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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 2:01pm On Jun 20, 2018
kennysville:


Omoge.... Easy na?....you have stuck with this team through thick and thin. Why you suddenly giving up? Naija can still qualify. We all know why our players played the way they did. First of all, it was the first game of the group for Nigeria, the pressure would be very enormous. I can understand that. Secondly their confidence level wss tampered with some friendlies ago. Trust me if they had won all the friendlies, they would have had the self belief. Which is why people are clamouring for team psychologist. Its a mental state the boys are. The state they were in when they lost to Soutn Africa. When they come out of it, they are a beauty to watch.

The chief culprit is the man we have been singing his praises all this time. GERNOT ROHR!!! He just got found out and the disappointment is just kinda unbearable.

With respect to having our local coaches tinker our senior teams, I have my reservstions. As a foreign technical adviser, we all saw what Rohr went through picking his team, brushing aside agents and sticking to performance. Our local coaches are willing to compromise integrity for a morsel of bread. Apart from the fact that they need to upgrade to world class coaches as many of them are bereft of ideas when the chips are down.


The ones that actually are technically savvy will still be subjected to one useless technical committee approval which in most cases are comprised of ex internationals that cant coach.

Another problem is If for instance, one of the coaches pick the best players and they all happen to be from a particular region, then other regions will cry marginalisation. If he happens to come from the region he picked from, people cry nepotism. When these coaches put their foot down on big players, we cry out and say he lacks man management. Exactly what do we want gaan sef? If you play for a coach that doesnt like losing, you will see it in the players that play for him. And if you see a man manager, you will also see it in the teams play. Losing is not a big deal to Rohr and that is what has transferred to the team.

As for our own local coaches, if they can be true to the game, pick the best out of the best... and have the right Naija philosophy of play, are are given their respect and dues as at when due, we wont be in this mess. So in other words, we (Nigerians) are all responsible and culpable for whatever it is we are getting now.

The good thing is NFF are doing their best to change the status quo. They prepared the team so very well, handled all bonuses, sorted camping sites and logistics which is a giant leap in my books considering what happened in Rio Olympics.
(Wait! is it that we dont like things the easy way? Cos when things were rough and tough, our teams played with anger and passion). Or could it be that we respected a white man's world so much that we dont wanna come across as being stereotype when it comes to coaches and allowances?

From Keshi, to Siasia, to Oliseh , to Amuneke ..., they all had issues except for the white man. Even our players are not helping matters. And that is why I never supported Enyeama in all the mess that happened cos we sold out authority and discipline on the altar of sentiments. Where is the respect for the local team coach? Once our players get to Europe, they forget that the National team played (or can and will still play) a part in their careers. Where is Enyeama now? Story for another day....

A lot of things come into play when it comes to choosing local coaches. Give Siasia these same set of boys and watch them play like crazy. Give oliseh the same set of boys all things being equal, you will see sound tactics. But when it comes to them choosing their players, its either nepotism, federal character or some useless "my boys" philosophy. Press and Media nko?

When we are ready, we will do the right thing. Nobody should make excuses of Rohr prepared the team for only 2years. Thats mediocrity speaking. If you a tactician, you will know your teams problems and work on it immediately. When our goalies were busy messing up, who taught him to send goalie trainer to Uzoho? And mind you he did this in a short time. Imagine if he had been doing that since day 1?

Long story short, if this team crashes out of this world cup, life will go on. Heck, when the Nations cup qualifiers start, we will still support them. We will all see the error of our ways and know that nothing is cast in stone. Please dont give up just yet.....

#Naija4Life
UPSuperEagles
Na true fans suppose vex pass... 6 games without a win and u say make we fans no get mad.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 2:03pm On Jun 20, 2018

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 2:03pm On Jun 20, 2018
ChrisKels:


From our starting eleven, only Ndidi and iwobi can start for Senegal. Ndidi to partner Alfred Ndiaye while Iwobi plays in front of them.

Moses cant make the team because he doesnt play Senegal kinda game. U saw how niang a good dribbler was spraying passes and chasing down lose balls unlike our mister aimless dribbler. Niang plays for the team, Moses doesnt.
Dey deceive yourself.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 2:06pm On Jun 20, 2018
somehow:
BTW, why is the government giving them extra money as motivation? Do you deserve to wear that jersey if you still need extra money for motivation?

I am trying to understand, should they not even reject such gesture from the government if truly they have that patrotic spirit in them?
So sad
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by fabyom: 2:07pm On Jun 20, 2018
See the Moroccans, yes they are loosing but they are giving their all. The bane of all the African teams is that there is no standard 9/goal scorer
motherfucker:


My bro... My problem is that there was no passion, no determination and no grit... Like you said. It's been decades I saw a Nigerian super eagles play with such factors.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 2:09pm On Jun 20, 2018
I laugh when people say Iwobi is not effective from the wings so put him on the bench.

The alternative should be assigning him a more central role.

You cannot have a player with Iwobi's abilities in this kind of Super Eagles team and you start him on the bench.

Bench Iwobi and start Musa Kwa?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 2:10pm On Jun 20, 2018
Mujtahida:

oasis007 is this your wife ni?

grin

LMAO....... I don't know her Sir. Kindly invite her to this Thread, she's gonna be lovely and lively.

Cc Vivianoasis

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by fabyom: 2:15pm On Jun 20, 2018
Nope! A draw. We beat Iceland and draw Argentina to qualify.
Bolowolowo:
Fellow Eagalians, tomorrow, Argentina will face Croatia. What result can we realistically hope for. An Argentian win?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 2:16pm On Jun 20, 2018
Icon4s:
I laugh when people say Iwobi is not effective from the wings so put him on the bench.

The alternative should be assigning him a more central role.

You cannot have a player with Iwobi's abilities in this kind of Super Eagles team and you start him on the bench.

Bench Iwobi and start Musa Kwa?
instead of playing him on the wings let him seat on the bench. it depresses me to see that boy go anonymous in matches he plays from the wings. etebo can play there. iwobi should never be deployed to the wings again abeg!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by promzyphyno(m): 2:18pm On Jun 20, 2018
morocco is the perfect example of the saying"die fighting"
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 2:19pm On Jun 20, 2018
fabyom:
See the Moroccans, yes they are loosing but they are giving their all. The bane of all the African teams is that there is no standard 9/goal scorer
The Moroccans are the only Africans in this mundial that have matched pound for pound & have given as much as they have gotten


I do hope Senegal rises above their average performance yesterday, its going to be a storm against Columbia & Japan... its after those matches my praises can come out
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 2:22pm On Jun 20, 2018
promzyphyno:
morocco is the perfect example of the saying"die fighting"
Its not just die-fighting, they are giving as much as they are gettng...Heck this match has all the peculiarities of a tasty match..See the ball-winnings, the attack, the counters,the saves...that's what one must strive for
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 2:22pm On Jun 20, 2018
We should stop comparing our players to theirs. Iceland don’t have the best players. Lets focus on their fighting spirit as a unit.


edi287:

And they also have better players than we do.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 2:23pm On Jun 20, 2018
Lol.... But surprised, I am shaa to hear you haven't heard of him. I was a little boy when I read about Ali Daei and saw clips of him and the France 98 story. Also, of how he was involved in that historic win for Iran over USA at France 98. And you and I know the political brouhaha these two nations have always had from way back. Ali Daei's international career is well documented. He was indeed a legend and a true lion of Persia.


somehow:


Who did Ali Daei score all these 106 goals against internationally?

How long did he play and how come alot is unknown about him? He's even a giant standing at 1.95M tall

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 2:23pm On Jun 20, 2018
Joebie:
We should stop comparing our players to theirs. Iceland don’t have the best players. Lets focus on their fighting spirit as a unit.


I have read the last three pages in dismay
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 2:25pm On Jun 20, 2018
I see a draw grin
Bolowolowo:
Fellow Eagalians, tomorrow, Argentina will face Croatia. What result can we realistically hope for. An Argentian win?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 2:25pm On Jun 20, 2018
Mujtahida:

so it is about the worth of our players? is that why we lost? abi you are just stating this as a matter of fact
Just comparing their player's valuation with ours. Nothing to do with any win or loss.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Unlimited22: 2:27pm On Jun 20, 2018
Joebie:
I see a draw grin
Perfect result. Then we beat Iceland and draw Argentina to qualify grin wink wink
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 2:27pm On Jun 20, 2018
Well said. Morocco have done well so far and they have shown why they are a top African side. It is just unfortunate they got this group. They are better than Senegal. They have played the best football of all African teams but will sadly have to go home early. They were my second favorite African team coming to this mundial and rightly so. The Atlas Lions will be a force at Afcon 2019.


Odunayaw:
The Moroccans are the only Africans in this mundial that have matched pound for pound & have given as much as they have gotten


I do hope Senegal rises above their average performance yesterday, its going to be a storm against Columbia & Japan... its after those matches my praises can come out

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 2:29pm On Jun 20, 2018
If or when we get our wind back against the Vikings by beating them and showing a sound performance, then take it from me, we will beat Argentina in our last game too. That will be yet another shocker.



Unlimited22:

Perfect result. Then we beat Iceland and draw Argentina to qualify grin wink wink

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 2:30pm On Jun 20, 2018
We won’t get a point against Argentina when Rohr is aware Messi is playing.

fabyom:
Nope! A draw. We beat Iceland and draw Argentina to qualify.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Unlimited22: 2:30pm On Jun 20, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
If or when we get our wind back against the Vikings by beating them and showing a sound performance, then take it from me, we will beat Argentina in our last game too. That will be yet another shocker.



Baba, believe me, I don't care how we do it, as long as we get over that line.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 2:31pm On Jun 20, 2018
At the end of the day, the best team is the one who go farthest.

TheSuperNerd:
Well said. Morocco have done well so far and they have shown why they are a top African side. It is just unfortunate they got this group. They are better than Senegal. They have played the best football of all African teams but will sadly have to go home early. They were my second favorite African team coming to this mundial and rightly so. The Atlas Lions will be a force at Afcon 2019.


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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 2:32pm On Jun 20, 2018
These Moroccans are good. They have got flair running throughout that team.
From Amrabat to Dirar to Hakimi to Boussoufa to Belhanda to Ziyech to Boutaib.

They got flair all over the park.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by promzyphyno(m): 2:33pm On Jun 20, 2018
Odunayaw:
Its not just die-fighting, they are giving as much as they are gettng...Heck this match has all the peculiarities of a tasty match..See the ball-winnings, the attack, the counters,the saves...that's what one must strive for


one last thing needed,and that's luck
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 2:33pm On Jun 20, 2018
elyte89:



We knw what money does to we blacks,stop acting like a white man,

Money motivates us more,even though we knw dts not d right way.but hey,its part and parcel of us.


I knw if u re offered 10times of what u earn in ur present work,I knw u will leave dere,even if u re passionate abt d job cool
But these guys have money already so what are you talking about?

Do you know how much Gernot Rohr is raking in from NFF?

Don't they get match bonuses and a number of other allowances?

What happened to the competition's monetary benefits?

Do you know how much the Senegalese players and their coach are earning compared to ours??

please no make me vex o
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 2:34pm On Jun 20, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
Well said. Morocco have done well so far and they have shown why they are a top African side. It is just unfortunate they got this group. They are better than Senegal. They have played the best football of all African teams but will sadly have to go home early. They were my second favorite African team coming to this mundial and rightly so. The Atlas Lions will be a force at Afcon 2019.


AFCON 2019 will be spectacular I kid you not...since its going to be held in Cameroon I am considering passport preparations. If we cannot go to Russia grin at least we can still watch our black WC grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 2:34pm On Jun 20, 2018
The "most fortunate" actually. Ghana were "the best" at WC 2010 but have never conquered Africa with that Squad. The best in Africa are those who win the Afcon and can also try translate it on the world stage. It is unfortunate Cameroon were in our group in WC Qualifying.


Joebie:
At the end of the day, the best team is the one who go farthest.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 2:36pm On Jun 20, 2018
promzyphyno:



one last thing needed,and that's luck
Rightly said. That old age never lies "fortune favors the bold" and boldness has been the similarity between all the underdogs except the SE
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by promzyphyno(m): 2:41pm On Jun 20, 2018
Odunayaw:
Rightly said. That old age never lies "fortune favors the bold" and boldness has been the similarity between all the underdogs except the SE


if only our guys can just be half the thorn morocco is,we will qualify......i somehow still believe we will.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 2:42pm On Jun 20, 2018
There is an element of luck (or as I put it most fortunate) needed, But even if u gift some teams with an easy group they would still blow the opportunity.

The World Cup is a whole different ball game. Make we no use AFCON deceive ourselves.

TheSuperNerd:
The "most fortunate" actually. Ghana were "the best" at WC 2010 but have never conquered Africa with that Squad. The best in Africa are those who win the Afcon and can also try translate it on the world stage. It is unfortunate Cameron were in our group in WC Qualifying.


Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 2:44pm On Jun 20, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
Well said. Morocco have done well so far and they have shown why they are a top African side. It is just unfortunate they got this group. They are better than Senegal. They have played the best football of all African teams but will sadly have to go home early. They were my second favorite African team coming to this mundial and rightly so. The Atlas Lions will be a force at Afcon 2019.


Football is all about the results bro. Losing two games now, nothing special about them for me.

Those north Africans, na for Africa dem get power.

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