nemesis8u:


There is lot of trouble with the avionics etc

They need more time to mature and lots of debugging.

Eg TX/RX modules made of Gallium Arsenide (GaAs) are not operating as per requirements.

SternProphet:

nemesis8u:


They wanted to repeat the su30mki saga all over again.

Ind.. paid and contributed human resource and technology to development of baseline su27 into su30 and in the bargain got shiiit to show for it. While the Russians laughed all the way to the bank by churning out varients of Su30mki and selling them.

Billions of dollars of taxpayers money wasted.

The news about SU57 program coming to halt broke out after Ind.. officially confirmed it has withdrawn from the SU57 program for the time being and might join the same at a later date if things look ok for the SU57 ( polite way of saying unless u agree to our terms for equal share in profits and share of technology u won't see a dollar from us )

Lol once Bitten twice shy.

nemesis8u:


They wanted to repeat the su30mki saga all over again.

Ind.. paid and contributed human resource and technology to development of baseline su27 into su30 and in the bargain got shiiit to show for it. While the Russians laughed all the way to the bank by churning out varients of Su30mki and selling them.

Billions of dollars of taxpayers money wasted.

The news about SU57 program coming to halt broke out after Ind.. officially confirmed it has withdrawn from the SU57 program for the time being and might join the same at a later date if things look ok for the SU57 ( polite way of saying unless u agree to our terms for equal share in profits and share of technology u won't see a dollar from us )

Lol once Bitten twice shy.

giles14:
only for you to see the jet in 4 years time a fearful dragon.

don't forget that even the SU-27 also followed similar trend

jakeporeshenko:

Ahaha the Russian really thought they could scam India a second time ?

Xbee007:
UK future UAV

nemesis8u:


Ind.... r foolish aholes, no doubts about it

and IMO they wanted to see the extent of ind.... foolishness

Thankfully the financial crunch forced the Ind... morons to have a rethink plus the government is determined to promote made in Ind... program.

Funny thing Ind... is asking for the 250 something million dollar it had paid to the Russians long time back for the SU57 program.

Now that money will be twice the amount. And they r looking for ways to avoid paying it back.

Rumours r that money will traded for Ind... specific modifications and TOT for the S400 for back porting into Ind.. ABM . The Ind.. version of the S400 will be S450 as S500 tech and one perticular missile from S500 will be included as per request.

Let me predict this 2-3 years after S450 is delivered the locally developed Ind... ABM will come online ie both the exo atmospheric and endo atmospheric layered shield. And their sensors will comprise both the organic assets as well as the S450 assets.

nemesis8u:


That's some weapon load

Just thinking aloud

Is every country preparing for a future way say in the 2030-2045 period

jakeporeshenko:

So in your own opinion is the sU-57 project really canceled, dead and gone or has it been shelved to be looked at later when the technology matures.

what are the possibilities of Russia finding another startegic partner/investor to kick start the project, I mean China is throwing money at everything and everyone nowadays and nobody knows how much confidence they have in their own tech ( j-20)

jakeporeshenko:
new alliances and trade partnerships are being developed, Japan’s just signed its largest free agreement with the EU as a substitute for the US pulling out of the pacific trade pact.

The UK and US are going in the same direction of isolationism, all in the name of protecting jobs and domestic interest.

Many countries are racing to become indipendent of their original partners, I wonder why the U.K. decided to start a 6th gen fighter program instead of joining the Franco German effort, kind of reminds me of how France pulled out of the Eurofighter program and decided to develop the Rafale.

nemesis8u:


UK wants to stay relevant while sliding into irrelevancy

I am sceptical on their 5 gen program not in terms of their capability to build one but in terms of their economic ability to fund it. Maybe they will ride on the co development programs of Turkish US etc 5 gen programs and may even get other countries to join / fund them.

The Saudis or other middle east moneybags come to mind they might fund them

The biggest danger u know posed by these increasing
western countries looking out for themselves is to

Africa Asia Latin America

Countries in these continents will become the playground , a free fall all.

Lots of games will be played via exploitation of religious , social and economic fault lines.

Same old games but better packaged and much more efficient and harder to stop.

U wait and see

nemesis8u:


That's some weapon load

Just thinking aloud

Is every country preparing for a future way say in the 2030-2045 period

SternProphet:


The UK wants to be an arms sales juggernaut pro Brexit. Just this week coincident with Farnborough they have showcased about three cutting edge systems waiting for jnternational partners.

bidexiii:
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