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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:59pm On Aug 20, 2018 |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Obi1kenobi(m): 12:04am On Aug 21, 2018 |
obaaderemi: Well clearly, it meant a lot to you. I have never given it a thought. I'm not sure what your point is and who you thought you "dealt" with. I stated a fact that 4icu and Webometric rankings have little credibility. Times Higher Education and QS university rankings are the credible rankings with parameters that matter in determining the quality of education at an institution. 4icu and Webometric rankings are regularly gamed by low-ranked institutions. The fact remains that in Times Higher Education rankings, only one institution from Kenya and Nigeria were ranked, tied at the same spot for last year. And University of Nairobi has done better in previous rankings. I don't really care to rehash an old argument because of your gloating, so let's stick to what is relevant.
That's not the point, so stop moving the goal posts. Different political systems in different countries accord varying levels of autonomy to different states, regions, confederations etc within the sovereign nation. I haven't in any place stated that Hong Kong is exactly identical to Scotland or Palestinian territories or wherever. You were the one who said autonomy and independence are the same thing and I called bullshiit on the claim. Hong Kong is not a sovereign nation, so it is not independent at all. It retains its autonomy at the pleasure of the Chinese government who can revoke it if they please. And there are a lot more Chinese nationals in Taiwan than there are Taiwanese nationals in China, despite Taiwan having a far more restrictive immigration policy towards Chinese people so I'm not sure what your point is. Read a few accounts of Chinese people here about the hostility of Taiwan towards Chinese immigrants: https://www.quora.com/Why-is-democratic-Taiwan-not-a-popular-country-for-Chinese-migrants-would-be-to-emigrate-despite-similar-culture-and-language China is a market of over a billion people and they are neighbors, so of course many Taiwanese businessmen go there to exploit the bigger, less developed market and make more money. Taiwanese don't care to be Chinese. That doesn't mean they are enemies of China. They are not at war, even though China are so obsessed with Taiwan that only the forceful backing of the US has stopped China invading Taiwan, and China has obstructed Taiwan being recognized as a sovereign nation at the UN and went on a crying tantrum when Trump spoke to the Taiwanese president. ![]() And no, there is no progress in Nigeria that is hard to see in other countries. Nigeria if anything is a regressing country with regressing standards of living. The only thing that has ever improved in Nigeria in my 20-something years of life is technology. Which has nothing to do with Nigeria. In the 1990's, my father had a NITEL and a Multilinks landline which made him a celebrity on my street as neighbors came to our house to make calls. A few years later, everyone was carrying GSM handsets around. In my first year in University, I was a celebrity in class cos I had a second hand, Pentium 3 Dell Inspiron and many people did assignments on my system. By my 3rd year, everyone was carrying Core2Duo HP laptops. As far as real welfare goes, poverty rate has massively increased, inflation and cost of living has far exceeded the growth in income, every doctor I know that graduates school goes abroad for greener pastures. So what "progress" are you talking about? 5 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:06am On Aug 21, 2018 |
Hbuyosh: So glad you're back ma dude! Muafrika left ![]() You forgot to mention that the reason we are investing in Tanzania is so that they contribute to our debt servicing program. 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 12:13am On Aug 21, 2018 |
TayserMahiri: Seriously, I heard this great singer was arrested by Museveni. I loved his song KYARENGA. Why should he really be arrested? What crime did he really commit? I saw the news on Aljazeera and was surprised. Was he a vocal opposition activist? 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:17am On Aug 21, 2018 |
gallivant: We gon crush them for showing up uninvited TADA! ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 12:17am On Aug 21, 2018 |
TayserMahiri: What about using common sense, it must be by government decree? ![]() 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 12:21am On Aug 21, 2018 |
TayserMahiri: Can't you see how Obi1kenobi is now smart to you when he says what you want to hear? But when he said that the Igbos were the most progressive tribe in Africa the other time, you never thought of that right? Instead you were attacking him and hurling words at him. Why can't you grow up from these deceptive characters of yours? Sometimes you Kenyans think you are smart, I hope you know that your smartness is like foolishness before Nigerians? We can never be outsmarted by other Africans so easily. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 12:29am On Aug 21, 2018 |
TayserMahiri: The Igbos (well, some part) have a culture that encourages people to make wealth before you think of getting married or having children. This culture of theirs I can't deny has made them somewhat richer on per capital than other Nigerians, but you can see the outcome here. Making money through any means necessary. In my part of Nigeria, such a person must have been married with a family. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:34am On Aug 21, 2018 |
Obi1kenobi: Your opponent has a habit of proclaiming he "Dealt with somebody" even when to the world he has been smacked on all fronts. Classic loser's tale. Actually, any time he says he 'dealt with you' just know he lost that argument. Dont let him derail your Einsteinian thought process with his bravado intros and proclamations. He has a very weak logical acumen ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:37am On Aug 21, 2018 |
Nowenuse: Man, the guy has been literally deformed by the police and security apparatus. His crime, ofcos, is that he opposes Museveni removing the age cap limit for the presidency. He is a Member of Parliament. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:39am On Aug 21, 2018 |
gallivant: Definitely. Their govt has a common sense department, which is the reason they make no sense here. Only when Magufuli declares its Common Sense Day will they make sense ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:41am On Aug 21, 2018 |
Nowenuse: The problem is your short memory. The guy who said Egbos are the smartest folks was Omanbala. Obi2Kenobi is just fine ![]() |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:47am On Aug 21, 2018 |
Nowenuse: Well, no problem with making mulla before you marry but they should cut down on the scamming and illegal ways. We will be shooting them here and they wont do shiet. Toe the line or go back where you came from! It could be that they need morals pushed down their throats. 1 Like
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Obi1kenobi(m): 12:54am On Aug 21, 2018 |
Nowenuse: This is a bit of a wasted history, geography and politics lesson. What's your point? Where have I stated that every autonomous entity has the exact same level of autonomy? Where was that ever my argument? The only thing I sought to refute was his claim that autonomy and independence were somehow the same thing. Which is wrong. That is all. Oh, and you come to my point. Hong Kong citizens only support Chinese unification as long as they retain the immense privileges of autonomy they enjoy which makes them almost a sovereign entity. China is very important to Hong Kong's economy and they need to milk the wealth of the richest Chinese who reside and run businesses in Hong Kong. The day the Chinese government look to upend the liberties of Hong Kong citizens is the day they sharply lose support. Even now, a plurality of Hong Kong youth below 25 favour complete independence from China. And yes, China are obsessed with Taiwan. Hence the Chinese government throwing a tantrum because Trump even spoke the Taiwanese leader. Taiwan just want to be left in peace. China are the ones looking to impose their will on Taiwan, which Taiwan resists.
The EU is an economic bloc. It's popularity is in its utility value to EU citizens who can get to freely trade and travel across borders. When you ask Europeans where they're from, they'd still tell you whether they are German, French, British, Italian, Spanish, Swiss, Danish, Greek etc. That is where their true pride lies: in their heritage. Nobody says, "I'm from the EU". ![]() EVerything else you're talking about is economic blocs. The most ridiculous part is the one about Yugoslavs. Those guys hated each other with a passion: they'd happily have slaughtered themselves if bigger powers didn't intervene. Croats, Albanians, Bosnians and Montenegrin absolutely despise Serbs. ![]() There is no "self-deception" in saying people from small countries are happy to be who they are. Scandinavians have far more in common than many Nigerian tribes, but they are happy to be Swedes or Norwegians or Danes or Icelandic people. They don't care to be one big country to boost their egos. Swiss people are mostly ethnic Germans, but are more than happy to be little Switzerland. Belgium is made up of ethnic Dutch and French people, but they are happy to be Belgian. jInfact, the French part, Wallonia, have many citizens who wish to form their own republic separate from the Flemish people. Tiny countries like Leichtenstein, Faroe Islands and San Marino who have smaller populations than some universities in Nigeria don't care to join anyone. You find it difficult to understand that many people aren't driven by vain nationalism, but by patriotism. Nationalism and patriotism can seem synonymous, but they are entirely different concepts.
Loool @ the emboldened. If the 13 states of the North East and North West of Nigeria were countries on its own, it'd be the poorest in the world. Bar none. I can think of a host of countries considered "3rd world" across Africa, Asia, the Middle East and Latin America that I would easily trade for if I was to be reincarnated into this world. Anyone suggesting otherwise is in deep denial. I don't see the relevance of the last paragraph. No one is arguing about what we need to do to fix the country. This is about those who wouldn't even concede how deep the problems of the country are. 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Obi1kenobi(m): 1:08am On Aug 21, 2018 |
Nowenuse: You're kidding right? ![]() 3 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 2:06am On Aug 21, 2018 |
TayserMahiri: Well said. People wonder why I don't like that fool, it's because he is an empty vessel and they make the most noise! I can't stand his B.S.! 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 2:09am On Aug 21, 2018 |
TayserMahiri: I have been waiting all day for them, they didnt show. They must be tired from last night's sleep. ![]() |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 2:43am On Aug 21, 2018 |
TayserMahiri: Good points. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 3:34am On Aug 21, 2018 |
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 3:41am On Aug 21, 2018 |
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Daejoyoung: 3:48am On Aug 21, 2018 |
gallivant:Nigerians are the most educated immigrants in the U.S. You can do your research on that. So don't come here to spew your hardworking nonsense with nothing valuable to show for it. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 3:50am On Aug 21, 2018 |
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Daejoyoung: 3:50am On Aug 21, 2018 |
TayserMahiri:So are Kenyans producing the Bill gates and Zuckerbeg's of this world? you only said Kenyans are hardworking, what kind of hardwork? in what way have the Kenyan citizens stood out? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Daejoyoung: 3:51am On Aug 21, 2018 |
gallivant:Around the airport ![]() There is no need for manoeuvres when discussing with Kenyans since you also have giant issues. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 3:53am On Aug 21, 2018 |
Daejoyoung: Kenyans, Ugandans and Rwandese...Real Muthaphuckkin G's... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJuapp9SORA |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Daejoyoung: 3:56am On Aug 21, 2018 |
sufferNsmiling:You are either a Kenyan or a wannabe biafran. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 3:57am On Aug 21, 2018 |
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Daejoyoung: 3:59am On Aug 21, 2018 |
gallivant:So you mean your pride in speaking the language of the colonial masters is how you measure education? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 4:06am On Aug 21, 2018 |
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 4:12am On Aug 21, 2018 |
Daejoyoung: Colonial or Global, Nature vs Nurture, David vs Goliath, Is Heaven Real etc... am a Realest! So, are you asking for my opinion on the English language or are you questioning the Pride of my African Heritage? Be clearer, your question is a dilettante! ![]() |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Daejoyoung: 4:29am On Aug 21, 2018 |
gallivant:The Germans and Chinese, are they mostly illiterates because they don't speak English?? Even among Germans who speak their language, not all speak it the proper way but this has never been a measure of their education, rather they stand out by their works and qualifications. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 4:30am On Aug 21, 2018 |
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