davidnazee:


I cannot argue with you wether Edo warriors heads were used to build monuments. I know we tried to invade deep into Igboland and your warriors were successful in pushing our invading force back unlike the Yorubas we easily conquered. But if we had tried again we would have won. The task of crossing the Niger in each invasion was too much so we gave up.

But as for the war of Oba and Iduu bro we took thousands of Igbo heads. We defeated you guys well. Who was recorded as fleeing? No be una?

ghostfacekillar:
Bini and land grabbing are five and six. I don't knw what they think of themselves. Toomuch tobacco ave blocked their head. Our ancestors during the war of oba and idu beheaded many warriors in bini and used it to build monument in nri... Davidnazee. I told u when you are ready i will gladly be ur guide to show u ur forefathers rotten head in nri kingdom. Not only nri kingdom.. Ogidi kingdom. Obosi kingdoms. Oba kingdom. Ozubulu kingdom. Nzugbe kingdom. Nkwelle ezunaka kingdom. Ur fore fathers head where used to build alters and monument.

davidnazee:


You are the fool here. Didn’t you see your other foolish brother babaramota acknowledged that my post was a research thesis done by a Yoruba man. I copied and posted word for word the work of your Yoruba brother about Edo conquests of Eastern Yoruba.
You Yorubas are a conflicted race. Babaramota said my post is about 2 brothers (bini and Yoruba) fighting each other, you are saying I doctored it lol.
We beat una that’s a fact.

Obalufon:


Did you read the topic of the write Mr monkey before doctoring the write up ..War is normal phenomena either win or lose but conquering is different ball game ..Benin lost war to igala too were they conquered? If Benin was tough has you people claimed they would move north to conquer the igalas and make their make in history ..i'm sorry for you people the relevance your oba has is in southwest due to historic tie ... look at your life trying to fabricate conquering Nri kingdom

davidnazee:


Not an Ewi, it is many Ewis, Oluyins, A Deji and many princes taken hostage.

BabaRamota1980:


Even historians acknowledge this. That Yoruba would have owned everything to the banks of Niger if Bini had not been regarded as a sacred crown and with fraternal to Oyo.

Without the ties to Bini, Ibadan alone is sufficient to wipe out Edoland and everything beyond.

You see what they did when just Seriki Ogedengbe headed to invade them....how they pacified him.

ghostfacekillar:
Bini and land grabbing are five and six. I don't knw what they think of themselves. Toomuch tobacco ave blocked their head. Our ancestors during the war of oba and idu beheaded many warriors in bini and used it to build monument in nri... Davidnazee. I told u when you are ready i will gladly be ur guide to show u ur forefathers rotten head in nri kingdom. Not only nri kingdom.. Ogidi kingdom. Obosi kingdoms. Oba kingdom. Ozubulu kingdom. Nzugbe kingdom. Nkwelle ezunaka kingdom. Ur fore fathers head where used to build alters and monument.

Obalufon:
Ibadan would taken taken ilorin if we were united then..yoruba didn't to succumb to Ibadan rule.. Ibadan liberated ekiti ,yagba Okun ,osgbo restricted the Fulani invaders to Olorin chased then out of our land ... where were the Edos when the Fulani occupied ekiti land but they are quick to claim it as being under their kingdom """ Nothing like Edo.kingdom but Benin kingdom""". Forest shield them from external aggression. they can't withstand the igalas

Obalufon:
Do you know what the ADA stand for? How could a king rule his people with sword if they are not slaves laughing. (IDA/ADA) OmoAda sword boy is a Yoruba slaves?

Obalufon:
this useless people don't know connection between oyo,ife.and owo. They are bastards son...their significant in ekiti and ondo is due to revered nature of stool of oba benin .Oyo controlled the coast from Lagos Badagry to portNovo to Lome. And gave Lagos island a degree of autonomy Oyo Will never go to war with Benin..

Olu317:
The present day ekiti and Ondo-Akoko wasn't heavily occupied by the Yorubas but by Idoko, Ika, efa people etc when Bini kept attacking which brought emigration back to Eastern part from where they came from. Chima,the founder of onitsha,wasn't any son of any Bini Oba but Ika - Ibo man . These people were Ika people,in Edo before they had problem with of the Oba . The migration back then begun around 13th-15th century,Eastward and resettlement begun to happen. Same problems took root with Urhobo,Isoko etc migrating away from Bini.Ika, and these other people were part of Edo before Oranmiyan came. And the maltreatment and heavy human sacrifices depopulated Edo.

Obalufon:



Olu tell me more about the IDOKO PEOPLE

Olu317:
This thread isn't about Idoko but Edo. Although I had to made mention of it because of some Edo lies peddler on here.Briefly, Idoko are Ata ( Igala ) offshoot people who were the aborigine amongst the Nok culture that changed their names at different times because of migration and parents names identification. They can be found in Benue, Ekiti,Ondo,Anambra, Edo etc under the guise of Igala .They were/are heavily influenced linguistically by Yorubas ,Ibos,Jukun,Bini people etc.

Obalufon:



igala and yoruba are from the same lineage

Olu317:
We aren't . Anyone whose family isnt connected to the people at ILE IFE isnt/aren't Yorubas. Oriki(panegyric) and Ebi system nailed who is/are of ancient Yorubas. The same way Ibariba(Tapa) intermarriages brought about the relationship with Yoruba is the way Igala-Idoko is related to Yorubas. I don't belong to the group of Yoruba that's economical or emotional about the truth. I say it as it is. Ebi system knock 'em all off.

Obalufon:


we are OLU have you heard igala people speak..?. they find it easy to understand yoruba,, they are yoroboid .. just like the itskeri

Olu317:
If you say so but we are not. Kindly note, Itsekiri are Yoruba offshoot. Igala are not ,even if they are Yoruboid. Do you know the ancient Egyptians and Hebrew spoke a related language ? This didn't identified them as same offshoot. Infact they were brownish-Dark skin in nature that you hardly could differentiate them but only on tradition. The point here is that Yoruba had a system unique to them because of today. Yoruba may be related to Igala-Idoko via the after mentioned but doesn't go out of it.

Olu317:
If you say so but we are not. Kindly note, Itsekiri are Yoruba offshoot. Igala are not ,even if they are Yoruboid. Do you know the ancient Egyptians and Hebrew spoke a related language ? This didn't identified them as same offshoot. Infact they were brownish-Dark skin in nature that you hardly could differentiate them but only on tradition. The point here is that Yoruba had a system unique to them because of today. Yoruba may be related to Igala-Idoko via the after mentioned but doesn't go out of it.

davidnazee:


I cannot argue with you wether Edo warriors heads were used to build monuments. I know we tried to invade deep into Igboland and your warriors were successful in pushing our invading force back unlike the Yorubas we easily conquered. But if we had tried again we would have won. The task of crossing the Niger in each invasion was too much so we gave up.

But as for the war of Oba and Iduu bro we took thousands of Igbo heads. We defeated you guys well. Who was recorded as fleeing? No be una?

BabaRamota1980:


Whatever Ijebu is to Yoruba, thats what Itsekiri is.

They are dotted to Ijebu same way Ugbodu is dotted to Owo.

I will agree they (Itsekiri) are ruled by a dynasty that is an offshoot of Yoruba.

BabaRamota1980:


Whatever Ijebu is to Yoruba, thats what Itsekiri is.

They are dotted to Ijebu same way Ugbodu is dotted to Owo.

I will agree they (Itsekiri) are ruled by a dynasty that is an offshoot of Yoruba.

Obalufon:
I believe you but igala and Yoruba are from the same source but split along the line we dressed alike speak the same language With some variation and they have their own account on oduduwa which I believe was distorted to suit them..Nupe and Bariba too has their own history regarding the Yoruba... igala gave birth to Nupe

Olu317:
To believe is different from the evidence before you and I. Convince me about the ébi(e) system in Igala with same cognate and I may see it from your perspective.
As you seem to think that Igala gave birth to Nupe but the other way round is most like because of Igala has an account as the name of a man.Nupe-Ibariba-Borgu-Tapa existed before the Igala as a name.Go to Benue state and neighboring, you wil notice ‘Idoko' as a name amongst them . Why is this not amongst Yorubas? Tell yourself the truth my dear brother. If Yoruba is linked with these people,there would have been an account to this effect via a prince(s)/princess(es) migrants. Despite Nupe influence on Kabba,she still retain oral,panegyric, language, etc with Yoruba. In fact, there is a quarter at ILE that still speak same form of dialect with Yagba and Okun people as a whole even if there is slight deviation from the dialects. This can't be said about Igala- Nupe ,that you assume as linked to ancient Yorubas. If you refer to assimiliation, I wouldnt doubt because,this is the way intermarriages came in between different groups. Whatever account being claimed by different people are modern on Oduduwa. Beside, Odua had so many names that he was reffered and the Iconic of it all was ‘Oorni', Oonì O o nì ( owner of vast land ) . Many people want to be connected to him but are all these people his descendants ? Practically ‘no'. Like I had said,let us not engage on Igala- Yoruba connection on this thread.

Note; my last take on it on this thread.


Cheers.

Favor99:
This thread is supposed to be about the meaning of Edo flag. But hateful tribalists that follow Edo matter throughout nairaland have come here to spew their unprovoked hate against Edo.

You tribalists are obviously not happy with your lives. Otherwise why do you like derailing cultural threads with your nonsense. Find ways to better yourselves and your communities rather than trying to bring others down

Olu317:
We aren't . Anyone whose family isnt connected to the people at ILE IFE isnt/aren't Yorubas. Oriki(panegyric) and Ebi system nailed who is/are of ancient Yorubas. The same way Ibariba(Tapa) intermarriages brought about the relationship with Yoruba is the way Igala-Idoko is related to Yorubas. I don't belong to the group of Yoruba that's economical or emotional about the truth. I say it as it is. Ebi system knock 'em all off.