brocab:
Well their isn't much difference between both Churches, and since the Orthodox Church is looking after it, having some difficulty, then one would think the Roman Catholic Church would support this Church, this is the first Church James had began after His Brother Jesus had risen..
Don't you understand this is the place Mary and the disciples had received the Holy Spirit, this is beginning of the Christians, this historical Church shouldn't be hidden under a car park, Christians need to see this place..
Did you watch the video, or are you reading between the lines?

Ubenedictus:
but the simple issue is that the Church falls under the immediate control of the Orthodox Church, they have sole, autonomous control, in fact the Orthodox Church in Jerusalem is sometimes violent when it comes to their sites, during the time of the previous patriarch of Jerusalem, the Orthodox monks used to gang up and attack the Catholic monks and beat them up.
any thing like such help will result in violence from the Orthodox.... so we stay clear of stuff that isn't in our care.

Ubenedictus:


this is not the place where the holy spirit descended on the apostles. the holy spirit descended in the upper room, the upper room is in the care of the Catholic Franciscans.

this is simply the meeting place like a catacomb of the Church in Jerusalem, this was where they met during persecution, this is where they baptised new Christian, celebrated the Eucharist etc. you can see the ancient Christian symbols there as you'll find in Catholic churches.

but the simple issue is that the Church falls under the immediate control of the Orthodox Church, they have sole, autonomous control, in fact the Orthodox Church in Jerusalem is sometimes violent when it comes to their sites, during the time of the previous patriarch of Jerusalem, the Orthodox monks used to gang up and attack the Catholic monks and beat them up.


any thing like such help will result in violence from the Orthodox.... so we stay clear of stuff that isn't in our care.

brocab:
I suppose this is why the catholic Church refuses to take care of the first Church! Plus does anybody in the Catholic Church believe Jews in Jerusalem?
Catholic Tradition tells us the Holy Spirit took place when Judas be traded Jesus in the upper room!
Catholic Tradition says that the apostles received the Holy Spirit on Pentecost in an upper room, but is that really what the Bible says?
The Bible says, “When the day of Pentecost had come, they were all together in one place” {Acts 2:1}
Where was that one place?
Catholic Tradition places that the receiving of the Spirit on Pentecost happened in the upper room of {Acts 1}
{V 4} And being assembled together with them, He commanded them not to depart from Jerusalem, but to wait for the Promise of the Father, “which,” He said, “you have heard from Me.
The disciples met in the upper room after the ascension, but ten days elapsed between the ascension and the events described in {Acts 2}
The story does not indicate that they were still in that upper room in {Acts 2} More likely, the believers assembled in one of the courts of the Temple, we can believe this story through guessing or tradition, or we can examine the scriptures!
Jesus said: they are to return back to Jerusalem, at the time this Church was built underground, who knows the exact time, but James the brother of Jesus had began this Church in Jerusalem, and it's the Jewish locals that claims this is the Church they received the Holy Spirit?
What happened in the upper room? After Judas’s departure, Jesus instituted the New Covenant in His blood, a new command that those who follow Him are to love one another and live by the power of the Holy Spirit. It didn't say the disciples received the Holy Spirit at that time in the upper room. Pentecost came after!
He does tell us that Jesus prayed over the disciples in what is called His “high priestly prayer” in {John 17} because the following chapter begins by saying that after He had spoken those words, He and the disciples went to the Garden of Gethsemane, where He was betrayed.
The prayer of Jesus for the disciples is the culmination of His dealings with them and is a poignant reminder of His deep love and concern for them.
Knowing that He would soon be leaving them, He committed them to the care of His Father, asking that they may be one and asking that the Father keep them in Jesus’ name {verse 11}
He asks His Father to keep them from the evil one {verse 15} and to sanctify them by the truth, which is His Word {verse 17}
He applies this same prayer to believers in all ages, saying, “I do not ask for these only, but also for those who will believe in me through their word” {verse 20}
Many of the events of the upper room echo down to us today. We live under the New Covenant instituted at that time, we observe the ordinance of the Lord’s Supper in remembrance of that night {1 Corinthians 11:23–26} and we live under the blessing of His prayer for all those who love and follow Him.
I don't see the day of Pentecost had anything to do with the upper room?
Is this your answer Uben, you expect me to believe this above, what the Catholic Church shows fear from the Orthodox Church, because of one lonely Church no-one seems to recognise it exist? And yet the Catholic Church has a large army and yet it takes one man to front the Orthodox Church alone and he posted this video, without getting himself beating up? "Truly if the Catholic Church really wanted people to know the truth, they wouldn't have denied the bible-Uben if you had watched the video they treated this man with respect, and they allowed this man to film the first Church, and now it's all over the net.

Ubenedictus:
you have the internet you can browse about Orthodox monks fighting in Jerusalem over sites.

the site is in the care of the Orthodox Church, Catholics can't take it over, it took 12 yrs for the Orthodox Church to even allow the Church of the holy sepulchre to be painted and that Church is jointly managed not to talk of here where they have sole custody.

the Orthodox Church can repair the Church, they have sole custody

Yale9:
Some people ehn... well, every great entity will face what it will face in the hands of ......... people.

Yale9:
Mary is every shade of "special" As a christian, you're a special person cos u believe in and follow Christ. Talk less of someone who gave birth to this same Christ we're talking about. Everything about Mary is special.