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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 5:14pm On Aug 22, 2018
Obi1kenobi:


Erm....no. I'm pretty certain I read the context correctly and that was exactly what you sought to do. It doesn't "anger" me - else, I'd engage in the tit-for-tat. I just found it juvenile.
Well, you read what you wanted to. Dealt with as I meant it was that I gave my attention to your generalizations and childish prejudice in the past. And I showed it.



Okay. Let me concede that initial generalization. I've long since made clarifications and drew distinctions at least in 3 posts about the different political situations in Taiwan and Hong Kong. Except you'd like to remain pedantic about it, it doesn't change my argument.
Well, I am sure you have done that at the bolded. That's a good gesture. But it's just pathetic that you had to do this now after your barefaced lie was pointed out. grin Or maybe you were just exposing your poor knowledge of Oriental politics.



I'm guessing you didn't expand on your response here because the futility of it registered, and instead referred to another poster's arguments which didn't show what you're claiming. You made a simple comment:

It's a demonstrably false claim. So, do you care to explain how those distinctions are important? Show your working.
What more do you want me to add to the lengthy points on the distinction between the kinds of autonomy a country like Taiwan enjoys and that of an enclave like Catalonia, which you brought up?There's enough said on that already.



But it goes both ways, nigga. You want me to acknowledge an index's findings when it suits your point, yet you've been in this thread for ages arguing against a different index that doesn't suit your point. Sounds a tad inconsistent and hypocritical, don't you think? The UN Development Index and several other indexes measuring all sorts of parameters has consistently ranked Kenya ahead of Nigeria. Many of the Kenyan folks here have posted these indices. Why then are you still in this thread asserting otherwise?
This is of course the silliest thing you've said so far,Charlie. grin Can you kindly point out where me or any other Nigerian has pointedly failed to acknowledged the UN hdi and its ranking of Kenya over Nigeria?What we have said and which you yourself had acknowledged in the past is that the reason for that slight difference is the fact [b]that Nigeria is a far bigger country than Kenya.[/b]I am beginning to believe talking from both sides of your mouth is your thing. The contention here is that why is it easy for you, Sir to disregard such indexes when they favor your country? Like the university ranking thing and the corruption index. At times like that, you easily accept that the methodologies are wrong. SMH.

You don't care if I say anything negative about anywhere including Nigeria, yet you've been on this thread for thousands of pages arguing with those who say negative things about Nigeria? As I've said, had I told a story of woe about my bad experience in Nairobi, you would't have given me some churlish response about how I shouldn't have said it. You'd have used it as an amulet to strengthen your argument. You know it. I know it. But you can keep deluding yourself otherwise.
But,Sir. You've also been on this thread for ages and you have not been here throwing flowers either. grin How do you manage this kind of hypocrisy? That shot is cheap indeed coming from you.To be honest with you, your post would have been ignored by me if not for the two points I bolded in your post which are 1.Hong Kong wants nothing to do with China. Which to the best of my knowledge, you have now corrected after much ado. 2.Your blanket statement about how no nation on earth could be more corrupt than Nigeria. And you've so far failed to answer the question I put to you. In how many other African countries have you encountered their systems for you to compare affairs. Instead you've been grasping at straws. What's my business with what you say about Kenya? That's your problem with the Little Indians. But when you say it about Nigeria and it's unsubstantiated, then trust me to take on you like I have done.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 5:15pm On Aug 22, 2018
Kur17:


The second and third pics are from Nigeria,

Ouch! Idiot shoots himself in the leg!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 5:24pm On Aug 22, 2018
The past 24 hrs I received anecdotal confirmation of issues we've posted on here,namely our dairy industry,Magufuli and our demographic dividend. Since some,many,actually on this thread I won't name can't interpret data here's some hearsay!
Small holder dairy farming is one of the surest ways of poverty reduction.

29 September 2010, Rome - Making smallholder dairy production more competitive could be a powerful tool for reducing poverty, raising nutrition levels and improving the livelihoods of rural people in many developing countries, FAO said in a new report on smallholder milk production published today.
http://www.fao.org/news/story/en/item/44582/icode/

The East and Southern African Dairy Association conference has just opened in Nairobi and by now you know who leads continentally.

Kenya’s rapidly growing middle class demands much higher and more consistent quantities of milk. The per capita milk demand is projected to double from 111 litres to 220 litres by 2030,” Kariuki said.

She however noted that despite the high investment, the country's dairy sector is not well coordinated and there is need to harmonise resources to ensure that the full potential of the industry is achieved.

According to the Food and Agriculture Organisation, Kenya’s per capita milk consumption is among the highest globally of any low-income developing country.
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2016/03/15/kenyas-dairy-sector-tops-in-east-africa_c1311660

I'm angling to see how I can insert myself somewhere in the dairy chain in the coming 7 years-the opportunities are real.

A cousin was recently operated on in Nairobi hospital and met one of the entourage of the badly wounded Tz oppo leader(the nigga was hit 17 times!?) Anyway,many not just oppo but even CCM bigwigs are convinced Magufuli doesn't have all the knives in his drawer. The nigga is mental! He personally ordered the hits and arrests. IIRC,three have died and he's shut down at least two papers and targeted the main cyber forum,jamii which somehow escaped.

Last night a cousin with 30 years teaching experience enlightened me on an interesting new development I touched on earlier. In Kiambu,Muranga,Kirinyaga and Nyeri class sizes are decreasing rapidly. From 5 streams to 3 and occasionally even 2 while kindergartens which once has 20-25 kids now have 10-15.
The demographic dividend.the ratio of economically active to youthful inactive is rapidly lowering and we're within the first phases.

Kenya is at a demographic transformation stage. Fertility levels are declining gradually and Kenyans are living longer. There is reason for optimism that Kenya can benefit from a demographic dividend within 15 to 20 years. It is estimated that its working age population will grow to 73 per cent by 2050, bolstering the country’s GDP per capita 12 times higher than the present, with nearly 90 per cent of the working age in employment.
https://www.nation.co.ke/oped/opinion/Demographic-Dividend-Youth-Kenya-Society-Population/440808-2840490-15hihh6z/index.html

THE FUTURE IS HERE!
Rmbr,you read it here first.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 5:25pm On Aug 22, 2018
kikuyu1:


HAIIYYAAAA!? Dangoteland has actually beaten us in something meaningful,however minor!

I actually checked the per capita and yes,its true! The last stats of 2011 have us at 1.9 kgs per year and the Ogas are twice. BEHOLD!

http://www.thepoultrysite.com/articles/3492/global-poultry-trends-egg-consumption-in-africa-and-oceania-below-the-global-average/

However,many of us are culturally restricted from egg consumption,tbh. Let me wipe away these tears of joy and run to tell the world.
Honestly, how old are you,nigger? I thought you said you were in your forties? If that's the case you must be the oldest man posting on this thread and you've just proven that Solomon's wisdom has nothing to do with Methuselah's age. grin My post was in response to a pessimistic Nigerian who was too blind to see any progress in Nigeria's agriculture.The boy kept quiet about it only for you to run to the internet to compare egg production per capita and to start giving childish excuses for coming short. This your Obsessive Comparison Disorder needs psychiatric attention.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 5:50pm On Aug 22, 2018
Taita Taveta Kenya

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 5:51pm On Aug 22, 2018
Kenya Taita Taveta

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 5:52pm On Aug 22, 2018
Taita Kenya

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 5:53pm On Aug 22, 2018
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 5:54pm On Aug 22, 2018
Taita and Taveta Kenya

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 5:55pm On Aug 22, 2018
Kur17:


The second and third pics are from Nigeria,

Haha grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kur17: 6:32pm On Aug 22, 2018
Nyayo estate apartments, Embakasi

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:38pm On Aug 22, 2018
gallivant:


Well said. People wonder why I don't like that fool, it's because he is an empty vessel and they make the most noise! I can't stand his B.S.!

An empty vessel is better. NairobiWalker once summarized his character as a fella who sits on the fence like a baboon waiting for anything to be thrown his way grin

No one likes that fool !

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:39pm On Aug 22, 2018
gallivant:


I have been waiting all day for them, they didnt show. They must be tired from last night's sleep. wink

Thats it. Sleep is the most tiresome job in Tz.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:43pm On Aug 22, 2018
Daejoyoung:

So are Kenyans producing the Bill gates and Zuckerbeg's of this world? you only said Kenyans are hardworking, what kind of hardwork? in what way have the Kenyan citizens stood out?

I don get it. Are there types of hardwork? Someone who is working hard is working hard. Kenyans are globally known for genuine hardwork (*emphasis on the genuine part*). Nigerians are known for reading books and scamming.

Hardwork implies a great deal of effort and endurance to achieve goals.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:55pm On Aug 22, 2018
Kazikazi:
what did u invest u hungry people.ur uchumi died;they couldnt pay their rent.ur bank M have collapsed.come n take it.

If only we could equally talk of Tanzanian companies in Kenya collapsing. Unfortunately, you dont even have companies in Kenya in the first place for them to collapse. So yeah. Btw, did you know Uchumi Retail Chain is a govt owned, publicly traded, parastatal? The fact that they expanded all the way to your market is worth a study in itself. Govt entities arent historically very well run in Kenya compared to the private ones that are driving Magufuli Mad. I needed to let you know that so that we can come to this question:

Since in your country the govt is the one that does (most) business, which govt owned entity has made its way to Kenya (or simply outside Tz)? Mention just one.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:55pm On Aug 22, 2018
NairobiWalker:


So on point. grin grin grin

The fence guy grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:57pm On Aug 22, 2018
Jay254:


The outcome is beautiful, true natural grass in aplace like msa needs constant watering to achieve thesame.

Hahahah Ndege inachanganyikiwa sana.

Lakini kuna ocean grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:06pm On Aug 22, 2018
Kazikazi:
Yes we built.and no kenyans can go there.u need TZ Id card to enter.ur finished now.and we will built a wall for the whole border area.

Are you sure if I go through the managerial workforce I wont come across a Kenyan? And who told you we were interested in your tanzanite when we have the same mineral in Kenya that we decided to halt mining untill similar issues as you had are settled? Actually, it used to be smuggled to your tanzanite mines before you built the Trump wall. So we are actually quite impressed with the wall as it will halt the unscrupulous smuggling over to your mines for auction. And we have a plan to call it Kenyanite angry
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:09pm On Aug 22, 2018
obaaderemi:
You just can't get these Tanzanians out of your mind. Anyway, welcome back

I see you already arrogated yourself the role of the official usher of the thread. Not bad given you are always here waiting for anything to be thrown your way. Just dont forget to marry like Okoye grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kur17: 7:12pm On Aug 22, 2018
Fourways estate&Kiambu

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:15pm On Aug 22, 2018
rvp2018:
Digital lending that is happening now in Kenya is the cutting-edge stuff these nigerians bozo cannot comprehend. They are so backward - it no wonder they are siamese twins with our lazy & primitive southern neighbours TZ.

I doubt Nigerians and their Tz ilk can access an instant loan of say 100 K on their phone in minutes without leaving the comfort of home. Only in Kenya!!!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 7:17pm On Aug 22, 2018
obaaderemi:
Honestly, how old are you,nigger? I thought you said you were in your forties? If that's the case you must be the oldest man posting on this thread and you've just proven that Solomon's wisdom has nothing to do with Methuselah's age. grin My post was in response to a pessimistic Nigerian who was too blind to see any progress in Nigeria's agriculture.The boy kept quiet about it only for you to run to the internet to compare egg production per capita and to start giving childish excuses for coming short. This your Obsessive Comparison Disorder needs psychiatric attention.

Nigga,you're mouthy lack of intelligence,luckily for me doesn't influence my interpretation of reality.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:25pm On Aug 22, 2018
Obi1kenobi:


Erm....no. I'm pretty certain I read the context correctly and that was exactly what you sought to do. It doesn't "anger" me - else, I'd engage in the tit-for-tat. I just found it juvenile.



Okay. Let me concede that initial generalization. I've long since made clarifications and drew distinctions at least in 3 posts about the different political situations in Taiwan and Hong Kong. Except you'd like to remain pedantic about it, it doesn't change my argument.



I'm guessing you didn't expand on your response here because the futility of it registered, and instead referred to another poster's arguments which didn't show what you're claiming. You made a simple comment:

It's a demonstrably false claim. So, do you care to explain how those distinctions are important? Show your working.



But it goes both ways, nigga. You want me to acknowledge an index's findings when it suits your point, yet you've been in this thread for ages arguing against a different index that doesn't suit your point. Sounds a tad inconsistent and hypocritical, don't you think? The UN Development Index and several other indexes measuring all sorts of parameters has consistently ranked Kenya ahead of Nigeria. Many of the Kenyan folks here have posted these indices. Why then are you still in this thread asserting otherwise?

You don't care if I say anything negative about anywhere including Nigeria, yet you've been on this thread for thousands of pages arguing with those who say negative things about Nigeria? As I've said, had I told a story of woe about my bad experience in Nairobi, you would't have given me some churlish response about how I shouldn't have said it. You'd have used it as an amulet to strengthen your argument. You know it. I know it. But you can keep deluding yourself otherwise.

This post deserves applause from the blackest coats to the whitest socks!!!

Flawless, factual, anticipatory and way above your opponent's noggins!

Keep whipping the chicken rearer till he quits Chicken George politics.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:29pm On Aug 22, 2018
Where are the self acclaimed useless giants? grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:36pm On Aug 22, 2018
Kazikazi:
Your southern neighbours are teaching u..are feeding u; they hosted u as refugees each time u held ur elections! We even helped ur tribalist nation to have peace but yet u r insulting. You are a fool.period

That was more about the good hearted Kikwete than your country. The current president would have grabbed himself some popcorns to watch terror unfold in Kenya just to feel like a superstar.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:41pm On Aug 22, 2018
Hbuyosh:

How can u feed us when u are struggling to feed yourselves....


And seriously, last year 78% of Tanzanians were going hungry, and here u are talking about feeding Kenya?

https://allafrica.com/stories/201703020574.html

Similar report by your 'own' newspaper (a major Tanzanian English newspaper, subsidiary of Kenyan media company....we dominate you in every way)
http://www.thecitizen.co.tz/News/78pc-of-people-affected-by-food-shortages--study/1840340-3833436-bf4lbgz/index.html

Friend, we buy your maize and rice. We pay for it in order to bolster your tiny, insignificant economy. It is not charity.


Tanzanians are more malnourished than Kenyans (from the arid areas). And this has to do with the fact that the emphasis in Tanzania is filling your belly in contrast to FAO standards of nutritional value. In other words Tanzanians, what are you eating? You cant just eat rice and cassava throughout the year.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:44pm On Aug 22, 2018
gallivant:
Nairobi







tongue
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:47pm On Aug 22, 2018
Kazikazi:
as a lion goes hungry for days so is kenya.and thats why our women are beautiful

Thats a lot of convoluted logic my friend grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:49pm On Aug 22, 2018
Daejoyoung:

Nigeria is four times the size of Kenya. 59% is already above a 110million people, hope you know that?

So in providing education to your populace you look at the absolute numbers and thank yourselves?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:55pm On Aug 22, 2018
NigeriaIsDoomed:
Inside Kenya

The second photo was taken in Nigeria during the Biafra war. The third one just recently in Boko Haram's territory in the hotbed north. No disrespect to the unfortunate kids.

I told you desperation has killed a few people and you might be next
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:57pm On Aug 22, 2018
kikuyu1:
The past 24 hrs I received anecdotal confirmation of issues we've posted on here,namely our dairy industry,Magufuli and our demographic dividend. Since some,many,actually on this thread I won't name can't interpret data here's some hearsay!
Small holder dairy farming is one of the surest ways of poverty reduction.


http://www.fao.org/news/story/en/item/44582/icode/

The East and Southern African Dairy Association conference has just opened in Nairobi and by now you know who leads continentally.


https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2016/03/15/kenyas-dairy-sector-tops-in-east-africa_c1311660

I'm angling to see how I can insert myself somewhere in the dairy chain in the coming 7 years-the opportunities are real.

A cousin was recently operated on in Nairobi hospital and met one of the entourage of the badly wounded Tz oppo leader(the nigga was hit 17 times!?) Anyway,many not just oppo but even CCM bigwigs are convinced Magufuli doesn't have all the knives in his drawer. The nigga is mental! He personally ordered the hits and arrests. IIRC,three have died and he's shut down at least two papers and targeted the main cyber forum,jamii which somehow escaped.

Last night a cousin with 30 years teaching experience enlightened me on an interesting new development I touched on earlier. In Kiambu,Muranga,Kirinyaga and Nyeri class sizes are decreasing rapidly. From 5 streams to 3 and occasionally even 2 while kindergartens which once has 20-25 kids now have 10-15.
The demographic dividend.the ratio of economically active to youthful inactive is rapidly lowering and we're within the first phases.


https://www.nation.co.ke/oped/opinion/Demographic-Dividend-Youth-Kenya-Society-Population/440808-2840490-15hihh6z/index.html

THE FUTURE IS HERE!
Rmbr,you read it here first.

Nice analysis bro.

Is the Nigerian population setup showing any signs of transitioning? That baby factory needs a break grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kur17: 8:12pm On Aug 22, 2018
TayserMahiri:


Tanzanians are more malnourished than Kenyans (from the arid areas). And this has to do with the fact that the emphasis in Tanzania is filling your belly in contrast to FAO standards of nutritional value. In other words Tanzanians, what are you eating? You cant just eat rice and cassava throughout the year.

Actually they've also included foreign refugees in Kenya in that findings...in the meantime almost a half of Tanzanian children are mulnourished

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