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Re: Yes! This Is The Right Time For Millions Of Christians To Embrace Islam by Nobody: 5:03am On Jun 25, 2018 |
When Jesus commissioned the preaching and teaching work, most of His followers find it so difficult to carry out because it was uncommon to them so they needed something to energise them in doing this, that's why Jesus promised that God's Holy Spirit will comfort them to do this work and that later many will soon get used to it. Even till today most religious people believe in the media to propagate their Faith,so when they now see someone coming to knock on their doors uninvited just to discuss about God's word, they'll send them away and many even results to having intense hatred for them.Matthew 10:22 Jesus said "i did not come to abolish the laws but to fulfill it" Matthew 5:17 What exactly did Jesus meant by this statement? Because if taken seriously and carefully, Jesus was abolishing what these people knew before as religious practices and traditions! In reality Jesus came to establish the one and only form of worship that will save mankind during God's day of judgement. How? I was a Muslim,taught to believe that Christians aren't worshipping because they have NO form of worship unlike Muslims who practices five Salat daily,so i believe and preached this everywhere i go. But when i studied about Jesus carefully, i realized that He wasn't referring to the Salat at all. He was teaching people what will be acceptable and applicable in Paradise,confirming that those who failed to abide to OR comply with this standards will not be permitted to see Paradise! He also taught His followers to go and do the same.Matthew 10:3-26 28:19,20 This is in fulfilment of what an ancient prophet prophesied regarding how to recognize PURE WORSHIP in the last days! Malachi is the name of the prophet, in his prophecy he made it clear that we will notice a religious group in the endtime sparing their PRECIOUS times going about discussing with their neighbors about God,HIS ñame and how to please HIM. Malachi didn't just end it there but went on to say "it will serve as a SIGN for those who want to IDENTIFY true worshippers of the one and only true God!" Malachi 3:16-18 Of all those claiming worshippers of God today it's only Jehovah's witnesses that is doing this and no wonder God promised them that there is no religious doctrine or ideology that will defeat their WISDOM and POWER of discernment.Isaiah 54:17 God bless you! |
Re: Yes! This Is The Right Time For Millions Of Christians To Embrace Islam by Abdulgaffar22: 10:48am On Jun 25, 2018 |
According to Genesis 1:1-26 and Psalm 33:6, 9 God created all things by series of commands coming from God’s mouth; not from Jesus’ mouth. If God created all things through Jesus Christ , then what actual role did Jesus play in assisting God? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Yes! This Is The Right Time For Millions Of Christians To Embrace Islam by Abdulgaffar22: 10:51am On Jun 25, 2018 |
According to Genesis 1:1-26 and Psalm 33:6, 9
God created all things by series of commands
coming from God’s mouth; not from Jesus’
mouth. If God created all things through Jesus
Christ , then what actual role did Jesus play in
assisting God? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Yes! This Is The Right Time For Millions Of Christians To Embrace Islam by Abdulgaffar22: 10:53am On Jun 25, 2018 |
According to Genesis 1:1-26 and Psalm 33:6, 9
God created all things by series of commands
coming from God’s mouth; not from Jesus’
mouth. If God created all things through Jesus
Christ , then what actual role did Jesus play in
assisting God? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Yes! This Is The Right Time For Millions Of Christians To Embrace Islam by ZKOSOSO(m): 10:56am On Jun 25, 2018 |
Abdulgaffar22: Spiritual things are not for your human discerning. Stop comparing Sensual with spiritual. Get a life..!! Islam is not Christianity. Islam is sensually appealing only to human intelligence. Nothing more. Life in Christ cannot be comprehended by any Muslim not even Mohammad himself. That was why he could not perform any miracle except making heads falling off people necks with his sword..! Quoting Bible and Quran upandan won't help u. Come to Jesus today. God speaks to me. Yes God does. I speak with God in prayers and with his word. These are stuff Allah cannot do to any Slaving Muslims. May Jesus Open your Eyes to know the Darkness in Islam. 1 Like |
Re: Yes! This Is The Right Time For Millions Of Christians To Embrace Islam by Abdulgaffar22: 12:13pm On Jun 25, 2018 |
You are just wasting your time in following a fake Jesus( Matthew 24:4-5) for true Jesus said; I was sent ONLY to the lost sheep of Israel( Matthew 15:24). May God Almighty open your eyes. Many will say to me in that day ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and done many wonders in your name? And then I will declare to them; I never knew you, depart from me, you who practice lawlessness (Matthew 7:22-23). See how you will be disowned and rejected by Jesus on the Day of Judgment! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Yes! This Is The Right Time For Millions Of Christians To Embrace Islam by Abdulgaffar22: 12:58pm On Jun 25, 2018 |
yes 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Yes! This Is The Right Time For Millions Of Christians To Embrace Islam by Nobody: 2:14pm On Jun 25, 2018 |
Abdulgaffar22:It's easy to understand,God didn't need anyone's help but since you grasp that God was giving commands then why not think of the person acting on the commands? Jesus was the first creature directly made by Jehovah and so He is so perfect that God was commanding Him to do everything. "Let there be light" could still be assumed that God was speaking to nobody but "let us make man in our own image" is clear that God was speaking to someone! Genesis 1:3,26 The problem is that as long as you're still setting your minds on the thoughts of Muhammad who knew nothing about the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob that inspired those who write this words you'll continue to be confused. In fact there are some writers that God even told not to disturb their brains concerning what HE is inspiring them to pen down because it's not yet time to reveal the secret! Daniel 12:8-10 So if the writer wasn't granted the meaning of the inspired writings, how can Muhammad (Arabian) who lived far away,not there contemporary and wasn't baptized with the Holy Spirit get any sense of the messages? That's why those not following the one and only organization under God's supervision can grasp it including those who are just claiming Christians without knowing the true meaning of Christianity! |
Re: Yes! This Is The Right Time For Millions Of Christians To Embrace Islam by Nobody: 2:34pm On Jun 25, 2018 |
Abdulgaffar22:The bitter truth is that Satan launched so many religious groups just to complicate things so they're all claiming to be worshipping the God of Israel,some even calling the name of Jesus but they're all heading towards destruction because they're indirectly worshipping Satan unknowingly! To worship God acceptably a person needs knowledge about the true God, how HE introduced HIMSELF to mankind? who are those HE dealt with in the past? How did He treat with them? What are the things that irritates HIM and what are the things that pleases HIM? and so on. Whoever knows nothing about these things can't worship the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Notice that HE always call HIMSELF the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob so whoever wants to know HIM is given the race to contact in other to learn from them. John 17:3 |
Re: Yes! This Is The Right Time For Millions Of Christians To Embrace Islam by Nobody: 2:55pm On Jun 25, 2018 |
It's not about argument,it's about knowing those who will explain what the Bible is saying for you. If anyone picks up the Quran now and start reading to argue the Islamic scholars of course i trust our Imams and Sheiks they'll say he must come to them for the meaning but Muslims will just pick a Bible and start arguing because they've read it, whereas there are thousands of verses in the Bible that a Muslim will say it's not inspired because he can't grasp the meaning! If you want to understand the sacred secrets in the Bible, just welcome Jehovah's witnesses and study the Bible with them. It's not going to turn you to Christian but you'll know what Christianity truly means! |
Re: Yes! This Is The Right Time For Millions Of Christians To Embrace Islam by Nobody: 3:14pm On Jun 25, 2018 |
Abdulgaffar22:The Bible explains how angels rebelled against Jehovah and started establishing different forms of worship in opposition against the true God, this totally contradicts what Muhammad taught people that God gave Satan the order to go and confuse people. Muhammad taught people that Adam and Eve were living in heaven before God drove them down but we're they living with animals in heaven before then? What was the reason for driving them down? Were they made to die? What is the condition of the dead now? Can they hear us, help us or be helped? God gave Adam one wife, when did HE told men to start marrying more women? There are different nations with their powerful Gods,from where comes those Gods? Please to all these and many more thought provoking questions Jehovah's witnesses will help you find answers in the Bible (God's word)! |
Re: Yes! This Is The Right Time For Millions Of Christians To Embrace Islam by Abdulgaffar22: 3:34pm On Jun 25, 2018 |
Honestly you have to study Bible with great care to understand the whole truth. Many have tempered with the Bible to distort the true mission of Jesus christ. Please read below to see the forgery behind matthew 28:19 If Jesus (pbuh) was actually the last prophet of God sent to the entire world, then why did he have to say: I WAS NOT SENT EXCEPT TO THE LOST SHEEP OF THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL (Matthew 15:24)? Now compare this Biblical verse with this Qur’anic verse; And We have not sent you (O Muhammad- pbuh) except as a giver of glad tidings and as a Warner to all mankind, but most men do not know (Qur’an 34:28). See how Bible categorically declared that Jesus (pbuh) was sent only to the Israelites and see how Qur’an declared that Muhammad (pbuh) was sent to all mankind! There is no any indication in that Biblical verse that Jesus (pbuh) would later have anything to do with the Non- Israelites. In fact, when Jesus (pbuh) was sending out his apostles for evangelical mission, he also warned them categorically to avoid preaching to the Gentiles i:e the Non-Israelites: THESE TWELVE JESUS SENT FORTH, AND COMMANDED THEM,SAYING, GO NOT INTO THE WAY OF THE GENTILES,AND INTO ANY CITY OF THE SAMARITANS ENTER YE NOT: BUT GO RATHER TO THE LOST SHEEP OF THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL (Matthew 10:5-6). This further corroborates the fact that Jesus was sent only to the Israelites. But many of the Christian scholars proclaimed that this command of not preaching to the Gentiles was later cancelled and replaced by new command of preaching to all the nations in Matthew 28:19, where Jesus was reported to have commanded the apostles to make disciples of all nations. Therefore, according to these Christian scholars, Jesus (pbuh) who was originally sent only to the Israelites later became the last prophet sent to the entire world. But should we really accept Matthew 28:19 as the actual word of Jesus (pbuh)? If the apostles were later instructed by Jesus to preach the gospel to all the nations of the world as spuriously stated in Matthew 28:19, then why did Peter have to tell some of the Gentiles (Cornelius and his households) that sent for him as follows; YOU ARE WELL AWARE THAT IT IS AGAINST OUR LAW FOR A JEW TO ASSOCIATE WITH OR VISIT A GENTILE. BUT GOD HAS SHOWN ME THAT I SHOULD NOT CALL ANYONE IMPURE OR UNCLEAN (Acts 10:28 NIV)? This very incident occurred many years after Jesus’ departure from this world. Was Peter, who happened to be a Jewish man, not aware of the Jesus’ new command of preaching to all the nations stated in Matthew 28:19? Then why did peter have to say it is unlawful for him to associate with or visit a Gentile i:e the Non-Israelite after Jesus departure? Has he forgotten such a very great and important command in Matthew 28:19? Very hard to believe! The fact that the other apostles also criticized peter and became astonished when they overheard that Peter later honored the invitation of those Gentiles ( Acts 11:1-18) prove further that Peter and other apostles were completely unaware of the Jesus’ new command of preaching to all the nations in Matthew 28:19; Not that they had all forgotten. How could all apostles have forgotten such a very great and important command from their master? Even when Peter was justifying his visitation to those gentiles, he only defended himself and convinced the other apostles by making reference to the vision he had before he received the message from those Gentiles (Acts 10:1-28, 11:4-18) instead of simply reminding the other apostles about the so-called new command in Matthew 28:19. After Jesus ascension to heaven, Jesus’ apostles understood the command of not preaching to the gentiles so well that even under intense persecution, they refused to leave Jerusalem (Acts 8:1). In fact, those disciples under the authority of the Jesus’ apostles who were forced to leave Jerusalem preached the gospel message to none except the Jews (Acts 11:19) and the Hellenists (Acts 11:20).Hellenists are the Greek- speaking Jews living in Greece. King James Version of the Bible called them Grecians (Acts 11:20 KJV) and New international version called them Greeks (Acts 11:20 NIV). But International standard version of the Bible reveal their true identity by calling them Hellenistic Jews (Acts 11:20 ISV). Ellicott and John-gill’s commentaries on this very verse (Acts 11:20) also confirm that these people were most likely to be Jews. You can Google search for parallel verses of Acts 11:20 on the internet to confirm all these facts. Moreover, if it was already in the divine plan ( i:e before Jesus came into the world) that the command of not preaching to the Gentiles in Matthew 10:5-6 would later be cancelled and replaced by the new command of preaching to all the nations in Matthew 28:19, then Jesus’ statement in Matthew 15:24 should have been; “IT IS NOT YET TIME FOR THE GENTILES” or something similar in meaning, rather than; “I WAS NOT SENT EXCEPT TO THE LOST SHEEP OF THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL”. All these facts are enough to prove that the new command of preaching to all the nations attributed to Jesus in Matthew 28:19 and other similar verses like it in other books of the New Testament are nothing but forgery. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Yes! This Is The Right Time For Millions Of Christians To Embrace Islam by enilove(m): 4:52pm On Jun 25, 2018 |
Abdulgaffar22: YOU CLAIMED THE BIBLE WAS CORUPTED AND YET YOU ARE REFERENCING THE BIBLE TO PROVE YOUR POINTS. WHEN , WHERE AND HOW WAS THE TRUTH OF JESUS TAMPERED WITH? MUHAMMAD AND THE WHOLE LAND OF ARABIA HAD COPIES OF THE BIBLE , WHY HAVE THEY NOT BEEN ABLE TO PICK ONE OF THOSE ANCIENT BIBLES AND COMPARED IT WITJ WHAT WE HAVE NOW ? IF THE COPIES MUHAMMAD READ FROM WERE CORRUPTED ,WHY DID MUHAMMAD USE IT AND NOT DISCARD IT OR ASK THEM TO BURN THE ARABIAN COPIES AS THEY DID TO QURAN? The Bible is the words of God but the Quran is words of Satan. From the beginning the Quran is a falsehood : Allah SWT says: وَإِذَا بَدَّلْنَآ ءَايَةً مَّكَانَ ءَايَةٍ ۙ وَاللَّهُ أَعْلَمُ بِمَا يُنَزِّلُ قَالُوٓا إِنَّمَآ أَنْتَ مُفْتَرٍ ۚ بَلْ أَكْثَرُهُمْ لَا يَعْلَمُونَ "And when We substitute a verse in place of a verse - and Allah is most knowing of what He sends down - they say, "You, [O Muhammad], are but an inventor [of lies]." But most of them do not know." (QS. An-Nahl: Verse 101) AT LEAST YOU CAN READ FROM YOUR QURAN THAT ALLAH DID NOT KNOW THE TRUTH AND HAD TO SUBSTITUTE OR CHANGE HIS STATEMENTS TO THE EXTENT THAT THE PEOPLE CALLED MUHAMMAD AN INVENTOR OF LIES. WHY DON'T YOU GO AND DEAL WITH THE CORRUPTION IN THE QURAN BEFORE TALKING ABOUT THE BIBLE YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND . THAT IS KNOWN AS HYPOCRISY. 1 Like |
Re: Yes! This Is The Right Time For Millions Of Christians To Embrace Islam by plainbibletruth: 6:06pm On Jun 25, 2018 |
enilove:Abdulgaffar knows he's being mischievous. Claiming on one hand that the Bible is corrupted and using portions of the same to want to justify his position or argument is outrightly dishonest. Like it's said: "You cannot eat your cake and have it" Therefore no seriously minded person will take him serious. Maybe he is hoping to win over some dummies. Islam thrives in DECEPTION. Abdulgaffar is shappening his deception skills here. 2 Likes |
Re: Yes! This Is The Right Time For Millions Of Christians To Embrace Islam by Nobody: 8:38pm On Jun 25, 2018 |
Your question is the same ever raised by Islamic scholars, Jesus said i was sent to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Instead of asking what that means, Muslims concluded that it's Muhammad that was sent to the whole world as the last prophet. But there is a great difference between the two of them. You only need to understand why Jesus said so and concluded with the whole earth in Matthew 28:19. I've told you that you must study the Bible with a plain mind and with the true Christians before you can fully grasp the overall message. Jesus wasn't sent to the whole world means a lot and it's only the true Christians that can explain that verse for you to understand, i've given you so much clues to see that there is still a lot you're missing if you fail to IDENTIFY the true Christians! |
Re: Yes! This Is The Right Time For Millions Of Christians To Embrace Islam by Nobody: 9:40pm On Jun 25, 2018 |
God promised that by means of Abraham's offspring the whole earth will be blessed(Genesis 22:18) Abraham had eight sons out of which the promise was transferred to Isaac(Genesis 17:19) Isaac had two sons out of which it was transferred to Jacob(Israel)(Genesis 35:10-12)Israel had twelve sons out of which it was transferred to Judah(Genesis 49:10) so all Israelites kept expecting someone to declare himself as the Messiah from the lineage of Judah until Jesus was born miraculously by a virgin as spoke by Isaiah the prophet(Isaiah 7:14)There is a government that God promised that the Messiah Will head forever under God's direction(Isaiah 9:6,7 Daniel 2:44)this government will have 144,000 co~rulers 12,000 from each of the 12 tribes of Israel.(Revelations 7:4- This is the work Jesus actually came to do as in gathering these co~rulers and training them on how to rule in righteousness,they must learn from Him humility and self sacrificing spirit,all of them must belong to the race that has kept the original Temple going till the arrival of the Messiah,the northern 10 tribes of Israel called Samaritans have abandoned the Temple to start another kind of worship but God was not pleased with such disorder. That is why Jesus told His followers not to go to any other tribe not even Samaria(Northen ten tribes of Israel) but to the Jews alone for the selection of His co~rulers to be completed, then it is these ones that will gather other tribes for salvation! That was God's original plan for HIS Kingdom to be established under the kingship of the promised Messiah. But the Jews rejected Jesus so the invitation was extended to Samaritans,later Gentile nations also accepted Christianity with eagerness so the invitation was blown open to all other nations to become partakers as co~rulers with Jesus. Read and meditate on the parable at Matthew 13:24-30 1 Like |
Re: Yes! This Is The Right Time For Millions Of Christians To Embrace Islam by enilove(m): 9:42pm On Jun 25, 2018 |
Riofidelio: DO NOT MIND THE O.P. , HE QOUTED THESE Matthew 15:24 KJV But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Matthew 10:5-6 KJV These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: [6] But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. BUT DECIDED NOT TO CONSIDER THIS : Acts 1:4-8 KJV And, being assembled together with them , commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he , ye have heard of me. [5] For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence. [6] When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? [7] And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power. [8] But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be WITNESSES unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the UTTERMOST PART OF THE EARTH. Are the above scriptures not spoken by Jesus ? |
Re: Yes! This Is The Right Time For Millions Of Christians To Embrace Islam by Nobody: 10:29pm On Jun 25, 2018 |
Whatever God purpose to do can't be thwarted,it's the one who fails that will be removed from the arrangement. Isaiah 55:10,11 So when Jesus said the kingdom has been taken away from the Jews and given to another nation producing it's fruits, He was referring to the Christians who comprises of both circumcised and uncircumcised people. These ones were obedient to the Messiah (the promised King) even in the face of fierce persecution, therefore when God condemned Jerusalem as the center of HIS government(Matthew 23:37) Jesús' followers became confused and started looking at Him thinking "where are we going to stay with you to rule as king over the earth?" That is why He promised them that He is going back to where He came from (heaven) to go and PREPARE a place for them so that it will be exactly where He's staying that they will stay to rule with Him. When they first heard this, they didn't find it pleasing because that wasn't what they were taught before then. Never has anything like going to heaven to live occurred to anybody so they really needed a lot of explanations on how this will happen. So Muhammad heard from the Roman Catholics(the only religion claiming Christians in his lifetime) that faithful people are going to heaven thinking that is the reward for all faithful servants of God but he missed it because it's ONLY those trained by Jesus to rule with humility and self sacrificing Spirit that are going to heaven, even John the Baptist whom Jesus said is the greatest of all the prophets is excluded because he never received training from Jesus the Messiah! Matthew 11:11 These onse must undergo double baptism,by water (which is compulsory for all Christians) and by spirit (which is only for those who are going to live in heaven as Spirit beings) they're the ones Jesus referred to as BORN AGAIN! John 3:3,7 Whoever is not called to become one of them but presumptuously taught he belongs to that class will die prematurely 1Corinthians 11:27-30 compared to Matthew 22:12,13 All faithful servants of old along with other Christians who aren't born again belong to the group Jesus called the other sheep(John 10:16) They are the great crowd that John saw in the Bible book of Revelations after the 144,000 heavenly co~rulers of Jesus! Revelations 7:9 This ones are those who will benefit from the rulership of Jesus and His co~rulers,they will live on a cleansed earth.14:6 So for further details please contact Jehovah's witnesses in your neighborhood to know more about the utterances of Jesus, don't let those who knew nothing about all these mislead you because they can never grasp the meaning! |
Re: Yes! This Is The Right Time For Millions Of Christians To Embrace Islam by Nobody: 10:59pm On Jun 25, 2018 |
enilove:I understood him perfectly because i was also a Muslim so if anyone is quoting that verse all he needs is clear explanation since that's the ONLY verse the Arabs are misquoting to confuse those who want to know what Jesus taught people about everlasting life! Muhammad knew nothing than the Roman Catholic Church and since he could sense that there is a lot of blunders in Catholicism he seized the opportunity to establish his own thinking God will accept it. That's why Muslims always say "Aleisalat asalam" after mentioning the name of any prophet in the Bible this means(those already approved by God) but for Muhammad they'll say "Salalau aleiwasalam" meaning(may the peace of God be with him) So Muhammad already gave them clues to discern that he wasn't sure of what he's doing, unlike Jesus who said with triple assurance "all powers has been given me both in heaven and on earth!" Matthew 28:18 It's unthinkable for anyone no matter how stupid such a person is to say a prayer for Jesus to be blessed or to have peace because Jesus Christ is the ORIGINAL prince of peace! But if Gaffar has resolved to continue being a Muslim it's OK, what i know is that i've done my part since he is open to discussion unlike most of them who only listens to their Imams and Sheiks without a careful consideration of what others have to say. Thanks may the true God bless you! 1 Like |
Re: Yes! This Is The Right Time For Millions Of Christians To Embrace Islam by Abdulgaffar22: 3:30pm On Jun 26, 2018 |
Yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, THROUGH WHOM ALL THINGS CAME and through whom we live.( 1st Corinthians 8:6). For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; ALL THINGS HAVE BEEN CREATED THROUGH him and for him ( Colossians 1:16). THROUGH him ALL THINGS WERE MADE ; without him nothing was made that has been made (John 1:3) But is it really true that God created all things through Jesus christ ? Let see what God Almighty say about this matter ; "This is what the LORD says, your Redeemer and the one who formed you in the womb: 'I am the LORD, who has made everything, who ALONE stretched out the heavens, who spread out the earth -WHO WAS WITH ME AT THAT TIME? (Isaiah 44:24)". "MY OWN HAND laid the foundations of the earth, and MY RIGHT HAND spread out the heavens; when I summon them, they all stand up together. (Isaiah 48:13)". As you can see from above, Paul and John proclaimed that God created all things THROUGH Jesus Christ. But God Almighty Himself declare that He created all things ALL ALONE, BY HIS OWN HANDS AND NOBODY WAS WITH HIM. What better words do we expect God to use before we can believe that He created the heavens and the earth without the aid of Jesus Christ? Here we can see how Paul and John contradict God Almighty on the issue of creation of things 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Yes! This Is The Right Time For Millions Of Christians To Embrace Islam by Nobody: 3:46pm On Jun 26, 2018 |
Abdulgaffar22:OK please then can you explain with whom God spoke in Genesis 1:26? and Proverbs 8:22-34? Or should we also conclude that both Moses (Genesis inspired writer) and Solomon (Proverbs inspired writer) also contradicts God Almighty on the issue of creation that there was someone beside God as well? In as much as i appreciate Muslims a lot,there's always this idea that Islamic clerics championed that they're open to discussion and ready to reason from the scriptures but far from the truth they're just out to enforce Muhammad's thinking on others! God did everything alone because all the ideas came from HIM but HE made use of someone that HE first created period! In Islam we were taught that before God created Adam HE sent messengers to go and bring the dust from the ground, i'm sure you're not ignorant of that so what are we to call those messengers with whom HE was talking? My friend if Muhammad taught the truth and you truly believe him since he has done everything possible to make you believe there was no one beside God during creation(in other to discard the idea that Jesus is greater than all the prophets including Muhammad himself that's trying to force himself into the list) please go and confront all Muslims first and let them know your stand that God was all alone during creation then you can come back and argue about what is in the Bible! |
Re: Yes! This Is The Right Time For Millions Of Christians To Embrace Islam by Abdulgaffar22: 4:09pm On Jun 26, 2018 |
In Genesis 1:26, God was talking to the angels because it was the angels that gather the clay used to create Adam. Proverb 8:22-34 was talking about the wisdom of God. Dont you know that if Jesus is our immediate creator, then it deserve to be worshipped according to Revelation 14:7. Yet only God deserved to be worshipped. The sole reason why God deserve our worshipped is because He is the one that created us. Again, the only reason why false gods do not deserve our worship is because they did not create anything. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Yes! This Is The Right Time For Millions Of Christians To Embrace Islam by Abdulgaffar22: 5:00pm On Jun 26, 2018 |
In Genesis 1:26, God was talking to the angels
because it was the angels that gather the clay
used to create Adam. Proverb 8:22-34 was
talking about the wisdom of God. Dont you know
that if Jesus is our immediate creator, then it
deserve to be worshipped according to Revelation
14:7. Yet only God deserved to be worshipped.
The sole reason why God deserve our worshipped
is because He is the one that created us. Again,
the only reason why false gods do not deserve
our worship is because they did not create
anything. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Yes! This Is The Right Time For Millions Of Christians To Embrace Islam by Abdulgaffar22: 5:02pm On Jun 26, 2018 |
In Genesis 1:26, God was talking to the angels because it was the angels that gather the clay used to create Adam. Proverb 8:22-34 was talking about the wisdom of God. Dont you know that if Jesus is our immediate creator, then he deserve to be worshipped according to Revelation 14:7. Yet only God deserved to be worshipped. The sole reason why God deserve our worshipped is because He is the one that created us. Again, the only reason why false gods do not deserve our worship is because they did not create anything. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Yes! This Is The Right Time For Millions Of Christians To Embrace Islam by Nobody: 7:11pm On Jun 26, 2018 |
It was Muhammad himself that made me a Christian because he admonished faithfuls to search diligently for the truth no matter what it will cost them! He thought he has outwitted the Catholics regarding discernment to talk about God but unknowingly to Muhammad himself Catholicism has nothing to do with the truth in God's. So if Muhammad was a contemporary of Jesus' Apostles probably he would join them knowing that their teachings surpasses all the knowledge of other religious groups put together, that is if truthfully he is searching for the true God because the true God is not interested in disorder! But he decided to establish his own thinking God will accept it though an illiterate who love to distinguish between right and wrong in worship,perceiving all the blunders in Catholicism wasn't enough reason for him to start fabricating all these on his own. Sorry, he is an accursed person that's why he performed NO signs to be IDENTIFIED along those already blessed by God. Aleisalatuasalam (those who have entered God's rest) Salalaualeiwasalam (may the peace of God be with him) The first is what Muhammad taught all Muslims to keep saying whenever a name of any Israelite prophet is mentioned because he knew they've received God's approval, the second is what you must say for Muhammad because he's not sure if God will approve him! |
Re: Yes! This Is The Right Time For Millions Of Christians To Embrace Islam by Nobody: 7:28pm On Jun 26, 2018 |
Abdulgaffar22:Great! So God was sending someone or some persons to do some things as in participants during the work of creation! and there was no place in the Bible that stipulates that Genesis 1:26 was a conversation between God and angels as in "many". Proverbs 8:22 reads from my own copy of the Bible "Jehovah produced me in the beginning of HIS works" so please explain how God's wisdom is speaking independently of God because it's clear that the one speaking here can't be Solomon (the inspired writer) neither is it God HIMSELF if not someone else apart from God! Or are you now in agreement with the Trinity ideology |
Re: Yes! This Is The Right Time For Millions Of Christians To Embrace Islam by Nobody: 7:57pm On Jun 26, 2018 |
You can only explain what you've been taught my friend. The God in question is not the God of Saudi Arabia so a man from Saudi Arabia can't explain HIS activities for you to understand, HE is the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob, all these inspired writings were penned down by Israelites (Jacob's descendants) so you can't start arguing against what is written boldly in a book from Israel simply because you want to follow Muhammad who has nothing to do with that race yet claims to be a prophet of that same God but failed to grasp the message during his own time! If Muhammad claims to be inspired by the same God then he must not contradict what 40 inspired writers from the same nation penned down, all he needs is to humble himself to learn from the Jews what is contained in their book! Zechariah 8:23 |
Re: Yes! This Is The Right Time For Millions Of Christians To Embrace Islam by Nobody: 8:34pm On Jun 26, 2018 |
Abdulgaffar22:Revelation 14:7 gave Jehovah all the glory because everything created was was according to Jehovah's instructions! I've explained to you before that a landlord will take all the praise for the beauty and magnificence of his house but craftsmen were used during the construction. Jesus served as that craftsman(Proverbs 8:30) You'll continue to get confused the more if you're banking on what Muhammad taught his congregants, for example you were against John's record at John 1:1,14 3:16-18 but you're now quoting the same John's record in Revelations 14:7 perhaps you don't know that both books were written by the same John! So is John's records to be regarded as inspired or not Just like my former Imam who quoted Paul's record about women covering their heads to support Islam but condemns Paul's letters because it's always against Islamic ideologies. The funny thing is that there is no other scripture that says women must cover their heads unless Paul's writings, what a pity for Islam |
Re: Yes! This Is The Right Time For Millions Of Christians To Embrace Islam by Abdulgaffar22: 8:56pm On Jun 26, 2018 |
But be it so, I did not burden you: nevertheless being CRAFTY, I caught you with DECEIT. (2 Corinithians 12:16) CURSED be he that does the work of the Lord DECEITFULLY ( Jeremiah 48:10) Based on these two verses, have you now agreed with me that it was Paul that is accursed by God not the prophet of Islam. Remember; out of 27 books in the NT, only Paul wrote 13 ( i:e almost half) . This prove clearly the reason why God did not ENDORSE the entire Bible because God can never open His eyes to allow His UNADULTERATED words to be endorsed together with the word of an accursed apostle. Therefore ,the word "Bible" cannot be found inside the Bible. In other words, there is no a single verse in the Bible coming directly from God’s mouth that would establish divine origin for the WHOLE of the Bible. This simply shows that selection and compilation of all the books in the Bible was not something commissioned by God Almighty. Therefore, the reason why Catholic Bible contains seven more books than the Protestant Bible is now clear to us. But does the Qur’an suffer similar problem? Certainly not! Beside the fact that Qur’an unite all its part together by making reference to its self as an entity called Qur’an (i:e the word “Qur’an” is found inside the Qur’an) in more than seventy places (in places like Qur’an 17:88, 10:37, 38:1, 47:24, 36:2, 50:1, 59:21 etc); there are also many verses coming directly from God’s mouth which establish the divine origin for the whole of the Qur’an. Examples of such verses are as follows “O children of Israel! Remember My favor which I bestowed upon you, and fulfill your covenant with Me as I fulfill My covenant with you, and fear none but Me. And believe in what I HAVE SENT DOWN ( i:e this Qur’an) confirming that which is with you, and be not the first to reject it, nor sell My verses for a small price; and fear Me, and Me alone(Qur’an 2:40-41). WE HAVE NOT SENT DOWN QUR'AN unto you (O Muhammad-pbuh) to cause you distress. But only as a reminder to those who fear God. A revelation from Him who created the earth and the high heavens (Qur’an 20:2-3). You can see that all the first person pronouns like "I , MY, ME and WE” in the verses of Qur’an quoted above can never be referred CONTEXTUALLY to any other person except God. Also take note of the phrase " SENT DOWN" . Other examples of similar verses can be found in Qur’an 15:9, 12:2-3, 21:10.50, 35:31-32, 17:105-106 16:101-103, 6:92 etc. However, example of such verses “coming directly from God’s mouth which would establish divine origin for the WHOLE of the Bible” cannot be found inside the Bible. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Yes! This Is The Right Time For Millions Of Christians To Embrace Islam by Abdulgaffar22: 9:12pm On Jun 26, 2018 |
The major problem with Christianity is explained below. Please ponder over it very well. This problem alone is enough for any wise person to discover that christianity is fake. Condemnation of an innocent and righteous soul for the sins he has never committed is illogical and act of injustice that is clearly forbidden in the Bible (Matthew 12:7, Proverb 17:15, Exodus 23:7, Psalm 34:22). Besides, Bible make it clear that any one that is crucified is accursed by God ( Galatians 3:13). How then are we to conceive a merciful God putting His beloved prophet under His curse when God of course knew that Jesus never did anything wrong? A beloved prophet of God under the curse of God? What a contradiction ! God must have chosen a more rational way to earn our salvation ( other than cursing and condemning His beloved prophet) if truly He is All-powerful and All-knowing creator that planned everything from begining to end. Yes, the rational way which God has chosen to earn our salvation is sincere repentance: “Son of man, say to the Israelites; this is what you are saying: our offenses and sins weigh us down, and we are wasting away because of them. How then can we live? Say to them: as surely as I live declares the sovereign Lord, I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn from their ways and live. Turn! Turn from your evil ways! Why will you die, people of Israel? Therefore, son of man say to your people… if someone, one who is wicked, REPENTS, that person’s former wickedness will not bring condemnation… And if I say to the wicked person, you will surely die, but they then turn from their sins and do what is just and right…follow the decree that gives life, and do no evil--THAT PERSON WILL SURELY LIVE :THEY WILL NOT DIE. NONE OF THE SINS that person has committed will be remembered against them.They have done what is just and right; they will surely live(Ezekiel 33:10-16)" . You can see that God did not ask the wicked sinners to believe in Jesus crucifixion before their sins can be forgiven (or before they can live) in all these verses. What He actually wants from them is sincere repentance from their sinful ways. Qur'an also pass the same message: O you who believe! Turn to Allah with sincere repentance! It may be that your Lord will remit from you your sins, and admit you into Gardens under which rivers flow (Qur'an 66: 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Yes! This Is The Right Time For Millions Of Christians To Embrace Islam by Nobody: 9:25pm On Jun 26, 2018 |
Abdulgaffar22:You're quoting a book written by an Arab with Arabian mentality against the book written with the Jewish mentality, surely there will be a greatl difference due to the difference in background and upbringing. The Bible needs no such statement as that because even Muhammad himself can't deny the fact that God favoured the nation of Israel by guiding them through prophets and written documents. It's Muhammad and his fabricated book that needed recognition since the true God never had any dealings with his race for once! Genesis 17:19-21 If you find a man in any part of Nigeria with the tribal marks of Ibadan, would it make any sense asking for his traveler's passport? But that case will be different if he's white skinned with the looks of a Japanese! Please the Bible needs no recognition because no nation under the heavens can deny the fact that there was a God in the midst of Israel who empowered them and instructed them with written documents! Egyptians are Muslims, Assyrians (Iran) are Muslims, Babylon (Iraq) are Muslims so try to contact them and ask about the God of Israel! |
Re: Yes! This Is The Right Time For Millions Of Christians To Embrace Islam by Nobody: 9:41pm On Jun 26, 2018 |
I've told you that if you want to understand the Bible there is a religious group that's preaching and teaching people Bible standards. Paul was a Jewish scholar well vast in the law of Moses, as a Jewish lawyer he is a motivational speaker with efficacy so Jesus chose him to write letters to Christian congregations that he once visited,telling them the decision of the Apostles in Jerusalem as a missionary (travelling overseer) he knew many people than all other Apostles.That's why he was inspired to write more books than any other inspired writer. All the Christians we'll respected his power of reasoning, even Peter an Apostle who walked directly with Jesus during Jesus' ministry respected Paul and always commend him with high regards for his wisdom! 2Peter 3:15 So you can see that they're all in harmony and a honesthearted and reasonable person can't discard all of them and their witness just because of the fabrications of a SINGLE far away Arabian who is not even their contemporary. Haba that's just too much to bear my friend, you can't discard a history book of the Benin empire written and compiled by farmers,fishers,shepherds,kings,judges and other reputable inhabitants of Benin empire just because a SINGLE Ghanaian said what all these people wrote about their own history is wrong so the Ghanaian now wrote his own to replace it. Haha God is not that stupid because HE(God) gave US brains expecting US to think and ask questions not just swallowing all wind of thoughts! |
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