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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:16pm On Aug 21, 2018
rvp2018:
Like Nigeria you engage in bottom of the food chain cereals - where you plant 10 times the size of land we do - to produce about the same quantity. Our productivity is nearly 3 times yours. And we are transitioning from useless beans, maize and rice - to highly profitable crops. That big difference. You have 10 times Kenya arable land and all you do is grow poor quality rice, beans and maize.

You dedicate nearly half of you land to plant maize - and all you can do is mere 5M metric tonnes. We do it on very small scale and we manage easily 3.5-4.5M metric tonnes.The maize you produce are of such low quality - it fetches about 1/3 or even worse of kenyan maize -- and we can only buy to blend it with our high quality maize.


You have Africa's worst yield per hectare for nearly all cereals (maybe with exception of the beans from Kagera region).

In short all Tanzania seem to do is to expend the least energy and brain growing the most basic of stuff.


This is not the time to fight tanzania when nigeria is much worse. At least kenya and tanzania exporters of agricultural produce. Not like povertyland which just import everything.Average maize crop in nigeria is 1 metric ton.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:24pm On Aug 21, 2018
rvp2018:
You don't want us to talk about Sisal and seaweedsmiley Let talk about your dirty cheap cereals that you sell to us. Why would we continue to grow rice, beans and maize - when we can easily buy from you - and instead focus on horticulture, floricluture, tea, coffee, dairy, nuts and such very rewarding agriclutural ventures?.

When it comes to hunger and malnutrition - kindly check the stats again. And then be ashamed because in kenya it's only in ASAL north where people struggle to feed themselves...kenya is 2/3 semi-arid - while you land is 2/3 arable - and yet you're still malnourished.

If kenya had your arable land - we would be competing with the Brazils or Canadas... but you guys are too lazy and too illeterate to use thaat land. Keya's arid and semi-arid regions make up 80 percent of the country’s land area...and yet we still kick arse globally in agricluture.


If you want to see lazy people come to nigeria
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jaycent(m): 7:24pm On Aug 21, 2018
gallivant:


Why did you stop posting Abuja and Lagos?
Because the arguement is meaningless!
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:27pm On Aug 21, 2018
jaycent:
The truth is that, Nigeria is beautiful than Kenya. Take it or leave it.

Take poverty or leave poverty?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jaycent(m): 7:29pm On Aug 21, 2018
sufferNsmiling:


If you want to see lazy people come to nigeria
Because you've suffered in Nigeria that's why. That's why you name yourself sufferNsmilling Hahahahaha you never chi chonchi. grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kur17: 7:29pm On Aug 21, 2018
sufferNsmiling:


If you want to see lazy people come to nigeria
grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jaycent(m): 7:37pm On Aug 21, 2018
sufferNsmiling:


Take poverty or leave poverty?
Their is no poverty in Nigeria, everybody is feeding well. Unlike Kenya that poverty has turn them to skeleting in that backward country hehehehe. grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 7:41pm On Aug 21, 2018
Obi1kenobi:


[s]Firstly, it's a bit of a jerk move arrogating victory to yourself in an argument with delusional claims about "dealing with" or "schooling" someone. Juvenile, playground, embarrassing stuff. Perhaps, allow others do that for you based on their own appraisal of the cogency and lucidity of your points. Else, you just look desperate.[/s]
Well,I don't see that as arrogating victory to myself.And "dealing with" as I see it means I've had dealings with you on that before which I proved for all to see. grin If it angers you,sorry Sah.[/quote]

Secondly, there was never a place I claimed Hong Kong wants nothing to do with China. That was a specific claim I made about Taiwan, which is true. For Hong Kong, I specifically said the overwhelming majority of the population favor it's broad autonomy from China, while an emerging youth population favour a complete break. But I guess when you're more interested in one-upmanship, deliberately misrepresenting one's argument and arguing against the strawman you fabricated is the way to go.
Oga Obikenobi,softly softly with your lies o @the bolded. No be you talk this one below in glorious color? I am the last person to be interested in fabrication and oneupmanship. But please don't twist things here to wriggle out.
Obi1kenobi (m ):
8:33pm On Aug 18
A German has
nothing to brag about over a Norwegian or Swiss,
just because his country is bigger - neither would
any Japanese, South Korean or Taiwanese swap
their countries for China. Hence why Taiwan (who
are ethnic Han Chinese) have resisted China's
attempts to annex it and why Hong Kong has never
wanted anything to do with China.
Take note next time please..

You continue with the distinctions about currency, as if that changes anything about your absurd, broad claim that autonomy is the same thing as independence in politics. Again, autonomy has degrees of power separation and not every autonomous enclave have the same levels of autonomy. Hong Kong is the only autonomous region of any country in the world with its own currency. This makes it an exception. An extreme. You cannot define autonomy by employing an exception. The same way Nigeria's Federal system of government massively differs in structure from America's Federal system, or the same way the Danish or Finnish socialist model is different from the Venezuelan socialist model. You're only exhibiting a limited grasp of the nuances of political terms and systems, and thinking you're scoring any points with pedantry.
Those distinctions are actually important as Nowenuse has shown you at great length.grin I am not interested in giving an extra treatise on that.Sorry.

I didn't drop any claim. I'm not sure whether you expect me to keep chanting it like I'm reciting the rosary. I said I didn't give a shiit what TI's Corruption Perception Index states. For one, TI has an army of critics of its methodology. Secondly, by the nature of perception indexes, it is not based on hard statistical numbers, but "perception" in an array of categories. Thirdly, if you put so much faith in such indexes, this thread should have beeof shut a long time ago considering Nigeria ranks below Kenya in the UN Human Development Index. That should be enough to shut every other argument.
Of course you will take it when Nigeria is ranked below Kenya or even Somalia in any developmental index but the TI ranking Nigeria above and better than any other country in corruption level? Then you will remember the methodology is questionable. Kwantinu. grin

And I'm sorry I bored you with my personal anecdote. Though I suspect, you'd have found it more favorable if the tale was about a negative experience in Nairobi. But apologies for the crime.
Personally I don't care if you say anything negative about any place be it Kenya, Ghana, Somalia or Nigeria. It's just that your blanket and prejudicial comments were childish to say the least. On your personal anecdote, that's actually your problem and what I said was just brotherly advice.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by chiefsaif: 8:10pm On Aug 21, 2018
Its so disheartening that when someone travels to some countries he suffers issues of racism and right here we are busy engaging in a battle of 'supremacy that doesn't even exist'. Its a pity that we only look at our brothers with disharmony rather than like-mindedness, I had a lengthy discussion this afternoon with a group of friends about taking other African Countries as vacation/tourist destination rather than going to places that you get rejected because of your skin color then I stumbled on this.

For me, all citizens of African countries are the same and are my brothers so I don't have any reason to argue about what is what.

I am Saif Malami and here's my contact +2348033691468 if you're on WhatsApp kindly add my so we can chat and get to know more of each others' cultures, hope to visit soon.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kur17: 8:19pm On Aug 21, 2018
The Great Riftvalley, Kerio. Kenya

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by OMANBALA1: 8:25pm On Aug 21, 2018
Nowenuse:


Sorry. I mistook you for Omambala. A notorious Igbo supremacist here on this thread and nairaland at large.


I am a supremacist because I am proud of my homeland ? I have always said Africans and Nigerians precisely are very dull. Little wonder Nigeria elected an uneducated, unexposed and witless octogenarian as a President. Keep my mention off your mouth please.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 8:32pm On Aug 21, 2018
jaycent:
Because the arguement is meaningless!

Be honest with yourself. grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:38pm On Aug 21, 2018
Daejoyoung:

Congrats, though at least Nigerians most educated immigrants in the U.S, at least that one is precise. Hardworking is a meaningless word.

https://www.google.de/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.chron.com/news/amp/Data-show-Nigerians-the-most-educated-in-the-U-S-1600808.php&ved=2ahUKEwiZjLTw9f3cAhUN_aQKHVqZDL4QFjAAegQIBBAB&usg=AOvVaw1BqkZ0UilNVrT9mW4U8Imm&ampcf=1



Yes nigerians are educated in doing crime in america. What a nigerian is educated he does not want to work again he just wants to sit down and start stealing or criminals worshipping nigerians are not employed even with all their education. In nigerian beliefs once he gets his papers it is his right to steal. That is why people do not employ nigerians any way. I have seen this in America and europe a lot what a nigerian gets his masters or phd is that mixing with criminals ,start fighting the people which educated him, fighting the indigenes of the country, start fighting the people building the country, and then he goes and get a criminal to lead him.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 8:41pm On Aug 21, 2018
OMANBALA1:



I am a supremacist because I am proud of my homeland ? I have always said Africans and Nigerians precisely are very dull. Little wonder Nigeria elected an uneducated, unexposed and witless octogenarian as a President. Keep my mention off your mouth please.


Africans are not dull. If they were dull they would allow miscreants like you to run a mock. Your type only strengthens our resolve to crush or simply ignore your little silly movements. Just the fact that Igbos feel superior on nothing guarantees zero surport in Africa. Your Biafra is a pipe dream.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Obi1kenobi(m): 8:41pm On Aug 21, 2018
obaaderemi:
Well,I don't see that as arrogating victory to myself.And "dealing with" as I see it means I've had dealings with you on that before which I proved for all to see. grin If it angers you,sorry Sah.

Erm....no. I'm pretty certain I read the context correctly and that was exactly what you sought to do. It doesn't "anger" me - else, I'd engage in the tit-for-tat. I just found it juvenile.


Oga Obikenobi,softly softly with your lies o @the bolded. No be you talk this one below in glorious color? I am the last person to be interested in fabrication and oneupmanship. But please don't twist things here to wriggle out.
Obi1kenobi (m ):
8:33pm On Aug 18
A German has
nothing to brag about over a Norwegian or Swiss,
just because his country is bigger - neither would
any Japanese, South Korean or Taiwanese swap
their countries for China. Hence why Taiwan (who
are ethnic Han Chinese) have resisted China's
attempts to annex it and why [b]Hong Kong has never
wanted anything to do with China.[/b]Take note next time please..

Okay. Let me concede that initial generalization. I've long since made clarifications and drew distinctions at least in 3 posts about the different political situations in Taiwan and Hong Kong. Except you'd like to remain pedantic about it, it doesn't change my argument.


Those distinctions are actually important as Nowenuse has shown you at great length.grin I am not interested in giving an extra treatise on that.Sorry.

I'm guessing you didn't expand on your response here because the futility of it registered, and instead referred to another poster's arguments which didn't show what you're claiming. You made a simple comment:

And my friend, when you use the word "Autonomy" in politics you are referring to independence.
It's a demonstrably false claim. So, do you care to explain how those distinctions are important? Show your working.


Of course you will take it when Nigeria is ranked below Kenya or even Somalia in any developmental index but the TI ranking Nigeria above and better than any other country in corruption level? Then you will remember the methodology is questionable. Kwantinu. grin

Personally I don't care if you say anything negative about any place be it Kenya, Ghana, Somalia or Nigeria. It's just that your blanket and prejudicial comments were childish to say the least. On your personal anecdote, that's actually your problem and what I said was just brotherly advice.


But it goes both ways, nigga. You want me to acknowledge an index's findings when it suits your point, yet you've been in this thread for ages arguing against a different index that doesn't suit your point. Sounds a tad inconsistent and hypocritical, don't you think? The UN Development Index and several other indexes measuring all sorts of parameters has consistently ranked Kenya ahead of Nigeria. Many of the Kenyan folks here have posted these indices. Why then are you still in this thread asserting otherwise?

You don't care if I say anything negative about anywhere including Nigeria, yet you've been on this thread for thousands of pages arguing with those who say negative things about Nigeria? As I've said, had I told a story of woe about my bad experience in Nairobi, you would't have given me some churlish response about how I shouldn't have said it. You'd have used it as an amulet to strengthen your argument. You know it. I know it. But you can keep deluding yourself otherwise.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:00pm On Aug 21, 2018
wizzzmike:




I laugh and it's funny when lazy youth Nigerians call us Ghanaians lazy

Ghanaians are not lazy at all. One of the things I like about ghanaians is they are willing to learn. Anybody which is hardworking nigerians will run them down and start making fun of them.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jaycent(m): 9:53pm On Aug 21, 2018
gallivant:


Be honest with yourself. grin
That's just the fact gaylli pig. This arguement is meaningless. grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by wizzzmike: 10:14pm On Aug 21, 2018
sufferNsmiling:


Ghanaians are not lazy at all. One of the things I like about ghanaians is they are willing to learn. Anybody which is hardworking nigerians will run them down and start making fun of them.

Those funs will never and ever run us down. we know them very well talk big but empty. You the only Nigerian on this forum that make lot of sense.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by OMANBALA1: 10:19pm On Aug 21, 2018
gallivant:


Africans are not dull. If they were dull they would allow miscreants like you to run a mock. Your type only strengthens our resolve to crush or simply ignore your little silly movements. Just the fact that Igbos feel superior on nothing guarantees zero surport in Africa. Your Biafra is a pipe dream.

You should be the last person to talk about African brotherhood, you witless ffool. Secondly, I dont see how Igbo found it way into your post. Haven't you just proved me right that most Africans are unintelligent....lol
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 10:23pm On Aug 21, 2018
OMANBALA1:


You should be the last person to talk about African brotherhood, you witless ffool. Secondly, I dont see how Igbo found it way into your post. Haven't you just proved me right that most Africans are unintelligent....lol

Africans are very intelligent, good luck.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 6:51am On Aug 22, 2018
rvp2018:
Digital lending that is happening now in Kenya is the cutting-edge stuff these nigerians bozo cannot comprehend. They are so backward - it no wonder they are siamese twins with our lazy & primitive southern neighbours TZ.
Your southern neighbours are teaching u..are feeding u; they hosted u as refugees each time u held ur elections! We even helped ur tribalist nation to have peace but yet u r insulting. You are a fool.period

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 7:16am On Aug 22, 2018
You're desperately scouring through the internet for anything including pictures that could validate your tenuous claims and you still come short.Kenya is so far ahead of your lazy, under-achieving and useless country. There are countries kenyans respect - start from Rwanda, Botswana, RSA (where you seem holled up with fellow Naija), Namibia, Ghana, Cote' devior, Senegal,Mauritius & Supra-Sahara - Egypt, Tunisia, Morocco, Libya, Algeria) - but Tanzania, DRC and Nigeria are PURE CESSPOOL.

Only a moronic kenyan will find himself going to TZ for any benchmarking on nearly anything.

Kazikazi:
Your southern neighbours are teaching u..are feeding u; they hosted u as refugees each time u held ur elections! We even helped ur tribalist nation to have peace but yet u r insulting. You are a fool.period

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 7:24am On Aug 22, 2018
You need to go for refunds from whichever Nigeria university taught your economics. The access to credit to private household, private sectors, smes and gov is something every nation want to have and is NOT related to current account deficit - unless you stretch the argument like you've done. We have healthy forex. Kshs is the strongest currency against USD in Africa as we speak. We are building on our strong financial sector (our banking sector is not puny, our co-operative/saccos admired worldwide, our micro-finance sector is one of world best) and now we have added mobile commerce/finance/lending - and we are cusp of a new financial revolution.We already lead Africa in number of people with bank accounts - we are working towards universal bank access...and slowly every kenyan will have ability to access credit (cheaper than Nigeria).
obaaderemi:
I am going to take the trouble to reply you because you sound like someone who is smart and calm,not like the old idiots Kikuyu1 and rsvp who know nothing about economics. They should face their fundi vocations. grin [b]Yes, what you see in that chart relates to household debt and I want you to pay attention to how it affects national economies. Higher household debt like in the case of little India Kenya results in more consumption by households and individuals and a larger share of your economic output coming from consumption grin. At the same time it results in your country running a current account deficit with the rest of the world especially the western world and China. I tried to discuss this with rsvp and Kikuyu in the past but they thought we were enemies and couldn't learn anything from one another.grin They were ignorantly boasting about Kenya's trade deficit. The illiterates!
So,your imports increase with consumption making up a larger share of the imports. For example, a 20year old Nairobi boys gets a loan and immediately spends it on a second hand Nike shoes grin. Check Kenya's balance of trade and you will be dismayed unless you are one of the economic illiterates here. FYI, the world bank and IMF are already warning Kenya. Plus the fact that the whole thing is a big danger to your already puny banking sector. So you see why sensible people came up with that chart and why I have posted it. Honestly, I have not said all of this to shame Kenyan education but for the benefit of a few sensible Kenyans who might be students[/b].

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Hbuyosh(m): 7:28am On Aug 22, 2018
Kazikazi:
Your southern neighbours are teaching u..are feeding u; they hosted u as refugees each time u held ur elections! We even helped ur tribalist nation to have peace but yet u r insulting. You are a fool.period
How can u feed us when u are struggling to feed yourselves....


And seriously, last year 78% of Tanzanians were going hungry, and here u are talking about feeding Kenya?

https://allafrica.com/stories/201703020574.html

Similar report by your 'own' newspaper (a major Tanzanian English newspaper, subsidiary of Kenyan media company....we dominate you in every way)
http://www.thecitizen.co.tz/News/78pc-of-people-affected-by-food-shortages--study/1840340-3833436-bf4lbgz/index.html

Friend, we buy your maize and rice. We pay for it in order to bolster your tiny, insignificant economy. It is not charity.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 7:45am On Aug 22, 2018
DRC congo here we come..we will ameliorate the mess like we've done in TZ. Equity Bank has now expanded to 7 countries - Kenya companies who have dominated the eastern and part of southern africa - are now increasingly looking at Central & Western Africa.DRC & Ethiopia(if they ever allow) - will new sweatspot.
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/news/equity-DRC-branch-becomes-most-profitable-subsidiary/539546-4723116-yu9n6q/index.html

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kur17: 8:32am On Aug 22, 2018
Six out of ten worst cities in the world yr2018 are African
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/most-liveable-cities-2018-vienna-melbourne-best-places-live-ranked-a8490846.html%3Famp&ved=2ahUKEwinrayokIDdAhUDC-wKHWyrAFMQFjAXegQIBBAB&usg=AOvVaw2AHv5BrEy5TnoK8u5jfD0r&ampcf=1

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 9:09am On Aug 22, 2018
Hbuyosh:

How can u feed us when u are struggling to feed yourselves....


And seriously, last year 78% of Tanzanians were going hungry, and here u are talking about feeding Kenya?

https://allafrica.com/stories/201703020574.html

Similar report by your 'own' newspaper (a major Tanzanian English newspaper, subsidiary of Kenyan media company....we dominate you in every way)
http://www.thecitizen.co.tz/News/78pc-of-people-affected-by-food-shortages--study/1840340-3833436-bf4lbgz/index.html

Friend, we buy your maize and rice. We pay for it in order to bolster your tiny, insignificant economy. It is not charity.

There is no need for essay competitions here.Your 3.5 million are starving to death! Yes starving to death! Poor kenyans

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 9:33am On Aug 22, 2018
When did empirical data become an essay?
Kazikazi:
There is no need for essay competitions here.Your 3.5 million are starving to death! Yes starving to death! Poor kenyans
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 9:35am On Aug 22, 2018
Dar es salaam Tanzania

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Hbuyosh(m): 10:00am On Aug 22, 2018
Kazikazi:
There is no need for essay competitions here.Your 3.5 million are starving to death! Yes starving to death! Poor kenyans

The operating word in that headline is "May", meaning unless something is done about the situation, the 3.5m people would starve. But did 3.5million Kenyans really starve? No, cos our govt always has contingency measures to offset the situation, mainly by stockpiling foods from various places including your poor, malnourished Tanzania.....

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 10:18am On Aug 22, 2018
Hbuyosh:


The operating word in that headline is "May", meaning unless something is done about the situation, the 3.5m people would starve. But did 3.5million Kenyans really starve? No, cos our govt always has contingency measures to offset the situation, mainly by stockpiling foods from various places including your poor, malnourished Tanzania.....

meanwhile in kenya...

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 11:27am On Aug 22, 2018
Kazikazi:
meanwhile in kenya...

This just proves the level of Tz education system. You're given facts you replay with old time pictures.

Tz has along way to go to even compete with Rwanda.

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