ClassicMcGee:


Yeah, i know... But do i only need to learn java to a developer?

It depends. If you want to make it very simple & straightforward, No, but if it will and advanced app accesible in web or mobile yes. That idea doesn't look heavy on the surface though. Java basics should that fine.

CodeTemplar:
It depends. If you want to make it very simple & straightforward, No, but if it will and advanced app accesible in web or mobile yes. That idea doesn't look heavy on the surface though. Java basics should that fine.

So you mean if it's a simple app, i only need java basics?

ClassicMcGee:


So you mean if it's a simple app, i only need java basics?

I mean u need the basics to atleast start writing logic. The program or business logic handles the main core decisions.

ClassicMcGee:


So you mean if it's a simple app, i only need java basics?

No, java basics can help you have the skeletal parts running. Just simple test unit.

Hello guys I'm also a beginner to Programming and I've been Learning Java for a while now.
I only just discovered Java How to Program I think it's 9th edition too. CodeTemplar thanks for your input on this thread.

Ivix:
Hello guys I'm also a beginner to Programming and I've been Learning Java for a while now.
I only just discovered Java How to Program I think it's 9th edition too. CodeTemplar thanks for your input on this thread.

Can you share the link please?

CodeTemplar:
No, java basics can help you have the skeletal parts running. Just simple test unit.

I'm sorry, i don't understand but i'm willing to learn.

ClassicMcGee:


Can you share the link please?

Torrent isn't a normal link kind of system. It is a peer-2-peer sharing or caching system spread accross the globe. Google "how to use torrent to download files".
Most things on torrent are infringing copyright as they are pirated.

CodeTemplar:
Torrent isn't a normal link kind of system. It is a peer-2-peer sharing or caching system spread accross the globe. Google "how to use torrent to download files".
Most things on torrent are infringing copyright as they are pirated.

I think i've a lot to learn

CodeTemplar:
Torrent isn't a normal link kind of system. It is a peer-2-peer sharing or caching system spread accross the globe. Google "how to use torrent to download files".
Most things on torrent are infringing copyright as they are pirated.

I think i've a lot to learn

Ivix:
Hello guys I'm also a beginner to Programming and I've been Learning Java for a while now.
I only just discovered Java How to Program I think it's 9th edition too. CodeTemplar thanks for your input on this thread.

And i think there's an 11th edition of this same book... Java how to program 11th edition(early objects)

ClassicMcGee:


Can you share the link please?

Sorry I didn't download it myself. Someone shared the PDF with me. Try searching for it online I'm sure you'll find it. I also recommend it, it's very good.

Ivix:


Sorry I didn't download it myself. Someone shared the PDF with me. Try searching for it online I'm sure you'll find it. I also recommend it, it's very good.

please can you send the pdf to my email? Mcgeehayjay@gmail.com

i don't know if i'm allowed to post my contacts.

ClassicMcGee:


please can you send the pdf to my email? Mcgeehayjay@gmail.com

i don't know if i'm allowed to post my contacts.

Hello good morning. The file is about 25MB it can't send via email. Sorry.

Ivix:


Hello good morning. The file is about 25MB it can't send via email. Sorry.

you got it via torrent too?

ClassicMcGee:


you got it via torrent too?

No. I collected it from someone's computer.

Ivix:

No. I collected it from someone's computer.

Ivix:

No. I collected it from someone's computer.

i think i'll to learn that torrent stuff.
how easy is it to learn java? From your experience.

ClassicMcGee:




i think i'll to learn that torrent stuff.

how easy is it to learn java? From your experience.

I found it tough at the beginning but with time I'm beginning to understand it now. My advice for you is to properly understand the concepts - don't cram try and understand it well - and also master all the repetition statements and selection statements very well.

Take time to watch tutorials on YouTube, visit stackoverflow, Reddit java help section, w3resourse etc. Gather other Java materials, dedicate time and solve lots of problems.

Good luck.

Ivix:


I found it tough at the beginning but with time I'm beginning to understand it now. My advice for you is to properly understand the concepts - don't cram try and understand it well - and also master all the repetition statements and selection statements very well.

Take time to watch tutorials on YouTube, visit stackoverflow, Reddit java help section, w3resourse etc. Gather other Java materials, dedicate time and solve lots of problems.

Good luck.

noted!
thanks bro...

ClassicMcGee:


please can you send the pdf to my email? Mcgeehayjay@gmail.com

i don't know if i'm allowed to post my contacts.

https://www.pdfdrive.net/java-how-to-program-d29026886.html

@thread Java is a tightly typed language unlike python. Both have their strengths but I will always recommend Java to a beginner.

Python abstracts so many foundational concepts from beginners leading them to type dirty (buggy) code later on.
This is just my opinion, however.

Good luck.

ClassicMcGee:
why please? And what should i go for?

in my own case i first tried java then i left it learnt php and mastered it before i came back to learn java
and i found learning java very easy

shineforthmedia:

in my own case i first tried java then i left it learnt php and mastered it before i came back to learn java
and i found learning java very easy

wow! What made you abandon it in the first place?

onwards:


https://www.pdfdrive.net/java-how-to-program-d29026886.html

@thread Java is a tightly typed language unlike python. Both have their strengths but I will always recommend Java to a beginner.

Python abstracts so many foundational concepts from beginners leading them to type dirty (buggy) code later on.
This is just my opinion, however.

Good luck.

Thanks a lot sir! You just saved me a lot of stress...
i really appreciate!

I'm still in the dilenma: PYTHON VS JAVA...

ClassicMcGee:


Thanks a lot sir! You just saved me a lot of stress...
i really appreciate!

I'm still in the dilenma: PYTHON VS JAVA...

I an not a pythonista but I may drop one or tips then I recommend just any language if as you stated earlier harming yourself with a programming lang for implementations of ideas and school work is your goal. The most important thing you need is to have basic programming ideas like variables, constants, selection(if, if...else, and switch), then also looping(for, while, do...while).
To me java is a deep language that is worth putting years into. If done properly it will position you for web programming, mobile programming, desktop, enterprise programming etc
plus it can help start writimg apps in good time. To me java is in top 2 language. It is always java vs [another language] considering comparison of general purpose languages.

CodeTemplar:
I an not a pythonista but I may drop one or tips then I recommend just any language if as you stated earlier harming yourself with a programming lang for implementations of ideas and school work is your goal. The most important thing you need is to have basic programming ideas like variables, constants, selection(if, if...else, and switch), then also looping(for, while, do...while).
To me java is a deep language that is worth putting years into. If done properly it will position you for web programming, mobile programming, desktop, enterprise programming etc
plus it can help start writimg apps in good time. To me java is in top 2 language. It is always java vs [another language] considering comparison of general purpose languages.

To go really deep into java and be a worldclass developer: a very good understanding of algorithms, data structures and some adv maths(probably will be taught in school)... I'm just trying to lay a good foundation before then.

CodeTemplar:
I mean u need the basics to atleast start writing logic. The program or business logic handles the main core decisions.

Can i learn enough to start earning(no matter how small) in a year?

ClassicMcGee:


Can i learn enough to start earning(no matter how small) in a year?

I doubt that especially as you are a student joggling it with studies. Though I never can tell your learning speed.

ClassicMcGee:


To go really deep into java and be a worldclass developer: a very good understanding of algorithms, data structures and some adv maths(probably will be taught in school)... I'm just trying to lay a good foundation before then.

Is Java programming part of your course schedule? If yes then learning it will aid those things you mentioned.

CodeTemplar:
Is Java programming part of your course schedule? If yes then learning it will aid those things you mentioned.

yes it's part of our schedule...

CodeTemplar:
Yes you can. Though to go real deep into java requires work you can start with it. I did and I am not regretting it. Thanks.

I stumbled on an HTML tutorial yesterday, i spent 10hours yesterday and learnt the whole stuff!
it was fascinating how easily i could create things, i've started HTML5.
Am i on the right track?

ClassicMcGee:


I stumbled on an HTML tutorial yesterday, i spent 10hours yesterday and learnt the whole stuff!
it was fascinating how easily i could create things, i've started HTML5.
Am i on the right track?

Y e s !

Ivix:
Hello guys I'm also a beginner to Programming and I've been Learning Java for a while now.
I only just discovered Java How to Program I think it's 9th edition too. CodeTemplar thanks for your input on this thread.

contact me

I have something for you

ClassicMcGee:


I stumbled on an HTML tutorial yesterday, i spent 10hours yesterday and learnt the whole stuff!
it was fascinating how easily i could create things, i've started HTML5.
Am i on the right track?

Would you mind telling me the tutorial or how I can get it??