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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 5:22pm On Aug 20, 2018 |
SouthernEmpres:Gbam! |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 5:44pm On Aug 20, 2018 |
Obi1kenobi: You are correct, but your analogy is very weak. The kind of autonomy which Hong Kong boasts of is greatly different from that of your afore-mentioned. Hong Kong is practically independent of Mainland China except in name and military (which I'm not sure of). Mainland chinese citizens do not have the right to free entry and exit from HK without first going through strict immigration procedures. Chinese citizenship does not qualify anyone for permanent residence within HK. This is unlike Tibet where waves of migrations of Han chinese into Tibet have rendered native Tibetans a minority within their own so called 'Autonomous region'. The communist party of China is not allowed in HK politics. There is no single form of judiciary or legislative bond binding Mainland China and HK. They practically function as independent countries unlike the examples of Autonomous provinces within countries you mentioned above! No, my friend. There is absolute squat that Taiwanese "envy" about China. They certainly fear China's expansionist agenda, but they don't give a shiit about China. It's the reverse instead: China are obsessed with Taiwan when Taiwan has long moved on from historical events. This is why they fear the threat of China. Envying a country because of its geopolitical power is just a vanity trip driven by nationalism. Taiwanese have no reason to envy China because smaller nations aren't driven by nationalistic egos. It's the Chinas and Russias and Irans and Nigerias of the world who are obsessed with such vanities. Pro-Beijing political groups have 42/70 legislatve council seats and 327/458 district council seats in Hong Kong. That's an asss-whooping majority. Why would the people of HK favour pro-Beijing parties in a majority if they strongly want to dissociate from Mainland China? China is not obsessed with Taiwan in the sense that you put it. China just doesn't want Taiwan to be a puppet and 'parking lot' of the west, with which the west can easily penetrate or intimidate China. Do you know how much pride many Europeans take in the joint EU identity? Why do many South Koreans act positively hypertensive over a thought of unity with the North in spite of how seemingly backwards the north is to them? Why are East Africans working on a united East african federation? There have been conceptions of a united Arab republic, just that the Arabs of today have given up on that cos they know it would hardly work. Do not deceive yourself that people of smaller ethnicities or nationalities would not wish they were part of a bigger and more influential identity. They just wouldn't wish for a bigger identity with a union that opposes their core values, ways and fairness of existence. As bitter as the division of Yugoslavians was, there are still many pro-unity Serbs, Bosnians and Croats today On the premise that I was born, raised and lived here my whole life to see for myself the deep rot in every sector. Anyone who has done business in this country can attest to the bureaucratic maze he has to navigate in bribes and kickbacks. A few months ago, I reported a case of impersonation and fraud to the police, and despite parting with N50,000 just to even open the case at their Festac division office, there was no traction at all as the clowns told me I have to sponsor officers on a trip to Delta to nab the perpetrator that they identified after a petition to MTN who tracked the fraudster - which would have set me back another N200k. My brother and I could write an entire book on our experiences with deep malfeasance in the Nigerian police alone. Infact, because of his own experience with the police in a scam case that he is still pursuing today after 8 years and hundreds of thousands spent seeking justice, he advised me not to open my case at the police, but I ignored him and regretted it. This is just the police alone. This point of yours reeks of utter myopia. Anyone reading through this will see how clearly Obaaderemi has made his point here while you keep regurgitating your pointless opinion. No matter how wicked one's mother is to him, He can't conclude that she is the most wicked mother in the world cos there would always be a mother somewhere who has done something more wicked. Also, definition of wickedness could be objective. You haven't experienced life in all other countries of the world nor in Africa or even west Africa alone. So, you have no basis on claiming Nigeria is the most corrupt country in Africa or anywhere. The best we can do is rely on statistics and even those statistics do not cite Nigeria as the most corrupt country. Period. I know Nigeria is in a terrible state, but so are most African countries and even 3rd world countries at large. The other day, I was watching some news of Fillipino prisoners. Gosh! Dozens of prisoners were stuffed in a metal cage (this was not even a room) and they have been awaiting trial for months locked in there. Regularly, I see news, images and reports from other 3rd world countries (many who rank higher than Nigeria on income, human index and all manners of transparency reports), but these images send chills down my spines. I am from northern Nigeria and I can say I've witnessed the highest form of 'Nigerian poverty and sufferings' first hand, but many atimes, it's not as bad as what I see from other countries that are ranked ahead of Nigeria. I was formerly the type who thought many other African countries or 3rd world countries were far better than Nigeria. My opinion largely changed over the years as I have come to the conclusion that no 3rd world country (especially African country) is worth me considering far better than Nigeria especially to the extent I wish to trade my Nigerian citizenship for. I rather aspire to be among those who fix the terrible state of Nigeria and make it what I wish it becomes. Every progress you see in any country was brought about by the sweat and blood of the predecessors of the inhabitants of the country. I rather make Nigeria better for my offsprings or I die trying. 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:38pm On Aug 20, 2018 |
[quote author=Nowenuse post=70455646] You are correct, but your analogy is very weak. The kind of autonomy which Hong Kong boasts of is greatly different from that of your afore-mentioned. Hong Kong is practically independent of Mainland China except in name and military (which I'm not sure of). Mainland chinese citizens do not have the right to free entry and exit from HK without first going through strict immigration procedures. Chinese citizenship does not qualify anyone for permanent residence within HK. This is unlike Tibet where waves of migrations of Han chinese into Tibet have rendered native Tibetans a minority within their own so called 'Autonomous region'. The communist party of China is not allowed in HK politics. There is no single form of judiciary or legislative bond binding Mainland China and HK. They practically function as independent countries unlike the examples of Autonomous provinces within countries you mentioned above! Pro-Beijing political groups have 42/70 legislatve council seats and 327/458 district council seats in Hong Kong. That's an asss-whooping majority. Why would the people of HK favour pro-Beijing parties in a majority if they strongly want to dissociate from Mainland China? China is not obsessed with Taiwan in the sense that you put it. China just doesn't want Taiwan to be a puppet and 'parking lot' of the west, with which the west can easily penetrate or intimidate China. Do you know how much pride many Europeans take in the joint EU identity? Why do many South Koreans act positively hypertensive over a thought of unity with the North in spite of how seemingly backwards the north is to them? Why are East Africans working on a united East african federation? There have been conceptions of a united Arab republic, just that the Arabs of today have given up on that cos they know it would hardly work. Do not deceive yourself that people of smaller ethnicities or nationalities would not wish they were part of a bigger and more influential identity. They just wouldn't wish for a bigger identity with a union that opposes their core values, ways and fairness of existence. As bitter as the division of Yugoslavians was, there are still many pro-unity Serbs, Bosnians and Croats today This point of yours reeks of utter myopia. Anyone reading through this will see how clearly Obaaderemi has made his point here while you keep regurgitating your pointless opinion. No matter how wicked one's mother is to him, He can't conclude that she is the most wicked mother in the world cos there would always be a mother somewhere who has done something more wicked. Also, definition of wickedness could be objective. You haven't experienced life in all other countries of the world nor in Africa or even west Africa alone. So, you have no basis on claiming Nigeria is the most corrupt country in Africa or anywhere. The best we can do is rely on statistics and even those statistics do not cite Nigeria as the most corrupt country. Period. I know Nigeria is in a terrible state, but so are most African countries and even 3rd world countries at large. The other day, I was watching some news of Fillipino prisoners. Gosh! Dozens of prisoners were stuffed in a metal cage (this was not even a room) and they have been awaiting trial for months locked in there. Regularly, I see news, images and reports from other 3rd world countries (many who rank higher than Nigeria on income, human index and all manners of transparency reports), but these images send chills down my spines. I am from northern Nigeria and I can say I've witnessed the highest form of 'Nigerian poverty and sufferings' first hand, but many atimes, it's not as bad as what I see from other countries that are ranked ahead of Nigeria. I was formerly the type who thought many other African countries or 3rd world countries were far better than Nigeria. My opinion largely changed over the years as I have come to the conclusion that no 3rd world country (especially African country) is worth me considering far better than Nigeria especially to the extent I wish to trade my Nigerian citizenship for. I rather aspire to be among those who fix the terrible state of Nigeria and make it what I wish it becomes. Every progress you see in any country was brought about by the sweat and blood of the predecessors of the inhabitants of the country. I rather make Nigeria better for my offsprings or I do ______________________________________________________ Keep on fully yourself. Nigeria is the most corrupt country in the world. Most of its citizens are criminals. I have been to 16 african countries twelve countries out of africa. Most of the countries in africa which are poor like mozambique are developing very fast on the other hand we are moving backwards at alarming rate look at manufacturing year-on-year for the past 12 years we are losing are factoring companies at a rate of 17% pra year. Two weeks ago read the sunday punch where the head of manufacturing council of nigeria said . Nigeria is not a top manufacturing destination in africa. 1 Like
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jidesam01: 6:45pm On Aug 20, 2018 |
sufferNsmiling:are you kidding me??.. Which Lagos?? Cos you can hardly find people begging on the streets of Lagos. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 7:32pm On Aug 20, 2018 |
kikuyu1: ![]() Why don't you let the shipping line take off before you start dancing?And I can see it still has to be done in partnership with a foreign company, MSC. Another thing from your post led me to discover why your e onomy is just $50bn despite having busy ports: ![]() “By importing CIF and exporting FOB,The Little Indian talking there is Joseph Juma, a powerful man in Little India's shipping sector. And yet you handed the new company over to MSC, a foreign company where Kenyatta probably has ties. You talk about Ethiopian birr being overvalued, are you aware of the fact that your shilling is at least 20% overvalued and hurting your economy? And your $40bn banking total assets is still too small to power your economy to the next level. Mind you,Nigeria's own too is small at $100bn. But I still find it funny how you have to convert[b]everything[/b] to per capita before you can have any joy. South Africa has about the same population as you but they do so well they don't need to convert to per capita. Nor does Egypt have to before they beat bigger countries. They are giants in their own ways. But a $50bn economy? Excuse me! I am still waiting for you to say something about how your crushing debt liability would not burst your bubble of an economy. With that debt burden, your poor manufacturing, lack of natural resources and world record beating corruption--- boy, Little India is going nowhere. 2 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jaycent(m): 7:33pm On Aug 20, 2018 |
Jidesam01:Lol me self come they wonder oo. Seriously that kid is not normal. 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 7:36pm On Aug 20, 2018 |
Jidesam01:The idiot was probably locked up in prison. He just got his release and the first place he came to is nairaland. Goat claiming to be coming from outside Nigeria. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jaycent(m): 7:47pm On Aug 20, 2018 |
obaaderemi:Hahahahaha that boy has suffer alot. ![]() 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:33pm On Aug 20, 2018 |
NairobiWalker: Surely,to make matters worse they keep on struggling to post old stats here. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:41pm On Aug 20, 2018 |
SouthernEmpres: TonyeBarcanista is your fellow stupid Nigerian who wrote all this nonsense. Don't be brainwashed with Kenyans here.. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by YAHREIGNS: 8:42pm On Aug 20, 2018 |
sufferNsmiling:Oh my!!! ![]() |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NigeriaIsDoomed: 9:30pm On Aug 20, 2018 |
Yobeezy:illiterate and jobless aggressive lazy idiotic pigs of Kibera slum, u don chop? Starved stinky little indian e fit be your useless hungry Kenyan pig wey post that nonsense |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Daejoyoung: 9:32pm On Aug 20, 2018 |
sufferNsmiling:Codein is not good for your brain, please limit your use of substances, l have never seen beggars on the street in Lagos or around the airport nor have l experienced what you described from all my trips to Lagos. I'm sure you are taking something, this is why you see new events when you dream and then you wake up to narrate your dream on Nairaland. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:38pm On Aug 20, 2018 |
NigeriaIsDoomed: You just look stupid with these trash that you've typed. I know it has hurt you. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NigeriaIsDoomed: 9:58pm On Aug 20, 2018 |
illiterate and jobless aggressive lazy idiotic pig of Kibera slum go bathe u dey smell like goat Yobeezy: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NigeriaIsDoomed: 10:06pm On Aug 20, 2018 |
Where are those illiterate and jobless aggressive lazy idiotic pigs of Kibera slum? Crawl out from that your useless smelling kibera slum and cingregate here make ah panel beat sense put for that una empty and hungry brains. I get una time now cus moro na public holiday for naija, make ah carry una while away time ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NigeriaIsDoomed: 10:08pm On Aug 20, 2018 |
Those stewpid hungry kibera slum dwellers don run, maybe dem dey go hustle for food. Hungry and starved things dey come form human beings here. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:14pm On Aug 20, 2018 |
Jidesam01: You are a stupid fool lagos is the 12 worst city in africa to live in. Two out of three people in lagos live in slums. Lagos is full of beggars up and down the place. Do not come here and stats fully yourself. See how people are running away from lagos to accra and joburg to sit at the side of the road and do nothing. See the snapshots of lagos below. 1 Like
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 10:32pm On Aug 20, 2018 |
NigeriaIsDoomed: We are waiting for the Tanzanians. We are only ignoring your illiterate self. Other than that, it would be best not to type like a three year old. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NigeriaIsDoomed: 10:33pm On Aug 20, 2018 |
sufferNsmiling:u this idiotic ipob pig! Na u be the reason una no go get biafra. Coward! Ah don tell u if u be human make ah give u address make u come blabb rubbish if u no go rot for jail. Remember wetin Buhari do to that ur thin god Nnamdi Kanu, ur own go worse pass that. I dey pity una people wey go cry wen u enter prison. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NigeriaIsDoomed: 10:34pm On Aug 20, 2018 |
gallivant:illiterate and jobless aggressive lazy idiotic pig of Kibera slum, have you eaten? I get your time today cus moro and nxt na public holiday for naija. Dey madness wey dey worry u go run leave u by the time I change am for you here. Go ask your mama if she sleep with mad man before she born you. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:36pm On Aug 20, 2018 |
Cheap on line and fully yourself. That lagos does not have beggars. Snapshot below. 1 Like
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 10:39pm On Aug 20, 2018 |
Daejoyoung: I don't think there is any city of the world without street beggars. When Dangotelanders claim Lagos is devoid of the the latter, I presume they are on manoeuvres. But that is just me. ![]() |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 10:40pm On Aug 20, 2018 |
NigeriaIsDoomed: What are you saying my friend? ![]() |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 10:41pm On Aug 20, 2018 |
sufferNsmiling: GBAM! ![]() |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:42pm On Aug 20, 2018 |
NigeriaIsDoomed: I have told you many times I am not igbo |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NigeriaIsDoomed: 10:44pm On Aug 20, 2018 |
gallivant:you this illiterate and jobless aggressive lazy idiotic pig of Kibera slum.u no go go baff? U don chop food today? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NigeriaIsDoomed: 10:45pm On Aug 20, 2018 |
sufferNsmiling:idiotic ipob pig u don dey deny your tribe? Who do u this kind thing u this aggressive child of hate.coman go brush your dirty mouth ![]() |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:45pm On Aug 20, 2018 |
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NigeriaIsDoomed: 10:47pm On Aug 20, 2018 |
gallivant:idiotic lazy illiterate pig get lost |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:49pm On Aug 20, 2018 |
Daejoyoung: What are you saying my friend? The Billgates and Zuckerbergs of this world have none of that "most educated' tag bs. Thats for book slaves. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NigeriaIsDoomed: 10:49pm On Aug 20, 2018 |
illiterate and jobless aggressive lazy idiotic pigs of Kibera slum, i go tame una madness for here.ah nefa finish with you goats. |
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