eagles were a suspect defending set piece today
This is usual na
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 10:05pm On Jun 02, 2018
He changed a wining team na. But he didn’t have faith in that new formula. I’m talking in respect to the Argy game. We should have been building from there.

Mujtahida:

What is killing our coach is not this so called average team bullshyte some trogs are crying up and down here. The coach is damn too conservative. He only tries new things when the situation is gone awry. He did it against Argentina, he was saved. Today again same thing.

Those players that played first half were basically chosen in accordance with the-you never - change - a - winning-team mantra. Winning team bawo?. I say the times have changed. This is not the age for mantras. This is not the age for formulas. You have to think and rethink your strategy.

Even with these set of players if the coach is a bit radical we can hurt teams and win games.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 10:08pm On Jun 02, 2018
Toylove:
And am I the only one who noticed the super Eagles were a suspect defending set piece today
not only u. In fact I was about typing this
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:10pm On Jun 02, 2018
Martz101:


mr Mujtahida, if you have dignity you wont even talk about this...you said we should keep moses on the bench until mikel get injured that he can't play from the wings

i told you 4-2-3-1 formation don't need the wingers to play as orthodox winger and can actually contain 3 number 10, i sighted arsenal and iwobi,ozil,mihkh.

iwobi proved me right today, because he played from the right and drift in, you lost my respect for going back to this today

Mikel played 10 today and was bellow par, mikel covered his ass and that was what me and icon04 was talking about

Oga, I am icon4s and not icon04.

Your analysis is spot on.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by joseph1013: 10:11pm On Jun 02, 2018
AIG07:
these were the posts I made 3 days ago on our midfield generally. That some folks here came for my head. Hope una don see am for yourself.

and finally, Ebuehi has finally silenced all nay sayers. Dude is shoulder above Shehu. Clean Tackles, well timed Interceptions, excellent positioning, good crossing and finally pace. It doesn't take so much time to Identify a gem.

I remember vividly when tbaba was saying all these. Tyrone is a well-schooled footballer.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 10:12pm On Jun 02, 2018
Joebie:
He changed a wining team na. But he didn’t have faith in that new formula. I’m talking in respect to the Argy game. We should have been building from there.

That was an experiment oo. And like you said he doesn't have faith in that system. If not for the absence of Ighalo and the two Moses do you think Rohr would have used that 3-5-2? He is stuck in that mantra.

But you know that that mantra can only work if you have all your players having the ability to play all tactical formations well yet you can see that some players flourish in one tactical set up more than the others but if you are stuck with the mantra you will press your players into the tactics rather than match specific players to the tactics.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 10:15pm On Jun 02, 2018
Icon4s:

Oga, I am icon4s and not icon04.
Your analysis is spot on.
lol sorry sir, correction noted
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 10:16pm On Jun 02, 2018
kennysville:


Playin mikel as a forward backfired. I think we got carried away because he did well with cameroon game in Uyo. Mikel needs to be restored to the deep lying playmaker he has always been for the last 15 years courtesy Mourinho. You cant teach an old dog new tricks.

I wouldnt say Mikel was poor in the first half. He was played wrongly tactically speaking. We can see that all the whatever stopped in the second half and we saw a more meaningful and purposeful ball distribution

mikel was played wrongly?? really?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 10:17pm On Jun 02, 2018
joseph1013:


I remember vividly when tbaba was saying all these. Tyrone is a well-schooled footballer.
you are absolutely right... Then it was arguement on who was better between Ebuehi and one guy like that Ehizubie(hope I got the spelling right). It's been long o. If I'm not mistaken, it should be before this thread was birthed.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by nelszx: 10:18pm On Jun 02, 2018
Joebie:
He changed a wining team na. But he didn’t have faith in that new formula. I’m talking in respect to the Argy game. We should have been building from there.

God bless you
My thoughts exactly
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 10:19pm On Jun 02, 2018
BascoVanVeli:


Which wing did u see Sterling playing? Sterling that was always body to body with the CBs.

let me educate you better, when the right back or the left back don't press forward and allow much pressure on himself from the opponent right back, the idle winger tend to move above him to the Central defender, that was what happened in the first half.

if you are very observant that stopped in the second galf
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kennysville(m): 10:19pm On Jun 02, 2018
Martz101:


mikel was played wrongly?? really?


Correct me if I am wrong but i saw him upfront with ighalo in the first half, hence he was played wrongly. Thats a classic repeat of Nigeria vs cameroon
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 10:22pm On Jun 02, 2018
Martz101:


mr Mujtahida, if you have dignity you wont even talk about this...you said we should keep moses on the bench until mikel get injured that he can't play from the wings

i told you 4-2-3-1 formation don't need the wingers to play as orthodox winger and can actually contain 3 number 10, i sighted arsenal and iwobi,ozil,mihkh.

iwobi proved me right today, because he played from the right and drift in, you lost my respect for going back to this today

Mikel played 10 today and was bellow par, mikel covered his ass and that was what me and icon04 was talking about
See I'm very flexible in my thinking. The main thrust of my argument has always been play Iwobi from the middle. I only conceded to Iwobi playing as a sub to Mikel cos it was pointed out that Mikel is already doing excellently well as regards whatever we want iwobi to do.

Iwobi kept on drifting into the middle cos that's where his natural instincts lie. he later abandoned the wings(your so called inverted abi false winger) and stationed himself in the middle to the extent that the commentator said Iwobi has been effective (yes he used that word) playing centrally. At a point he was deep in the heart of the midfield in front of the defenders. I told you that Iwobi needs space in his head to flourish. No be to dey hug the lines.

Argue it from morning till night it has become clear to everyone that watched the match that Iwobi flourishes as a midfielder not any yeye inverted abi false winger. SE is not Arsenal. Rohr has been using the Wenger template for Iwobi. It can never work in the SE.

Forget about respecting me. I didn't come here to garner respect. Let's discuss football.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 10:22pm On Jun 02, 2018
Nna, I weak for them o. To me, Uzoho was the least of our problems today. And you're spot on about the next match. He has to start ... the more he plays at this level, the better confidence and experience he would develop and that will help him cut down on mistakes.

I trust him more than either Ezenwa or Akpeyi.


O pari

Joebie:
Una wan blame Uzoho? Why didn’t we score more than 1 goal. I said pages back that our problem will not be in the gk department, but our forwards will need to deliver.
Uzoho had an above average game. And that’s great for an opponent like England playing at home. He will get even better before the WC.
Expect him again in goal for the full 90 mins against Czech


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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 10:23pm On Jun 02, 2018
I have more faith in 3-5-2. Again we should try Simy and Ighalo in a two-prong attack. Iwobi as AM. Mikel as CM, Ndidi as DM. Idowu and Ebuehi as LWB and RWB respectively. Any 3 of Ogu, Balogun, Ekong and Omeruo as our CBs. And We’d be just fine.



Mujtahida:

That was an experiment oo. And like you said he doesn't have faith in that system. If not for the absence of Ighalo and the two Moses do you think Rohr would have used that 3-5-2? He is stuck in that mantra.

But you know that that mantra can only work if you have all your players having the ability to play all tactical formations well yet you can see that some players flourish in one tactical set up more than the others but if you are stuck with the mantra you will press your players into the tactics rather than match specific players to the tactics.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:23pm On Jun 02, 2018
mank1234:


When it comes to reading games and statistics you're spot on.

Well, we are still learning. wink
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 10:24pm On Jun 02, 2018
AIG07:
these were the posts I made 3 days ago on our midfield generally. That some folks here came for my head. Hope una don see am for yourself.

and finally, Ebuehi has finally silenced all nay sayers. Dude is shoulder above Shehu. Clean Tackles, well timed Interceptions, excellent positioning, good crossing and finally pace. It doesn't take so much time to Identify a gem.
But Ebuehi is too soft na. Na achebo him be. Him resemble person way breeze go blow. Shehu is strong and understands the African game.
Shehu is our best rb. It doesn't matter if Ebuehi played well. He didn't play well against Serbia. Injury is not an excuse.
Rohr will RIGHTLY start Shehu in the WC because Ebuehi is weak. Na technical ability we go chop??
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 10:25pm On Jun 02, 2018
EEGA:
It's not booting.

It's just that Rohr didn't select his best XI.

If Ebuehi,Etebo and Ogu started the game we would have controlled the midfield.

So,it was a problem of choice of players not booting.

If you say booting, how come three introduced players didn't take time to boot or gel?

you don't know what you are talking about, nobody on here will advise Rohr to start with Etebo and ogu, the team have some kinda psychological issue, i don't believe is the players.

this same thing happened in the Nigeria game we won against Cameroon also in algeria,Argentina,Poland and Serbia.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Martz101: 10:26pm On Jun 02, 2018
Mujtahida:

Shebi you always say he's not matured. Him no show you today. The boy has it in him. He's not the kind of midfielder that would give you long swinging passes. He's one that will give short crisp passes and needs a mobile CM to play with him.

but you wAnted him on the bench to come in when mikel is tayad
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 10:27pm On Jun 02, 2018
Actually, if you check my posts, you'll see that I spoke up for Ezenwa after the Cameroun game. While many folks here were trying to crucify him for conceding the penalty, I reminded everyone who cared to listed that the man also saved our brushes on several occasions in that same game.

What made me lost confidence in Ezenwa was all the howlers he made in the return match against Algeria. In that match, he flapped so many crosses and made a few elementary school errors that I didn't expect at this level. That's when I totally wrote him off sad


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Odunayaw:
Would you have said so if it was Ezenwa? I remember he saved something of this sort against Cameroon @ uyo
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 10:29pm On Jun 02, 2018
Sincerely I wish we could exchange Aina, Onazi, J. Obi for other players outside the 30. e.g Duru, Azubuike, and Esiti respectively

Jk

Icon79:
Nope. I think the two players to be axed are still Mikel Agu and Ola Aina. Nothing has changed. However, in Russia, I would prefer a DM combo of Ndidi and either Ogu or Etebo. Ogenyi Onazi and J. Obi really failed my hands today.


O pari

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 10:30pm On Jun 02, 2018
grin

Kai

edi287:

But Ebuehi is too soft na. Na achebo him be. Him resemble person way breeze go blow. Shehu is strong and understands the African game.
Shehu is our best rb. It doesn't matter if Ebuehi played well. He didn't play well against Serbia. Injury is not an excuse.
Rohr will RIGHTLY start Shehu in the WC because Ebuehi is weak. Na technical ability we go chop??
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 10:34pm On Jun 02, 2018
Joebie:
Sincerely I wish we could exchange Aina, Onazi, J. Obi for other players outside the 30. e.g Duru, Azubuike, and Esiti respectively

Jk




So una eye dun dey open abi, I have always maintained that Azubuike Okechukwu is a better player than those pretenders but tbaba1234 and Icon4s were against me for saying that. Im just Happy u guys are now seeing what Michael and I saw ages ago.

Azubuike made our midfield thick at the Olympics and he has been the best midfielder amongst our midfield contingents that ply their trade in the Turkish league.

Agu and Onazi are bench warmers in this same league, yet they are always picked ahead of Azu Okey by Rohr. For reasons best known to him, he also prefers those two to Esiti and Agbo. Just smh bkus Rohr is gradually losing my confidence KPOM

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