hensben:
I see people that define a player with stat as kids who started watching football post cr7 and Messi era. Stat is fraudulent due to so many things to be put into consideration before comparing two players playing for different club and league, so is number of trophies or trophies won to rate two players considering football is a team sport, not lawn tennis.

yes you are right Erikson> xavi

madrid5:
yes you are right Erikson> xavi

Please let us not go there.

madrid5:
so you don't know debruyne plays advanced role than kroos before speaking blasphemy?,baba forget excuse xavi had better midfielders +messi thats why he is not better than Erikson.

How can his role be more advanced when he has Silva in front of him? That he pushes himself upfront is because he's trying to make something happen. Not someone whose specialty is to recycle pass while Modric and Cas put in the goods

hopefulLandlord:


Let me ask you, would KDB bench Sergio Busquets too?

busquets is the second most influential player in Barça aside Messi, he is a typical Johan Cryuff kinda dm which is what the Barça philosophy demands.

Coutinho14:
Kroos is that guy that makes 1000 passes a game with 99% accuracy and still wouldn't create two goal scoring opportunities the whole time.

Yet you rate Xavi over Modrić, Kroos and KDB?

I'm starting to think you're just trolling

hensben:
I see people that define a player with stat as kids who started watching football post cr7 and Messi era. Stat is fraudulent due to so many things to be put into consideration before comparing two players playing for different club and league, so is number of trophies or trophies won to rate two players considering football is a team sport, not lawn tennis.

..... but both are still active nah?!

Unlimited22:

So is Sarri playing a defensive abi na Counter attack game with Chelsea now?

I forgot Kante has played a single match under Sarri against Almighty Huddersfield, that's enough to make a conclusion on how good he would be under an attacking coach? okay

I think I'm talking to people who have made a conclusion then are looking for things to buttress that conclusion. in other words they move from conclusion to proof rather than the other way around

Coutinho14:
busquets is the second most influential player in Barça aside Messi, he is a typical Johan Cryuff kinda dm which is what the Barça philosophy demands.

But Kevin De Bruyne would bench Casemiro at DEFENSIVE MIDFIELD in Madrid.
Guy, stretch mark dey your brain.

hopefulLandlord:


"Kante can play for any team and tactics" I like this rubbish

Kante came to prominence in a defensive and counterattacking Leicester City

Moved to a defensive and counterattacking Chelsea under Conte

Played in a French team that plays defensive and counterattack whenever they face a top team


But in your head Kante would play any style even though the teams he's played in are all counterattacking teams at best?

Now let me ask you though? why is Busquets who has only played possession team ruled out from being able to play other styles but Kante is not judged by same metric?

Bousquet can never survive playing for counterattacking team, I can put my money on this. FYI, Kante just scored last week in a ball possession team under Sarri. Bousquet is limited take it from me. You think it’s a co-incodence Bousquet has not been nominated by FIFA or UEFA in team of the season after Barca success in this decade.

madrid5:
bros make I hear word abeg,xavi at 28 was a nobody in football,it was during euro 2008 that his career came to light at age 28,he had 1league title 1 Champions league title,a couple of copa dey ray,1 euro and just one individual award,go to kroos profile and educate yourseft abeg,4 champions league already,1 world cup,team of the year in the world cup,this is nothing new just typical premier league fans and their ignorance lol.

Thank you!

hopefulLandlord:


I forgot Kante has played a single match under Sarri against Almighty Huddersfield, that's enough to make a conclusion on how good he would be under an attacking coach? okay

I think I'm talking to people who have made a conclusion then are looking for things to buttress that conclusion. in other words they move from conclusion to proof rather than the other way around

I know it's too early to make conclusion about Sarri in CHELSEA, but Sarri has never played a primarily defensive game from his time at Empoli till date.
And the first match showed good signs. Kante played in a team that looked to keep the ball and he still did well.
As a DEFENSIVE MIDFIELDER, Kante would bench Sergio in any other team apart from Barcelona. Emphasis on the words that are Capitalised.

madrid5:
yes you are right Erikson> xavi

Erikson and Xavi in same sentence? This is madness.

hensben:
Bousquet can never survive playing for counterattacking team, I can put my money on this. FYI, Kante just scored last week in a ball possession team under Sarri. Bousquet is limited take it from me. You think it’s a co-incodence Bousquet has not been nominated by FIFA or UEFA in team of the season after Barca success in this decade.

OMG, Kante played 1 match under an attacking coach against Almighty Huddersfield! Sergio has NEVER played under any other style of play. what makes you so sure he won't survive in another style you haven't seen him participating in? that you haven't bleeped that beautiful girl you're eyeing means you can't?

Think! its not a sin

Oasis007:




..... but both are still active nah?!

I am talking about the fans who started watching football because of those two.

hensben:
Erikson and Xavi in same sentence? This is madness.

Let's all troll together.

raumdeuter, would KDB displace prime Xavi? if no, why?

hopefulLandlord:
OMG, Kante played 1 match under an attacking coach against Almighty Huddersfield! Sergio has NEVER played under any other style of play. what makes you so sure he won't survive in another style you haven't seen him participating in? that you haven't bleeped that beautiful girl you're eyeing means you can't?

Think! its not a sin

His style of play and most times when Barca is under pressure after pep Barca Bousquet is always bullied to goal and Barca defense become vulnerable. If you watch Kante play he is not just a runner but very technical with the ball. He is strong, has speed, technical with the ball and can hold the ball very well.

Nihilstjnr:


Forget that thing.

it's easy to 'dominate' when you have machines like Ororo playing in front of you.

Let's see what Kroos can do in a team that doesn't also contain the greatest forward of all time...

KDB is to me the most complete midfielder since Gullit.

Physically he's fast and strong. Technically he get am. Mentally he full ground. Any-cally KDB pass Kroos yaga yaga.

Kroos doesn't have Ororo in German national team last I checked

Neither did he have Ororo at Bayern

make of that what you will

hopefulLandlord:
OMG, Kante played 1 match under an attacking coach against Almighty Huddersfield! Sergio has NEVER played under any other style of play. what makes you so sure he won't survive in another style you haven't seen him participating in? that you haven't bleeped that beautiful girl you're eyeing means you can't?

Think! its not a sin

Look at Barcelona and their style of play. They lose the ball, they hound you from the front till you're forced to play a long ball which their defenders recycle and their keep-all starts again. Busquets is also a really good ball keeper and can recycle things in midfield, no problem. He also synced well with Xavi and Iniesta.
Seriously, you've seen him play for years. He's a technically gifted player, I agree.
But do you honestly believe even prime Busquets would survive in a counter-attacking team?
I doubt he'd even last very long as a DEFENSIVE MIDFIELDER for Madrid sef.
Lemme ask this question. Who's a better defensive midfielder between Fernandinho and Kante?

Unlimited22:


Please let us not go there.

why not?,the logic of KDB being better than kroos is that he has more end product and kroos played with better teammates,the same is the case for xavi and Erikson.

hensben:
Erikson and Xavi in same sentence? This is madness.

kroos and debruyne in one sentence? this is madness

Unlimited22:

Let's all troll together.

The truth is Kroose>KDB. Only people wey nor know ball go think otherwise.
Pogba and kroose is comparable but the former is unserious player so I will still pick Kroose ahead of him. Kante>Casimero no doubt.

madrid5:
kroos and debruyne in one sentence? this is madness

The truth is Kroose>KDB. Only people wey nor know ball go think otherwise.
Pogba and kroose is comparable but the former is unserious player so I will still pick Kroose ahead of him. Kante>Casimero no doubt.

hopefulLandlord:


Kroos doesn't have Ororo in German national team last I checked

Neither did he have Ororo at Bayern

make of that what you will

There's nothing to make of that in a comparison with KDB.

Unlimited22:

Look at Barcelona and their style of play. They lose the ball, they hound you from the front till you're forced to play a long ball which their defenders recycle and their keep-all starts again. Busquets is also a really good ball keeper and can recycle things in midfield, no problem. He also synced well with Xavi and Iniesta.
Seriously, you've seen him play for years. He's a technically gifted player, I agree.
But do you honestly believe even prime Busquets would survive in a counter-attacking team?
I doubt he'd even last very long as a DEFENSIVE MIDFIELDER for Madrid sef.
Lemme ask this question. Who's a better defensive midfielder between Fernandinho and Kante?

Bousquet will not survive one season in a counterattacking team.

Unlimited22:

Look at Barcelona and their style of play. They lose the ball, they hound you from the front till you're forced to play a long ball which their defenders recycle and their keep-all starts again. Busquets is also a really good ball keeper and can recycle things in midfield, no problem. He also synced well with Xavi and Iniesta.
Seriously, you've seen him play for years. He's a technically gifted player, I agree.
But do you honestly believe even prime Busquets would survive in a counter-attacking team?
I doubt he'd even last very long as a DEFENSIVE MIDFIELDER for Madrid sef.
Lemme ask this question. Who's a better defensive midfielder between Fernandinho and Kante?

Busquets played many games for Barca as a CB. I think you guys don't watch enough of Laliga and its hard watching Busquets in EPL games

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How can his role be more advanced when he has Silva in front of him? That he pushes himself upfront is because he's trying to make something happen. Not someone whose specialty is to recycle pass while Modric and Cas put in the goods[/quote/]lol see this guy,which silva,abeg stop saying trash abeg debruyne is deeper than silva?,they both roam like them just iniesta and xavi back then,so the excuse of xavi being deeper has been canceled what him better than Erikson?

Nihilstjnr:


There's nothing to make of that in a comparison with KDB.

Your previous point is quoted was saying its easy for Kroosifier because he has Ororo. aren't you sticking to that or you're dropping it like a hot potato?

hopefulLandlord:


Your previous point is quoted was saying its easy for Kroosifier because he has Ororo. aren't you sticking to that or you're dropping it like a hot potato?

by the logic of this thread Erikson is better than xavi,he had better midfield partners then he messi,so Erikson >xavi

madrid5:
by the logic of this thread Erikson is better than xavi,he had better midfield partners then he messi,so Erikson >xavi

lol

Eruditor:


I don't know about flak. He is a solid player. But he is not that otherworldly talent he is being made out to look like. He simply does not make a difference and nobody has shown how he does. They keep pointing to team trophies he won but when we flesh out his contributions he always falls way below the pecking order.

Like Xavi, right?

Kimbeast:

And so. He is over rated as in he has always played surrounded by world class players (Bayern,
Germany, Real) which has allowed him to show all of his strengths in possession
and minimized his lack of ability off of it. He couldnt make a struggling team a
contender like kdb did at wolfsburg with higher work rate and abilities
off the ball. He is a side ways pass merchant.

So KDB > Xavi, Iniesta, Busquets