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Re: The Mental Disorder Called Atheism. Must Read For All Nairaland Christians by Butterflyleo: 5:06pm On Jun 03, 2018 |
dalaman: It means you FIRST had a belief in some level or some standard. So which do you have? 1 Like |
Re: The Mental Disorder Called Atheism. Must Read For All Nairaland Christians by LosVikingos: 5:09pm On Jun 03, 2018 |
hopefulLandlord: Hala Madrid ![]() The way I see religion is so close to yours, but I am not an atheist I am not an extremist, because I have read across so many religions, Why?, because I wanted to be sure if I am in the right path.(Muslim) However, I realized an herbalist can be better than a Muslim, or a Christian. In my view, religion is trying to teach people a good behavior to make everything good, but that is not the case today. Religion and Hypocrites and like 5&6 You can be a good person without being a Christian or a Muslim or be in any religious group sha. what will happen hereafter is what I am trying to get exactly. Because something in me keeps telling me something actually is going to happen. (my view) I believe in hereafter, I believe there can be an unseen forces whether as one or many controlling us. (just my view) But, I agreed that neither Bible nor Qur'an is free of contradiction. They were written by people who claimed it is by inspiration from above. But still yet I am addicted to my religion, and I am ready to bear the outcome. However, I can achieve what you expect from me as a human, everybody is my friend when it comes to religion and everything else. ![]() ____________________________________________________ Even though I don't think anything can change me, I am still open for discussion from anybody from any religion. But note that whatever you see me write up there is my opinion only.. I can't prove it to anybody, but I believe in it, nd I'm fine with it. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Mental Disorder Called Atheism. Must Read For All Nairaland Christians by dalaman: 5:09pm On Jun 03, 2018 |
Butterflyleo: Morality isn't set in stone simply means it evolves and it is not fixed. I made a mistake, wanted to say it means it is not preterdermined and it is changeable. We have rapist, poachers, human right abusers in every society and they are immorality people. They are NOT doing what is moral according to the laid out moral principles of those societiesthat is why they are outlawed and seen as criminals. What exactly is your point? That morality doesn't evolve or what? What is your point?
You are just dancing and chasing your tail for nothing. As long as you are in Saudi Arabia you CANNOT rear pigs legally. It is immoral to rear pigs in Saudi Arabia but it is legal to do that in Texas. All this your empty talk as no nearing on what am saying. You can not rear pigs in Saudi Arabia legally and morally because it is against the laid out moral laws of the land. You can do it in Texas because it is not against the laid down moral laws of the land. Anything else you say is unnecessary commentary that has nothing to do with what am saying. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Mental Disorder Called Atheism. Must Read For All Nairaland Christians by dalaman: 5:10pm On Jun 03, 2018 |
Butterflyleo: Which standard do I need to have to show a person that professes love to another but is totally failing at it? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Mental Disorder Called Atheism. Must Read For All Nairaland Christians by Butterflyleo: 5:18pm On Jun 03, 2018 |
dalaman: You are still not getting it. People make the law effective or not. The reason why we have criminals is simply because PEOPLE SEEK THEIR OWN INDIVIDUAL LEVELS OF MORALITY which despite it being against the moral laws of the society, THEY STILL GO AGAINST IT FOR SAKE OF THEIR INDIVIDUAL COMFORT. I am not arguing against morality but showing you how easily people personalise it thereby making it subjective and thus making them criminals. My point is that subjective morality is individualized and when push comes to shove would not care about the moral laws of the land but if they can be circumvented or taken advantage of, then their comfort INDIVIDUALLY comes first and not the laws of whatever land. Talking about Saudi or no Saudi I am not arguing about what can or cannot be done there, I simply showed you how subjective morality holds no foundation because it is selfish and self determinable depending on ones needs and how pressing they are. You are actually the one confusing yourself in all this. Your definition for subjective morality is wider than you originally thought and the mere fact that it is subjective clearly shows you that IT IS PERSONAL and not necessarily societal. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Mental Disorder Called Atheism. Must Read For All Nairaland Christians by Butterflyleo: 5:18pm On Jun 03, 2018 |
dalaman: You need to first have a standard that would show how he wouldn't fail. So which do you have? 2 Likes |
Re: The Mental Disorder Called Atheism. Must Read For All Nairaland Christians by hopefulLandlord: 5:20pm On Jun 03, 2018 |
johnydon22: True! 1 Like |
Re: The Mental Disorder Called Atheism. Must Read For All Nairaland Christians by hopefulLandlord: 5:42pm On Jun 03, 2018 |
LosVikingos: This sounds fair. Afterlife belief was one of the most difficult things to let go of on my journey to atheism cuz its been used throughout my life till then to cope with certain things especially the death of loved ones. While I was a theist I lost my grandmother and she was one of the few humans I knew REALLY loved me and wasn't expecting anything in return for it. her love for me felt so real, so selfless that I can't gather coherent words to do it enough justice. I lost her as a teenager and I used the belief that I'd see her again when I die too to cope with the loss. I've also lost a few people too but my grandmother's hurt the most When I dumped all religious belief including afterlife it was like my grandmother dying again! like she wasn't really dead before but became dead when I stopped believing I would see her again. it felt as though my dumping religion was what actually killed her! it hurt me for years and made my atheism much harder to accept but I'm over it now I've also channelled my lack of belief in afterlife for something good, believing it all ends here has made me appreciate my loved ones more, thank them and tell them I love them, that I would be there for them if they need me and I'm capable of helping them. This gives a reciprocal effect as they also (try to) treat me the same way and makes our relationship a tight knit and loving extended family Yes afterlife belief is something I very well understand the most of all religious ideologies cuz most people use it to cope with so many things so seeing someone say they feel there's something after this life makes me empathise with them 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Mental Disorder Called Atheism. Must Read For All Nairaland Christians by MuttleyLaff: 5:44pm On Jun 03, 2018 |
budaatum:Ogbele ooo This chap is grasping at straws. One is a figment of the imagination, the other is reality One has nothing on you, the other has all of you One doesnt know anything about you, the other knows everything about you. One is fantasy, the other is real budaatum, you're comparing apples with oranges mate 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Mental Disorder Called Atheism. Must Read For All Nairaland Christians by bobowaja(m): 5:54pm On Jun 03, 2018 |
Butterflyleo:Why don't you quote the whole thing? You see why people call you an hypocrite and lying master? SMH 7 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: The Mental Disorder Called Atheism. Must Read For All Nairaland Christians by budaatum: 5:54pm On Jun 03, 2018 |
MuttleyLaff:No I am not! And stop setting up a strawman argument no one is having with anyone. It is irrelevant in this discussion whether one sees either as a figment of the imagination, nor does it matter. One can still learn from either, or not. Moreso if one claims to have learnt from a thing, one should expect to be judged by the standard that thing sets! And oneself does not have to abide by the standards that thing sets! 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Mental Disorder Called Atheism. Must Read For All Nairaland Christians by MuttleyLaff: 5:57pm On Jun 03, 2018 |
budaatum:You're mate! Yes, you are You started a strawman, I am wriggling out from Why do you care what Jesus taught? What's it got to do with you? Why mention Jesus and His teachings, to score cheap points if you dont believe in Him, dont believe He exists, dont believe in who He is? Only the Janus-faced pull stunts like that 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Mental Disorder Called Atheism. Must Read For All Nairaland Christians by flamingREED(m): 5:57pm On Jun 03, 2018 |
HardMirror: Why don't your colleague who owns this forum make Muslim threads accessible. Die if you're hard-core atheist. Amen. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Mental Disorder Called Atheism. Must Read For All Nairaland Christians by flamingREED(m): 6:01pm On Jun 03, 2018 |
MuttleyLaff: God bless you joor. Amen. |
Re: The Mental Disorder Called Atheism. Must Read For All Nairaland Christians by superhumanist(m): 6:01pm On Jun 03, 2018 |
flamingREED: This one that you are shouting "DIE, DIE DIE" up and down............. Do you belong to "DIE BY HOLY GHOST FIRE MINISTRIES"? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Mental Disorder Called Atheism. Must Read For All Nairaland Christians by hopefulLandlord: 6:11pm On Jun 03, 2018 |
superhumanist: Probably belongs to MFM, all they do every service is kill the witches and enemies they've been killing every previous service. 4 Likes |
Re: The Mental Disorder Called Atheism. Must Read For All Nairaland Christians by MuttleyLaff: 6:11pm On Jun 03, 2018 |
bobowaja:What mattered was quoted the rest werent, because they are irrelevant and inconsequential You see, talking of telling the truth, answer these two questions now: 1/ Was there an advanced warning given by person in question, asking another person not to, anymore, toe a particular line of action? 2/ Did the person in question, inform this other person, of the serious consequences if found to intentionally disregard or not pay attention to the cautionary advice given? 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Mental Disorder Called Atheism. Must Read For All Nairaland Christians by Anas09: 6:12pm On Jun 03, 2018 |
superhumanist:E pain am. You dey lucky say i no evoke your demons against you. 5 Likes |
Re: The Mental Disorder Called Atheism. Must Read For All Nairaland Christians by flamingREED(m): 6:12pm On Jun 03, 2018 |
superhumanist: End in the night Like the fool in the Bible. |
Re: The Mental Disorder Called Atheism. Must Read For All Nairaland Christians by budaatum: 6:17pm On Jun 03, 2018 |
MuttleyLaff:I guess this is where your religion limits you. You assume one has to believe a thing before one learns from that thing. I am fortunately not that willing to be stupid and can take my learning from numerous sources without making any of them a god to believe in. But that aside. Op has claimed he believes and worships Jesus and has set him up as his standard. He has also mentioned me in the title of the thread. All that gives one the right to question him and his standards. Though, this being a public forum, even that right is irrelevant, as one is free to post whatever one wishes, within the rules! If your desire is to argue the figmentation of the imagination aspect of it, you might want to open a thread. You have no exclusive rights due to your religion, apart from being held up against your words to see if you actually measure up. And in this case, regardless of how much you and op wriggle, you failed! 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Mental Disorder Called Atheism. Must Read For All Nairaland Christians by Anas09: 6:32pm On Jun 03, 2018 |
frank317:Frank, You kill your first wife, no kill this one o. Dey demons wey dey inside you kill your first wife, dats why i dey warn you. Dem go strike again o. Conquer those demons before it'll get out of hand o. |
Re: The Mental Disorder Called Atheism. Must Read For All Nairaland Christians by HardMirror(m): 6:32pm On Jun 03, 2018 |
flamingREED:see a dead man wishing me death. We would all die, funny you could even be the first to go. I am sure by now you are wondering why none of us has died despite all your efforts. Lol 1 Like |
Re: The Mental Disorder Called Atheism. Must Read For All Nairaland Christians by Butterflyleo: 6:33pm On Jun 03, 2018 |
bobowaja: Some things are obviously beyond your level of understanding, This is the whole thing a. There is hatred in the person towards me, Let me break it down for you. A) There is hatred in the person towards me. As an atheist such a mindset called hatred should not exist because you hold a subjective morality which is personal and you believe everyone holds a subjective morality ad objectivity does not exist to you. So where did "hatred" come from? The hatred you claim is someone else's subjective morality which is quite acceptable to you who is also subjective in morality so with what opposing world view do you use to term ANYTHING as hatred? B) It is an insult, because the person thinks of me as an animal that needs some form of phyiscal punishment Same with hatred, where did INSULT come from? Remember subjectivity? Also it is on record that atheists do not believe in creationism as that would entail holding unto a divine being or deity so based on this, most if not all atheists would rather swing the way of evolution which terms all humans as ANIMALS. Based on this, he should not be upset when someone sees him as such after all, does he get upset when scientists call him same? C) it is against the rules of nairaland. There would be no nairaland if there was FIRST no US. We came before nairaland and that means we were made for nairaland and not nairaland for us. The rules of nairaland are always circumvented due to subjectivity which is why people tend to deliberately mispell words censored by nairaland and against nairaland rules (something you also often do). So how can you a lawbreaker call another person a lawbreaker over something you are also guilty of? Understood? ![]() 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Mental Disorder Called Atheism. Must Read For All Nairaland Christians by HardMirror(m): 6:34pm On Jun 03, 2018 |
flamingREED:you are just typing rubbish. End in the night ko finish in the morning ni. Low iq dey dey worry you. Read the nonsense you typed and ask yourself if it makes sense to even a daft Arrow like you 1 Like |
Re: The Mental Disorder Called Atheism. Must Read For All Nairaland Christians by HardMirror(m): 6:38pm On Jun 03, 2018 |
Anas09:hehehehehe!!!! Another Demon whisperer. Oshey baddest. Awon demon commander. Lol. Seems you folks are taking too much communion these days. Pls note that thing contains alchohol and seems you are drunk on it. With a minute, this is worse than what alcohol can do. Hope u aint smoking lizard poo. Damn. This guys reality is crazier than Harry Potter's |
Re: The Mental Disorder Called Atheism. Must Read For All Nairaland Christians by superhumanist(m): 6:38pm On Jun 03, 2018 |
Re: The Mental Disorder Called Atheism. Must Read For All Nairaland Christians by HardMirror(m): 6:40pm On Jun 03, 2018 |
hopefulLandlord:foolish people. Always killing enemies. Makes me wonder if they know what true freedom is. Living in bondage of imaginary enemies |
Re: The Mental Disorder Called Atheism. Must Read For All Nairaland Christians by Butterflyleo: 6:42pm On Jun 03, 2018 |
budaatum: Where did I mention you in the title of the thread? Is your moniker or name ATHEISM? I specifically said the thread is a must read FOR ALL CHRISTIANS and not ALL ATHEISTS. Are you a Christian? Besides the people I sent a cc to your moniker was not on the list so what lie are you spinning? Reading a thing is different from responding to it. Claiming you have a right to respond to.my OP because I mentioned you there is a bold faced lie because I didn't. You barged in despite the fact that you were not invited, nor mentioned, nor solicited to respond. Was my OP a question that required an answer? 2 Likes |
Re: The Mental Disorder Called Atheism. Must Read For All Nairaland Christians by budaatum: 6:44pm On Jun 03, 2018 |
Butterflyleo:I knew you'd ask. Yes, my name is atheist. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Mental Disorder Called Atheism. Must Read For All Nairaland Christians by HardMirror(m): 6:45pm On Jun 03, 2018 |
LosVikingos:you made a lot of sense. It makes sense to think the way you do. There could be more, who knows. 3 Likes |
Re: The Mental Disorder Called Atheism. Must Read For All Nairaland Christians by Butterflyleo: 6:46pm On Jun 03, 2018 |
budaatum: The title says atheism and not atheist. So where did I mention you in the title as you alleged? ATHEISM is a worldview ATHEIST is A PERSON who has that worldview So where did I mention you? 1 Like |
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