Melvyn11:

Nobody said Owen was the best teenager ever. How many goals did Messi and ronaldo score in the world cup and Ucl before 20.? So mbappe 10goals and 4 Ucl and world cup before 20 is so significantly higher than 9goals and 2 World Cup goals by Owen shey.

This is the source of your foolishness. Before 20 what role on the field were messi and ronaldo playing?

4 goals is double of 2 in case you didn't know
10 goals by age 20 is significantly higher than 9 goals an entire career

You guys are just talking base on reputation now not back then when there where teenagers. The fact is That owen at 18 to 20 was better that Ronaldo and Messi. Mbappe only have an edge because of World Cup medal that's all.

raumdeuter:


This is the source of your foolishness. Before 20 what role on the field were messi and ronaldo playing?

4 goals is double of 2 in case you didn't know
10 goals by age 20 is significantly higher than 9 goals an entire career

This is what I'm saying, boss. Not the facts, but the way they're presented.

raumdeuter:


This is the source of your foolishness. Before 20 what role on the field were messi and ronaldo playing?

4 goals is double of 2 in case you didn't know
10 goals by age 20 is significantly higher than 9 goals an entire career

Goat. what entire career., Owen had 9 Champions Goals before 21. It's was you who said Messi was already the best player in the world and top scorer. You Don start your amala

Unlimited22:

Agreed, but he was also a good finisher and very quick in his teens.

Quick finisher is justthe first sentence in describing a phenom like Mbappe he offers much more than Owen can ever in 3 lifetimes. Owen got to Madrid at 25 and became a bench warmer because mediocre skills doesn't cut it everywhere like it did in 97 epl

Ibime:


Messi and Ronaldo were wingers then but Owen was a number 9.

I watched Owen from his first match to his last. Owen and Danny Cadarmarteri burst on the scene together, Owen for Liverpool and Cadamarteri for Everton. Cadamarteri was also garnering hype but started to fade after a few months.

Owen was a pacy player and good finisher but was never touted on World Class status like Messi and Mbappe.

so you are saying a player who won balon dor/ Eu
wpoty at 22 was never touted for World Class seriously?

Melvyn11:

o please Michael Owen at 19 was better than mbappe. All this hype needs to stop.

me i dn dy fear the hype. Not taking anything away from the boy though.

raumdeuter:


Why didn't owen replicate this at the world cup by scoring 4 like mbappe and Muller

Because France and Germany were all about Mbappe and Muller? Abeg.
Everyone was crazy about Muller not that long but today, how market?
Mbappe is talented but not special.

And injury fecked Owen career. I remember many times he came on as a sub for United and salvage some points for us, even in his 30's but he couldn't stay fit for 1 month to save his life.

raumdeuter:


Why didn't owen replicate this at the world cup by scoring 4 like mbappe and Muller

To be fair, Sheringham started the World Cup. It took unbearable pressure from English fans and media for Owen to become a starter. I think it was against Raomania, he came on and scored, and became a starter in like the 3rd game. So he only started 2 games that world cup

It was same scenario with Darren Anderton vs David Beckham. Eventually Hoddle had to drop Anderton to give Beckham shirt.

raumdeuter:


Quick finisher is justthe first sentence in describing a phenom like Mbappe he offers much more than Owen can ever in 3 lifetimes. Owen got to Madrid at 25 and became a bench warmer because mediocre skills doesn't cut it everywhere like it did in 97 epl

The argument isn't that Owen over his entire career was better than Mbappe is now because anyone who says that is actually foolish or didn't see him.
What I'm saying is Owen as a teenager wasn't better than Mbappe now but was at least comparable, scoring goals, doing well at a world cup and winning back to back goleadors.
Mbappe might be better, but there's a basis for comparison. And this doesn't mean it's hard fact. It's just an opinion.

diadem10:

What are you saying? Mbappe is the new kid in town and the most expensive young player and you expected Deschamp to bench him for Lemar? Moreover, France don't have a left footed midfielder that could have played Bernando Silva's withdrawn role on the right wing. They had to make use of the left wing with Matuidi as their withdrawn wide midfielder while the far right wing had to go to a right footed player for punting in crosses with right foot and Mbappe fit that bill.

I should be asking you what you're saying. Mbappe and Lemar are not in direct competition for shirt so I don't know why you're speaking country grammar. You cannot sit there and tell me Deschamps could not find a role for Lemar if he was any type of useful. Matuidi didn't even start the first game so he was clearly not plan A

diadem10:

Btw, Mbappe played for an expensive worldclass Psg team yet got benched by the useless Di Maria at the end of the day whereas Lemar was playing for a depleted Monaco side that had lost Bernando, Mendy, Mbappe and Bakayoko (the bulldozer of the team) and you expected Lemar to be at his best for the team? He had to be moved from the left because there was no Bakayoko to cover that side.

That was because he had a dip in form. 21 goals and 11 assists from open play as a 19 yo is adjudged a disappointing season. That is the bar Mbappe has set. If Di Maria can be adjudged as useless what do we call Thomas Lemar and his 3 goals and 8 assists in close to 40 games

Weren't the guys that left replaced? Keita Balde?
Tielemans etc No be the same Bakanonsense we dey see for Chelsea? I never rated him even while he was at Monaco

diadem10:

You know what? I followed Monaco's preseason last season and I will tell you Mbappe was rubbish in all the friendlies played without the aforementioned players who already left for their new team, including Lemar who was out for one reason or another. Mbappe was their only star player and was so rubbish that I kept wondering what people saw in him.

I'm sorry bruh I don't judge players based on pre-season

diadem10:

Don't misunderstand me, Mbappe is a talented young player but much of his play rely on pace but the question is what if he lose this pace like Owen did? What next for him? The point is the coach had better start developing him as a forward because if he continues this way, there would only be another Rooney who became jack of all trade after losing his speed that made him special and worse of all, he had been deployed everywhere except the centre forward even when he had the skillset for it, as shown in 2010 but then it was too late.

I beg make una bone this pace yarns e dey vex me, Raheem Sterling, Theo Walcott are also fast. Go and rewatch the game vs Belgium again and tell me pace is all that he has

Melvyn11:

Goat. what entire career., Owen had 9 Champions Goals before 21. It's was you who said Messi was already the best player in the world and top scorer. You Don start your amala

See liar. Owen scored 9 cl goals before 21. Actually by that age owen had 0 cl goals.

He scored his first cl goal at age 22 in 01/02 season against Boavista

NOW LET'S SEE WHO GO TURN AMALA

Messi became a striker in 2009/10 and won European golden boot not local league

Melvyn11:

so you are saying a player who won balon dor/ Eu
wpoty at 22 was never touted for World Class seriously?

No, the Balon D'or at 22 was even a shock.. . . it was won off the back off a scintillating performance in FA Cup final vs Arsenal where he scored 2 goals to beat Arsenal 2-1. They just added UEFA Cup final victory over Alaves (5-4) and League Cup win to make a case for him.

He was touted as top England class, just like Gary Lineker and co. But nobody had him down as a future WPOTY winner.

A40:
That's why they call you hensbrain. Were you sleeping at the 2014 World Cup when even Argentineans argued that Messi did not deserve the Golden ball? Individual awards are always controversial. Smart people know this that's why they focus on goals, assists and trophies .


So Belgium were not a compact team abi what are you even saying? Individual brilliance that only provided 1 assist from the LWF position in 270mins of football? Una no get shame.

Continue celebrating polling booth awards while real players are celebrating the trophy, very soon Griezmann and small boy Mbappe will be snatching Balon D'or from Hazard's nose and na time your clear go eye

no wonder u hv bn typing trash. Fyi, no player at d world cup had more assists than hazard.

Ibime:


To be fair, Sheringham started the World Cup. It took unbearable pressure from English fans and media for Owen to become a starter. I think it was against Raomania, he came on and scored, and became a starter in like the 3rd game. So he only started 2 games that world cup

It was same scenario with Darren Anderton vs David Beckham. Eventually Hoddle had to drop Anderton to give Beckham shirt.

Probably because owen didn't show he was significantly better than Sheringham. With the hordes of France's attacking talent, Mbappe starting shirt was never in doubt. Owen in France currently will be like martial who didn't even make the tournament

Ibime:


Do you know the difference between Balon D'or in 2001 and now?

Balon D'or then was not the WPOTY that Balon D'or is now. Then Balon D'or was European Player of the year, voted for by French football magazine, while FIFA WPOTY was the main koko. Balon D'or then was for losers like Owen, Shevchenko etc while Ronaldo, Zidane and Figo win the real thing.

Owen was never better than Mbappe, not even close. Owen vs Mbappe is like Owen vs Henry in those days.

Don't mind that clueless clown

Melvyn11:

Your logic is dumb. So he has a world cup medal and so what. Does that increase his ability or his talent?

You're clearly dyslexic or possess some sort of mental disorder

After showing you that Mbappe scored more goals and took his team further with two match winning performances to boot you're still asking me stewpid question. You're painfully obtuse

Unlimited22:

The argument isn't that Owen over his entire career was better than Mbappe is now because anyone who says that is actually foolish or didn't see him.
What I'm saying is Owen as a teenager wasn't better than Mbappe now but was at least comparable, scoring goals, doing well at a world cup and winning back to back goleadors.
Mbappe might be better, but there's a basis for comparison. And this doesn't mean it's hard fact. It's just an opinion.

Owen as a teenager was not even a starter. It's people who didn't watch him that believed he was that good, Rooney as a teenager was way better.

As at teenager Rooney was thought to be a future wpoty and was legit better than Ronaldo at some point. No one except his grandmother and nanny thought Michael owen will ever be wpoty

A40:

I should be asking you what you're saying. Mbappe and Lemar are not in direct competition for shirt so I don't know why you're speaking country grammar. You cannot sit there and tell me Deschamps could not find a role for Lemar if he was any type of useful. Matuidi didn't even start the first game so he was clearly not plan A

That was because he had a dip in form. 21 goals and 11 assists from open play as a 19 yo is adjudged a disappointing season. That is the bar Mbappe has set. If Di Maria can be adjudged as useless what do we call Thomas Lemar and his 3 goals and 8 assists in close to 40 games

Weren't the guys that left replaced? Keita Balde?
Tielemans etc No be the same Bakanonsense we dey see for Chelsea? I never rated him even while he was at Monaco

I'm sorry bruh I don't judge players based on pre-season


I beg make una bone this pace yarns e dey vex me, Raheem Sterling, Theo Walcott are also fast. Go and rewatch the game vs Belgium again and tell me pace is all that he has

And how was France team playing prior to Matuidi inclusion?
I can't even take you serious for implying that Lemar should have same stats as Mbappe whe he was playing for a depleted Monaco side whereas Mbappe was playing for a fortified Psg side.

And nope, Mbappe didn't have any dip in form. He got found out because there was no Neymar to take away the focus from him. Even when he was doling out those stats, Cavani and Neymar were head and shoulder above him which brings me back to my earlier assertion which is Mbappe's style of play only suits a counter attacking side, not a possession based one.

Also, no one rate Bakayoko. The point is he had an effective role in the Monaco side and he was good at his job. It's stupid of Conte to expect two bulldozers in Kante and Bakayoko to work effectively in the midfield. None of Tielesman nor Balde could replicate Yoko's energy and stamina in that midfield.

hensben:
France were more compact as a team than Belgium. You and the argentine fan complaining that Messi did not deserve the golden ball are mad and jealous prick. You guys are not smarter than FIFA. You lots are inconsequential in this matter. #AnalysisFaulty.

You're an ewok you phoolish Hazard anuslicker! Do you love Argentina more than Maradona? Because he was one of those that said so.

How won't France be more compact when useless players like Hidden were dancing shakushaku all over the place. Is it not the same France that Argentina scored 3 times against? Enjoy your polling booth award that nobody outside Hazard scrotum shiners like you would remember by the next world cup while the true greats are winning WCs and CLs and leading their teams to finals of major tournaments. Anuofia

raumdeuter:


Owen as a teenager was not even a starter. It's people who didn't watch him that believed he was that good, Rooney as a teenager was way better.

As at teenager Rooney was thought to be a future wpoty and was legit better than Ronaldo at some point. No one except his grandmother and nanny thought Michael owen will ever be wpoty

Grandmother and Nanny
Yeah, Rooney was better than Ronaldo circa 2003-2005. Teen Rooney took Euro 2004 by storm.

raumdeuter:


Probably because owen didn't show he was significantly better than Sheringham. With the hordes of France's attacking talent, Mbappe starting shirt was never in doubt. Owen in France currently will be like martial who didn't even make the tournament

Nah Sheringham and Shearer already had an established and successful partnership.

Same way Henry and Trezeguet could not break France starting 11 despite having a stellar UCL campaign that year on the back of a stellar UEFA Cup campaign the prior year. Instead it was Stephane Guivarch the impotent striker that took shirt.

Greatihex:
no wonder u hv bn typing trash. Fyi, no player at d world cup had more assists than hazard.

We won't hear word because of 2 assists? Lol you're a clown

Ibime:


Nah Sheringham and Shearer already had an established and successful partnership.

Same way Henry and Trezeguet could not break France starting 11 despite having a stellar UCL campaign that year on the back of a stellar UEFA Cup campaign the prior year. Instead it was Stephane Guivarch the impotent striker that took shirt.

But Guivarch won Ligue Un golden boot twice including the season before France 98.

Unlimited22:
Someone said 19-year-old Owen was better than 19-year-old Messi. What a wow.

That's a fact. Messi at 19 only had 10goals at Barça while Ronaldo at 19 only at 6 at United. Owen was a golden boot winner at 19.

Melvyn11:

That's a fact. Messi at 19 only had 10goals at Barça while Ronaldo at 19 only at 6 at United. Owen was a golden boot winner at 19.

It is debatable. It's an opinion. The case is strong because he was a starter and a golden boot winner, but Messi wasn't really either of these.

Unlimited22:

But Guivarch won Ligue Un golden boot twice including the season before France 98.

By 2nd game of France 1998, it was clear that Guivarch was doing a Giroud but he kept his shirt all through

Greatihex:
me i dn dy fear the hype. Not taking anything away from the boy though.

My thoughts exactly. Many players have burst on into the scene at a young age and failed to live up to the hype.

Unlimited22:

This is true though. The Ballon d'or and FIFA WPOTY were distinct awards.

they have become distinct awards again nw and i strong believe that different people wl win it for 2018.

Ibime:


By 2nd game of France 1998, it was clear that Guivarch was doing a Giroud but he kept his shirt all through

Well I was too small to remember France 98, but given that I didn't remember seeing him at Euro 2000, it means the point is valid.

A40:
We won't hear word because of 2 assists? Lol you're a clown

when u wl hear word is when u stop coming here to post lies.