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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:10am On Jul 01, 2018
goldfish80:


You haven't been able to prove that most of his goals weren't tap-ins. You're really stuttering to put up any conviction here.

I have proven to you a large number of his goals were not tap ins. Which one will you prove?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:20am On Jul 01, 2018
Chrismario:



To understand you better, kindly name those attacking midtable teams that are playing attacking football where Nacho can thrive

I said play under a team with a history of offensive philosophy or a manager with offensive philosophies. Most midtable teams are comfortable with Managers who do not embrace the philosophy.

However we saw Swansea under Rodgers and Martinez. They were not a top team with big players but during their time, they played nice football although not as offensive as Pellegrini and Heynckes. We saw Gus Poyet play some wonderful stuff with Brighton. So it is about the philosophy than players.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:39am On Jul 01, 2018
Chrismario:



To understand you better, kindly name those attacking midtable teams that are playing attacking football where Nacho can thrive

Bristol City for instance is not a big club with big players. However under Lee Johnson, they have played some good football, even last season where they beat Manchester United and gave Manchester City a run for our money before we beat them.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 11:52am On Jul 01, 2018
goldfish80:

Just minutes ago, you said he scored some tap ins but now the narrative have changed that he only scored 1 tap in.
You're not even consistent.
Im not all cool with Nacho right now, but pls what exactly is your crux on tap ins or no tap instead? cos you're chasing wind to me cos you're simply wrong ere.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 12:01pm On Jul 01, 2018
Players like Cavani, Chicharito, just proved to the whole of Europe that catching all the European silverware isn't going to give you the world cup. The world cup is a different ball game entirely. Club football is also different as well. The lane separating them is as wide as the edge lanes of a 8lane highway.


Ronaldo and Messi are out. Forlan played a big role in the way Cavani plays today. He didn't rush after top Europe's trophy but was a beast when the world cup started. I'd like a Nigerian manager to take one rookie and understudy everything about Cavani and Chicharito to me and mould him to be like either of them and see what comes out.


We don't have the calibre of the Argentine team yet see how they struggled. And see how the game of like meets like ended. France conceeding 3goals from that wack Argentine team. We wouldn't have done that bad. France would sweat to score 2 from us.


If I wanna use this to diss Messi and ororo now that they aren't world class legends now, na argument grin

Let them keep winning all UEFA for all I care. The world cup is a different and wide margined ball game!!!!!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 12:21pm On Jul 01, 2018
daveP:
Im not all cool with Nacho right now, but pls what exactly is your crux on tap ins or no tap instead? cos you're chasing wind to me cos you're simply wrong ere.
The crux of the matter is that kelechi was under developed at Man city. The reason why you see a player who is not dynamic, cannot dribble and set up attacks properly is because Manuel Pelegrini focused only on his finishing and positioning inside the box.

When you bring on a player and stick him in the penalty area and instruct him to just finish moves which earns you points, you're pretty much killing other aspects of his game. That is the reason you have a somewhat flawed player now. This also explains why most of his goals were tap-ins because he plays too close to the penalty box.
When assessing a problem, you look at the root cause not the symptoms.
I hope you understand the Cruz of the matter now.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 12:22pm On Jul 01, 2018
daveP:
Players like Cavani, Chicharito, just proved to the whole of Europe that catching all the European silverware isn't going to give you the world cup. The world cup is a different ball game entirely. Club football is also different as well. The lane separating them is as wide as the edge lanes of a 8lane highway.


Ronaldo and Messi are out. Forlan played a big role in the way Cavani plays today. He didn't rush after top Europe's trophy but was a beast when the world cup started. I'd like a Nigerian manager to take one rookie and understudy everything about Cavani and Chicharito to me and mould him to be like either of them and see what comes out.


We don't have the calibre of the Argentine team yet see how they struggled. And see how the game of like meets like ended. France conceeding 3goals from that wack Argentine team. We wouldn't have done that bad. France would sweat to score 2 from us.


If I wanna use this to diss Messi and ororo now that they aren't world class legends now, na argument grin

Let them keep winning all UEFA for all I care. The world cup is a different and wide margined ball game!!!!!

What about Suarez who also plays for Uruguay and has also won everything in Europe with Barcelona,I know you will not type this if Suarez got the both goals yesterday.

Lol,you say Forlan didn't rush after too Europe trophy? Or he failed to win it because he played for villreal and ATM,I don't think you know what you are saying.

Has chicharito won the World Cup with Mexico ?what are you even saying self,so because Mexico is in the round of 16 it's already an achievement for chicharito,do you know if Brazil will eliminate them ?

Is Diego forlan even a World Cup winner ?he didn't even win the 3rd place at the World Cup so what did he achieve at the World Cup ?

And didn't iniesta xavi busquets pique catch all European silverware and also the World Cup?i guess you don't know about that.

Once again you don't know what you are saying and you are trying a diss but you got it wrong

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 12:24pm On Jul 01, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


I have proven to you a large number of his goals were not tap ins. Which one will you prove?
Yes, he scored some penalties, some one on one's, a few outside the box and many tap ins.
I don't know why you're afraid of tap ins.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 12:41pm On Jul 01, 2018
babatundey5:
See barca fans.


Yes sir! Best club in the universe!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 12:46pm On Jul 01, 2018
goldfish80:

So he scored all his goals inside the box and none were tap ins?
Monsieur Goldfish why are you like this? U know you are wrong but you are still pushing. Kelechi scored an header against west brom, a shot off a rebound against Arsenal and screamer against Tottenham abi all those na tap ins? Or was it the outside the box goal he scored that had Michael Owen in his feelings or his first goal of the year against Leeds which was also outside the box? Which tap in did you see?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by babatundey5: 12:54pm On Jul 01, 2018
BascoVanVeli:


Yes sir! Best club in the universe!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 1:17pm On Jul 01, 2018
grin

For clarity sake, Siasia was never a FLOP as a Coach of the Super Eagles. Some of us are simply ill-informed, only following here-says as Facts.

How could you ascribe Failure to a Coach who played 2 away Matches and got 4 Points in the AFCON Qualifiers?! How could you ascribe FLOP to a Coach who didn't lose a Match during the Qualifiers but couldn't hijack the first Spot narrowly while on a Rescue Mission?!

Was he the one that began the Qualifiers as a Coach of the Team?! Siasia was appointed after two Matches in which one was won and the other was lost to the eventual Group Winner for God's sake.

Please Dudes, let's stop mis-informing our respective Selves. Don't just drop Post(s) without verifying it's objectivity and credibility.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 1:23pm On Jul 01, 2018
BascoVanVeli:

Monsieur Goldfish why are you like this? U know you are wrong but you are still pushing. Kelechi scored an header against west brom, a shot off a rebound against Arsenal and screamer against Tottenham abi all those na tap ins? Or was it the outside the box goal he scored that had Michael Owen in his feelings or his first goal of the year against Leeds which was also outside the box? Which tap in did you see?
What a diplomatic way of describing his goal against Arsenal. The rebound wasn't a tap in?
Why not describe the other 4 goals he scored last season in the FA cup. Let's see how correct you're that he didnt score a tap in last year.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Afobear: 1:47pm On Jul 01, 2018
daveP:
Players like Cavani, Chicharito, just proved to the whole of Europe that catching all the European silverware isn't going to give you the world cup. The world cup is a different ball game entirely. Club football is also different as well. The lane separating them is as wide as the edge lanes of a 8lane highway.


Ronaldo and Messi are out. Forlan played a big role in the way Cavani plays today. He didn't rush after top Europe's trophy but was a beast when the world cup started. I'd like a Nigerian manager to take one rookie and understudy everything about Cavani and Chicharito to me and mould him to be like either of them and see what comes out.


We don't have the calibre of the Argentine team yet see how they struggled. And see how the game of like meets like ended. France conceeding 3goals from that wack Argentine team. We wouldn't have done that bad. France would sweat to score 2 from us.


If I wanna use this to diss Messi and ororo now that they aren't world class legends now, na argument grin

Let them keep winning all UEFA for all I care. The world cup is a different and wide margined ball game!!!!!

Una don come again !!!! France won't score 2 against you but Croatia drowned you in the Danube? Averageeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee3eeeee3eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee team with drunk fans. Some of you even say that duck fowl ihenacho is a better player than Mbappe !!!! Ffs make una d ey deceive unaself

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 2:01pm On Jul 01, 2018
andrew444:


What about Suarez who also plays for Uruguay and has also won everything in Europe with Barcelona,I know you will not type this if Suarez got the both goals yesterday.

Lol,you say Forlan didn't rush after too Europe trophy? Or he failed to win it because he played for villreal and ATM,I don't think you know what you are saying.

Has chicharito won the World Cup with Mexico ?what are you even saying self,so because Mexico is in the round of 16 it's already an achievement for chicharito,do you know if Brazil will eliminate them ?

Is Diego forlan even a World Cup winner ?he didn't even win the 3rd place at the World Cup so what did he achieve at the World Cup ?

And didn't iniesta xavi busquets pique catch all European silverware and also the World Cup?i guess you don't know about that.

Once again you don't know what you are saying and you are trying a diss but you got it wrong
You don't get my point yet!!? lol.


Forget Suarez.

I'm after the idea that once you win UEFA and all that, it doesn't guarantee you having a great world cup. simple. So we shouldn't be quick to use it to justify the best or the average.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by DrLikita12(f): 2:03pm On Jul 01, 2018
Ibrahim Alhassan has moved to the Portuguese First Division, not sure if this was reported here. Starting next season, he will be playing with CS Maritimo who were 7th on the League Table last season. (Source: naijafootballers IG page and Alhassan's page)

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 2:05pm On Jul 01, 2018
goldfish80:

The crux of the matter is that kelechi was under developed at Man city. The reason why you see a player who is not dynamic, cannot dribble and set up attacks properly is because Manuel Pelegrini focused only on his finishing and positioning inside the box.

When you bring on a player and stick him in the penalty area and instruct him to just finish moves which earns you points, you're pretty much killing other aspects of his game. That is the reason you have a somewhat flawed player now. This also explains why most of his goals were tap-ins because he plays too close to the penalty box.
When assessing a problem, you look at the root cause not the symptoms.
I hope you understand the Cruz of the matter now.
Yeah, I may harp into the fact that he might have been underdeveloped, but I'm here Tryna make you know that you are absolutely wrong for saying mist of his goals were tap ins. That's just very wrong cos it didn't happen in the screens I watched him scored from. Gabby Jesus has more tap ins 4times over than Kelechi can ever wish to have. That's the angle I'm disputing with you.


Kelechi didn't score tap ins. His goals were legit and worked for with efforts from himself.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 2:20pm On Jul 01, 2018
daveP:
You don't get my point yet!!? lol.


Forget Suarez.

I'm after the idea that once you win UEFA and all that, it doesn't guarantee you having a great world cup. simple. So we shouldn't be quick to use it to justify the best or the average.

Okay if you say so

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 2:29pm On Jul 01, 2018
Who else saw Uruguay's young left back Diego Laxalt?
That boy na bomb

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 2:39pm On Jul 01, 2018
daveP:
Yeah, I may harp into the fact that he might have been underdeveloped, but I'm here Tryna make you know that you are absolutely wrong for saying mist of his goals were tap ins. That's just very wrong cos it didn't happen in the screens I watched him scored from. Gabby Jesus has more tap ins 4times over than Kelechi can ever wish to have. That's the angle I'm disputing with you.


Kelechi didn't score tap ins. His goals were legit and worked for with efforts from himself.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gF7GiqfVX_E
Count how many tap ins you see. The video is just 2mins long.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 2:44pm On Jul 01, 2018
Afobear:


Una don come again !!!! France won't score 2 against you but Croatia drowned you in the Danube? Averageeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee3eeeee3eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee team with drunk fans. Some of you even say that duck fowl ihenacho is a better player than Mbappe !!!! Ffs make una d ey deceive unaself
I was beclouded by patriotism all these while.. Only recently I came to realize ur rants weren't useless after all..

I don't hold anything against them because they re damn mediocre not even average..
And to think some self acclaimed analysts here doing the hypes didn't help my matter cry.. Nothing different between them and beer parlour naysayers..

It's good to dream but not good to swim in it..

Fvck it that I swam in my dreams.. Never again will i

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 3:00pm On Jul 01, 2018
goldfish80:

I could have saved that shot bro.


Na true.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 3:01pm On Jul 01, 2018
Afobear:


Una don come again !!!! France won't score 2 against you but Croatia drowned you in the Danube? Averageeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee3eeeee3eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee team with drunk fans. Some of you even say that duck fowl ihenacho is a better player than Mbappe !!!! Ffs make una d ey deceive unaself

Help me tell am,as mediocre as Argentina we could not get a draw.

Nothing special about France because they have not been impressive even thou they are in the quarter finals now,but they will beat the Nigeria team easily

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 3:02pm On Jul 01, 2018
Triniti:
The coach was the reason we lost that match, kill off the match with changes.....that knuckle head refused, I heard ebuehi is mad at him for keeping him on the bench when everyone watching could see that idowu was done for the day

Very painful he didn't do that at the right right time.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 3:11pm On Jul 01, 2018
eterisan:
ye... Wait again. Lolz... From two years ago


Hahahahahaha!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by COOL10(m): 3:11pm On Jul 01, 2018
ChrisKels:
Who else saw Uruguay's young left back Diego Laxalt?

That boy na bomb
. Their whole squad yesterday played like they wanted to die especially that number 17. I loved it.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 3:14pm On Jul 01, 2018
I agree with Davep on the ground that when it gets to the world stage a team has to play as a unit with belief and forget about stars who have won it all individually. You have nothing to lose. A team of average players may not win the WC, but they can go very far. World class players are born, if you don’t have them you have to learn to succeed without them. I think Rohr speaks too much about how the opponent has big name players. There is one thing I like about Keshi. He can pick up unachievers and motivate them to play like their lives depended on their performance. That philosophy coupled with great selection, and world class tactics is all we need in an SE coach. Unfortunately, you can’t find a coach who has it all.

We need a consortium of our best indigenous coaches with the aforementioned strengths to take over from Rohr at the right time.
andrew444:


What about Suarez who also plays for Uruguay and has also won everything in Europe with Barcelona,I know you will not type this if Suarez got the both goals yesterday.

Lol,you say Forlan didn't rush after too Europe trophy? Or he failed to win it because he played for villreal and ATM,I don't think you know what you are saying.

Has chicharito won the World Cup with Mexico ?what are you even saying self,so because Mexico is in the round of 16 it's already an achievement for chicharito,do you know if Brazil will eliminate them ?

Is Diego forlan even a World Cup winner ?he didn't even win the 3rd place at the World Cup so what did he achieve at the World Cup ?

And didn't iniesta xavi busquets pique catch all European silverware and also the World Cup?i guess you don't know about that.

Once again you don't know what you are saying and you are trying a diss but you got it wrong

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Rockyrascal(m): 3:14pm On Jul 01, 2018
daveP:
Players like Cavani, Chicharito, just proved to the whole of Europe that catching all the European silverware isn't going to give you the world cup. The world cup is a different ball game entirely. Club football is also different as well. The lane separating them is as wide as the edge lanes of a 8lane highway.


Ronaldo and Messi are out. Forlan played a big role in the way Cavani plays today. He didn't rush after top Europe's trophy but was a beast when the world cup started. I'd like a Nigerian manager to take one rookie and understudy everything about Cavani and Chicharito to me and mould him to be like either of them and see what comes out.


We don't have the calibre of the Argentine team yet see how they struggled. And see how the game of like meets like ended. France conceeding 3goals from that wack Argentine team. We wouldn't have done that bad. France would sweat to score 2 from us.


If I wanna use this to diss Messi and ororo now that they aren't world class legends now, na argument grin

Let them keep winning all UEFA for all I care. The world cup is a different and wide margined ball game!!!!!
this is so true...check out khazri of Tunisia

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:14pm On Jul 01, 2018
goldfish80:

Yes, he scored some penalties, some one on one's, a few outside the box and many tap ins.
I don't know why you're afraid of tap ins.

I am not afraid of tap ins but the problem is you trying to be deceptive and paint Nacho a tap in striker when he offers more. The ratio of tap ins is small.

Finito.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 3:17pm On Jul 01, 2018
kennysville:



This is an untrue allegation. As the said letter was lifted from comments section of completesports column. Amuneke himself refuted it.

Ok na
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:22pm On Jul 01, 2018
goldfish80:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gF7GiqfVX_E
Count how many tap ins you see. The video is just 2mins long.

Tell us how many tap ins you saw there. Unless you do not know what a tap in is.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 3:26pm On Jul 01, 2018
andrew444:

Okay if you say so
Gracias!!

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