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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:38pm On Jul 17, 2018 |
Melvyn11: This is the source of your foolishness. Before 20 what role on the field were messi and ronaldo playing? 4 goals is double of 2 in case you didn't know 10 goals by age 20 is significantly higher than 9 goals an entire career |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 12:39pm On Jul 17, 2018 |
You guys are just talking base on reputation now not back then when there where teenagers. The fact is That owen at 18 to 20 was better that Ronaldo and Messi. Mbappe only have an edge because of World Cup medal that's all. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 12:39pm On Jul 17, 2018 |
raumdeuter:This is what I'm saying, boss. Not the facts, but the way they're presented. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 12:42pm On Jul 17, 2018 |
raumdeuter:Goat. what entire career., Owen had 9 Champions Goals before 21. It's was you who said Messi was already the best player in the world and top scorer. You Don start your amala 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:43pm On Jul 17, 2018 |
Unlimited22: Quick finisher is justthe first sentence in describing a phenom like Mbappe he offers much more than Owen can ever in 3 lifetimes. Owen got to Madrid at 25 and became a bench warmer because mediocre skills doesn't cut it everywhere like it did in 97 epl |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 12:45pm On Jul 17, 2018 |
Ibime:so you are saying a player who won balon dor/ Eu wpoty at 22 was never touted for World Class seriously? 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 12:47pm On Jul 17, 2018 |
Melvyn11:me i dn dy fear the hype. Not taking anything away from the boy though. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diadem10: 12:47pm On Jul 17, 2018 |
raumdeuter:Because France and Germany were all about Mbappe and Muller? Abeg. Everyone was crazy about Muller not that long but today, how market? Mbappe is talented but not special. And injury fecked Owen career. I remember many times he came on as a sub for United and salvage some points for us, even in his 30's but he couldn't stay fit for 1 month to save his life. 5 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 12:47pm On Jul 17, 2018 |
raumdeuter: To be fair, Sheringham started the World Cup. It took unbearable pressure from English fans and media for Owen to become a starter. I think it was against Raomania, he came on and scored, and became a starter in like the 3rd game. So he only started 2 games that world cup It was same scenario with Darren Anderton vs David Beckham. Eventually Hoddle had to drop Anderton to give Beckham shirt. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 12:47pm On Jul 17, 2018 |
raumdeuter:The argument isn't that Owen over his entire career was better than Mbappe is now because anyone who says that is actually foolish or didn't see him. What I'm saying is Owen as a teenager wasn't better than Mbappe now but was at least comparable, scoring goals, doing well at a world cup and winning back to back goleadors. Mbappe might be better, but there's a basis for comparison. And this doesn't mean it's hard fact. It's just an opinion. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 12:49pm On Jul 17, 2018 |
diadem10:I should be asking you what you're saying. Mbappe and Lemar are not in direct competition for shirt so I don't know why you're speaking country grammar. You cannot sit there and tell me Deschamps could not find a role for Lemar if he was any type of useful. Matuidi didn't even start the first game so he was clearly not plan A diadem10: That was because he had a dip in form. 21 goals and 11 assists from open play as a 19 yo is adjudged a disappointing season. That is the bar Mbappe has set. If Di Maria can be adjudged as useless what do we call Thomas Lemar and his 3 goals and 8 assists in close to 40 games Weren't the guys that left replaced? Keita Balde? Tielemans etc No be the same Bakanonsense we dey see for Chelsea? I never rated him even while he was at Monaco diadem10:I'm sorry bruh I don't judge players based on pre-season diadem10:I beg make una bone this pace yarns e dey vex me, Raheem Sterling, Theo Walcott are also fast. Go and rewatch the game vs Belgium again and tell me pace is all that he has |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:49pm On Jul 17, 2018 |
Melvyn11: See liar. Owen scored 9 cl goals before 21. Actually by that age owen had 0 cl goals. He scored his first cl goal at age 22 in 01/02 season against Boavista NOW LET'S SEE WHO GO TURN AMALA Messi became a striker in 2009/10 and won European golden boot not local league |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 12:50pm On Jul 17, 2018 |
Melvyn11: No, the Balon D'or at 22 was even a shock.. . . it was won off the back off a scintillating performance in FA Cup final vs Arsenal where he scored 2 goals to beat Arsenal 2-1. They just added UEFA Cup final victory over Alaves (5-4) and League Cup win to make a case for him. He was touted as top England class, just like Gary Lineker and co. But nobody had him down as a future WPOTY winner. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 12:51pm On Jul 17, 2018 |
A40:no wonder u hv bn typing trash. Fyi, no player at d world cup had more assists than hazard. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:54pm On Jul 17, 2018 |
Ibime: Probably because owen didn't show he was significantly better than Sheringham. With the hordes of France's attacking talent, Mbappe starting shirt was never in doubt. Owen in France currently will be like martial who didn't even make the tournament |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 12:55pm On Jul 17, 2018 |
Ibime:Don't mind that clueless clown |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 12:56pm On Jul 17, 2018 |
Melvyn11:You're clearly dyslexic or possess some sort of mental disorder After showing you that Mbappe scored more goals and took his team further with two match winning performances to boot you're still asking me stewpid question. You're painfully obtuse |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:58pm On Jul 17, 2018 |
Unlimited22: Owen as a teenager was not even a starter. It's people who didn't watch him that believed he was that good, Rooney as a teenager was way better. As at teenager Rooney was thought to be a future wpoty and was legit better than Ronaldo at some point. No one except his grandmother and nanny thought Michael owen will ever be wpoty |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diadem10: 1:01pm On Jul 17, 2018 |
A40:And how was France team playing prior to Matuidi inclusion? I can't even take you serious for implying that Lemar should have same stats as Mbappe whe he was playing for a depleted Monaco side whereas Mbappe was playing for a fortified Psg side. And nope, Mbappe didn't have any dip in form. He got found out because there was no Neymar to take away the focus from him. Even when he was doling out those stats, Cavani and Neymar were head and shoulder above him which brings me back to my earlier assertion which is Mbappe's style of play only suits a counter attacking side, not a possession based one. Also, no one rate Bakayoko. The point is he had an effective role in the Monaco side and he was good at his job. It's stupid of Conte to expect two bulldozers in Kante and Bakayoko to work effectively in the midfield. None of Tielesman nor Balde could replicate Yoko's energy and stamina in that midfield. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 1:04pm On Jul 17, 2018 |
hensben:You're an ewok you phoolish Hazard anuslicker! Do you love Argentina more than Maradona? Because he was one of those that said so. How won't France be more compact when useless players like Hidden were dancing shakushaku all over the place. Is it not the same France that Argentina scored 3 times against? Enjoy your polling booth award that nobody outside Hazard scrotum shiners like you would remember by the next world cup while the true greats are winning WCs and CLs and leading their teams to finals of major tournaments. Anuofia 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 1:07pm On Jul 17, 2018 |
raumdeuter: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Yeah, Rooney was better than Ronaldo circa 2003-2005. Teen Rooney took Euro 2004 by storm. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 1:08pm On Jul 17, 2018 |
raumdeuter: Nah Sheringham and Shearer already had an established and successful partnership. Same way Henry and Trezeguet could not break France starting 11 despite having a stellar UCL campaign that year on the back of a stellar UEFA Cup campaign the prior year. Instead it was Stephane Guivarch the impotent striker that took shirt. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 1:09pm On Jul 17, 2018 |
Greatihex:We won't hear word because of 2 assists? Lol you're a clown |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 1:11pm On Jul 17, 2018 |
Ibime:But Guivarch won Ligue Un golden boot twice including the season before France 98. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 1:11pm On Jul 17, 2018 |
Unlimited22:That's a fact. Messi at 19 only had 10goals at Barça while Ronaldo at 19 only at 6 at United. Owen was a golden boot winner at 19. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 1:12pm On Jul 17, 2018 |
Melvyn11:It is debatable. It's an opinion. The case is strong because he was a starter and a golden boot winner, but Messi wasn't really either of these. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 1:13pm On Jul 17, 2018 |
Unlimited22: By 2nd game of France 1998, it was clear that Guivarch was doing a Giroud but he kept his shirt all through |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 1:14pm On Jul 17, 2018 |
Greatihex:My thoughts exactly. Many players have burst on into the scene at a young age and failed to live up to the hype. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 1:15pm On Jul 17, 2018 |
Unlimited22:they have become distinct awards again nw and i strong believe that different people wl win it for 2018. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 1:15pm On Jul 17, 2018 |
Ibime:Well I was too small to remember France 98, but given that I didn't remember seeing him at Euro 2000, it means the point is valid. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 1:16pm On Jul 17, 2018 |
A40:when u wl hear word is when u stop coming here to post lies. 1 Like |
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