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Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by Maket: 4:26pm On Jun 25, 2018 |
Disappointed1: I asked you to change your name to appointment and watch how things will suddenly change for you. |
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by Disappointed1(m): 4:27pm On Jun 25, 2018 |
Maket: OK sir, meaning I should open another account because edit it |
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by HigherEd: 4:36pm On Jun 25, 2018 |
paxonel:So you are telling me that a person who believes in Jesus as lord and savior but is a serial rapist would make heaven? |
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by skydeexie(m): 4:56pm On Jun 25, 2018 |
paxonel: QUESTION: Are you saying there are no Christians who have fallen away from the faith? Is the bolded in Hebrews 4 talking about unbelievers? Then I need to be educated on this. Did all the Jews that left Egypt made it to the promised land? And the same Bible says we should learn from their mistakes. 1 Corinthians 10 Revised Standard Version (RSV) Warnings from Israel’s History 10 I want you to know, brethren, that our fathers were all under the cloud, and all passed through the sea, 2 and all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea, 3 and all ate the same supernatural[a] food 4 and all drank the same supernatural[b] drink. For they drank from the supernatural[c] Rock which followed them, and the Rock was Christ. 5 Nevertheless with most of them God was not pleased; for they were overthrown in the wilderness. 6 Now these things are warnings for us, not to desire evil as they did. 7 Do not be idolaters as some of them were; as it is written, “The people sat down to eat and drink and rose up to dance.” 8 We must not indulge in immorality as some of them did, and twenty-three thousand fell in a single day. 9 We must not put the Lord[d] to the test, as some of them did and were destroyed by serpents; 10 nor grumble, as some of them did and were destroyed by the Destroyer. 11 Now these things happened to them as a warning, but they were written down for our instruction, upon whom the end of the ages has come. 12 Therefore let any one who thinks that he stands take heed lest he fall. Question: Were these not all Children of Jacob and descendants of Abraham who believed in God and whom God called and promised to bless? |
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by Edu3Again: 5:00pm On Jun 25, 2018 |
paxonel: If u denounce Jesus, u have lost ur salvation. Jesus Himself said "IF U ENDURE TILL THE END";which means if u dont follow to the end , u go loose ur salvation. After all Judas Ischariot was an Apostle and he lost his salvation. |
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by jimaglory: 5:50pm On Jun 25, 2018 |
let us just pray for grace to live a righteous life so our names can be and remain on it Just learnt Mira Technologies is recruiting. The jobs are for Software Developer (intermediate) and Administrative Secretary/Assistant. www.miratechnologiesng.com |
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by Lilimax(f): 6:04pm On Jun 25, 2018 |
So true sir! Folks should guard their salvation jealously. So many have lost their salvation unknowingly; so many Ichabod walking around without knowing that the glory have departed tet-tey |
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by paxonel(m): 6:15pm On Jun 25, 2018 |
Edu3Again:very true! But that will not happen in a second as oyedepo is putting it 1 Like |
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by bloodofthelamb(m): 6:19pm On Jun 25, 2018 |
HigherEd: That means Jesus Christ can lose his salvation and his name blotted out. Because that is the only possible way a believer can fall. |
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by DavSagacity(m): 6:19pm On Jun 25, 2018 |
Charly68:Yes. Particularly Revelation Chapters 2 and 3 1 Like |
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by Chigold101(m): 6:20pm On Jun 25, 2018 |
HigherEd:Wommack and Joseph Prince are teaching 99% truth and 1% error and that error has led many youths astray. |
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by itsme9jaG(f): 6:23pm On Jun 25, 2018 |
paxonel: Matt 10.22 1 cor 9.24 Heb 12.1 Matt 7:21-24 |
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by DavSagacity(m): 6:27pm On Jun 25, 2018 |
paxonel:Yes Christ died for you once and for All. That's absolutely correct. However, if you go back and continue in the sins from which he saved you from, if you went back to continue to live in sin, to formulate and commit adultery ,to steal and to kill and eeath unfortunately meet you along the line before you could repent from those sins (because Grace has been abused) assuredly I say to you that there'll be no Grace after dead. So don't be deceived that ounces saved, forever Saved. it's the Greatest Lie from the pit of HELL |
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by bloodofthelamb(m): 6:29pm On Jun 25, 2018 |
loveformercy: Believers have, the incorruptible seed of God in them, hence cannot continue willfully in sin. God's desire have become their desire. So, where will the urge to practise evil act come from? 1 Like |
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by paxonel(m): 6:34pm On Jun 25, 2018 |
skydeexie:ofcourse there are Christians that have fallen away from the faith, but that didn't happen in one second. So there is nothing like Christians having their names removed from the boko of life every seconds. sorry, these children of Jacob and descendants of Abraham did not share the same covenant with christians, they couldn't possibly enjoy the Grace christians are enjoying today, so it is wrong to use their situation to analyze how God is judging christians. Look for something better to do the analysis. 1 Like |
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by bloodofthelamb(m): 6:41pm On Jun 25, 2018 |
DavSagacity: Did Christ die for sins or not? Sin cannever disqualify anybody. The only thing that will take many people to damnation is not believing and accepting whole-heartedly that, the Son of God was scourged and brutally wounded for your every sin. This knowledge only, will make you free from every sin and crown you with righteousness, which you could never have attained by your own will. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by paxonel(m): 6:46pm On Jun 25, 2018 |
HigherEd:it is understatement to say the person will make heaven. The person is already in heaven like that. This is not to encourage evil like rape, but the fact still remain that irrespective of what we do ...Whoever believes should not perish but have eternal life. It didn't say whoever believes should not perish but will have eternal life in the future. There is a definite clause . It's a free gift, not by works or by how righteous the individual is. Many at times oyedepo and the rest will downplay this fact and make certain statements that are wrong, but because they are men of God, we find ourselves ignoring their errors |
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by rabzy: 6:49pm On Jun 25, 2018 |
Just a couple of good acts does not put a name in the book of life, you must be a practicer of righteousness for the name to be, and also a couple of sins or mistakes does not take a name off, you have to become a practicer of wickedness, once committing sin becomes a way of life then the person name would be blotted out. And of course it is not a literal book. |
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by bloodofthelamb(m): 6:51pm On Jun 25, 2018 |
loveformercy: Bro, what of the sin you forgot to repent of? Are you sure you have trully confess every sin you might have committed today? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by DavSagacity(m): 6:56pm On Jun 25, 2018 |
bloodofthelamb:So what u are saying is once saved, forever Saved isn't it..?. I pity you my friend. Yes Christ Died for all Our sins Provided you provided you confessed the sins and forsoke them. You cannot continue in sin and say because Christ died for you sins and continue to sleep with your neighbours wife and continue to fornicate , commit adultery and steal. At the Cross, Christ paid the price for our sins 1000% AFFIRMATIVE. But must you continue in Sin that Grace may abound.? |
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by paxonel(m): 6:59pm On Jun 25, 2018 |
DavSagacity:you have agreed on this because it is scriptural but this one you have just said, it is never scriptural but assumption. Or do you have any bible reference? |
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by bloodofthelamb(m): 7:01pm On Jun 25, 2018 |
truefact: Someone who goes on doing evil, is it not ovious that, the said person is evil? He is a liar and has not the life and sperm(seed) of God in him. |
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by Fredmatic(m): 7:06pm On Jun 25, 2018 |
Dongreat:D scripture say he new is wife there not met, again it was his sister he took along, and again it was not a sin then, ( bcus no law) and can marry themselves. Ready the Genesis more you wil see where more children were born by Adam and eve, did u ask yourself where the other children got their wife and husband from? Or why God say populate and fill the earth? It was not a sin then until God gave them law and that is when it became sin if they do. I have answers you so I need my money |
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by Fredmatic(m): 7:06pm On Jun 25, 2018 |
Dongreat:D scripture say he new is wife (ie got her pregnant) there not met, again it was his sister he took along, and it was not a sin then, ( bcus no law) and can marry themselves. Ready the Genesis more you wil see where more children were born by Adam and eve, did u ask yourself where the other children got their wife and husband from? Or why God say populate and fill the earth? It was not a sin then until God gave them law and that is when it became sin if they do. I have answerd you so I need my money |
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by rabzy: 7:07pm On Jun 25, 2018 |
paxonel:Once saved is not always saved. In fact a salvation is not sure until the prize has been received and that is why by enduring to the end, salvation is attained. |
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by paxonel(m): 7:10pm On Jun 25, 2018 |
rabzy:bible reference please! Don't just talk because you hear people saying it |
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by bloodofthelamb(m): 7:11pm On Jun 25, 2018 |
DavSagacity: Anybody claiming to be a christian and continues in sin is not actually a christian. That person has not the seed of God in him. Whosover is born of God cannot continue in sin for, the seed and desire of God dwelleth in him. |
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by DavSagacity(m): 7:13pm On Jun 25, 2018 |
paxonel:Romans 6:1, Revelation Chapters 2 and 3 . Read it with u derstanding. |
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by bloodofthelamb(m): 7:16pm On Jun 25, 2018 |
HigherEd: A soul who has been "born of God" cannot be a serial rapist. Because the incorruptible life and nature of God is in him.. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by DavSagacity(m): 7:16pm On Jun 25, 2018 |
bloodofthelamb:Yes. Though You seem confused. Your reply has no correlation with the comment i responded to. kindly go back and read my post or comments before u quote me. Thanks |
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by Dongreat(m): 7:24pm On Jun 25, 2018 |
Fredmatic: Tried but not the answer. Since no one can answer then the answer can be found in a book that was exempted from the bible called the “book of jubilees”. And you can google the book. Answer is found in “Jubilee 4:1-18” My point is the bible is just a book written by men who are clever scholars not holy field. |
Re: Bishop Oyedepo: "A Christian Can Lose His Salvation" by rabzy: 7:24pm On Jun 25, 2018 |
paxonel:Indeed hebrews 10 Vs 26 to 32. Rev 2v10, Rev 3v 11 and 12. 1cor9vs24 to 27 |
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