steveosaz:


Your entire culture is a derivative of Benin hegemony. Oduduwa your progenitor was only but a son in Edo. That was the genesis of Edo lordship over yoruba.

The little regard I had for Yoruba prior to coming here has been completely eroded. Your history is purr hogwash. Too many version. Which do we believe?

You come here to pretend meanwhile, we all know your entire race is in disarray. The order that exists among northern traditional rulers submitting to the authority of the Sultan is totally absent in your own case. I repeat, Yoruba has no history. Its all pure ccock and bull stories that you all have taken up the unfortunate burden of believing.

Ekaladheran, Sultan na religious leader. North christians dont pay allegiance to him.

To a more serious concern.....
Have you ever fought another Empire? I was shocked to learn you never did. So all this your gragra about fights and wars are on little towns and kingdoms?

Moneywomen17:
my guy shut up there is no ife head in Benin or what are u talking about. What was dug up in benin palace is an artwork of the ooni not his actual head dumbass. But the actual head of ur king is buried in ife and why will it be dug our. The ooni point out very well to ur oba where they were buried when he visit ife. How far is Lagos to Benin and the awori went to Benin to ask for a king so did the Benin come to ife lying down begging for a king before oduduwa had mercy and sent one of son like how God sent one of his begotten son to the world. When oranmiyan got there saw what kind of people u are and saw that his Yoruba way does not tally with the bini way he took a Benin woman smash her had a son that his descendants will continue ruling u till today. Till today u worship almost every Yoruba gods like Shango, Ogun, osun and so many others the same way a conquered people should. Just like African worship their conqueror god Benin also worship Yoruba gods. We don’t any Benin food in eastern Yoruba is Shapa efo riro Benin food do u even know what shapa his. Benin eat our food not us. What Yoruba do u see wearing skirt like Benin we are men for god sake we don’t wear skirt at least for a long long time. Benin is just one of the lost people that ife birthed I know it hurts but accept it and stop crying now to Yoruba master men and respect ur Yoruba ruler in Benin we don dash u.

what episode in if loving is wrong where randall and his lawyer friend trying suffocating
Thats what u want to believe...

I havnt seen any oba of benin in ife if true benin oba heads were been buried in ife then so should other yoruba kingdom kings head should hve also be buried in ife ...if they did not then its just a folklore by the yorubas claiming oba of benin heads wetr buried in ife to show progenitor...
Yet we havnt still seen the benin obas head dugged out or any other yoruba oba head dug out yo show all this kings showed respect to ife ....

But what Nigerians have seen is a statue dugout of benin showing the ooni not the othet way round this only shows that the ooni sends is statue to benin to show benin supiority over all yorubas through conquering we spreaded our relgion our food to the yoruba race we made yoruba our son called the town ile ife meaning ile(run) n' fe (wealth or suceed) which later coined by the yorubas who couldn't speak benin to ile ife.

Y0ruba:





http://research.iaun.ac.ir/pd/shafiee-nahrkhalaji/pdfs/UploadFile_2857.pdf


You are a complete mo.r0n.

Quote me no further, goodbye.

Who bewitched this boy? Research is not always about digging into the past, really?

Now I really understand where these Oviedos are coming from. If there is no digging into the past then what greatness has he been talking about when referring to Bini? It's of no use schooling these lobotomised set of people on the internet. Please sir stop casting your precious pearls before these swines. Just keep up the good work you've been doing, ICAN tell you that I've been richly informed by you and all other good Yoruba people contributing to this thread

Cheers

steveosaz:


Just back off before the sledge hammer falls on you.

Read through earlier posts and stop being lousy. I have said it before that Yoruba has no history. What you call history is what was put down by dubious and compromised people like Y0ruba. This is why there are several version, editions and revisions to your history. What you call history has been badly distorted and doctored.

Meanwhile, none of you is ready to address the serious issues I raised about what the number one king in yorubaland, Alaafin of Oyo said about the ooni. I really am going to get you all to the point where you would begin to ask yourselves why the ooni is even regarded as a king in yorubaland in the first place. Because the ooni being a slave boy of Oduduwa shouldn't have been made king. His being regarded as a king is an aberration.

You get this wrong, very wrong boy
Just let me jeer up your sleeping brain �.
Oranmiyan that started your Ọba Dynasty in Ilẹ̀ Ìbínú is thee same that started the Ọba dynasties of the Ọ̀yọ́. He latter came back to become the ooni of Ìfẹ́, so how is that a slave boy of Oodua? I really mock your ignorance boy

davidnazee:


Are you babaramota’s cousin? Because he is the only one who make the dumbest and most moronic statement like this..
do u know the meaning of legends?
We celebrate and touts our heroes not our legends..
so you can continue to sing about your legend of the man descending from the skies in chains or of the man that can draw fire and thunder from the heavens it’s ur business..

Simple question you can not answer, all you and your set of dummies know how to do is spew factless and fraudulent fairy tales of how bini conquered unknown territories who latter came back and raped your landlocked hunt you called kingdom without any form of resistance from you lot. Answer the question and stop dilly dallying

Moneywomen17:
shut up there tell us a Benin name that start with odu till today in Yoruba land we have oduduwa odutola and odufuwa. Pure Yoruba name but one dumbass called steveosaz is saying pure bullshit here.

You are clearly a donkey.
Is Odu what is in contention here? Or that you people twisted and skewed the original meaning of the name.
Just like Bazuaye was converted to Bajulaye by you guys. Edo converted to Ado.

AxxeMan:
[[s]quote author=Obalufon post=68283921]



ibo boy i knew you were ibo masquerading as Edo ..oba benin will behead you for the rubbish you are doing here [/s]

Bloody yorober pervert obsessed with Edo greatness .... Bloody thief !! Better go and list over whatever tiny shit u ppl might have in your south wasted land .... Ozour !!

You are not edo use ..Man..You will languish die in your fake acclaimed greatness ..Dispute it or not the fact are there to be read ...Yoruba are celebrated all over the world who know your your dirty kingdom..we are first in everything in Nigeria you can't compare our cognitive development as a race to your barbaric people we are different the little civilization you have is from us ..

AxxeMan:
[[s]quote author=Obalufon post=68283921]



ibo boy i knew you were ibo masquerading as Edo ..oba benin will behead you for the rubbish you are doing here [/s]

Bloody yorober pervert obsessed with Edo greatness .... Bloody thief !! Better go and list over whatever tiny shit u ppl might have in your south wasted land .... Ozour !!

You are not edo ..probably ibo breed with edo ..Man..You will languish die in your fake acclaimed greatness ..Dispute it or not the fact are there to be read ...Yoruba are celebrated all over the world who know your your dirty kingdom..we are first in everything in Nigeria you can't compare our cognitive development as a race to your barbaric people we are different the little civilization you have is from us .

rhektor:



You get this wrong, very wrong boy
Just let me jeer up your sleeping brain �.
Oranmiyan that started your Ọba Dynasty in Ilẹ̀ Ìbínú is thee same that started the Ọba dynasties of the Ọ̀yọ́. He latter came back to become the ooni of Ìfẹ́, so how is that a slave boy of Oodua? I really mock your ignorance boy

You trapped him didnt you?
Then whaack..!!!!

Good job!

rhektor:



You get this wrong, very wrong boy
Just let me jeer up your sleeping brain �.
Oranmiyan that started your Ọba Dynasty in Ilẹ̀ Ìbínú is thee same that started the Ọba dynasties of the Ọ̀yọ́. He latter came back to become the ooni of Ìfẹ́, so how is that a slave boy of Oodua? I really mock your ignorance boy

Hehehe

You are really a manufacturer of history.

This is a screenshot from a seminal work by a yoruba man Zents Kunle Sowunmi who has demonstrated objectivity in his analysis. He is also a writer and historian amongst many other things.

Here is what he says confirming that ooni was indeed an Oduduwa slave born by a slave woman and accounts for why Alaafin would never accept ooni superiority over him. Same thing Olugbo is saying. And here is all these people telling you that you are an ignoramus of the first order.

gregyboy:


what episode in if loving is wrong where randall and his lawyer friend trying suffocating
Thats what u want to believe...

I havnt seen any oba of benin in ife if true benin oba heads were been buried in ife then so should other yoruba kingdom kings head should hve also be buried in ife ...if they did not then its just a folklore by the yorubas claiming oba of benin heads wetr buried in ife to show progenitor...
Yet we havnt still seen the benin obas head dugged out or any other yoruba oba head dug out yo show all this kings showed respect to ife ....

But what Nigerians have seen is a statue dugout of benin showing the ooni not the othet way round this only shows that the ooni sends is statue to benin to show benin supiority over all yorubas through conquering we spreaded our relgion our food to the yoruba race we made yoruba our son called the town ile ife meaning ile(run) n' fe (wealth or suceed) which later coined by the yorubas who couldn't speak benin to ile ife.

Thank you. We've been saying it that yoruba has no history. What they simply do is they do a mind envisioning, then begin to create a story to fit that mental picture. This is just the dubiousness of these people. Unfortunately, so many of them do this and at the end of the day, everyone is touting to sell his own fraudulent historical creations over those of the others.

Most yorubas very certainly don't know where they come from, they just decided at some point to link up with ife. If you ask the original inhabitants of ife where they came from, they'll begin to tell unreasonable tales. That's why they never want to touch on these areas because they know it would unearth so much about their fraud, so they just sweet it under the carpet and tell everyone to simply regard themselves as originating from ife.

steveosaz:


Hehehe

You are really a manufacturer of history.

This is a screenshot from a seminal work by a yoruba man Zents Kunle Sowunmi who has demonstrated objectivity in his analysis. He is also a writer and historian amongst many other things.

Here is what he says confirming that ooni was indeed an Oduduwa slave born by a slave woman and accounts for why Alaafin would never accept ooni superiority over him. Same thing Olugbo is saying. And here is all these people telling you that you are an ignoramus of the first order.

Your major problem is that you don't anything and you don't want to learn to know, you lack the capacity to know since you never ready to learn. How could you ever belive Ooni mean the speared one? You dabble into the language which you know nothing about. Where are you even getting all these fables from? Y0ruba Babaramota olu317 nibo lẹ́yìn àgbààgbà wọ̀nyí tí rí àrè yí? Abegi make iná beat sense into the cranium of these Oviedo clowns

gregyboy:


what episode in if loving is wrong where randall and his lawyer friend trying suffocating
Thats what u want to believe...

I havnt seen any oba of benin in ife if true benin oba heads were been buried in ife then so should other yoruba kingdom kings head should hve also be buried in ife ...if they did not then its just a folklore by the yorubas claiming oba of benin heads wetr buried in ife to show progenitor...
Yet we havnt still seen the benin obas head dugged out or any other yoruba oba head dug out yo show all this kings showed respect to ife ....

But what Nigerians have seen is a statue dugout of benin showing the ooni not the othet way round this only shows that the ooni sends is statue to benin to show benin supiority over all yorubas through conquering we spreaded our relgion our food to the yoruba race we made yoruba our son called the town ile ife meaning ile(run) n' fe (wealth or suceed) which later coined by the yorubas who couldn't speak benin to ile ife.

shut up there dumbass u think everybody is a fool like u. Ooni statue was in ur king palace coz ur king was probably worshipping it and no way implies any Benin superiority rather ife superiority over Benin so ur king and his subject knows who the boss his. And don’t deceive urself Benin worship Yoruba god like Sango ogun not the other way round. Ife made Benin and name that’s making someone ur son. Ile ife land of expansion has became a Benin word lol well welcome back dumbass greg

steveosaz:


You are clearly a donkey.
Is Odu what is in contention here? Or that you people twisted and skewed the original meaning of the name.
Just like Bazuaye was converted to Bajulaye by you guys. Edo converted to Ado.

shut up there liar odu is the contention cuz there is no izoduwa. Yoruba bear name like odufuwa and oduduwa u see the similarities so how did they twist any fake meaning u are talking about. And what the Bleep is bazuaye u keep talking about bajulaye in Yoruba means obajulaye. The meaning of oba ju laye is oba is greater on earth roughly in my own interpretation in English. Check Yoruba lexicon and search those word individually to understand and stop being dumb. It is no edo word

rhektor:


Your major problem is that you don't anything and you don't want to learn to know, you lack the capacity to know since you never ready to learn. How could you ever belive Ooni mean the speared one? You dabble into the language which you know nothing about. Where are you even getting all these fables from? Y0ruba Babaramota olu317 nibo lẹ́yìn àgbààgbà wọ̀nyí tí rí àrè yí? Abegi make iná beat sense into the cranium of these Oviedo clowns

Don't mind the clown. He is an irrelevant dehydrated being. No matter, what you or any one write, he will disagree. Little did know that ILE IFE have all account of all descendants of Oranmiyan. And his resting place is still at ILE IFE. Beside, he is only digressing because what's important is that Oba Bini is a descendant of a Yoruba man.

steveosaz:


Hehehe

You are really a manufacturer of history.

This is a screenshot from a seminal work by a yoruba man Zents Kunle Sowunmi who has demonstrated objectivity in his analysis. He is also a writer and historian amongst many other things.

Here is what he says confirming that ooni was indeed an Oduduwa slave born by a slave woman and accounts for why Alaafin would never accept ooni superiority over him. Same thing Olugbo is saying. And here is all these people telling you that you are an ignoramus of the first order.

Just imaging your ignorance So Ooni is a slave? This is the problem when ignorance is at peak. We don't need to inform you about Ooni because, his stool is the most respected. Why dont deal with your King who is a stranger. Answer the question why there is Unueru treaty at Ekiokpagha?
Oviedo come and answer this question if your King isnt a stranger.

Attah poses with his war booty from Bini.

Moneywomen17:
shut up there dumbass u think everybody is a fool like u. Ooni statue was in ur king palace coz ur king was probably worshipping it and no way implies any Benin superiority rather ife superiority over Benin so ur king and his subject knows who the boss his. And don’t deceive urself Benin worship Yoruba god like Sango ogun not the other way round. Ife made Benin and name that’s making someone ur son. Ile ife land of expansion has became a Benin word lol well welcome back dumbass greg

Oba worships his Yoruba fathers
Edos worship the Oba.


Even Ooni was careful not to mix Edo into Bini. Here is interpretation....

Yoruba own the Kingdom
Edo own the land.

MayorofLagos:
This address is to Edos.

From written records the first people and Kingdom the sea merchants traded with was Itsekiri. After that the Bini Kingdom.

[b]We are in 2000s, Europeans have been coming to your land since 1400s, if not earlier. You should pay attention to the way Europeans write about you, against their style when writing about others. When they write about Itsekiri they just say Itsekiri, they never qualify it as Itsekiri Kingdom. When they write about Ijo, they just say Ijo. When they write about Yoruba they never say Yoruba Kingdom. So why do they always, without exception, write about you in the context of your Kingdom? This is so because they recognize a blend, an homogeneity between Itsekiri King and his people, Ijo King and his people, Yoruba King and his people. In your case they see a heterogeneous society - the foreigner aristocrat King that maintains a distinct separation in class and status from the indigenous class of chiefs.

Go to any museum or library abroad and say you are looking for materials on Edo people. They will remark and say 'Aahh, that's the Bini Kingdom!" Why can't Edo be recognized for what it is without reference to Bini Kingdom? If you ask for material on Yoruba they will respond and say we have on Ife, Oyo, Ketu, Ijesha, Egba, Ekiti, Owo, Ijebu, Lagos, Popo, Ilorin, and so on....no one ever says "Oooh, the Oyo Empire".[/b]




Cheers!

Your envy of Edo peoples achievements is very glaring.. Your words just show how shallow minded and full of self pity you Yorubas are.
You twist a recognition of a people's achievements into negative so you can feel good about the failures of your ancestors.
First of all its not Bini Kingdom, its Benin Kingdom.. and also Yoruba didn't even invent the spelling "Bini" you didn't have any alphabets or writings so don't come up with the excuse of European version or Yoruba version..

Now for your idiotic analysis..
I guess you have never set foot outside Nigeria or interacted with any Europeans hence your myopic analysis.. If an Italian identifies himself as Italian, the roman empire which they built comes to mind, so also if someone says he is Egyptian the Pyramids comes to mind. If Someone says I am English you think of the British Empire. If I say I am Edo of course they will say "ahh the Benin Kingdom" because the fame of the Mighty Benin Kingdom is easily remembered.. If you say you are Yoruba they will not think of the Benin Kingdom because everyone know Benin Kingdom belongs to the Edos.. When I was in school here, one of my professors asked me what part of Nigeria am I from.. I told him I am Edo and he said "the people that built the famous Benin Kingdom" He had read alot about the Kingdom and I could see the pride in his eyes as he talked about our Kingdom and the struggle against white imperialism (He is Jamaican).
Only a jealous and self pitying fool will twist that recognition of an achievement into negative.

And you are right when you said if you identify as Yoruba nothing comes to mind, no Oyo empire because even the Europeans know that its just fable and myths.. so of course they will simply say the Yoruba people.. Nothing else to discuss, no achievements, no legacy, only history of suppression and enslavement which nobody wants to talk about these days so as not to stoke feelings of self pity and depression among you..

As for the Itsekiri and the Ijaws you mentioned.. If an Itsekiri man identifies himself, Chief Nana comes to mind, also the Ijaws too, King Jaja is easily remembered.. They are remembered for their struggles and are recognized as African heroes.. So associating nothing to those tribes is an insult to the legacy their ancestors left behind. (mind you, they are Edos too).. Even the Igbos are associated with their struggles for Biafra and fight against oppression and also for their ingenuity.. But again if you mention Yoruba still nothing comes to mind.. No heroes, no legacy, no achievements.. only pain and suffering caused by their weak nature is remembered.

What else can a people be recognized for if not achievements and legacies left behind? While our ancestors left legacies of strength and conquests, yours left weakness, self enslavement, defeats and cowardice..

You are the most shallow minded of the Yorubas here.. It is only a weakling that tries to turn someones achievements into negative because of his own failures.. I hope you know the real meaning of the word "Yoruba" given to you by the Hausas? You just defined it now with your analysis.

^^^

Kindly read what you wrote up there. Do you not see you are self-patronizing?

Every parent desire for their children to outdo them. At what point does a son of the noble stop being an appendage to his aristocrat father, and make name for himself?

Ile Ife has spun so many independent nations around the globe and each of them has name recognition devoid of attachment. Why couldn't Edo in all the years of service and loyalty you have dedicated to worshipping your foreign Oba, make a name for yourself devoid of Bini Kingdom?

Give it a thought before you reply.

MetaPhysical:
^^^

Kindly read what you wrote up there. Do you not see you are self-patronizing?

Every parent desire for their children to outdo them. At what point does a son of the noble stop being an appendage to his aristocrat father, and make name for himself?

Ile Ife has spun so many independent nations around the globe and each of them has name recognition devoid of attachment. Why couldn't Edo in all the years of service and loyalty you have dedicated to worshipping your foreign Oba, make a name for yourself devoid of Bini Kingdom?

Give it a thought before you reply.

Actually what you just wrote don’t make any sense..
and what nations have Ife spun around the globe?
You lies don’t go beyond this forum so what’s the point of it?

davidnazee:


Actually what you just wrote don’t make any sense..
and what nations have Ife spun around the globe?
You lies don’t go beyond this forum so what’s the point of it?

Ekladheran...
Start with Bini now.

MetaPhysical:
^^^

Kindly read what you wrote up there. Do you not see you are self-patronizing?

Every parent desire for their children to outdo them. At what point does a son of the noble stop being an appendage to his aristocrat father, and make name for himself?

Ile Ife has spun so many independent nations around the globe and each of them has name recognition devoid of attachment. Why couldn't Edo in all the years of service and loyalty you have dedicated to worshipping your foreign Oba, make a name for yourself devoid of Bini Kingdom?

Give it a thought before you reply.

I’m still trying to think why you yorubas will just take to lying to your fellow Nigerians that know u too well as the most coward and weak tribe in Nigeria..
The only reason I can come up with is that u trying to feel good within yourselves which may be okay for u but doesn’t change the fact that you still a cowardly tribe.

Ekladheran, i have a question for you.

Look at these words, they are attributes to personify an subject.

"A soldier's soldier"
"A kingly king"
"Putt-putt"

"Igodomigodo"

What is Igodo?

Let me forewarn you. This is a trap question.

In case you missed it...this is a post by Y0ruba.

Further information has also cast doubt on the iconographie arguments with which Ryder buttresses his case. Thus we now have several examples of the Maltese -cross symbols on terra-cotta materials excavated at Ife. 37

And the presence of this symbol in the city's archaeological deposits vitiates the argument, based on its alleged absence from the deposits, that Ife could not have been the source of the cross sent by the Ogane to mark his approval of a new Oba of Benin. Again, we now have several examples of the "cat's-whisker" facial mark on terra-cotta heads excavated at "classical" Ife sites. And the presence of this mark vitiates yet an argument.38

Ryder, it will be recalled, notes that brass figures allegedly representing messengers of the Ogane characteristically bear "cat whisker" facial marks, and argues that since this has never been an Ife or indeed a Yoruba mark, such messengers cannot have hailed from from anywhere else in Yoruba country. Oddly, he himself acknowledg a footnote the existence of one "cat's-whisker" head excavated at Ife. But rather thàn allow it cast doubt on his argument, he treats it as the exception that proves the rule. With the discovery of several such pieces, however, such special pleading, already dubious, becomes totally unacceptable.

Nor are the Maltese cross and the "cat's-whisker" the only Bini motifs for which Ife counterparts have been established over the past few years. On the contrary, recent excavations at Ife have revealed a whole series of motifs previously thought to be peculiar to Benin.39 Along with the new iconographie findings, we have also acquired an impressive series of dates.

Application of carbon-14 and thermoluminescence techniques to excavated materials has enabled us to assign approximate absolute dates to several major Ife settlement levels and to the terra cotta and brass works associated with them. Dates for terra-cotta pieces range from c. A.D. 1000 onward; whilst dates for brass pieces range from c. A.D. 1275 to c. A.D. 1440.

Application of these techniques to materials from Owo and Benin has also enabled us to assign dates to some of the "classical" terracotta and brass-work associated with these cities. Significantly, the Owo and Benin date-series begin slightly later than their Ife counterparts.

One particularly interesting Benin date is for a brass piece previously assessed by Fagg and Dark as early on the ground of its Ife-type naturalism. Thermoluminescence tests give it a date of c. A.D 1420 just what it should be on the premises adopted by these authors.

Taken together, the new iconographie and dating discoveries would seem to have swung the balance of the evidence back in favour of the consensual thesis of a "classical" political and artistic tradition which originated in Ife and subsequently spread to Benin.

AxxeMan:
Now this is what I call an Hatchet Job!!.... Well done my Edo brothers and Sister!

Prolog2 hwfar I see you still dealing deadly facts on the confused scumbags from ile shit town!........

Edonation Sup baby missed me?

Yh I missed you baby

davidnazee:


I’m still trying to think why you yorubas will just take to lying to your fellow Nigerians that know u too well as the most coward and weak tribe in Nigeria..
The only reason I can come up with is that u trying to feel good within yourselves which may be okay for u but doesn’t change the fact that you still a cowardly tribe.

Look at your ignorance! Atakpame is a settlement of Yorubas in Togo, Sabe in Bénin Republic, Ketu is Bénin Republic, Yoruba are in Ghana. Yoruba are all over Southern America and Northern America.

To my Edo cousins, Battle of Atakpamé

Research that

You said Oyo's were cowards

Well, I do not believe I am a coward, nor my brethren

My ancestors defeated the ashanti in battle. Battle of Atakpamé

We also subdued Dahomey.

I also admit that Benin Kingdom was a formidable force and I take great pride in that african kingdom as well

I will also admit that Oyo was less powerful than Benin when the white imperialist came here

Why?

Fulani invasion and internal fighting

Benin was the last to fall in Nigeria

So mad respect to Benin

However,

I think you guys had a lot of factors to your advantage

Territorial advantage

The fulanis did not have a clear path into benin

You also had alot of wealth in benin territory

Rubber, Palms

The white man wanted to trade with your fertile region

Nonetheless, you have alot to be proud of

So do my people

Peace brothers

Olu317:
Look at your ignorance! Atakpame is a settlement of Yorubas in Togo, Sabe in Bénin Republic, Ketu is Bénin Republic, Yoruba are in Ghana. Yoruba are all over Southern America and Northern America.

And Atakpame is an independent nation? Those Yorubas in countries u mentioned are all independent nations?
And to show how much of a mugu u are.. Those people u mentioned in South America went there themselves from Ife to form independent nations? Are Yorubas the only tribes exported as slaves from Africa? Maybe Igbos can claim independent Igbo nations too in South America then abi.. Which Yorubas are in North America? Are u refering to the ones that travel there with visas? Every national is in North America mugu..
You can continue celebrating your enslavement its your choice I don't care but you still don't make any sense at all..

BabaRamota1980:
In case you missed it...this is a post by Y0ruba.

Babaramota would continually be a synonym for stupidity. It is one of those things here established that Y0ruba is a quack history manufacturer not worth two cents. I quoted a more sensible and objective historian who also happens to be Yoruba. Y0ruba is a nonentity and a greater nonentity you are for being his disciple.

Moorish:
To my Edo cousins, Battle of Atakpamé

Research that

You said Oyo's were cowards

Well, I do not believe I am a coward, nor my brethren

My ancestors defeated the ashanti in battle. Battle of Atakpamé

We also subdued Dahomey.

I also admit that Benin Kingdom was a formidable force and I take great pride in that african kingdom as well

I will also admit that Oyo was less powerful than Benin when the white imperialist came here

Why?

Fulani invasion and internal fighting

Benin was the last to fall in Nigeria

So mad respect to Benin

However,

I think you guys had a lot of factors to your advantage

Territorial advantage

The fulanis did not have a clear path into benin

You also had alot of wealth in benin territory

Rubber, Palms

The white man wanted to trade with your fertile region

Nonetheless, you have alot to be proud of

So do my people

Peace brothers

I think its better you Yorubas let the Edos celebrate their famous history and heritage and the Yorubas should celebrate and tout their present achievements which is also remarkable.. The Yorubas out of jealousy for Edos achievements are the only ones crying wolf.. You don't see Igbos or any other tribe coming out to vomit rubbish about Edo history or people unlike the Yorubas.. Your jealousy stinks badly..