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Re: 10 Most Influential People Of All Time by arherfish(m): 9:22am On Aug 15, 2018
Where's Michael Jackson.

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Re: 10 Most Influential People Of All Time by Hakeymco(m): 9:27am On Aug 15, 2018
Jesus is the creator and also creature, what a being...laughing in Swahili

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Re: 10 Most Influential People Of All Time by IbnAbdullah1(m): 9:33am On Aug 15, 2018
MRSoftapples:
If the late Michael Jackson had created his own religion,, he would have had more influence than the one Muhammad created..

People underestimate the amount of influence he had when he was at his prime,, at a time, Michael Jackson was the most famous and most influential during his prime days,, even more influential than religion itself..

People fainted just by watching him sing..


We are talking serious issues here you are talking trash.
He may be a popular musician but not influential as a human being.
Influence is different from being popular or well known.
I can name people who are as popular as Micheal Jackson.

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Re: 10 Most Influential People Of All Time by Lazyreporta(m): 9:33am On Aug 15, 2018
emmysoftyou:
in response to your first article..

aristotle didn't write his ideas or theory by himself, most of his teachings were jotted down by Aristotle disciples..

Oga I have said own.

Ok sir.
Wikipedia said so... Everything on that list
Thanks
Re: 10 Most Influential People Of All Time by googi: 9:34am On Aug 15, 2018
Did I miss the Africans?

Really l feel sorry for your generation.

Probably does not know a single one that qualifies.
Re: 10 Most Influential People Of All Time by arherfish(m): 9:34am On Aug 15, 2018
IbnAbdullah1:



We are talking serious issues here you are talking trash.
He may be a popular musician but not influential as a human being.
Influence is different from being popular or well known.
I can name people who are as popular as Micheal Jackson.
Please we are interested in that your list.
Re: 10 Most Influential People Of All Time by IbnAbdullah1(m): 9:37am On Aug 15, 2018
Tk4all:


they have arrived!!!!
Christians don't know mohammed as a prophet but the Quran mentioned Jesus. so who is popular among them?
mind you, we are talking about popularity, not whose teaching is correct.


Popularity is different from influence.
One maybe popular but not influential.
Do you know how many leaders and presidents are taking after the teachings and to some extent the life style of Muhammad( peace be upon him) since time immemorial?

Tell me one person that has influence humanity that objectively.
Just one.

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Re: 10 Most Influential People Of All Time by Viicfuntop(f): 9:39am On Aug 15, 2018
ayomidegambari:
the reason Prophet Muhammad is greater than others is far beyond your generation reasoning! So give ursef brain

Ok I get it, you are a Muslim. I could tell by the aggressiveness of your comment. Muhammad is greater to you but not to me and other Christians and other religions. I don’t know who he is except he belongs to the Muslims. You are entitled to your opinion.

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Re: 10 Most Influential People Of All Time by IbnAbdullah1(m): 9:40am On Aug 15, 2018
arherfish:

Please we are interested in that your list.


Do you know Elvis Presley?


Anorld Schwzanegger?

Pele
Maradona
and a history of others who well known today but not as influential as Prophet Muhammad (peace upon him)

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Re: 10 Most Influential People Of All Time by MrSensor(m): 9:41am On Aug 15, 2018
IbnAbdullah1:



It is so obvious the writer of this lacks objectivity in putting place in their right perspective.

Go do a survey or an opinion poll about who his most jnflential in the world today and till the end.

Jules Masserman said so a Jew.

Micheal H hart (A Christian American) said the same in this book ''The 100''

Alphonso Lamarteeen said so in his book the history of the Turks.

And many other reputable unbiased scholars of history and human psychology.

The name that is called all round the world most is Muhammad.
From Nigeria to Chad, From Japan to Pacau, From America to Palestine all around the world.
His teachings and influence has held sway in most countries if the world.
It is his teachings that are governing countries and his name is held in high esteem.
The man whose teachings have influenced one quarter of the world his Muhammad(Peace and blessing be upon him)

Without any doubt.

Read the statements of unbiased non Muslims intellectuals say about Muhammad.


Michael H. Hart (1932- ) Professor of astronomy, physics and the history of science.

q "My choice of Muhammad to lead the list of the world's most influential persons may surprise some readers and may be questioned by others, but he was the only man in history who was supremely successful on both the religious and secular level." [ The 100: A Ranking Of The Most Influential Persons In History , New York, 1978, p. 33]


William Montgomery Watt (1909- ) Professor (Emeritus) of Arabic and Islamic Studies at the University of Edinburgh.
q "His readiness to undergo persecutions for his beliefs, the high moral character of the men who believed in him and looked up to him as leader, and the greatness of his ultimate achievement - all argue his fundamental integrity. To suppose Muhammad an impostor raises more problems than it solves. Moreover, none of the great figures of history is so poorly appreciated in the West as Muhammad." [ Mohammad At Mecca , Oxford, 1953, p. 52]


Alphonse de Lamartine (1790-1869) French poet and statesman.
q "Philosopher, orator, apostle, legislator, warrior, conqueror of ideas, restorer of rational dogmas, of a cult without images; the founder of twenty terrestrial empires and of one spiritual empire, that is Muhammad. As regards all standards by which human greatness may be measured, we may well ask, is there any man greater than he?"[Translated from Histoire De La Turquie , Paris, 1854, vol. II, pp. 276-277]


Reverend Bosworth Smith (1794-1884) Late Fellow of Trinity College, Oxford.
q "… he was Caesar and Pope in one; but he was Pope without the Pope's pretensions, and Caesar without the legions of Caesar. Without a standing army, without a bodyguard, without a palace, without a fixed revenue, if ever any man had the right to say that he ruled by a right Divine, it was Mohammed; for he had all the power without its instruments and without its supports." Mohammed and Mohammedanism, London, 1874, p. 235]


Mohandas KaramchandGandhi
(1869-1948) Indian thinker, statesman, and nationalist leader.
q "....I became more than ever convinced that it was not the sword that won a place for Islam in those days in the scheme of life. It was the rigid simplicity, the utter self-effacement of the prophet, the scrupulous regard for his pledges, his intense devotion to his friends and followers, his intrepidity, his fearlessness, his absolute trust in God and in his own mission. These, and not the sword carried everything before them and surmounted every trouble." [ Young India (periodical), 1928, Volume X]

Edward Gibbon (1737-1794)
Considered the greatest British historian of his time.
q "The greatest success of Mohammad's life was effected by sheer moral force without the stroke of a sword."
[ History Of The Saracen Empire, London, 1870]

John William Draper (1811-1882) American scientist, philosopher, and historian.
q "Four years after the death of Justinian, A.D. 569, was born at Mecca, in Arabia the man who, of all men exercised the greatest influence upon the human race . . . Mohammed." [A History of the Intellectual Development of Europe , London, 1875, vol.1, pp. 329-330]


David George Hogarth (1862-1927) English archaeologist, author, and keeper of the Ashmolean Museum, Oxford.
q “Serious or trivial, his daily behaviour has instituted a canon which millions observe this day with conscious mimicry. No one regarded by any section of the human race as Perfect Man has been imitated so minutely. The conduct of the Founder of Christianity has not so governed the ordinary life of His followers. Moreover, no Founder of a religion has been left on so solitary an eminence as the Muslim Apostle.”
[ Arabia , Oxford, 1922, p. 52]


Washington Irving (1783-1859) Well-known as the “first American man of letters".
q “He was sober and abstemious in his diet, and a rigorous observer of fasts. He indulged in no magnificence of apparel, the ostentation of a petty mind; neither was his simplicity in dress affected, but the result of a real disregard to distinction from so trivial a source ... In his private dealings he was just. He treated friends and strangers, the rich and poor, the powerful and the weak, with equity, and was beloved by the common people for the affability with which he received them, and listened to their complaints ... His military triumphs awakened no pride nor vain glory, as they would have done had they been effected for selfish purposes. In the time of his greatest power he maintained the same simplicity of manners and appearance as in the days of his adversity. So far from affecting regal state, he was displeased if, on entering a room, any unusual testimonial of respect were shown to him." [Life of Mahomet , London, 1889, pp. 192-3, 199]


Annie Besant (1847-1933) British theosophist and nationalist leader in India. President of the Indian National Congress in 1917.
q "It is impossible for anyone who studies the life and character of the great Prophet of Arabia, who knows how he taught and how he lived, to feel anything but reverence for that mighty Prophet, one of the great messengers of the Supreme. And although in what I put to you I shall say many things which may be familiar to many, yet I myself feel whenever I re-read them, a new way of admiration, a new sense of reverence for that mighty Arabian teacher." [ The Life And Teachings Of Muhammad , Madras, 1932, p. 4]


Edward Gibbon (1737-1794) Considered the greatest British historian of his time.
q "His (i.e., Muhammad's) memory was capacious and retentive, his wit easy and social, his imagination sublime, his judgment clear, rapid and decisive. He possessed the courage of both thought and action."[ History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, London, 1838, vol.5, p.335]
Mr man, here is the poll from the public. See your Muhammad here and remember that Jesus is the Lord and always number one. https://m.ranker.com/crowdranked-list/the-most-influential-people-of-all-time?utm_expid=16418821-416.erIinVKzTy2CCIr0DmvMBg.0

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Re: 10 Most Influential People Of All Time by IbnAbdullah1(m): 9:42am On Aug 15, 2018
brainhgeek:


Oh, he is only influential amongst terrorists. Only you have never seen but the entire world have seen and known that Jesus is more influential than anyone on that list. Even after two thousand years, he still moves stuffs. Mohammed came a thousand years after Jesus and can still not erase no meet up with His (Jesus') impact and followership.
Wake up abeg. I even think people like Hitler should be on that list.
I am sure Constantine and Martin Luther would contest with Mohammed if the list is reviewed.


Hmmmm... I can't believe this.

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Re: 10 Most Influential People Of All Time by Viicfuntop(f): 9:48am On Aug 15, 2018
IbnAbdullah1:


It is really amazing how you think you know something only to reveal your ignorance on a grand scale.
Do you know the reason why the name of Jesus and Moses(peace be up on them both) were mentioned in the Qur'aan?
Do you know that a chapter is named after the mother if Jesus Mary(Mariam).
If we were to play the name mentioning card,do you know the name of Jesus is less mentioned compared to that of the Devil(Iblis,Shaytaan).

Christians need to start educating themselves lest they shoot themselves in the foot arguing about what they have zero knowledge about.


You think I care about Muhammad or the quoran. He is greater to you but not to me and other Christians or other religions. This isn’t a fight. I just replied a guy who thinks his prophet is greater because he is a Muslim. It’s only fair to say Jesus is greater to me. I bet the Hindus think lord ram is greater. Please don’t stress me this morning. Muhammad is great to you, that’s fine. Are you happy, now

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Re: 10 Most Influential People Of All Time by KBDOT(m): 9:59am On Aug 15, 2018
[quote author= post=70287164]What is Our Lord and Saviour ''JESUS CHRIST" doing on such list with his creations?!
Number one on the list created ALL on the list!

Na real wa!
Your opinion tho!

*singing* : You be GOD, you no be man........ o o o o. Sing till fade
[b]Chukwukadibia![/
Re: 10 Most Influential People Of All Time by IbnAbdullah1(m): 9:59am On Aug 15, 2018
MrSensor:
Mr man, here is the poll from the public. See your Muhammad here and remember that Jesus is the Lord and always number one. https://m.ranker.com/crowdranked-list/the-most-influential-people-of-all-time?utm_expid=16418821-416.erIinVKzTy2CCIr0DmvMBg.0

This is the same problem I have with internet generated data.
What about those who don't have access to internet facilities or even to this website?
These persons named above Muhammad (peace be up on him)are no doubt known. We are talking about influence in character and ideology.
In the world today we all know that Muslims don't condone fornication, imbibe alcohol,interest ,neglecting the five daily prayer, worship idols and all other acts which was clearly the influence and teachings of Muhammad (peace be upon him).

The individualswho praised Muhammad(peace be upon him) above any other name are not Muslims neither did the Arabs bribed them .They came to their various conclusions out of their own volition.

Using a website were only a limited number of persons out of the billions of individuals using the internet to come to such conclusion is not only shallow but lack the credibility of a well researched material in what is visible to all.

Go to the interior villages of this world or go back to pre-internet times you will see the real oga in charge.

All these spurious claims can only lift a fly were ignoramus abound like the ones on Nairaland who thinks elections are won by the number of likes one is able to garner.

Try something else buddy, because this your claim won't sell.

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Re: 10 Most Influential People Of All Time by Lazyreporta(m): 10:06am On Aug 15, 2018
IbnAbdullah1:



Popularity is different from influence.
One maybe popular but not influential.
Do you know how many leaders and presidents are taking after the teachings and to some extent the life style of Muhammad( peace be upon him) since time immemorial?

Tell me one person that has influence humanity that objectively.
Just one.

Jesus!!!

What's influence?
Again, can you really be popular and not influence people in a way?
I even agree more on being influential yet less popular.

Jesus is both; influential and popular

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Re: 10 Most Influential People Of All Time by IbnAbdullah1(m): 10:07am On Aug 15, 2018
Viicfuntop:



You think I care about Muhammad or the quoran. He is greater to you but not to me and other Christians or other religions. This isn’t a fight. I just replied a guy who thinks his prophet is greater because he is a Muslim. It’s only fair to say Jesus is greater to me. I bet the Hindus think lord ram is greater. Please don’t stress me this morning. Muhammad is great to you, that’s fine. Are you happy, now


Madam no vex.
Muhammad(peace be upon me) is greater to me same way Micheal H hart said, same with Jules Masserman in Jewish psychologist, George Bernard Shaw British playwright and other unbiased Christian and Jewish scholars say.
We are speaking objectively not through emotions or blind love.

I am not fighting you madam, I am only correcting a misconception. Sorry ma, If I sounded out of place. It is just my passion for being objective that is what is driving me.
Re: 10 Most Influential People Of All Time by babajeje123(m): 10:12am On Aug 15, 2018
Lazyreporta:


Jesus!!!

What's influence?
Again, can you really be popular and not influence people in a way?
I even agree more on being influential yet less popular.

Jesus is both; influential and popular
Stop arguing with him, please. It is audible to the deaf and glaring to the blind that Christ Jesus rules and reigns over them all.

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Re: 10 Most Influential People Of All Time by zyzxx(m): 10:15am On Aug 15, 2018
Jesus always number 1

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Re: 10 Most Influential People Of All Time by brainhgeek(m): 10:17am On Aug 15, 2018
FiftyFifty:


Op, ur monica says it all: Lazyreporta. Lol... Nigerian Youth are lazy, intellectually at least. I challenged everyone to read Michael H. Hart's "A Ranking of 100 Most Influential Persons in History." Prof. Hart, an American Jew, an intellectual, who is highly respected globally placed Muhammad as number one with tons & tons of reasons. Infact, according to him, St. Paul played more role in shaping & spreading Christianity than Jesus. Anyone can check the book and see.

I have seen Muslims quote this passage hundreds of times. Are you guys always reading the same journal and quoting the same mind? Do you guys have self-reasoning right at all? your actions must not always be somebody else's quotations otherwise, I wonder if there is a connection between intelligence and religion

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Re: 10 Most Influential People Of All Time by MrSensor(m): 10:18am On Aug 15, 2018
IbnAbdullah1:


This is the same problem I have with internet generated data.
What about those who don't have access to internet facilities or even to this website?
These persons named above Muhammad (peace be up on him)are no doubt known. We are talking about influence in character and ideology.
In the world today we all know that Muslims don't condone fornication, imbibe alcohol,interest ,neglecting the five daily prayer, worship idols and all other acts which was clearly the influence and teachings of Muhammad (peace be upon him).

The individualswho praised Muhammad(peace be upon him) above any other name are not Muslims neither did the Arabs bribed them .They came to their various conclusions out of their own volition.

Using a website were only a limited number of persons out of the billions of individuals using the internet to come to such conclusion is not only shallow but lack the credibility of a well researched material in what is visible to all.

Go to the interior villages of this world or go back to pre-internet times you will see the real oga in charge.

All these spurious claims can only lift a fly were ignoramus abound like the ones on Nairaland who thinks elections are won by the number of likes one is able to garner.

Try something else buddy, because this your claim won't sell.
read your Quran and Our Lord and Savior is mentioned there. read the Bible your Muhammad is not mentioned. Brain-washed is the problems. Its still early for you to repent. Bye

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Re: 10 Most Influential People Of All Time by Viicfuntop(f): 10:21am On Aug 15, 2018
IbnAbdullah1:



Madam no vex.
Muhammad(peace be upon me) is greater to me same way Micheal H hart said, same with Jules Masserman in Jewish psychologist, George Bernard Shaw British playwright and other unbiased Christian and Jewish scholars say.
We are speaking objectively not through emotions or blind love.

I am not fighting you madam, I am only correcting a misconception. Sorry ma, If I sounded out of place. It is just my passion for being objective that is what is driving me.


I am also sorry that I was insensitive. It felt like a war between the Christians and Muslims. Sorry
Re: 10 Most Influential People Of All Time by IbnAbdullah1(m): 10:30am On Aug 15, 2018
Lazyreporta:


Jesus!!!

What's influence?
Again, can you really be popular and not influence people in a way?
I even agree more on being influential yet less popular.

Jesus is both; influential and popular


Let's compare the teachings of Jesus and that of Muhammad (peace be up on them both) and see who amongst then as really influenced humanity, though we Muslims hold that they brought the same primary message of worshipping One God and following their way of worship.

During Jesus life time we know from biblical reports that he did the following:

Believing God sent him (read John 5:30)

He believed he was a messenger of God(but you call him God)

He did not do any miracle by himself (You will be surprised, even the resurrection of Lazarus proved that he did not do any miracle by himself)

He never eat pig.

He never built a church where he collects all forms of tithes and sowing of seeds.

He never did songs of praises before or after preaching with choir masters and mistresses (which you people do in the name of God)

He never asked for tithes from the congregation whether poor or not well to do.

He never shook hands with women (which you people do in the name of God looks at the heart)

He wore long flowing clothes( like we Muslims do wearing the kaftan or jalaabia)

He kept his beard (You shave yours, which most pastors do)


The teachings of Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) are so numerous that I will cite a few well known ones.

Worshipped one God(which we do)

praying five times daily( which you know us for)

he is messenger of God(which we all believe)

Warned against fornication and adultery (which you all know us for)

Kept his beard(which some Muslims do, but those who don't do it are not really committed) .

Prohibited intoxicants for his followers (which you know us for, but some Muslims still do it out of imitation of you people or weak faith)

He encouraged marriage(which you know us for,one can marry up to four wives)

He warned against shaking the opposite sex(some Muslims do while other Muslims do not do it, but with some level of shame) .


And bring all your Christain bethren together and the Muslims and compare them and come back to tell me the lies you have being spewing.

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Re: 10 Most Influential People Of All Time by IbnAbdullah1(m): 10:38am On Aug 15, 2018
MrSensor:
read your Quran and Our Lord and Savior is mentioned there. read the Bible your Muhammad is not mentioned. Brain-washed is the problems. Its still early for you to repent. Bye

if mentioning of names is the bases for ranking somebody higher than the other using the Qur'aan do you know Pharaoh was mentioned more than Jesus Christ (peace be upon him) in the Qur'aan?

See, let's cut this crap and say things the way they are.
I believe in Jesus whole heatedly as the messenger and prophet of His Lord who sent him. I do not believe he (Jesus) is God nor my personal saviour .You better follow his way by becoming a Muslim whom the Comforter(Muhammad ,peace and blessings be upon him) has came to complete the message as the Last and final messenger of God almighty.

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Re: 10 Most Influential People Of All Time by Lazyreporta(m): 10:49am On Aug 15, 2018
IbnAbdullah1:


These 6 things Muslim believe about Jesus
Let's compare the teachings of Jesus and that of Muhammad (peace be up on them both) and see who amongst then as really influenced humanity, though we Muslims hold that they brought the same primary message of worshipping One God and following their way of worship.

During Jesus life time we know from biblical reports that he did the following:

Believing God sent him (read John 5:30)

He believed he was a messenger of God(but you call him God)

He did not do any miracle by himself (You will be surprised, even the resurrection of Lazarus proved that he did not do any miracle by himself)

He never eat pig.

He never built a church where he collects all forms of tithes and sowing of seeds.

He never did songs of praises before or after preaching with choir masters and mistresses (which you people do in the name of God)

He never asked for tithes from the congregation whether poor or not well to do.

He never shook hands with women (which you people do in the name of God looks at the heart)

He wore long flowing clothes( like we Muslims do wearing the kaftan or jalaabia)

He kept his beard (You shave yours, which most pastors do)


The teachings of Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) are so numerous that I will cite a few well known ones.

Worshipped one God(which we do)

praying five times daily( which you know us for)

he is messenger of God(which we all believe)

Warned against fornication and adultery (which you all know us for)

Kept his beard(which some Muslims do, but those who don't do it are not really committed) .

Prohibited intoxicants for his followers (which you know us for, but some Muslims still do it out of imitation of you people or weak faith)

He encouraged marriage(which you know us for,one can marry up to four wives)

He warned against shaking the opposite sex(some Muslims do while other Muslims do not do it, but with some level of shame) .


And bring all your Christain bethren together and the Muslims and compare them and come back to tell me the lies you have being spewing.



I don't really understand what you're saying though but the list was by voting.
You can take it to the street to see who is more influential.

Of every list available online atleast, 70% of them put Jesus ahead, while some put Micheal Jackson ahead.

Now, there are more Christains in the world than any other religion.

Meaning if not all, atleast 80% of them believes in His teaching and also see Him as the only way to Heaven.
To see how influential He is, He said in the bible that " He is the way, the truth and the life". Do you know what that means? Now, let's say for the sake of none Muslims and Christians, if that statement is "Correct" and you believe there's a God, and There's Heaven, then Jesus is the greatest of all.
Because you need Him to make it to heaven.
In His word, He said " no one can see the Father except through Him".

That's according to the bible.

Now, let's see what Muhammed says in the quran sir.. To show He is more influential than Jesus.. Thanks.

The only thing I always say about Islam is that, if islam is the true way to heaven, then if not all, 90% of Muslims will make heaven.
I can't say the same for Christian but it doesn't mean Jesus is less influential.
Jesus has more followers generally, bro, that Put Him on the 1 spot.

If this was based on just popularity, will even still say the same thing?

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Re: 10 Most Influential People Of All Time by Lazyreporta(m): 10:55am On Aug 15, 2018
IbnAbdullah1:


if mentioning of names is the bases for ranking somebody higher than the other using the Qur'aan do you know Pharaoh was mentioned more than Jesus Christ (peace be upon him) in the Qur'aan?

See, let's cut this crap and say things the way they are.
I believe in Jesus whole heatedly as the messenger and prophet of His Lord who sent him. I do not believe he (Jesus) is God nor my personal saviour .You better follow his way by becoming a Muslim whom the Comforter(Muhammad ,peace and blessings be upon him) has came to complete the message as the Last and final messenger of God almighty.

What did the quran say about Jesus?
Pls

These 6 things Muslim believe about Jesus
Re: 10 Most Influential People Of All Time by IbnAbdullah1(m): 11:06am On Aug 15, 2018
Lazyreporta:


What did the quran say about Jesus?
Pls


The Qur'aan cleared the misconception held about him in many verses.

Chief of which is that Jesus is not the son of God.
He was born without any male intervention.
He spoke to the people from the cradle as an infant defending his mother.
God gave him the power to perform miracles of quickening the dead, healing those born blind and the lepers and telling people what they had in their house of food.
He was not crucified or killed on the cross.
He is a messenger and a prophet of God sent to the children of Israel.
He commanded his people to worship one God (which is greatest of commandment in the bible which he said was the key to Salvation in the bible. Read Mark 12:28-30)
He prophesied the coming Prophet Muhammad(peace be upon him)

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Re: 10 Most Influential People Of All Time by Lazyreporta(m): 11:11am On Aug 15, 2018
IbnAbdullah1:



The Qur'aan cleared the misconception held about him in many verses.

Chief of which is that Jesus is not the son of God.
He was born without any male intervention.
He spoke to the people from the cradle as an infant defending his mother.
God gave him the power to perform miracles of quickening the dead, healing those born blind and the lepers and telling people what they had in their house of food.
He was not crucified or killed on the cross.
He is a messenger and a prophet of God sent to the children of Israel.
He commanded his people to worship one God (which is greatest of commandment in the bible which he said was the key to Salvation in the bible. Read Mark 12:28-30)
He prophesied the coming Prophet Muhammad(peace be upon him)

Mathew 3 vs 16-17 that's bible on why we call Him Son of God.

With what you have said now, is He less influential to Muhammed?
Your quran actually says "He is coming back to defeat the devil, right?
grin

I also noticed you place the quran higher than the bible.
Because you just said " quran cleared the misconceptions about Him.
So I should take the quran and neglect my own faith?
We are comparing both Holy books.. What they both say about about Jesus and Muhammed.
Let's see who is more influential.

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Re: 10 Most Influential People Of All Time by Amberon1: 11:25am On Aug 15, 2018
Why are you triggered and threatening religious debate? Jesus is more famous and Mohammed and will be forever be.
jidamsel43:
What criteria did you use . I have never seen any man that is more influential than Prophet Muhammad .

op pls don't start unhealthy religion debate
Re: 10 Most Influential People Of All Time by Amberon1: 11:26am On Aug 15, 2018
Lmao....you Muslims are so pained. So Mohammed is more influential than Jesus Christ? Lmao.
centurionpapa:
Muhammad is a million times more popular, influential than anybody in that list

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Re: 10 Most Influential People Of All Time by Amberon1: 11:27am On Aug 15, 2018
Jesus is God.
Kylexy3000:


Point of correction. God created those men not Jesus.

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Re: 10 Most Influential People Of All Time by Amberon1: 11:28am On Aug 15, 2018
I think Michael Jackson was supposed to make the list too.
MRSoftapples:
I beg to differ,, i know those guys were influential because of their ideas but after JESUS CHRIST,, the next most influential persons in history will have to be Michael Jackson and Nelson Mandela..

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Re: 10 Most Influential People Of All Time by IbnAbdullah1(m): 11:51am On Aug 15, 2018
Lazyreporta:


Mathew 3 vs 16-17 that's bible on why we call Him Son of God.

With what you have said now, is He less influential to Muhammed?
Your quran actually says "He is coming back to defeat the devil, right?
grin

I also noticed you place the quran higher than the bible.
Because you just said " quran cleared the misconceptions about Him.
So I should take the quran and neglect my own faith?
We are comparing both Holy books.. What they both say about about Jesus and Muhammed.
Let's see who is more influential.



You clearly do not understand the word influential.
What you claim of him are all just one contradictions after another.
If we quote what Jesus say and what you Christians say about him you will see a clear difference of interpretation.
Jesus never claimed to be to be begotten son of God.
Even the bible shows how God had sons by the tonnes.


check these ones out from your Bible.

Genesis 6:2
that the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves, whomever they chose.

Believers As Sons Of God
Romans 8:16
The Spirit Himself testifies with our spirit that we are children of God,
Israel As Sons Of God
Jeremiah 31:20
"Is Ephraim My dear son? Is he a delightful child? Indeed, as often as I have spoken against him, I certainly still remember him; Therefore My heart yearns for him; I will surely have mercy on him," declares the LORD.

1 Chronicles 22:10
'He shall build a house for My name, and he shall be My son and I will be his father; and I will establish the throne of his kingdom over Israel forever.'

1 Chronicles 28:6
"He said to me, 'Your son Solomon is the one who shall build My house and My courts; for I have chosen him to be a son to Me, and I will be a father to him.

Job 1:6
Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came among them.

Job 2:1
Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came among them to present himself before the LORD.

Job 38:1-7
Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind and said, "Who is this that darkens counsel By words without knowledge? "Now gird up your loins like a man, And I will ask you, and you instruct Me! read more.
"Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth? Tell Me, if you have understanding, Who set its measurements? Since you know. Or who stretched the line on it? "On what were its bases sunk? Or who laid its cornerstone, When the morning stars sang together And all the sons of God shouted for joy?

Psalm 2:7
"I will surely tell of the decree of the LORD: He said to Me, 'You are My Son, Today I have begotten You.

Hosea 1:10
Yet the number of the sons of Israel Will be like the sand of the sea, Which cannot be measured or numbered; And in the place Where it is said to them, "You are not My people," It will be said to them, "You are the sons of the living God."

Matthew 5:9
"Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God.

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