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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jimmyiovine: 10:02pm On Jul 27, 2018 |
tbaba1234: I personally feel that teams such as the U13/U15 need to have younger coaches looking after them. Younger coaches will be more willing to not only develop the players but also develop themselves as coaches. More willing to learn up to date training practices and programmes. Where are the next genration of coaches of Nigerian decent (coaches in their 20s and 30s)? This is another issue I think the NFF need to address 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 10:22pm On Jul 27, 2018 |
jimmyiovine: It is not just about the age, it is about the knowledge. A player like Finidi has been coaching in the academies of good clubs. He should be drafted to manage the young teams if possible. Finidi would be a great addition. 5 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 10:38pm On Jul 27, 2018 |
tbaba1234: I don't know why you're calling it failing but clubs know what they want. A number of players have not been signed after trials but there have been guys like Azango and Moses Ebiye who got picked up by European clubs after trials just last season. We have U17 guys signing in Europe every day so I can't agree with your assessment. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 10:41pm On Jul 27, 2018 |
tbaba1234: Well maybe he can run assistant for Manu Garba. Him being a great player should not automatically mean he gets a coaching gig. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 10:53pm On Jul 27, 2018 |
BascoVanVeli: Many European clubs are more open to youth players because they are more receptive to learning and relearning. They usually stay a few years in the academy before they are ready for first team action. Taiwo Awoniyi had to go through a process of unlearning and learning new things. There are successful trials but there are many more unsuccessful ones and it is often due to a lack of fundamentals. And these are not even the top level leagues. The way we learn football, we tend to hold on to the ball much longer that the average European with sometimes unproductive flair. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by COOL10(m): 10:59pm On Jul 27, 2018 |
tbaba1234:. Exactly. This is indeed a major problem. We have so many selfish players seeking personal glory and little playmakers who work for the sake of the team. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 10:59pm On Jul 27, 2018 |
BascoVanVeli: He has the experience to lead by himself He has worked as the youth coach of Mallorca and before that, FC Zwolle in Holland. He understands our structures work in more developed climes. He is qualified, maybe even more than Manu. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jimmyiovine: 11:10pm On Jul 27, 2018 |
BascoVanVeli: Lol no way. He's probably more qualified than Manu Garba. Also remember assistant coaches for age grade teams don't even earn any basic salary, reportedly |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 11:27pm On Jul 27, 2018 |
Isaac Success's rating as a second half sub for Watford in the preseason game against Stevenage ; Isaac Success (replaced Jakubiak): Looked dangerous in attack. Fast, direct and looking likely to play a key role for Watford this term. 7 Cc football.london 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:31pm On Jul 27, 2018 |
tbaba1234: They are more open to young players because it makes financial sense. If a guy is serious it would take one conversation with the coach for him to get over hanging on the ball. You cannot expect every 24 year old to easily break into a European team. Every Nigerian footballer must not play in Europe. Just like every African American basketballer must not play in the NBA. Some are lucky but a lot more are not. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:33pm On Jul 27, 2018 |
tbaba1234: Manu is a world cup winner. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:33pm On Jul 27, 2018 |
jimmyiovine: Manu is a world cup winner. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:37pm On Jul 27, 2018 |
COOL10: Players hang on balls in Europe. Remember Jose complaining about Pogba and Sanchez last season. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 11:37pm On Jul 27, 2018 |
BascoVanVeli: I am talking qualifications wise plus experience in Europe which is what players will need to have successful careers. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by COOL10(m): 11:47pm On Jul 27, 2018 |
BascoVanVeli:. I understand. There must always be that one selfish player. The only thing that'll save him is the goals he scores or assists he makes. This,you can expect from Sanchez. The problem here is we have too many Ronaldinho wannabes who play selfishly but either end up losing the ball,missing great opportunities or giving wrong crosses thereby costing the team. Football should be a team game but some just take it upon themselves to ruin it. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:49pm On Jul 27, 2018 |
tbaba1234: Manu might only have a CAF badge but the success he has had at the U17 level coupled with the caliber of players he has developed makes this a no brainer. I don't see how Finidi starting under him should be an issue. Nigeria is not Europe he will need to get integrated into the system. Remember Emanuel Amunike did the same thing before leading his own team to glory 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 11:54pm On Jul 27, 2018 |
BascoVanVeli: What was Amuneke's experience when he was assistant? Finidi has years of experience in europe coaching youth players. I am saying, he can run his own shift based on his qualifications alone. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:56pm On Jul 27, 2018 |
COOL10: I know how you feel that drives me crazy too. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 11:59pm On Jul 27, 2018 |
Ayotomiwa Dele-Bashiru great wizards of the thread. Reveal his past & present unto me |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:59pm On Jul 27, 2018 |
tbaba1234: They should sack Manu Garba? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 12:08am On Jul 28, 2018 |
BascoVanVeli: You are saying something different. I simply said someone like Finidi should be given the opportunity to manage one of the youth teams. It can be now or in the future. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 12:09am On Jul 28, 2018 |
ChrisKels: I am proud of the boy. He admitted his fault and fixed it. I pray things happen for him this term. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 12:11am On Jul 28, 2018 |
tbaba1234: Meanwhile he can impart his knowledge as an assistant coach. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by COOL10(m): 12:20am On Jul 28, 2018 |
BascoVanVeli:. I'm glad you now understand |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 12:36am On Jul 28, 2018 |
COOL10: I do understand but that can be coached out of the player. That cannot be a reason why African players are behind their European counterparts. We just need better coaches and facilities then you will see a serious league. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 3:42am On Jul 28, 2018 |
BascoVanVeli:Asst Coach? That would be an insult on an injury yet to happen. why? Baba Finidi is well versed and capable of managing a youth team on his own. Why can't we see the handwriting on the wall. Spain invited him to do similar job at a summit. If the next Iniesta comes from that summit and gives credit to what Finidi imparted, is it then we would begin to blame NFF for not doing the right thing then? I'm not saying he is all knowing, but Finidi is okay with a cadet team. okay name peeps he will be asst to first. Haba. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 4:22am On Jul 28, 2018 |
BascoVanVeli: Now you are getting to the point. Better coaches at the youth level will impact values that will help players become better professionals. A coach like Finidi with good experience in the spanish youth system which is probably one of the best in the world can impact inmeasurable knowledge to Nigerian kids. Structure and coaches. 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Maticja: 6:30am On Jul 28, 2018 |
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by COOL10(m): 6:51am On Jul 28, 2018 |
BascoVanVeli:. It is not the only reason but definitely a MAJOR reason. Shebi you know that 'coached out of the player' implies an unlearning process and when you're so used to something,it's quite hard to let go. Let's say you finally manage to do so,you have to start a new learning process which is also not easy. How old will the player be when everything is finally learnt especially with this issue of age cheating? Majority of our players go abroad believing they know the basics of football only to go there and find out that even a 12 year old knows better than they do. Football is played differently in Europe than in Africa and you and I know that to excel as a professional football player,YOU GATS PLAY IN EUROPE 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Lucque: 11:01am On Jul 28, 2018 |
Nathaniel ogbeta.. Defender with man city... Anoda Nigerian possibly 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 11:19am On Jul 28, 2018 |
Hope out falconers aren't going to colet in France? I expect they should be zealous to outdo what Oparanozie and Oshoala did years ago. Carl Ikeme retires and GKAssoc congratulated him. Will miss him. One Femi Ilesanmi played against Arsenal for Boreham. I hope they wana watch out for him. Unai seems more than eager to sign Ndidi. £25m is still the price and looks wack to me. wish Nacho leaves Leicester and follow the man that gave him a big chance without partiality or prejudice @Pelegrini. He is at West Ham now. And I believe we'll he would take a good risk once again cos his confidence on Nacho is high. Would've loved to see Aluko in the EPL with Fulham. 1 Like |
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