Roland17:


I did not say he played forward, I said he finds himself in forward scoring/ attacking positions and that is because of the how fluid City plays in the final third. They rotate and interchange roles and that is why Aguero can provide an assist from the wings against Arsenal for Bernado to score.

So Kroos just stays inside centre circle for madrid abi?

Nihilstjnr:


Kroos was relatively lucky to be a Bayern Product - coming through at a club that is:
1. guaranteed a league title each season before a ball is even kicked
2. commited to promoting talent from it's youth ranks.

Kroos talent is not commensurate with the trophies he has won.

It's like saying Pedro worked hard to win the World Cup or all those medals in Barca.

I'm not saying he didn't work hard or that he's not a good player, but both men clearly were carried along by their more illustrious colleagues

Shebi we go dey this season.

make we watch ball.

There are some players who have definitely won more than their talent level

Gary Neville is a good example won the treble, won everything in club football and Ronaldo Lima is an example on the reverse side of his club football career

raumdeuter:


Ronaldo is also no longer playing for Madrid. Barcelona at their peak had Pedro playing for them

Ronaldo maintained his starting place until he left Madrid, he was never deemed surplus to Madrid. Can we say the same for your Pedro?

Ronaldo is an assured starter for Juventus, can we say the same for your Pedro at Chelsea?

Roland17:


I did not say he played forward, I said he finds himself in forward scoring/ attacking positions and that is because of the how fluid City plays in the final third. They rotate and interchange roles and that is why Aguero can provide an assist from the wings against Arsenal for Bernado to score.

Almost every team does this.

I still remember Marcelo scoring at the edge of Bayern box

How could some people attribute the performance of Toni Kroos that successfully made Madrid's first XI for 3 straight seasons (and still counting) to "luck"? Luck in a star-studded Madrid team?

KDB, though an ace player, is definitely not in the same class as Kross: The latter's quality clear trumps the Belgian's.

raumdeuter:


If they are ranking the key players to Madrid 3 CL wins what position will Kroos make? DOnt forget Madrid won in 2014 before he joined

Ronaldo
Ramos
Marcelo
Modric
Casemiro
Navas

In my opinion were all more important than Kroos

where is Benzema? Six players already and no Benzema?

patrickmuf:
By anywhere, I meant club not role on the pitch...Kroos is the one that is dispensable no doubt

bullocks..... Modrić and Kroos are untouchable. When in
form, they’re the two best midfielders in the world plus they’re usually very, very
consistent. No one comes close.

Greatihex:
where is Benzema? Six players already and no Benzema?

Una dey mad for this thread I swear

Double post

Man Dayo and Nihilist really fall my hand for this argument..

Dayo even going as far as comparing him to Gary Neville

Yunno what Philip Lahm isn't even as good as Ashley Cole. While i feel Lahm benefited from having talented players around him, if he was put in a Chelsea team.. Or even in the english team, he would have found his actual level bloody gum body

Melvyn11:

bullocks..... Modrić and Kroos are untouchable. When in
form, they’re the two best midfielders in the world plus they’re usually very, very
consistent. No one comes close.

Which yeye consistent. Consistency gives you league titles. Form gives you UCLs. When they're on form
they are the best but are not consistent. Madrid poor league record is proof of that.

Kimbeast:

Which yeye consistent. Consistency gives you league titles. Form gives you UCLs. When they're on form
they are the best but are not consistent. Madrid poor league record is proof of that.

Wooh give me form ooo..
Let me have 1 WC and 4 UCL.. Keep your consistent

Kroos is/was a craque but his laziness these days is becoming too much.

liveLongNprospa:
Man Dayo and Nihilist really fall my hand for this argument..

Dayo even going as far as comparing him to Gary Neville

Yunno what Philip Lahm isn't even as good as Ashley Cole. While i feel Lahm benefited from having talented players around him, if he was put in a Chelsea team.. Or even in the english team, he would have found his actual level bloody gum body

nobody said Kroos is not a good player.

but good yato si best.

some animals are more equal than others.

Ozil is a good player - when he's not surrounded by quality he looks likes a dog's vomit

KDB has never played with teammates of Kroos quality.

Casemiro benched the living daylights out of Fernandinho for Brazil.

Modric was voted best player at a WC...unlike Silva.


And that's just the midfield o


There is something known as kickback püssy - sometimes you go clubbing with a mega baller that buys like 20 bottles in the club. All the girls flock to his table...He picks like 2 or 3, and by virtue of being in his entourage, you just mop up what falls in your lap- no questions asked and certainly no discussion.

You think there's no benefit to playing with a 5 time WPOTY? what did you think Ororo was winning all those awards for?

Kroos is benefiting from the kickback püssy that Ororo attracted to the table.

gensteejay:
How could some people attribute the performance of Toni Kroos that successfully made Madrid's first XI for 3 straight seasons (and still counting) to "luck"? Luck in a star-studded Madrid team?

KDB, though an ace player, is definitely not in the same class as Kross: The latter's quality clear trumps the Belgian's.

what is this class?

God saved Kroos that Modric didn't go to Inter again.

Let me see the class when it's just him without Modric and Ororo

Nihilstjnr:


what is this class?

God saved Kroos that Modric didn't go to Inter again.

Let me see the class when it's just him without Modric and Ororo

You people are just overhyping KDB's repertoire cum achievements while downplaying Kroos'.

gensteejay:

You people are just overhyping KDB's repertoire cum achievements while downplaying Kroos'.

what are these acheivements

It's like saying Benzema is better than Aguero because of all those UCLs

What do you think Ororo won WPOTY 4 times at for?

gensteejay:

You people are just overhyping KDB's repertoire cum achievements while downplaying Kroos'.

its classic premier league fans overhyping, ronaldo is the only one who was praised in laliga mainly because he came from the epl,divide kroos's career by half he is still bigger than KDB

Ibime:
Kroos is/was a craque but his laziness these days is becoming too much.

Laziness these days?

From way back 2015

raumdeuter:
I told someone Kroos isnt crative enough for an attacking midfielder, and too lazy for a defensive midfielder

A40:
Kroos's lazy passes are less liable to hurt the team from the #10 position

raumdeuter:
Kroos is typically lazy or lackadaisical and in Madrid he has workhorses like Modric and Casemiro slaving for him

madrid5:
its classic premier league fans overhyping, ronaldo is the only one who was praised in laliga mainly because he came from the epl,divide kroos's career by half he is still bigger than KDB

Divide Pedro's career by half and it's actually better than Neymars

Doesn't mean jack

Nihilstjnr:


what is this class?

God saved Kroos that Modric didn't go to Inter again.

Let me see the class when it's just him without Modric and Ororo

Haa

Nihilstjnr:
Divide Pedro's career by half and it's actually better than Neymars
Doesn't mean jack

Or Valdes career by 3 better than DDG

raumdeuter:


Or Valdes career by 3 better than DDG

Nihilstjnr:


Divide Pedro's career by half and it's actually better than Neymars

Doesn't mean jack

except pedro was a bench player for that half his career,okay go on then kroos na bench player?

so bayern boy because kroos get workrate weakness for im game na that wan make debruyne better pass am,debruyne is also better than pirlo abegi,gattuso and vidal did all the defending

Nihilstjnr:


what is this class?

God saved Kroos that Modric didn't go to Inter again.

Let me see the class when it's just him without Modric and Ororo

When he won the world cup with Germany was modric babysitting him or was ororo there also?

Melvyn11:

When he won the world cup with Germany was modric babysitting him or was ororo there also?

lol sense is forbidden in this thread

Melvyn11:

When he won the world cup with Germany was modric babysitting him or was ororo there also?

Nope, but Boateng and Gotze were..

Guys, watch Dayo hate on Thiago Alcantara if he moves to Real Madrid.

No be today e start!!!

madrid5:
except pedro was a bench player for that half his career,okay go on then kroos na bench player?

Even if thats true? The his performance in the other half of his career is still not comensurate to the number of titles he won.

See this guy o.

As if Benzema as a starter has not won all the same things with Madrid that Kroos has won.

And this is you cussing out Benz here

madrid5:
i take a fit bale over salah anyday,f3ck that shit a firmihno over the shit offered by benzema for the pass 2 years

So Benzema in your own opinion has been offering shìt for 2 years, while winning 3 UCL in the same time period, what argument are you making for Kroos again?

Roland17:
Guys, watch Dayo hate on Thiago Alcantara if he moves to Real Madrid.

No be today e start!!!

I dont rate Thiago that highly. I prefer Vidal to him even though Vidal has left Bayern and Thiago is still here

Thiago is a player that just completes non risky passes on the field the type that prefer 99% pass completion sending balls from Kimmich to Alaba to Neuer to Boateng without hurting anyone. The type of thing that Hidden Hazard does in attack playing for possesion and takeon but rarely doing anything

CM currently 1. Kevn Debruyne(ability and age)

raumdeuter:


Cant we throw Tolliso for more steel in there somewhere. I dont really like the combo of Thiago and James. Feels to soft to me

A40:
I'm still worried about our lack of depth on the left flank and this is why I am adamant on Draxler. That Thiago sef never kuku show himself against elite opposition for Europe. Na why I go dey always vex for your guy Pep. Players like Asensio dey. Baba go dey buy Bernat and Pepe Reina

This was my opinion of Thiago a year ago before any Madrid link came out

raumdeuter:

Anyway if KDB is disgruntled and wants to leave that is one player I will hand over Bayern midfield to and ship Thiago out

raumdeuter:


No Kroos hasnt been playing in a deeper position than KDB
both play as CMs with a dedicate DM behind them
Both of them have a DM in Fernandinho and Casemiro

ok...I cant debate further with assumptions which are not facts... enjoy