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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:15pm On Aug 22, 2018 |
The World's First Black Female Phd Holder in Nuclear Physics. Fridah Mokaya from Kenya, She did her research in the field of Experimental Nuclear and Hadronic Physics, using an atom's Nucleus as her laboratory at UConn. This at an opportune time when Kenya has identified Nuclear energy as a necessity rather than a choice. Only black female in her class. 3 Likes
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 8:18pm On Aug 22, 2018 |
TayserMahiri: Nigerian logic. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kur17: 8:21pm On Aug 22, 2018 |
TayserMahiri: He just made a mockery of his own countrymen, ...it's high time to stop posting this horrible pics of innocent people no matter where they come from |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kur17: 8:28pm On Aug 22, 2018 |
TayserMahiri: Population growth is at almost 4% while GDP growth is 1or2%, that's a minus on GDP per capita |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:45pm On Aug 22, 2018 |
Kur17: The worst part is he probably knew they were Nigerian kids. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:54pm On Aug 22, 2018 |
Kur17: Have they picked up the pace cos as at 2016 we were tying at 2.6 %. Tanzanians were more potent baby makers at 3.1 %. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 8:59pm On Aug 22, 2018 |
TayserMahiri: My dude! We'll be abducted by aliens before that happens! |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:02pm On Aug 22, 2018 |
Nairobi Programmer Edition. Cool artwork you could use for phone lockscreen ![]() https://okekedesigns.squarespace.com/ 4 Likes
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kur17: 9:05pm On Aug 22, 2018 |
TayserMahiri: BTW I'm sorry Nigeria produce babies at a rate of 5.6% https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/nigeria-population/&ved=2ahUKEwih6I7IuYHdAhUJfxoKHYWODSsQFjABegQIDBAE&usg=AOvVaw0Kv0Bea7dk-tuir5S3eMHG |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 9:06pm On Aug 22, 2018 |
Yobeezy: They are licking their wounds with the Tanzanians. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Obi1kenobi(m): 9:21pm On Aug 22, 2018 |
obaaderemi:You made this statement below to contradict a point I made: obaaderemi:It's meaning is clear as day. Had you even perhaps referred to only Hong Kong, you'd still have been wrong, but not ridiculously wrong, since Hong Kong's autonomy comes with unique benefits of only independent nations like its currency, but it still lacks the sovereignty of an independent nation. But you made a generalized claim that "the word autonomy refers to independence". Which is arrant nonsense. And then rambled on with irrelevant points about how Scotland etc don't have their own currency, as if anyone was ever arguing about that. What does all that have to do with the simple fact that autonomy and independence are not the same thing?
The very central theme to this thread is that Kenya is a more developed nation than Nigeria. Your Nairaland existence since then has been almost entirely devoted to contradicting that. If by a host of metrics about HDI, poverty rate, literacy rate, inequality, life expectancy, infant mortality etc Kenya consistently outperforms Nigeria in most international metrics, what then are you even arguing about here, or do you simply enjoy reading yourself? Because if you "acknowledge" those things as you claim, then the entire premise of extending this thread interminably makes no sense. Is Kenya more developed than Nigeria or not?
What "cheap" shot? I posted about a recent experience of mine with the Nigerian police. You made a snide retort basically telling me that it's not the forum's business (as if the story is something private). I pointed out evident reality: that the only reason for that churlish, juvenile response is simply because I made it about the Nigerian police. I've already stated my premise for my claims about Nigeria's corruption: it's borne of my experience of the rot in every sector in the country. Simple. The amusing thing is with your outrage about it, one would think I disparaged Norway's corruption record, rather than Nigeria, a country ranked 148th out of 180 in the TI corruption perception index. 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Obi1kenobi(m): 9:32pm On Aug 22, 2018 |
Kur17: Not sure where you saw that. We haven't even broken 3%. We're usually around the late 2.0's. This is partly because of our low life expectancy of 53 years which somewhat helps compensate for a ridiculous fertility rate of over 5.5 births per woman. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 9:44pm On Aug 22, 2018 |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Bifwoli: 10:20pm On Aug 22, 2018 |
Obi1kenobi: Looool ,i've always found it funny and hypocritical when Nigerians use the huge population when it suits their advantage then they wanna disown the same population when the facts ,indexes and numbers don't add up to their qualitative and other advantages. Like George W Bush once said "you're either with us or against us" . If i was the nation-state called Nigeria i'd be ashamed and disown some folks who only use me when its suits them and when i'm in dire straits they know me not. 4 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 4:16am On Aug 23, 2018 |
Kenyan company, Safaricom on Fortune’s ‘Change the World’ firms listing The Kenya-based telecom firm Safaricom is number 19th globally according to a ranking done by the Fortune Magazine listing firms that ‘Change the World.’ M-Pesa is touted as one of the world’s most successful fintech solutions, and among a pioneer within that space. No doubt it has become the poster-child for fintech solutions around the world. “More than eight million of those mpesa users are in India ![]() Safaricom is one of only two telecom firms to feature on this list of 50 companies. It even beat big-time multinationals like Apple, Microsoft, Deloitte, Barclays, Toyota, and Hilto ![]() 1 Like
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 7:31am On Aug 23, 2018 |
Kur17: 5 years ago, Nigeria's GDP per capita was almost triple Kenya's. Currently it's almost equal. In the next 2 years we'll be well ahead of them and to think that has been their only bragging point. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 7:33am On Aug 23, 2018 |
NigeriaIsDoomed:few settlers are owning kenya.the rest of kenyans are either slaves or are dying of hunger. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 7:36am On Aug 23, 2018 |
I would really hate to be TayserMahiri's enemy. Obi1kenobi kicks Obaboon's ass, TayserMahiri come's in and applies salt and pepper to the fresh wounds.��� 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 7:51am On Aug 23, 2018 |
TayserMahiri:dont say we dont have companies in kenya.have u heard about village supermarket? Do u know CRDB is gov owned and its doing well outside Tanzania? Here are the proof
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 8:01am On Aug 23, 2018 |
TayserMahiri:You have nothing there just a handful of oil.no managerial or human resource.thats why hunger and unemployment doesnt leave kenya.hungry kenyans.Did u ever hear about graphite? Wait for a shocker from Tanzania. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 8:38am On Aug 23, 2018 |
If you remove Oil production from Nigeria GDP - then you'll realize it not any better from any bottom 10 country in sub-sahara including TZ, Burundi, South Sudan, Niger, Chad and Eritrea. NairobiWalker: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 8:41am On Aug 23, 2018 |
At least you're taking baby steps - hope you stay awake.Malawi woke up from deep slumber and overtook you. Your top bank will not make it anywhere near Kenya's Top 10 banks. 3 of our banks make the global top 1000 banks. Kazikazi: 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 9:03am On Aug 23, 2018 |
rvp2018:You too.make sure you are waking up before south sudan eradicate hunger in their territory..otherwise u will be the only nation in the world which starves to death.you hear me? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 9:17am On Aug 23, 2018 |
TayserMahiri:You are here more than anyone else,Tasha. But I can see you are taking advice and cutting down on that addiction. ![]() 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 9:26am On Aug 23, 2018 |
I know this is beyond your education level and you prefer posting pictures rather than dealing with evidence based empirical data to make sound argument. At least a few Nigerians here appreciate that .If you're interested in which country is more hungry, be my guest. Let start with FAO FOOD SECURITY AND NUTRITION REPORT 2017. https://reliefweb.int/sites/reliefweb.int/files/resources/a-i7967e.pdf Start in Table 4 - Under-nourishment in Eastern Africa. You can see the steady progress kenya has made from 1999-2000 when we had 32% under-nourirshment(malnutrition) to 2014-2016- when we nearly halved it to 19%. Now look at what great nation of the lazy people of Tanzania has done from the same period. They had 36% - and now they are 32% (that where we were 20yrs ago!!). In raw figures..you have 17M of your people under-nourished(hungry) - and we have 8M. Our 8M live mostly in the semi-arid and arid north - like turkanas, somalis and oromos. You have mostly arable land. But of course you're too lazy and messed up by communist hang-over. In another two decades...we would have made hunger history...but you'll still be stuck at 30% (1 out of 3 TZ) hungry, under-fed and malnourished. But take heart - Uganda had 27% of it people under-nourished in 2000 and now it risen 39%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In short you're not the worst. DRC congo and Nigeria are obviously worse than you - let's not talk about Burundi or South Sudan for now. You're certainly not THE WORST - but to compete with kenya in nearly anything is GRAND DELUSION Ndugu kutoka danganyika. Kazikazi: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 9:41am On Aug 23, 2018 |
KaziKazi, While on the same FAO AFRICA FOOD SECURITY & NUTRITION 2017 Report....please read this. Progress is monitored through six, interlinked, global nutrition targets for 2025: • Reduce by 40 percent the number of children under five years who are stunted; • Achieve a 50 percent reduction in the rate of anaemia in women of reproductive age; • Achieve a 30 percent reduction in the rate of infants born low birth weight; • Ensure that there is no increase in the rate of children who are overweight; • Increase to at least 50 percent the rate of exclusive breastfeeding in the first six months; and • Reduce and maintain childhood wasting to less than five percent. Overall progress towards the WHA targets has been poor, with most countries on track for two or three of the five targets being tracked (Figure 7).12 Only one country is on track for all five targets (Kenya) and one is on track for four targets (Ghana). 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 9:49am On Aug 23, 2018 |
Obi1kenobi:Well,all this back and forth started on the back of an erroneous claim you made that Hong Kong never wanted to have anything to do with China, a claim which has since been confined to the trashcan where it belongs.And it is actually a fact that for all intents and purposes, Hong Kong is an independent country except officially. I have never denied what I said either right or wrong unlike you,Sir who tried to lie your way out. That's lack of integrity.(Pardon my French) Your claim of Nigeria being the most corrupt country on earth and your emphasis that no matter what international bodies and facts say to the contrary, your claim holds true is at best childish and at worst absurd. I seriously don't know how people like you can live with so much hatred for your own country. Even if a Kenyan says that about Kenya, it would still look stupid. The last time I checked 148 out of 180 was still different from 180 out of 180. ![]() ![]() |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:50pm On Aug 23, 2018 |
Stunting currently affects 42 per cent of under five children, and is only a two percentage points lower than it was five years ago. The burden of stunting in Tanzania ranks third in Sub-Saharan Africa, after Ethiopia and the Democratic Republic of Congo. Child underweight (16 percent) also remains at unacceptable levels, and the country is not on track to achieve the MDG 1 target to reduce underweight by one-half by the year 2015. There are pockets of very high acute malnutrition, including Zanzibar where 12 per cent of children are affected. About one third of children age 6-59 months are iron deficient and vitamin A deficient, 69 percent are anaemic, and over 18 million Tanzanians do not consume adequately iodized salt. 1 Like
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 1:33pm On Aug 23, 2018 |
NairobiWalker: Mwenzangu! After all this time-REALLY!? Get it from this expert ,Prof Johnson Falade,a native who's been involved in country for over 3 decades and doesn't subscribe to Femi Kale's statistical theatre we've all been laughing at here: TO HIM SHOWED THAT,LOW FIGURE FOR GDP PER CAPITA INCOME OF $1,154.https://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/10/half-of-nigerians-live-in-slums-un/ Fyi,he was Lagos UN Habitat head for 10 years-HE'D KNOW! Also this was 2011. Since then they've hit a recession and grown at least 20 mn while me and rvp2018 have broken down their economy sectorally and examined comparative consumption data which always brings tears to the usually self praising Dangotelanders. Imo,that they were so poor even pre recession shows the power of MYTH! As of now their GDP per capita nominal,max is 1300$ and ours is just under 2000$
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 1:53pm On Aug 23, 2018 |
Bifwoli: When you ask them why bigger nations like Brazil,India or China outperform them you only hear crickets! |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 2:04pm On Aug 23, 2018 |
obaaderemi: This is classic ho babble! Emotional nonsensical verbiage designed to convince the speaker she is clever. And it won't end soon cause My conclusion is definitive: Women lack the capacity for logic and reason.https://www.workitdaily.com/women-lack-logic-reason/
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Obi1kenobi(m): 2:18pm On Aug 23, 2018 |
obaaderemi: 1) You have displayed a "lack of integrity" in deliberately looking to create misdirections in what the argument was about. Hence, rambling about distinctions between Hong Kong and other autonomous enclaves around the world, when the only thing I disputed was your claim that autonomy and independence are the same thing which has since been "confined to the trash can where it belongs" despite your laughable attempts at misdirections on your own statement. 2) Hong Kong is not independent "for all intents and purposes". At best, it is independent "for most intents and purposes". Which effectively still means that a non-sovereign territory which is still subordinate to China in military and diplomatic affairs and an expiring Sino-British treaty which will terminate within the next 2 decades (putting Hong Kong completely at the mercy of Chinese whims) is not "independent for all intents and purposes". Infact, if China wanted to rip up the Sino-British treaty right now, it can and there's not a damn thing anyone can do to change it, though they'll certainly come under intense diplomatic sanctions like Russia did after its Crimea activities. Independence is not the same as autonomy as you claimed. You can keep trying hard to wriggle out of that fallacy and keep failing. Best to choose the path of "integrity" and acknowledge you were talking rubbish when you said that before. 3) You didn't answer my earlier question: is Kenya more developed than Nigeria or not? Let me understand what this interminable thread is really about. Is Kenya more developed than Nigeria or not? And no, Kenya having a higher HDI is not just about population. Sure, greater demographic control helps, but it's ultimately about policies and will. India have dragged hundreds of millions of people out of poverty afterall while Nigeria's poverty-stricken numbers have only risen. Kenya's poverty incidence rate has fallen sharply in the last decade by 10%, unlike Nigeria: https://www.worldbank.org/en/country/kenya/publication/kenya-economic-update-poverty-incidence-in-kenya-declined-significantly-but-unlikely-to-be-eradicated-by-2030 I've said what I care to about the TI corruption perception index, and don't care to keep repeating myself really. 2 Likes |
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