kopell:
@Aventures long time, I no you’re always busy. Welcome back oh, it’s been awhile we’ve read about you practical experiences on the field, please spare some time to write more about these kind of challenge you guys face on fields and how you resolve them. I personally missed you man.

Bros they are not always busy ooo, they have employers they pay on site working young & vibrant Engineer they pay wages & salaries ooo, Any work our Engineers on the forum here need them pls offer them. The method some people use them like rain water is unfair.

FastShipping:


I find myself between rock and hard place when it comes to having solar system. I was spending 4000-4600 naira per day on petrol the lastme I was in Nigeria. I was basically on generator 22-23 hours per day.

My problem is spending between $9500-$11,000 dollars on European solar gadgets or inferior solar system from China or India which won't cost me more than 2 million naira but guaranteed to not hold up for more than few months as read in the available reviews online.

My dilemma is; why should I spend $9500-$11,000 on 8kva solar system on a house I don't even spend more than two weeks in a year? Does it make any sense at all? I'm just not convinced yet.

It doesn't make sense
spend day time in ur house and night at hotels

FastShipping:


I find myself between rock and hard place when it comes to having solar system. I was spending 4000-4600 naira per day on petrol the lastme I was in Nigeria. I was basically on generator 22-23 hours per day.

My problem is spending between $9500-$11,000 dollars on European solar gadgets or inferior solar system from China or India which won't cost me more than 2 million naira but guaranteed to not hold up for more than few months as read in the available reviews online.

My dilemma is; why should I spend $9500-$11,000 on 8kva solar system on a house I don't even spend more than two weeks in a year? Does it make any sense at all? I'm just not convinced yet.

GoodFaith:


I doesn't make sense
spend day time in ur house and night at hotels

Seconded . Since you already have a gen, it's far far more cost effective to just buy the fuel you need for those few days when you're in town.

FastShipping:


I find myself between rock and hard place when it comes to having solar system. I was spending 4000-4600 naira per day on petrol the last timeme I was in Nigeria. I was basically on generator 22-23 hours per day.

My problem is spending between $9500-$11,000 on European solar gadgets or inferior solar system from China or India which won't cost me more than 2 million naira but guaranteed to not hold up for more than few months as read in the available reviews online.

My dilemma is; why should I spend $9500-$11,000 on 8kva solar system on a house I don't even spend more than two weeks in a year? Does it make any sense at all? I'm just not convinced yet.

@Fast shipping we have discuss this if i can rememeber, the same happened to me the two times i was in Naija last time spent a lot of money on diesel like i told you my system was tailored to my usage with the Panels configured to my
wishes. Right it is expensive but if i am clocking 18kwh to 22kwh per day with my Panels the Charge controller is also capable of usinf´g the Grid and like i told you b4 i using the lifepo4 batteries there are a lot of advantages involved you can be totally off grid.

To butress the point further, after correct installation, solar does not need servicing the next 25yrs you don't need diesel or oil, and no pollution and if we look at the Naija situation the next 10yrs we will probably still have challenge of Power.
25 yrs with your solar array you are still going strong and i canbet you it is very additive you will be asking yourself why you have not done this b4

FastShipping:


I find myself between rock and hard place when it comes to having solar system. I was spending 4000-4600 naira per day on petrol the last timeme I was in Nigeria. I was basically on generator 22-23 hours per day.

My problem is spending between $9500-$11,000 on European solar gadgets or inferior solar system from China or India which won't cost me more than 2 million naira but guaranteed to not hold up for more than few months as read in the available reviews online.

My dilemma is; why should I spend $9500-$11,000 on 8kva solar system on a house I don't even spend more than two weeks in a year? Does it make any sense at all? I'm just not convinced yet.

Now this is where I'd love to see such cost analysis from the would be solar contractor/installer.

desiji:
To butress the point further, after correct installation, solar does not need servicing the next 25yrs you don't need diesel or oil, and no pollution and if we look at the Naija situation the next 10yrs we will probably still have challenge of Power.
25 yrs with your solar array you are still going strong and i canbet you it is very additive you will be asking yourself why you have not done this b4

You failed to address cost

abdulwastecx:


Nice analysis sir. It is not cheaper than wooden formwork.
the 8ft x 2ft ( 1.44sqm) will cost an average of N2,500/sqm.

timber form using very sound timber ( 25 x 300 x 3500mm)
cost of timber = 1200/sqm
cost of the strut, braze, nail and binding wire and occasional bamboo brazing = N600
cost of workmanship = N300/sqm
Total cost breakdown = N 2100/sqm ( which is 4,100 per pair ).

At first glance at this two type of formwork, the prefab type looks quite cheaper at least 39% cheaper, but looking deeper into the advantages and disadvantages will give us a clearer picture of which is better.

The prefab formwork:
It is neater and faster than the conventional type of form using timber or wood but can be very difficult to braze when the beam thickness exceed 0.6m (2ft deap beam). when use for raft foundation, it will be difficult to join them verticall and you will need to provide extra brazing in the form of wood and bamboo, this will automatically drive up the price.

it is not that flexible to use for raft or beam fromwork because there are cases where you will need to form a beam that is less than 2.4m (8ft) in length, since you can't easily cut the the form work.

It is difficult to get the joint of the beam or raft formwork done

The wooden/timber form
It is more flexible
It can easily be brazed by batting and bamboo during raft construction.
It can easily be reused for subsequent job like the lintel or the slab/decking during construction

In summary, Timber form will be ideal for custom built home, where the depth of the raft exceed 0.6m (2ft) while the prefab will be ideal for mass housing design where the raft beam is design to be in multiple of 8ft in length, for drainages and other infrastructure project

Very Good I concur.

bixton:


Now this is where I'd love to see such cost analysis from the would be solar contractor/installer.

I am not a Solar contrator neither am i an Installer

FastShipping:


I find myself between rock and hard place when it comes to having solar system. I was spending 4000-4600 naira per day on petrol the last timeme I was in Nigeria. I was basically on generator 22-23 hours per day.

My problem is spending between $9500-$11,000 on European solar gadgets or inferior solar system from China or India which won't cost me more than 2 million naira but guaranteed to not hold up for more than few months as read in the available reviews online.

My dilemma is; why should I spend $9500-$11,000 on 8kva solar system on a house I don't even spend more than two weeks in a year? Does it make any sense at all? I'm just not convinced yet.

4k/day on fuel x say 15days isnt that bad = 60k, unless you are complaining about the noise and all.
how did you arrive at that you need an 8kva inverter?..if you want to cut cost..run only 1ac on the inverter for 4 to 8hrs, get a 5kva inverter , 8 to 12 batteries and over 4kw solar panels. i guess thats the 2m to 3m quote you were given for the chinese/indian brands....they are fairly reliable, no need wasting money on usa/german inverters if you dont want to spend much.

a 4kva indian inverter costs abot 200k, while its german /american models cost 900k n above, same goes for panels chinese panels are about 50% cheaper that usa models.
i have been using the indian inverters for over 5yrs now...working ok

so i got the quote for my builder for my project, 1 unit 4br apartment and 2 units 2 br apartment, all together a single structure. attached is an illustration of the floor plan.is the quote reasonable?..both materials and labour?

MATERIALS.
16mm rod 37 length 12mm rod 130 length 8mm rod 55 length binding wire half roll peggs 5 3inches nail 25 pan weight 1 by 12 boards 85 pieces 2 by 3 woods 40 pieces One to two trip of samd One trip of shipping 150 to 250 bag of cements 3000 pieces of 9 Inches blocks


LABOUR
Foundaton digging #200000 foundaton casting #90000 foundaton iron work to d p c level #100000 foundaton carpentry work to d p c #80.000 mason and labour block work to d p c #200.000 engineer work pegging profile supervision #150.000 Total #820.000

THE STRUCTURES footprint is 255sq meters, land area is 467 sq meters

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so this style os using nylon to prevent water rising through the ground to stain/soak the lower walls, is it a normal practise?. is there other better alternatives?

So, advert is now allowed on this thread?
Issokay.

smallsmall:
So, advert is now allowed on this thread?
Issokay.

Where did you see advert? Advertisement is not allowed and I delete any promptly. Please let me know if I miss any.
Those you see above are questions. Thanks.

Hajji M.

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mufutau55:


Where did you see advert? Advertisement is not allowed and I delete any promptly. Please let me know if I miss any.
Those you see above are questions. Thanks.

Hajji M.

Did you not see the post by KDesignteck up there, where he advertised his Achitectural drawings, with so many pictures of his product and asked if anyone wants to patronise him, Is that not advert or do we have two different definition of adverts here?

I have nothing against the poster but l just think the same yardstick should be used across board, no sacred cow.
But if you say you dont see it or it is not advert but QUESTIONS, please don vex, so be it.

smallsmall:


Did you not see the post by KDesignteck up there, where he advertised his Achitectural drawings, with so many pictures of his product and asked if anyone wants to patronise him, Is that not advert or do we have two different definition of adverts here?

I have nothing against the poster but l just think the same yardstick should be used across board, no sacred cow.
But if you say you dont see it or it is not advert but QUESTIONS, please don vex, so be it.

This rather sounds rude. This is a free forum, courtesy matters a lot.

smallsmall:

Did you not see the post by KDesignteck up there, where he advertised his Achitectural drawings, with so many pictures of his product and asked if anyone wants to patronise him, Is that not advert or do we have two different definition of adverts here?

I have nothing against the poster but l just think the same yardstick should be used across board, no sacred cow.
But if you say you dont see it or it is not advert but QUESTIONS, please don vex, so be it.

May be when you login before I did and you see the advert, but when I login and see the advert; I delete it pronto. So may be we have a timing issue. If you still see the advert now, please quote it here for me to see. I do not favor anyone on this thread.
I no dey vex and rudeness is not part of me. Thank you.

Hajji M.

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Bimpsyyyyy:
No b advert oh, i over brought wooden doors on my site and i want to sell it, if interested we can talk on whatsapp on 09069193297. Abeg no delete my message, i need money ni.

U are always looking for money...U think say na only u dey find money ni?

earthrealm:
copyright: dennis3d

so this style os using nylon to prevent water rising through the ground to stain/soak the lower walls, is it a normal practise?. is there other better alternatives?

It is normal practice sir.
Hardcore is also another alternative, but nylon still remains the best if u ask me, due to its high water resistance level.

earthrealm:
so i got the quote for my builder for my project, 1 unit 4br apartment and 2 units 2 br apartment, all together a single structure. attached is an illustration of the floor plan.is the quote reasonable?..both materials and labour?

MATERIALS.
16mm rod 37 length 12mm rod 130 length 8mm rod 55 length binding wire half roll peggs 5 3inches nail 25 pan weight 1 by 12 boards 85 pieces 2 by 3 woods 40 pieces One to two trip of samd One trip of shipping 150 to 250 bag of cements 3000 pieces of 9 Inches blocks


LABOUR
Foundaton digging #200000 foundaton casting #90000 foundaton iron work to d p c level #100000 foundaton carpentry work to d p c #80.000 mason and labour block work to d p c #200.000 engineer work pegging profile supervision #150.000 Total #820.000

THE STRUCTURES footprint is 255sq meters, land area is 467 sq meters

Looks fair to a large extent, though it largely depends on d height of your foundation which we dont know. But as regards the bag of cements why such a huge variation? & also two trips of sand may likely not be enough( although i dont know d tonnage he is working with).

Where is your project and what type of soil There is conflict on costing need for blocks versus digging cost and others.

earthrealm:
so i got the quote for my builder for my project, 1 unit 4br apartment and 2 units 2 br apartment, all together a single structure. attached is an illustration of the floor plan.is the quote reasonable?..both materials and labour?

MATERIALS.
16mm rod 37 length 12mm rod 130 length 8mm rod 55 length binding wire half roll peggs 5 3inches nail 25 pan weight 1 by 12 boards 85 pieces 2 by 3 woods 40 pieces One to two trip of samd One trip of shipping 150 to 250 bag of cements 3000 pieces of 9 Inches blocks


LABOUR
Foundaton digging #200000 foundaton casting #90000 foundaton iron work to d p c level #100000 foundaton carpentry work to d p c #80.000 mason and labour block work to d p c #200.000 engineer work pegging profile supervision #150.000 Total #820.000

THE STRUCTURES footprint is 255sq meters, land area is 467 sq meters

Hello House who has an idea how much per sqm of POP and wall screeding costs these days? who can recommend someone who is good at his trade for me. thanks.

Is the quote for foundation alone or for the entire building?

earthrealm:
so i got the quote for my builder for my project, 1 unit 4br apartment and 2 units 2 br apartment, all together a single structure. attached is an illustration of the floor plan.is the quote reasonable?..both materials and labour?

MATERIALS.
16mm rod 37 length 12mm rod 130 length 8mm rod 55 length binding wire half roll peggs 5 3inches nail 25 pan weight 1 by 12 boards 85 pieces 2 by 3 woods 40 pieces One to two trip of samd One trip of shipping 150 to 250 bag of cements 3000 pieces of 9 Inches blocks


LABOUR
Foundaton digging #200000 foundaton casting #90000 foundaton iron work to d p c level #100000 foundaton carpentry work to d p c #80.000 mason and labour block work to d p c #200.000 engineer work pegging profile supervision #150.000 Total #820.000

THE STRUCTURES footprint is 255sq meters, land area is 467 sq meters

smallsmall:
So, advert is now allowed on this thread?
Issokay.

Best so far

It's the best so far. But depending on the water content in your area. It's not a must to use membrane during Site concrete construction.

earthrealm:
copyright: dennis3d

so this style os using nylon to prevent water rising through the ground to stain/soak the lower walls, is it a normal practise?. is there other better alternatives?

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Talk2iyfy:
Please help with realistic estimate. What's the detailed stage by stage cost of building a 4 bedroom duplex (4rooms) with only one parlour and double 2bedroom flat (1 down, 1up) all joined together. How many blocks will it take on the average. We are moulding blocks while waiting for the plan. Total built area is 254sm. Thanks