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Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by tommysparks: 9:18pm On May 31, 2018 |
brocab:the person I quoted said Mary is dead I asked her for the Bible portion where she died and you are here blabbing epistles. SMH....simple question you can't answer |
Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by Yale9(m): 9:22pm On May 31, 2018 |
tommysparks:these protestants are blatant fools in the biblical context of "foolishness". |
Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 11:42pm On May 31, 2018 |
Not blabbing epistles, supporting, I had answered it correctly, we live and die-If it is so simple-then it shows you are ever dumb or you haven't realized Mary's flesh is dead and gone with the wind! This is how simple it really is, Humans live and die, Mary lived and she died, her flesh is dead! Who else lived and died, the apostles, Jesus lived and died and rose again. Mary isn't part of the Trinity body-she was human-she had responsibilities, she had other Children and she needed to take care of them! She didn't ascend into Heaven like Jesus or Elijah. Where did Mary go after Acts in the bible, it's common sense to guess she died naturally, we only can believe her spirit lives on with the Lord.. tommysparks: 1 Like |
Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 11:53pm On May 31, 2018 |
Modern day Catholic's are foolish Pharisees who seeked after Church tradition, while the Protestants are the modern day Berean who studies the written truth! {Acts 17:11} "Fools are those who don't test themselves in the Word of God, but bow down before statues to remind them heaven exist. Fools are those that pray through Mary and the saints believing the dead are spiritual mentors who can bring them closer to God. Protestants are blatant fools only to you-in the biblical context because protestants believe {Matthew 6:6} But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. Yale9: |
Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by Yale9(m): 10:07am On Jun 01, 2018 |
brocab:aint you tired of being too stewpid... u're even more useless than that pagan gathering u attend every sunday that you call a "church" |
Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by Yale9(m): 10:09am On Jun 01, 2018 |
brocab:disgraceful |
Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by Yale9(m): 11:55am On Jun 01, 2018 |
brocab:i don't answer to stupidity or fallacy.. someone who thinks "church building" and "church" are the same thing aint ripe for any form of beneficial argument.... talk less of the fact that the said person erronously believes that Catholics worship and pray to Mary. |
Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by tommysparks: 2:17pm On Jun 01, 2018 |
brocab:are you so sure that she died? Where is her tomb or are you trying to tell me that if it was not recorded by one of those who wrote down things that happened before during and after Christ did not write it down then it did not happen? |
Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by Nobody: 8:52pm On Jun 01, 2018 |
tommysparks:if Mary did not die, it could have been recorded in the bible as all the people who didn't die were written down.Jesus spoke to peter how peter would die. A prophecy on Mary was given, yet no hint on how Mary would not die. Luke 2:35 (Yea, a sword shall pierce through thy own soul also,) that the thoughts of many hearts may be revealed. Jesus made no hint about mary not dying neither did the apostles. It is evident that such speculation was only formulated after the death of the apostles to promote idolatry. If you said Mary did not die it means mary was not a human being the burden of proof lies on you. As it is well known Mary was a sinner and a human like others and death is the natural fate of all men. Can you point out any prophecy about Mary not dying? Why will such important event be left out by both old and new testament? Of what use is it to the church? Why didn't the letters of the apostles mention it? 1 Like |
Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by Nobody: 9:24pm On Jun 01, 2018 |
Roman catholism never existed during the apostles era. There was nothing like mother church if there was the Jerusalem church would be. Peter was never a pope,Jesus never call him a pope neither did Paul in all his letter addressed him as pope or other apostles. Mary was not mentioned as having any special role in the church non of the or letters of the apostles ever mentioned it. Mary was never a mediatrix as such word is a recent conjecture with no bearing with the both the Jews or the christian community. Mary need a saviour just like every human. Mary was of the seed of Adam and therefore bears the sin nature of Adam. Baptism is for those who has believe in Christ not babies as there is no record of babies been baptised. All these and lots more are recent addition and of course the bible will easily have exposed but the roman catholic church has replaced biblical authority with unchristian traditions. Matthew 15:3 But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition? Matthew 15:6 And honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition. Mark 7:8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do. Mark 7:9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition. Mark 7:13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye. 1 Like |
Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 10:04pm On Jun 01, 2018 |
This is the answer you should be asking yourself, if she isn't dead, then why are you praying to her as if she is! And why pray "TO" Mary and the saints in heaven, if they didn't die? Shouldn't you be praying "FOR" them, and not "TO" them, since you believe they still live? Next question where are all the tombs-name all the apostles that had tombs? tommysparks: |
Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 10:43pm On Jun 01, 2018 |
Don't we all love it, when we hear the Catholic's are back tracking their beliefs, Catholic's have always pronounce their Church building is the first Church that belongs to Christ, and when questioned, they find ways to hide away from their unscripted lies, lying amongst each other casting their lots with whom they pray too, by way of twisting their beliefs against the Word of God. Prayer to Mary, Queen of Heaven Catholic Online Prayers Share Queen of heaven, rejoice. Alleluia. The Son whom you were privileged to bear, Alleluia, has risen as he said, Alleluia. Pray to God for us, Alleluia. Rejoice and be glad, Virgin Mary, Alleluia. For the Lord has truly risen, Alleluia. O God, it was by the Resurrection of your Son, our Lord Jesus Christ, that you brought joy to the world. Grant that through the intercession of the Virgin Mary, his Mother, we may attain the joy of eternal life. Through Christ, our Lord. Amen. You call it stupidity or fallacy but yet it is you that chooses to lie against the Word of God-this prayer is common to the Catholic's all over the world-Catholic's pray "Mary Mother of God, Queen of heaven" grant thru the intercession of the Virgin Mary-you are praying {asking} Mary to help you, gain eternal life with Jesus. None of this is scriptural-it is not written in the Word of God, this is your Church tradition telling you to ask Mary to save you, this is not the tradition the apostles taught you to follow! Would you agree that the video below is lying to the world? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tif9M76ph0w Yale9: |
Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 11:19pm On Jun 01, 2018 |
How disgracefully-ok motor mouth, give us your views, how Mary's story should be written? Yale9: |
Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 11:22pm On Jun 01, 2018 |
If any other Church deals with paganism, then obviously that Church has membership with the Catholic Church. And sadly for you, my Church is directed to pray Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy Name, thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven, 'Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever and ever. Amen.. While your Church through tradition is directed to bow before Mary, and pray, Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen.. Yale9: |
Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by Yale9(m): 10:19am On Jun 02, 2018 |
Who has ever wondered why protestatntism is seemingly the problem of christianity and the hallmark of the 21st century societal hypocrisy... well, here on this thread we all have a specimen. 1 Like |
Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 1:21pm On Jun 02, 2018 |
Isn't great, that Protestantism is your problem to Christianity and protestants are about to put you back in that box you once came out from! Isn't it great you live in the 21st century, enjoying life as it stands, and still you have room to winch about every other believer that speaks the truth, about you. Yale9: |
Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by Yale9(m): 1:47am On Jun 03, 2018 |
There seems to be a better illustration on what foolishness entails. Many thanks to our protestant brother. |
Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by tommysparks: 10:49am On Jun 03, 2018 |
solite3:when you talk about important events have you asked yourself why an event as important as the last supper all 4 Gospel writers did not know the name of the owner of that house or why did they forget to mention where the donkey used in the triumphant entry was kept or whether it was returned. |
Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by tommysparks: 11:05am On Jun 03, 2018 |
brocab:we pray for Mary to intercede for us, if you say we pray to Mary then that is your problem. You can continue in your ignorance. Catholic Church has lasted hundreds of years and your recently acquired ideologies can not prevail over the Catholic faith. 1 Like |
Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by Yale9(m): 12:43pm On Jun 03, 2018 |
tommysparks:spot on! His soul is so lost. |
Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by Yale9(m): 12:50pm On Jun 03, 2018 |
It wouldn't have been a problem if he was innocently one of the protestant minorities, minding his business and remaining shallow to himself ALONE. But the dude is ironically lost in an euphoria of ignorance of what is left of the true undivided global church which is the Catholic Church. Where did the show of stupidity by alleging "praying to Mary", "Idol worship" and all these nonsense he is saying come from? |
Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by Yale9(m): 12:55pm On Jun 03, 2018 |
How can I belong to a quasi-christian social gathering, devoid of purpose and direction..... and still compare the joke I belong to, to the Catholic Church. Why are people stupid? |
Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by Nobody: 1:21pm On Jun 03, 2018 |
tommysparks:Because those things you mentioned was not important. It was recorded that the bodies of the saints who died before the coming of Christ were resurrected yet Mary's assumption was not recorded in fact nothing special about Mary apart from giving birth to Christ was written. Wake up from the deception. God does not work by crowd or age neither by name but by the truth of his word. 2 Likes |
Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by Yale9(m): 4:25pm On Jun 03, 2018 |
solite3:Mary is every shade of "special" As a christian, you're a special person cos u believe in and follow Christ. Talk less of someone who gave birth to this same Christ we're talking about. Everything about Mary is special. |
Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 1:20am On Jun 04, 2018 |
It is a knowing fact that the Catholic's pray "TO" Mary and the saints! But also it's a knowing fact, the Catholic's lie under confession. I wouldn't be asking "FOR" Mary and the saints "TO" intercede for me, If I was to pray "FOR" anybody, I would be asking the Lord "TO" give them the things that is needed-heal them or bring salvation to them. If I was to pray "TO" anybody, I would pray to the Father {Matthew 6:6} The Word of God say's pray "FOR" the living, {1 Timothy 2-3} "First of all, I ask that you pray "FOR" all people. Ask God "TO" bless them and give them what they need. And give thanks. You should pray "FOR" rulers and for all who have authority. Pray "FOR" these leaders so that we can live quiet and peaceful lives—lives full of devotion to God and respect for him. This is good and pleases God our Savior. We pray "FOR" each other, already living, Mary nor the saint's are living, we pray "TO" the living Father in Jesus's name. {John 14:13-14} “And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Son may bring glory to the Father. You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.” So you see, I pray in Jesus name, I don't pray "FOR" Mary, she doesn't need my prayers, she had already finished her race, she's in heaven, now it's my turn to finish my race, I need the living to pray "FOR" me, visa versa, we need the encouragement to stay on course. Here we go again Catholic's claim the Catholic Church has lasted hundreds of years-and no-one can prevail against the Catholic faith, again another Catholic is bragging how long the Church stood, the Vatican made of brick and mortar is just an old building! Spirituality the Vatican is demonic, we just need to see the insides of it, that tells us the story.. It's common sense to know the Catholic Church isn't the first Church! This video may shock you, actually this Church stood and still stands before your Church existed! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spPeRpAegF0 tommysparks: |
Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 2:22am On Jun 04, 2018 |
Yale9:Open your eye's, and stop lying to yourself, It's a well knowing fact where it came from "The Catholic Church, we just need to read the news, or watch video's of Catholic's bowing and kissing the feet of heavenly statues, look at Peter's right toes, it's worn off because it was rubbed off and kissed by Catholic's. You can't hide what is already out there, you may have a baby Jesus or a Mary statue in your home, you may have a necklace around your neck, with St whoever? But you know, you, yourself bow down before these heavenly images, either way.. It's a fact about the Catholic's protecting their Church and everything inside it! You wear the images the Church brings upon the people, and you do what the Church does.. All I have done was bring to you the truth, the truth you have denied all along-and this truth is the Word of God! Yale9: |
Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 2:27am On Jun 04, 2018 |
I have asked this very same question about you, why is it, that you believe you are stupid? Yale9: |
Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 3:02am On Jun 04, 2018 |
It's always the same old story-because we protestants don't focus on Mary the way the Catholic's expect us to do, we have lost our first faith, "No one is against Mary, through Mary's faith she was chosen to give birth to Christ, praise the Lord she was chosen, Mary needed a savour' just like we all do! Mary is the earthly Mother of Jesus, but she wasn't worthy to be called divine, she's human, the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit is divine. I see everything was planned from the beginning, I see Mary as my Sister in Christ, same as I see the Saints are also my brothers and Sisters in Christ, they all played a role, God wrote the plan from the beginning concerning the scriptures, I also see Mary and the Saints before me, they finished there race, now it's my turn to finish mine. If it wasn't for the Holy Spirit who gave Mary and the Saints wisdom and knowledge about the heavenly realm, we wouldn't be here today knowing what we know now, the same Holy Spirit is working in our lives, teaching us today the wisdom and knowledge He gave the apostles back then.. It was God who brought salvation to us, I pray and I thank God, He saves, He gives life, and we live for Him, there's no other name above heaven on earth or under the earth, other then He! His Name Is Above Every Name" {Philippians 2:1-11} "So it's not that we don't recognise Mary nor the Saints, "We do, but they came before us, now it's our turn to finish the course they started, and our Children's Children may finish their race after we have gone. Yale9: |
Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by Yale9(m): 4:56pm On Jun 04, 2018 |
Protestants' point of view is merely a point of view.. The Catholic Church is all encompassing. The belief in God the father almighty almighty The belief in the Jesus Christ our saviour The belief in intercession of the angels and countless saints which includes mary The belief in the holy bible The belief in the holy spirit The belief in the 7 sacraments (baptism, eucharist, confirmation, penance, order, matrimony and anointing of the sick) The belief in the holy mass The belief in sacramentals Everything ORIGINALLY related to the undiluted tradition of the foremost christians which the church is founded upon. So, If protestants choose to seive out some and find an easy way to christianity. So be it. There's nothing protestants believe in that catholics do not. Catholic is simply the mother of all churches. Hence why it believes in what protestants believe in and so much more.. the catholic church is a very deep entity. Lets all expect an idiot to quote and show stupidity 1 Like |
Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by Yale9(m): 5:00pm On Jun 04, 2018 |
The verity of what some ignorant people call "truth" can be interesting. |
Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by brocab: 10:22pm On Jun 04, 2018 |
{Matthew 7:5-6} Yale9 hypocrite! First take the beam out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye. Do not give dogs what is holy; do not throw your pearls before swine. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and then turn and tear you to pieces. |
Re: Pentecostal Getting Married To A Catholic by Yale9(m): 10:55pm On Jun 04, 2018 |
Lame. So lame. Brain. No brain. A very big pity |
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