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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 1:17pm On Jul 17, 2018
Unlimited22:

It is debatable. It's an opinion. The case is strong because he was a starter and a golden boot winner, but Messi wasn't really either of these.
exactly. No body is comparing Owen to Messi or Ronaldo as that will be rubbish. But Owen has a teenager from 18 to 22 was something else.May be he peaked to soon. After his first hamstring he depreciated alot ND at 26 was finished. We saw what injury did to the great de Lima.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Segedinho(m): 1:18pm On Jul 17, 2018
Seems Golovin z headed 4 Chelsea medical
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 1:26pm On Jul 17, 2018
raumdeuter:


See liar. Owen scored 9 cl goals before 21. Actually by that age owen had 0 cl goals.

He scored his first cl goal at age 22 in 01/02 season against Boavista

NOW LET'S SEE WHO GO TURN AMALA

Messi became a striker in 2009/10 and won European golden boot not local league
Which one is local league. How many of your players in your club history has won the European golden boot sir. So winning a league top scorer back to back at age 18 and 19 is not a big achievement because as you termed it a local league lol. you are deluded.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:29pm On Jul 17, 2018
Melvyn11:

That's a fact. Messi at 19 only had 10goals at Barça while Ronaldo at 19 only at 6 at United. Owen was a golden boot winner at 19.

What position on the field was messi Ronaldo and owen playing at age 19.

Then have you found the 9 cl goals Owen scored before age 22
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 1:32pm On Jul 17, 2018
A40:
You're clearly dyslexic or possess some sort of mental disorder

After showing you that Mbappe scored more goals and took his team further with two match winning performances to boot you're still asking me stewpid question. You're painfully obtuse
Are you dumb. Mbappe was a starter while owen was not and he only had 2 goals more while Owen only started 2 matches the rest he was a sub. And Mbappe didn't lead France shitttt to any where it was a fecking team effort.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diadem10: 1:32pm On Jul 17, 2018
A40:

I'm sorry bruh I don't judge players based on pre-season


I beg make una bone this pace yarns e dey vex me, Raheem Sterling, Theo Walcott are also fast. Go and rewatch the game vs Belgium again and tell me pace is all that he has

I don't judge players based on their preseason performances too but I would start to question a supposed talented player who looked rubbish against minnow sides like Mbappe did in preseason. Moreover, the reason I brought this up was to tell you how Mbappe looked poor for a depleted Monaco side yet you dare question Lemar's stats for a depleted Monaco side?

Btw, we all know Sterling looked great for a productive effective Pep's side last season despite the lot of chances he missed in front of goal, he still came up with a respected stat at the end of the season. As for Walcott, he was fecked by injury.

Say all you like about Mbappe's performance against the Argentines but without Pogba's long passes, nothing would have happened. That team was a counter attacking team built on Pogba's long passes and Mbappe's pace which solidify my point already. As a matter of fact, they all looked rubbish except Griez against Croatia during the earlier minutes because they weren't afforded the space to counter until the ref fecked it up.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 1:36pm On Jul 17, 2018
raumdeuter:


What position on the field was messi Ronaldo and owen playing at age 19.

Then have you found the 9 cl goals Owen scored before age 22
lol so now the position matters when you where talking trash how Messi who was a bench warmer at barca at 19 was better than Owen a regular starter at Liverpool and a 2 times golden boot winner at 19. My friend sit down

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 1:42pm On Jul 17, 2018
A40:
We won't hear word because of 2 assists? Lol you're a clown
shw me a player that had more. Hate wl nt allow u to see the truth.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 1:45pm On Jul 17, 2018
OMG


This melvyn11 and diadem10 are both pained.

Stop the unnecessary comparisons when people are comparing the boy to Pele you are comparing him to ......

Leave the dude call it hyping,He is going to be the next big thing in football as he continually develops.


He is special.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diadem10: 1:56pm On Jul 17, 2018
Concerncitizen:
OMG


This melvyn11 and diadem10 are both pained.

Stop the unnecessary comparisons when people are comparing the boy to Pele you are comparing him to ......

Leave the dude call it hyping,He is going to be the next big thing in football as he continually develops.


He is special.
Lol. I'll just advise Mbappe to start developing his game as a centre forward lest he endup as Rooney or Muller (jack of all trades). Both end up with good careers but not decorative ones.
I can't even imagine him replacing Ronaldo on the left for a possession based Madrid's side, let alone play in LaLiga where little space are afforded but as a centre forward, he will likely thrive but only few coaches sees him as one.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 2:10pm On Jul 17, 2018
He won't end up like the others.He is still developing.
diadem10:

Lol. I'll just advise Mbappe to start developing his game as a centre forward lest he endup as Rooney or Muller (jack of all trades). Both end up with good careers but not decorative ones.
I can't even imagine him replacing Ronaldo on the left for a possession based Madrid's side, let alone play in LaLiga where little space are afforded but as a centre forward, he will likely thrive but only few coaches sees him as one.
Lol,

The guy has said he would improve and everyone who wishes him well have said same.


He idolised Ronald and others doesn't mean he wants to be like them after all he has said he would make his own and the guy is nobody's replacement.


So you all should stop the unnecessary comparisons.

Everyone is free to be skeptical and criticise.


He won't end up l

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 2:10pm On Jul 17, 2018
diadem10:

And how was France team playing prior to Matuidi inclusion?
I can't even take you serious for implying that Lemar should have same stats as Mbappe whe he was playing for a depleted Monaco side whereas Mbappe was playing for a fortified Psg side.
Why couldn't Lemar dislodge Matuidi? Why did you make it sound like Mbappe and Lemar were in direct competition for a shirt in your initial post. That is the real question. France's tactics for this World Cup was pretty much dump the ball to Mbappe or Griezmann and get out the way!! It speaks to the uselessness of Lemar that Deschamps didn't deem it fit to use him for even 1 second in any game that mattered

Lmaooo you must be Papi Luwe in disguise. You're dragging a 19year old for combining for 32 goals and assists yet exhonerating a 22 year old that dropped 3 goals and 8 assists. Are you hearing yourself?? Ota po ju enemy lo oh yeparipa oh

Monaco still finished 3rd in spite of how rubbish Thomas Lemar was so dead that Monaco was depleted narrative osiso
diadem10:

And nope, Mbappe didn't have any dip in form. He got found out because there was no Neymar to take away the focus from him. Even when he was doling out those stats, Cavani and Neymar were head and shoulder above him which brings me back to my earlier assertion which is Mbappe's style of play only suits a counter attacking side, not a possession based one.
Was Neymar taking the focus away at the World Cup too? Abeggi no dey give us zobo for here. You expect Mbappe to be all guns blazing from September to May?

You can't seriously expect Mbappe a borderline baby to come to PSG and be the dominant player with ball hogs like Neymar. You can't be serious
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 2:14pm On Jul 17, 2018
Ibime:


We have long marked you down as an eediot ever since you made a long post telling us Bakayoko is better than Tolisso, but this is the height of foolishness.
ofcourse an imbe..cile such as yourself knows the height of foolishness because that is your dwelling place.

Cant you make a point like a reasonable human being, if you have any personal beef eat it up yourself.

Next time dont act like perfectly fvckd up bastard that was raped by his father at child birth. *people make mistakes*, if dont get that then, you are an example.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 2:22pm On Jul 17, 2018
Melvyn11:

Are you dumb. Mbappe was a starter while owen was not and he only had 2 goals more while Owen only started 2 matches the rest he was a sub. And Mbappe didn't lead France shitttt to any where it was a fecking team effort.
Then shut the phuck up you dyslexic charlatan! How many games did Mbappe start in the season he scored 15 goals and 11 assists in the league. Phool!

Is it supposed to be Mbappe's fault Owen started two games? E ma gbo oro werey

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 2:41pm On Jul 17, 2018
Melvyn11:

lol so now the position matters when you where talking trash how Messi who was a bench warmer at barca at 19 was better than Owen a regular starter at Liverpool and a 2 times golden boot winner at 19. My friend sit down

Messi became a forward in 2009 and by 2010 was top scorer in entire Europe

The 9 CL goals you told us Owen scored by age 21, we are still waiting for the evidence or should be permanently tag you a LIAR

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 2:54pm On Jul 17, 2018
Ibime:


We have long marked you down as an eediot ever since you made a long post telling us Bakayoko is better than Tolisso, but this is the height of foolishness.


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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilstjnr: 3:15pm On Jul 17, 2018
raumdeuter:


Probably because owen didn't show he was significantly better than Sheringham. With the hordes of France's attacking talent, Mbappe starting shirt was never in doubt. Owen in France currently will be like martial who didn't even make the tournament

Owen didn't what?

what's all this Owen Slander here?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:17pm On Jul 17, 2018
Nihilstjnr:


Owen didn't what?

what's all this Owen Slander here?

Owen didnt start because he wasnt convincing enough and showed he deserved to start over Teddy Sheringham. Unlike Mbappe whose starting shirt was never in doubt despite the dozens of attacking talents of France


Owen slander, I think the slander is comparing Owen to Mbape, Messi Ronaldo even as a teenager

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 3:18pm On Jul 17, 2018
diadem10:


I don't judge players based on their preseason performances too but I would start to question a supposed talented player who looked rubbish against minnow sides like Mbappe did in preseason. Moreover, the reason I brought this up was to tell you how Mbappe looked poor for a depleted Monaco side yet you dare question Lemar's stats for a depleted Monaco side?
Ol boy I have zero care for preseason. All I know is Mbappe would never drop 3 goals and 8 assists even on crutches, even if he was playing with Monaco Feminine. Abeg you need to dead this depleted narrative because if Monaco relied on Thomas Lemar they would not sniff the Champions League. Enuff with the excuses

Lemme repeat! You're dragging a 19yo for a 21 goal 11 assist season yet praising a 22 yo for a 3 goal 8 assist season. If that's not you tacitly admitting Mbappe's greatness then I don't know what is
diadem10:

Btw, we all know Sterling looked great for a productive effective Pep's side last season despite the lot of chances he missed in front of goal, he still came up with a respected stat at the end of the season. As for Walcott, he was fecked by injury.
.
Yet went on to stink up the World Cup, can you bet on Sterling reproducing last season? As for Walcott lol

diadem10:

Say all you like about Mbappe's performance against the Argentines but without Pogba's long passes, nothing would have happened. That team was a counter attacking team built on Pogba's long passes and Mbappe's pace which solidify my point already. As a matter of fact, they all looked rubbish except Griez against Croatia during the earlier minutes because they weren't afforded the space to counter until the ref fecked it up.
Abeggi its one thing to hoof a ball forward and another for the striker to do something with it. The irony is Mbappe's goals vs Argentina had nothing to do with Pogba and you can say that for almost every goal France scored at the World Cup. Stop dropping yarns that won't stand up to scrutiny
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilstjnr: 3:26pm On Jul 17, 2018
raumdeuter:


Owen didnt start because he wasnt convincing enough and showed he deserved to start over Teddy Sheringham. Unlike Mbappe whose starting shirt was never in doubt despite the dozens of attacking talents of France


Owen slander, I think the slander is comparing Owen to Mbape, Messi Ronaldo even as a teenager

Owen was not a winger like Mbappe.

To me, all this talk is complete slander.

Owen as a teenager was dynamite abeg.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 3:27pm On Jul 17, 2018
Melvyn11:

lol so now the position matters when you where talking trash how Messi who was a bench warmer at barca at 19 was better than Owen a regular starter at Liverpool and a 2 times golden boot winner at 19. My friend sit down


Leave them to their Mbappe hype.
We will be here to remind them when he turns out not to be what they expected of him especially that one already awarding him fifa world best by 22 yrs.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 3:33pm On Jul 17, 2018
A40:
Asinwin agbaya oshi. I dey gidigba ready to flog your fuke fuke brain as usual

Eeran iya, see as you have been disgracing yourself here again. Shameless like his mentor.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 3:40pm On Jul 17, 2018
airmark:


Eeran iya, see as you have been disgracing yourself here again. Shameless like his mentor.
Oloshious fellow. Your fellow quack and ebola pundits are in Intensive care unit, hopefully they can recover unlike an asinwin like you whose case is a hopeless one
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 3:52pm On Jul 17, 2018
diadem10:

Lol. I'll just advise Mbappe to start developing his game as a centre forward lest he endup as Rooney or Muller (jack of all trades). Both end up with good careers but not decorative ones.
I can't even imagine him replacing Ronaldo on the left for a possession based Madrid's side, let alone play in LaLiga where little space are afforded but as a centre forward, he will likely thrive but only few coaches sees him as one.
How do they decorate you when Ronaldo and Messi have taken all the accolades. Even the center forwards what have tjey won?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 4:04pm On Jul 17, 2018
popizaino:



Leave them to their Mbappe hype.
We will be here to remind them when he turns out not to be what they expected of him especially that one already awarding him fifa world best by 22 yrs.
Schweppes! Na today? No be here dem tell us say Hidden Hazard go win Balon D'or in 2016? We're in 2018 he never smell am and heaven did not fall

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 4:08pm On Jul 17, 2018
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by MorataFC: 4:09pm On Jul 17, 2018
Hmm, another clash of the titans is coming cool
... make I sidon dey look cool
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:10pm On Jul 17, 2018
Nihilstjnr:
Owen was not a winger like Mbappe.
To me, all this talk is complete slander.
Owen as a teenager was dynamite abeg.

Both Mbappe and Owen are not 9, they play as support strikers up till this moment. Owen was a dynamite because he can run, just like Theo Walcott
Thats where the comparison with Mbappe ends, Mbappe is more skillful and has more in his arsenal.

G watch Mbape skills in a game, The only thing Owen could do was run and finish

All these articles are just English journos trying to attache themselves to glory, Like Rooney was while Pele

Ronaldo scored a bicycle kick, we are hearing comparison with Rooneys bicycle kick
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diadem10: 4:16pm On Jul 17, 2018
A40:

Why couldn't Lemar dislodge Matuidi? Why did you make it sound like Mbappe and Lemar were in direct competition for a shirt in your initial post. That is the real question. France's tactics for this World Cup was pretty much dump the ball to Mbappe or Griezmann and get out the way!! It speaks to the uselessness of Lemar that Deschamps didn't deem it fit to use him for even 1 second in any game that mattered

Lmaooo you must be Papi Luwe in disguise. You're dragging a 19year old for combining for 32 goals and assists yet exhonerating a 22 year old that dropped 3 goals and 8 assists. Are you hearing yourself?? Ota po ju enemy lo oh yeparipa oh

Monaco still finished 3rd in spite of how rubbish Thomas Lemar was so dead that Monaco was depleted narrative osiso

Was Neymar taking the focus away at the World Cup too? Abeggi no dey give us zobo for here. You expect Mbappe to be all guns blazing from September to May?

You can't seriously expect Mbappe a borderline baby to come to PSG and be the dominant player with ball hogs like Neymar. You can't be serious

You're so funny and fucking clueless.
If you had watched Monaco's setup which was the same setup France used, you would know Lemar was competing for Mbappe's role in that team, not necessarily same position 'cos he's left footed whereas Mbappe is right footed, hence they couldn't have been competing for same position but as far as the role of building on the long passes from the midfield from which play is progressed forward either by punting in crosses into the box or interplaying with other forwards, Lemar and Mbappe were competing for that role. The only other role one of them could have got was Griezman's role as SS but we all know Griezman is undroppable for France.

Lemar couldn't have competed with Matuidi in his withdrawn wide midfield role because he's no midfielder but a Forward, just like Mbappe. Deschamps had to choose between Lemar and Mbappe for the upfield wing role and he chose Mbappe. But the fact is Lemar would have done same job because he did same for Monaco in their title run. Heck, he was more productive for France than Mbappe until he had less than stellar season for a depleted Monaco last season and got dropped for a new shining toy.

You bringing up Sterling in the discussion even solidify my point that you don't have to be special to look good in a productive team that work towards your strength which was exactly what happened to Sterling under Pep.

And you must be kidding me with the insinuation that Mbappe had a drop in form. He had a drop in form towards the end of last season but suddenly found form for a counter attacking side at the worldcup? Abegi. The truth is he was found out. Abc. Neymar had been saving his ass, taking all the focus for a possession based Psg but after Neymar had his injury, it became Mbappe's turn to be the focal point for a possession team, he became pub and got benched so tey the useless Di Maria was showing him the way. Lol.

Neymar could have been trying too much for Brazil at the worldcup after seeing that the team had a useless striker in Jesus but he was a sefless player for Psg. He was Psg's best player and still remained the best player in the French league, even after he got injured. Mbappe couldn't even measure up to 1/3 of Neymar at Psg and that's the gospel truth.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilstjnr: 4:17pm On Jul 17, 2018
raumdeuter:


Both Mbappe and Owen were not 9, they are support strikers. Owen was a dynamite because he can run,
Thats where the comparison with Mbappe ends, Mbappe is more skillful and has more in his arsenal.

All these articles are just English journos trying to attache themselves to glory, Like Rooney was while Pele

Mbappe did not play support striker this world cup, he played right wing.

If we want to use your original logic, we could also say that Mbappe was not good enough to break up the striking partnership of Giroud and Griezman.

Mbappe plays very much like Owen of those days. It's pretty obvious to even the blind. It's not beans to win Balon Dor and finish in WPOTY top 10
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilstjnr: 4:20pm On Jul 17, 2018
raumdeuter:




G watch Mbape skills in a game, The only thing Owen could do was run and finish


Amala comes again.

when it's KDB vs Hazard, you say no need for skills just one time pass and finish

Now Owen could run and finish, you say he no do skills. Which skills did Mbappe even do, apart from kick and follow in this world cup?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:23pm On Jul 17, 2018
Nihilstjnr:


Mbappe did not play support striker this world cup, he played right wing.

If we want to use your original logic, we could also say that Mbappe was not good enough to break up the striking partnership of Giroud and Griezman.

Mbappe plays very much like Owen of those days. It's pretty obvious to even the blind. It's not beans to win Balon Dor and finish in WPOTY top 10

Mbappe was on the field at everytime, Owen wasnt good enough to make it onto the field. Maybe you can say Walcott plays like Owen, Not Mbappe. Mbappe can from a standing position dribble a defender, Owen will rather push the ball on the run to beat the defender.

Balon dor was the very inferior award in Owens time which Shevchenko, Nedved and those who couldnt make the WPOTY were consoled with

It will be the type of awards Ribery Zlatan, David Silva will be winning nowadays while the Messi Ronaldo Neymar vie for the WPOTY

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