@bolded, fine. Commenting on what you do not know is different from assuming that because you did not witness it firsthand in other leagues, it does not happen. You of all people should be the one telling us that since you witness these things, there is a likelihood it also happens elsewhere. It’s illusory on your part to say we are all speaking based on hearsay. Some of us here know agents who have clients plying their trades in other leagues. Should we not also respect their opinions? Sir you are not the only one who know Nigerians players on Europe personally. Your OPINIONS are noted though.

komekn:


If I'm talking about players struggling for multiple reasons. If I'm talking about English leagues and it's football players and from a standpoint of knowledge not just hearsay or the media . But in most cases from first direct contact.

I don't have that same level of rapport with regards to the Bundesliga, Seria A and or La Liga. Would it not be sheer stupidity for me to comment. Or do you want me to be like you guys relying on hearsay and media stories.

At no time have I said that the challenges that players face for instance, manager player relationship break downs or contention is unique to England.

So where on earth are you getting this deduction from see the bold.

soetanoreoluwa:


I saw What you did there

Why what would that be sir?

REVEALED: Why Onyekuru Opted To Join Galatasaray

July 9, 2018 5:08 pm

Nigeria international, Henry Onyekuru opted to join Turkish side, Galatasaray after he was denied a work permit to play for English Premier League side Everton, Completesportsnigeria.com.

Onyekuru was expected to rejoin Everton this summer ahead of the new campaign but did not join the Toffees’ squad that flew out of England to Austria for pre-season on Sunday due to the club’s inability to secure a permit for the 20 year old petit striker.

The former RSC Anderlecht and Eupen striker according to Turkish Football has passed his medicals at Turkish side, Galatasaray with a loan deal set to be announced once both parties agree the financial terms.

Onyekuru was offered to Besiktas and Fenerbahce initially by agents but Galatasaray acted first and launched official talks with Everton for the striker who scored ten goals in 21 games in all competitions last season before his injury.

Onyekuru has five international caps to his name.

https://www.completesportsnigeria.com/revealed-why-onyekuru-opted-to-join-galatasaray/

forgiveness:





DEAL, DESPITE INTEREST FROM OTHER TOP CLUBS
STE HOARE

@Stehoare

3 hours ago 3,303 reads 2 min

Taiwo Awoniyi is set to sign a contract extension with Liverpool, despite interest from some of Europe’s other top clubs, according to reports.

Barcelona, Chelsea, Inter Milan, Manchester City and Tottenham have all shown an interest in the 20-year-old, but he is expected to sign an extension with the Reds.

Unfortunately, work permit issues mean that the Nigerian U23 star will have to spend another season out on loan. He’s already had spells at FSV Frankfurt, NEC Nijmegen and Royal Excel Mouscron and he’s set to spend another season abroad.


However, the calibre of clubs interested in taking the Nigerian forward on loan indicates how well he’s done elsewhere, with Monaco one of the sides hoping to take him for the season and maybe even longer.

Awoniyi could sign for the former French champions for a two-year spell, after which, Liverpool will be hoping he can finally qualify for a work permit.


https://readliverpoolfc.com/2018/07/09/taiwo-awoniyi-set-to-sign-new-liverpool-deal-despite-interest-from-other-top-clubs/

God please make this Monaco deal come to fruition


Modified; I wish he joined Monaco instead of Liverpool when they battled for his siggy along side Porto.

andrew444:
Galatasaray are hoping they can conclude a loan deal with Everton for their 21-year-old winger Henry Onyekuru.

Joining the club last summer, Onyekuru was on loan at Anderlecht, where he scored nine goals in 19 games.

He came back to Everton in January due to a knee injury that kept him out for the rest of the season.

Now he is approaching full fitness. His club are hoping to get another loan deal sealed.

And Sky Sports believes that Galatasaray are at the front of the queue.

The club mentioned on Twitter that "formal negotiations" had begun for the forward.

Read more at http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/galatasaray-present-loan-deal-for-everton-winger-onyekuru-4239221#ZtdojujDd1rOQpmL.99

Go for it boy, u need that champions League football to get that work permit before January.

Oasis007:




Yes..... the Preparation was a top-notch. NFF did their best to ensure the Team is well prepared with no iota form of Distractions, I guess for the first time since I've been following the National Teams.

We've moved on already, but my Point exactly is; Rohr should never be the Coach to lead us to Qatar 2022 except he would go for further (advanced) Coaching Courses, learn under top Managers in the World for at least 2 Years.

However, in my Opinion, NFF should honorably discharge Rohr after the AFCON 2019, then hire a real World-Class Coach on a 3 Years Contract with an Option to extend based on his Performances, to lead us to Qatar 2022.

we don't need any foreign coach after all with less support fanfare j
Keshi took to second round...it's high we realize our wahala is within not without...if u like bring guardiola plus mourinho without d rite quality players nothing changes....zidane won three straight UEFA cup cos he has top notch players....we need a 50 to 100yr longterm roadmap that includes a proper well structured league with good academies or youth systems for Clubs and infrastructures and coaches....siasia amuneke can do well for us as coach....

ChrisKels:



Go for it boy, u need that champions League football to get that work permit before January.

Lol i swear

Certitude:

Thanks sir. Ebuehi is a fine player but Idowu wasn't bad in that game.

What you have said is just the gospel truth.

Besides, Ebuehi is not a LWB and has never played in that unfamiliar role since he began his career though he played as a LB before, but even when he played 13 matches in the LB position, they lost all the matches save one. Is that the right time to play a novice in an unfamiliar role in a crucial match?


Moreover, Ebuehi stats doesn't prove he is offensive or better offensive. 1 goal with just 3 assists in more than 100 games doesn't prove offensive nada. What offensive threat are they talking about?

It was right Rohr played Brian Idowu who is familiar with that role and has played there many times for his club. EOD

No squad number for Omeruo at Chelsea as his Nigerian counterparts were assigned numbers against the preseason and possibly for next season too

oloriooko:


That Ndidi dude is a machine and i sincerely wish he meets a good coach that can bring the beast out of him, he's unstoppable!

Beast wetin?

He is still yet to bring an 'A' game to the national team. That is what matters more to me.

Una don start all this hyping again.

SharpJoe:

I believe MRI scan due to its scientific accuracy over hearsay from people with no proof whatsoever to back their claims.

See, I know there are age cheating issues in our football but this is often exaggerated. I for one know a lot of players of the past that used their real age or something close to it.

Thank God that someone like Francis Uzoho played the U17 and went through the MRI. And we actually saw how very young he was 5 years ago. Else we for no get mouth defend his age. Some people are even saying he posted a "Happy birthday" message of his 17 years old son and quickly deleted it. Lies....!!!

I am not always quick to criticize ages of players because I have seen a good number, who didn't play U17 or go through the MRI, use their real age. Anyone who accuses any player of age cheating must be ready with evidence to back up

Icon79:
The most competitive league in the world? Yea right!

Trust me, if you can transfer any one of he EPL powerhouses: ManCity, ManU, Chelsea, or Liverpool to La Liga, they would all be competing for the 4th position or lower in La Liga. The EPL is just marketing but if you want to watch great football La Liga is the best league in the world.


O pari

This is not hearsay.

But let's look at the 4 teams left in the world cup. And consider thier star players, which league do the overwhelmingly largest number of top stars play.

That should answer your bad belle proposition and Bury it in the cemetery permanently.

Icon79:
Abeg, mek we hear word jor! This is an average England team as always. They are where they are today for two reasons:
- they received a favorable draw. Nigeria would have qualified from their group!
- two, the referee helped them against Colombia coupled with a little bit of luck during the penalty kicks. All things being equal, they would've been eliminated in the round of 16, so I don't understand all the hype.


O pari

Bad belle analysis

chrisooblog:
i've read many reasons of what caused our ouster but i think alot of them are unrealistic. for one based on the calibre of players we paraded it wasn't a huge surprise that we couldn't make it out of our group. compared to croatia and argentina most of our players are not world beaters. people may say o but argentina was terrible but it took a french team full of world class players to best them. As much as rohr has his faults in the way he coached the super eagles at the world cup the truth is if odion had buried his chances we probably won't be having this conversation. sacking him with the mindset that the next person will perform magic and tactically turn your average players to world beaters is plainly delusional. you can have the best tactics but if your personnel are not up to scratch then unless your opposition is seriously off form and you are playing out of your skin more often than not you will lose. even klopp that said with lesser teams you can beat more talented opposition why is he not coaching bristol city or watford or huddersfield to prove his point. he prefers to coach teams that have appreciable levels of talent that will give him a chance. bringing it back to why we didn't succeed in russia i think the attacking talent we paraded let us down. apart from musa nobody brought their A game as far as the striking department was concerned. ighalo, KC and moses didn't do enough in my opinion. we can blame rohr for not giving iwobi and simmy enough chances to show what they could do

Rohr has been getting away with suspect tactical decisions which many overlooked as a result of good fortune...think back to the game against SA where he started a midfield 3 of Ndidi - Onazi - Etebo and playing Iheanacho who isn't a target man as a 9. Playing Mikel as a 10 with 2 destroyers behind him who aren't good passers is another example.
He's a good man manager and all and I like the feel good factor he's brought back to the team.
However - based on results, you can't criticize Keshi and praise Rohr. It's crazy to do so.
Rohr is just not that great tactically. I don't mind him staying till 2022, but he has to improve. Man management will not get you anywhere without the right tactics.

chrisooblog:
going forward we need to be strategic in where we want our team to be in the world cup. currently the super eagles based on the calibre of players we have now is only good enough to compete favourable in the group stage maybe with good fortune of easier groups or lucky result we might make it to the second round which is usually our bus stop. we have to honestly access ourselves and say this is where we are currently so what can we do to raise our level? in my opinion if we start doing the right things today it will probably take us 3-4 to put ourselves in the position to realistic compete to win the world cup.

to get to that level first administration has to continue to maintain high professionalism not just for this tournament but every single one going forward. for coaching history tells us indigenous coaches of national teams usually lead their countries to winning the tournament so we need to start grooming our coaches whether ex-internationals or locally based we have to ensure they meet minimum criteria of coaching knowledge with requisite qualifications. in the short term attach them to good foreign coaches with the view to them eventually taking over. of course integrity, high tactical knowledge plus managerial nous will be criteria chosen to select such nigerian coaches. nff can help by insisting you must have the caf qualifications to coach npfl sides.

for players we need to change how we scout players. from a foreign based angle we should select knowledgeable, trustworthy scouts preferably ex players based in those targeted countries to look for nigerian players with high bias for skill/technical ability. let them also establish relationship with these nigerian born players from their 10s to teens. for back home same thing but with emphasis on choosing skilful players we need to weed jambodies out of the system.

also the league is the bedrock of any football country. we need to get it to a top level that any coach we hire will not hesitate to pick a player from.

us fans also have a part to play by giving real supportership no half hearted conditional backing only when the team is doing well. take a cue from other countries in that regard

First of all you make assumption about Nigerian players and thier commitment to youth development.

You will be shocked how Nigerian players outside of camp do big man for each other.

How many of our players brought players into the clubs they played in.

Icon4s:


See, I know there are age cheating issues in our football but this is often exaggerated. I for one know a lot of players of the past that used their real age or something close to it.

Thank God that someone like Francis Uzoho played the U17 and went through the MRI. And we actually saw how very young he was 5 years ago. Else we for no get mouth defend his age. Some people are even saying he posted a "Happy birthday" message of his 17 years old son and quickly deleted it. Lies....!!!

I am not always quick to criticize ages of players because I have seen a good number, who didn't play U17 or go through the MRI, use their real age. Anyone who accuses any player of age cheating must be ready with evidence to back up

Age cheating in Nigerian football is not exaggerated. It is a big deal. Not as major as in the past, but still an issue.

edi287:

Age cheating in Nigerian football is not exaggerated. It is a big deal. Not as major as in the past, but still an issue.

To some all Nigerian players born and raised in Nigeria are age cheats.

They never believe the age of any Nigerian player. That is my point.

komekn:


Ghana striker Asamoah kept playing for Ghana when he was in Quatar.

Thus guy is not young understand me, football is a very short career. Let him collect better money and relax.

He can still play for the SE if he is good enough.

Gyan is a big name in Ghana so that doesn't count. He knows that if he makes that move his international career is finished.

Icon4s:


See, I know there are age cheating issues in our football but this is often exaggerated. I for one know a lot of players of the past that used their real age or something close to it.

Thank God that someone like Francis Uzoho played the U17 and went through the MRI. And we actually saw how very young he was 5 years ago. Else we for no get mouth defend his age. Some people are even saying he posted a "Happy birthday" message of his 17 years old son and quickly deleted it. Lies....!!!

I am not always quick to criticize ages of players because I have seen a good number, who didn't play U17 or go through the MRI, use their real age. Anyone who accuses any player of age cheating must be ready with evidence to back up

You condemn yourself with your own proposition.

Age cheating is age cheating 1 year or Obe month it doesn't matter, it's the principle thar I'd broken not the depth of the cheating.

I do not want to into depth but I know academies in Nigeria where age cheating is all ready fully ingrained into thier business model.

So let's leave the matter.

komekn:


You condemn yourself with your own proposition.

Age cheating is age cheating 1 year or Obe month it doesn't matter, it's the principle thar I'd broken not the depth of the cheating.

I do not want to into depth but I know academies in Nigeria where age cheating is all ready fully ingrained into thier business model.

So let's leave the matter.

Not just close to. I know players who used their exact ages.

Icon4s:


To some all Nigerian players born and raised in Nigeria are age cheats.

They never believe the age of any Nigerian player. That is my point.

I will ask you what % of Nigerian police are corrupt?

What % of custom officers are corrupt??

What % of the judiciary is corrupt

What % of our politicians are corrupt

In a nation that has no AUTOMATIC BIRTH DATA CAPTURE in which age can not be corroborated and or substantiated officially. I should rely on s persons day so.

Thr depth ot corruption of a nation also reflects the nation. So is it unreasonable considering our norms and ivalue system to be skeptical about people's ages.

The reality is that age cheating is INGRAINED ACCEPTED and INTRINSIC to the business model for the marketing of professional footballers in Africa and even in parts of South America.

This not a Nigerian problem it's across Africa from top to bottom.

In Europe, North America and the developed world. I really don't have to believe you or rely on your integrity to establish truth. I can simply verify, corroborate and establish beyond any doubt, because there is AUTOMATIC NATIONAL CAOTURE OF DATA AT BIRTH.

komekn:


I will ask you what % of Nigerian police are corrupt?

What % of custom officers are corrupt??

What % of the judiciary is corrupt

What % of our politicians are corrupt

In a nation that has no AUTOMATIC BIRTH DATA CAPTURE in which age can not be corroborated and or substantiated officially. I should rely on s persons day so.

Thr depth ot corruption of a nation also reflects the nation. So is it unreasonable considering our norms and ivalue system to be skeptical about people's ages.

The reality is that age cheating is INGRAINED ACCEPTED and INTRINSIC to the business model for the marketing of professional footballers in Africa and even in parts of South America.

This not a Nigerian problem it's across Africa from top to bottom.

So that makes every Force man or Judiciary worker you see a corrupt person?

Icon4s:


So that makes every Force man or Judiciary worker you see a corrupt person?

In my personal experiences yes until proven otherwise.

I use to know the Chief judge of a particular state he was my friends father. What I witnessed not just the occultic stuff but practice of corruption was demoralising to put it lightly.

You see even.if they are not directly corrupt but by complacency are indirectly by corrupt.


For evil to rise it just takes good men to keep quite , quoting the substance of Edmund Burke.

komekn:


In my personal experiences yes until proven otherwise.

I use to know the Chief judge of a particular state he was my friends father. What I witnessed not just the occultic stuff but practice of corruption was demoralising to put it lightly.

You see even.if they are not directly corrupt but by complacency are indirectly by corrupt.


For evil to rise it just takes good men to keep quite , quoting the substance of Edmund Burke.

Oga, you don't just go about accusing every one you see due to one generalised opinion.

Fulani herdsmen have been causing havoc in Nigeria does that make me call any Fulani herdsman I see a murderer?

All these age talk don tire me.

You guys can believe whatever you want. But stop coming online to exaggerate things.

How can the same people who believe that Harry Kane is 24,Lukaku is 24 despite their physical development/appearance come online and dispute the validity of the ages of players like Uzoho, Etebo, Musa, Nacho, Ndidi etc simply because they are Nigerians.

Enough of all these age cheat talk. It's becoming stale. Let the players face the consequences of their choices. If they cheat, it will catch up with them in the near future and they will have no place to hide-it's their palava and not yours. What should concern us is their performance and not age. If you are 40 and still performing, churning out decent stats week in week out, nothing do you. You should be considered.

Note: I'm in no way encouraging the act. But detest all these unsubstantiated claims that all Nigeria players are age cheat because of their physical appearance. You guys kuku no de there when they were born. So leave them all alone and stop generalizing things.

Joebie:
@bolded, fine. Commenting on what you do not know is different from assuming that because you did not witness it firsthand in other leagues, it does not happen. You of all people should be the one telling us that since you witness these things, there is a likelihood it also happens elsewhere. It’s illusory on your part to say we are all speaking based on hearsay. Some of us here know agents who have clients plying their trades in other leagues. Should we not also respect their opinions? Sir you are not the only one who know Nigerians players on Europe personally. Your OPINIONS are noted though.

I know no matter weh u deh raise here.

You are making accusation from assumption.

Tell me juat one player that I have created a double standard for birthed from my bias.

Because that's what it seems you are implying.

Icon4s:


Oga, you don't just go about accusing every one you see due to one generalised opinion.

Fulani herdsmen have been causing havoc in Nigeria does that make me call any Fulani herdsman I see a murderer?

If by mistake God forbid bad thing ting, my car breakdown b/w Ore and Ofosu. Then I see some guys in white rapper, with cutlass deh Waka come meet me.

Should I assume that they are looking for rabbits and offer my assistance. Or take off go hide.

You deh your farm, you see Fulani man with AK deh come meet you, go and welcome him naa bro, since u too know.

Not every Fulani is a murderer but until proven to be a peacemaker, I will rather be cautious.

Please do not misrepresent me, I NEVER ACCUSED anybody just said I can.not vouch for anybody. We can not in Nigeria substantiate anybody age officially.

So I can accept your age but it doesn't mean I have to believe it. EOD

Icon4s:


Oga, you don't just go about accusing every one you see due to one generalised opinion.

Fulani herdsmen have been causing havoc in Nigeria does that make me call any Fulani herdsman I see a murderer?

DELETED for Nigeria unity and not to derail this great thread.

Thanks BasconVanVelli

Icon4s:


Beast wetin?

He is still yet to bring an 'A' game to the national team. That is what matters more to me.

Una don start all this hyping again.

O pari. Chief just my submission on Ndidi

At least Galatasaray is bigger then Everton in terms of European football and winning laurels at home. They have big players and their stadium is always electric....WELCOME TO HELL written at main entrance unlike IBROX PARK of Rangers in Scotland..

Kog45:
Chief fear any Fulani oh.

A friend of mixed Yoruba/Fulani race once told me longtime ago before this herdsmen menace that if i see any Fulani in the bush i should act fast and attack cos their main motive is to kill and destroy.

Chief try and read ILORIN history to really understand Fulani race.

Please lets not go here.

AIG07:
All these age talk don tire me.

You guys can believe whatever you want. But stop coming online to exaggerate things.

How can the same people who believe that Harry Kane is 24,Lukaku is 24 despite their physical development/appearance come online and dispute the validity of the ages of players like Uzoho, Etebo, Musa, Nacho, Ndidi etc simply because they are Nigerians.

Enough of all these age cheat talk. It's becoming stale. Let the players face the consequences of their choices. If they cheat, it will catch up with them in the near future and they will have no place to hide-it's their palava and not yours. What should concern us is their performance and not age. If you are 40 and still performing, churning out decent stats week in week out, nothing do you. You should be considered.

Note: I'm in no way encouraging the act. But detest all these unsubstantiated claims that all Nigeria players are age cheat because of their physical appearance. You guys kuku no de there when they were born. So leave them all alone and stop generalizing things.

Yes nobody will doubt Kane and Lukaku ages cos they came from well structured society where it's not possible to tamper with age.

In Nigeria our system is so porous that it allowed someone to dump his hospital birth certificate for court affidavit back up age claim or go to National Population Commission and get original birth certificate with falsified age and official attestation from MOFA.

I hate discussing age cheats when it involved our players cos most Nigerians falsified their ages especially the civil servants so why blaming the players.