Joebie:
I’ve been saying we need to change the format of CAF WC qualification although it has favored us sometimes. We need several preliminary rounds and a final 12 countries that would play in a mini-league format. All the rounds should be spread such that the qualification matches for the next WC begin immediately after the end of the current WC.
Africa would be better represented and a larger pool of players involved.

Modified
AFCON should be held once in every 4 years instead.

Why? Playing more qualifying games doesn't equal jack (Saudi & Iran is an example)

And God forbid, leave our AFCON biannually thank you

I have already given the reasons why. I know we like the regular owamgbe. If we had our way we would even do it annually.

Odunayaw:
Why? Playing more qualifying games doesn't equal jack (Saudi & Iran is an example)

And God forbid, leave our AFCON biannually thank you

I don’t have much time for long posts. I need to attend to my infant. It’s all about timing my friend. Should Senegal go the farthest they would have the bragging rights for now.

TheSuperNerd:
African Champion is not just a title. It is a symbol of being Africa's best because that champion beat the best to get there. They conquered at HOME.

South Korea for all they did in 2002 are still not reverred in the same league with Japan in international soccer. Japan trumps South Korea. They have had decent WC outings but have dominated their continents with Four titles. Iran have three titles. South Korea have the best WC showing for Asia but Japan trumps them because the balances of their performances on the continental and world stage is better compared to Korea.

This is why England is still not taken seriously in International football. They have a world title... They have been world champions once. But they are not rated among the Best Teams or biggest Guns in World football. Going into any major tournament be it Euros or Worlds, England is considered dark horses. And part of this is because they have never translated their WC win in 1966 into a European dominance within the European Continent.

This is why the best of both worlds is key. That is how you know the Best.

Russia 2018 WC Updates


As we all know, Suarez's goal puts Uruguay in the lead against Saudi Arabia.

Here is a Little stat on his milestone goal....

From Squawka football:

Luis Suárez has scored more goals for #URU than any other player in the nation's history.

52nd goal on his 100th cap. ��

"For now" is short term. England had the bragging rights in 1966 after all, until 1970 even. Where are they now?

We are talking sustained reputation not short term reputation.



I would rather we keep our eyes on both prizes. Doing well at home (on the African continent) and using that as an extra boost to push on against the world's best (on the world stage) rubbing shoulders with them and even "besting" them.

This is majorly how the best is measured. In both worlds. My hi to your little baby... Hope you enjoying Fatherhood

Joebie:
I don’t have much time for long posts. I need to attend to my infant. It’s all about timing my friend. Should Senegal go the farthest they would have the bragging rights for now.

Trace this discussion from the start. Fatherhood is a blessing. And thanks for askin!

TheSuperNerd:
"For now" is short term. England had the bragging rights in 1966 after all, until 1970 even. Where are they now?

We are talking sustained reputation not short term reputation.



I would rather we keep our eyes on both prizes. Doing well at home (on the African continent) and using that as an extra boost to push on against the world's best (on the world stage) rubbing shoulders with them and even "besting" them.

This is majorly how the best is measured. In both worlds. My hi to your little baby... Hope you enjoying Fatherhood

Lol funny.

But this saudis can play o. Sweet sleek football but no finisher. I wish we could play like this.

Joebie:
Na lie o Nerdie knows it all o

Mujtahida:

Egypt is the first country out. this highlights the importance of winning your first match. i really fear for nigeria

Nope! Egypt would be out if Uruguay beats Saudi Arabia. If Saudi Arabia wins Egypt are still in.


So officially the only country that have crashed out are still Morocco.

Losing your first two games does not always mean you have crashed out.

Sometimes 3points can be enough.

princfred:
Assuming thats true, how well did it work all the while during the friendlies? Wasn't that enough for him to know the players werent operating at their best?

Their game was very one-sided and predictable too -always to Moses on the right. Both Idowu ad Shehu never overlapping. Who wins a game like that?

As if we didn't play WC qualifiers before the friendlies.

Rohr played those 4 players you listed in their natural positions they have been playing for the Super Eagles even during friendlies.

Nothing like they being played our of positions.

Saudi Arabia has completely outplayed Uruguay today

isan:
Saudi Arabia has completely outplayed Uruguay today

But no serious goals threat to show for it.

That is very easy. And the simple point is a decent WC performance is not enough to crown the best in Africa. That team needs a good balance of success (represented in titles especially) on the continent and decent/fine showing at the mundial to earn the tag of being truly the best in Africa. Finito.

And yes... I asked because I understand that Parenthood is no easy job at all. It is not even a job... It is more than a job and a responsibility one must undertake carefully because parents play a good/huge part in helping to shape the next generation. So happy fatherhood.

Joebie:
Trace this discussion from the start. Fatherhood is a blessing. And thanks for askin!

Yes and that's what world cup is about u need goals to win game

Icon4s:


But no serious goals threat to show for it.

Like it would have been in 2010.

Icon4s:

Nope! Egypt would be out if Uruguay beats Saudi Arabia. If Saudi Arabia wins Egypt are still in.


So officially the only country that have crashed out are still Morocco.

Losing your first two games does not always mean you have crashed out.

Sometimes 3points can be enough.

Mujtahida:

i didnt mention Musa. but even at that playing iwobi in the middle because Musa is not effective is cheating ourselves. maximise iwobi where he is most effective. we can manage with Musa on the wings

Meaning "just put Iwobi at the center" you don't care who plays from the wings.

Nobody is saying Iwobi is better at the wings than at the center but what do you make of Iwobi as Mikel is favorite to start from the AM position?

I hope we allow Iceland to play and catch them on counter

TheSuperNerd:
Like it would have been in 2010.

You get it.

We lost our first 2 games in 2010 but just needed to beat Korea, in our last game to go through.

Egypt will crash out today if Uruguay wins. But if Saudi wins Egypt are still alive

Icon4s:


As if we didn't play WC qualifiers before the friendlies.

Rohr played those 4 players you listed in their natural positions they have been playing for the Super Eagles even during friendlies.

Nothing like they being played our of positions.

Those same players will win many Africa teams even with their wrong positioning. Thats not the standard. When they played Europeans and lost so much it was enogh indication that that positioning is nit the best for the players.

Sincerely if, even now with the results so far from friendly to the last game, you still don't know Mikel, Iwobi, Etebo and Moses where not playing in their best of positions then i cant dignify your responses with any more replies. Maybe Supernerd or anyone with more free time to waste can help your case.

Bolowolowo:
Fellow Eagalians, tomorrow, Argentina will face Croatia. What result can we realistically hope for. An Argentian win?

A draw

Joebie:
I have already given the reasons why. I know we like the regular owamgbe. If we had our way we would even do it annually.

owambe

That was never the discussion. You derailed at some point. Read my first reply and what you posted.

Fatherhood is a joy! Anything you do out of joy is easy. Other fathers may see it differently though. Different outlooks.

TheSuperNerd:
That is very easy. And the simple point is a decent WC performance is not enough to crown the best in Africa. That team needs a good balance of success (represented in titles especially) on the continent and decent/fine showing at the mundial to earn the tag of being truly the best in Africa. Finito.

And yes... I asked because I understand that Parenthood is no easy job at all. It is not even a job... It is more than a job and a responsibility one must undertake carefully because parents play a good/huge part in helping to shape the next generation. So happy fatherhood.

All this talk talk , what do we do to qualify 1st Fridays match! Make we pray oh. #sayalittleprayerforthesupereagles

Mujtahida:

i didnt mention Musa. but even at that playing iwobi in the middle because Musa is not effective is cheating ourselves. maximise iwobi where he is most effective. we can manage with Musa on the wings

Exactly, very simple. I dont know why anyone should dispute that.

Actually it was. You are one trying to give it a different color. The point from the beginning on my end was you need both worlds. WC performance is never enough.

And glad fatherhood is a Joy. Keep at it.

Joebie:
That was never the discussion. You derailed at some point. Read my first reply and what you posted.

Fatherhood is a joy! Anything you do out of joy is easy. Other fathers may see it differently though. Different outlooks.

Your first words below:

Joebie:
At the end of the day, the best team is the one who go farthest.

This was my reply:

The "most fortunate" actually. Ghana were "the best" at WC 2010 but have never conquered Africa with that Squad. The best in Africa are those who win the Afcon and can also try translate it on the world stage. It is unfortunate Cameroon were in our group in WC Qualifying.


See? It was always my stance throughout the discussion.

Look at how Saudi Arabia and Morocco are playing Uruguay and Portugal valiantly.

Icon4s:


Meaning "just put Iwobi at the center" you don't care who plays from the wings.

Nobody is saying Iwobi is better at the wings than at the center but what do you make of Iwobi as Mikel is favorite to start from the AM position?

habaaaaaaa, sir. so you still want mikel to play AM? has this thing not sunk in that Mikel has neither the lungs nor the legs to be our AM? lawd.

we have a winger in musa, etebo can also play there. please let iwobi play where he most fits. he is the nearest we have to a creative outlet in the team.
mikel can pair etebo, or ndidi or ogu as a deep lyinng playmaker.

mikel is a good no 6 but bad no 10- Mourinho

Icon4s:
I laugh when people say Iwobi is not effective from the wings so put him on the bench.

The alternative should be assigning him a more central role.

You cannot have a player with Iwobi's abilities in this kind of Super Eagles team and you start him on the bench.

Bench Iwobi and start Musa Kwa?

For d person mind him don make sense

Egypt and Saudi Arabia officially join Morocco in teams that have been eliminated

Mujtahida:

habaaaaaaa, sir. so you still want mikel to play AM? has this thing not sunk in that Mikel has neither the lungs nor the legs to be our AM? lawd.

we have a winger in musa, etebo can also play there. please let iwobi play where he most fits. he is the nearest we have to a creative outlet in the team.
mikel can pair etebo, or ndidi or ogu as a deep lyinng playmaker.

mikel is a good no 6 but bad no 10- Mourinho

As if it is not the same Mikel that played AM during the qualifiers.

Note again that Iwobi is not being played as a winger but as a Left or Right Attacking Midfielder.

So if Rohr chooses to start Mikel as the Central AM where would you rather Iwobi plays?

isan:
I hope we allow Iceland to play and catch them on counter

No, we have to play.

Samm Audu has been banned from the training sessions for leaking the first 11 against Croatia. I always felt that he was giving too much info. Our news outlets are competing with each other to release team list first even to the detriment of the team. If your opponent know your line-up 2-3 days before the match, they can prepare for you.

A foreign journalist, Annette Braun is now covering the Nigerian team training for FIFA.

CC:thesupernerd

Egypt and Morocco are out!

Can the remaining 3 African sides progress?