OMANBALA1:


I don't really like this Nigga because he rarely comes to the Anambra thread but he is ffuccking intelligent. Somehow I feel Igbos reason better than an average Nigeria, maybe its because of the war.

Igbos are also average Nigerians. You all look and sound alike to everybody else.

obaaderemi:
No,Kofi. Your brother wizimike already proved Ghana is by far the largest receiver of aid in west Africa per capita. No one comes close. Ghana has no budget without foreign donors.

unless you want to say 2.7 billion is lesser than 700 million

Kenya maybe better managed does not make it richer than Nigeria though.

Cameroon may have light 24/7 does not make it richer than Nigeria.

Rwanda may have a National carrier does not make it richer than Nigeria

Statistics still show that Nigeria's per capita income is still higher than Kenya.

Nigeria's case is like that of Malaysia and Taiwan.

Taiwan is much richer than Malaysia but not well run. They say in Asia if you want to sack a lazy employee and don't know how to go about it, simply say he is transferred to Taipei and he will quit immediately.

Despite all that, Taiwan is still much richer than Malaysia.

Lagos state on it's own has a GDP greater than that of the whole of Kenya.

I had a friend who spent 3 years in Kenya and admitted the place is more better organised that Nigeria. He still says Nigeria is richer

I also met a Kenyan lady (well cultured) who was in town for 2 weeks. Unfortunately, she did not go round

She had a few complaints about Nigeria especially the unfriendliness of Nigerians who were impatient because of her accent

We had to bail her out

grandstar:
Kenya maybe better managed does not make it richer than Nigeria though.

Cameroon may have light 24/7 does not make it richer than Nigeria.

Rwanda may have a National carrier does not make it richer than Nigeria

Statistics still show that Nigeria's per capita income is still higher than Kenya.

Nigeria's case is like that of Malaysia and Taiwan.

Taiwan is much richer than Malaysia but not well run. They say in Asia if you want to sack a lazy employee and don't know how to go about it, simply say he is transferred to Taipei and he will quit immediately.

Despite all that, Taiwan is still much richer than Malaysia.

Lagos state on it's own has a GDP greater than that of the whole of Kenya.

I had a friend who spent 3 years in Kenya and admitted the place is more better organised that Nigeria. He still says Nigeria is richer

I also met a Kenyan lady (well cultured) who was in town for 2 weeks. Unfortunately, she did not go round

She had a few complaints about Nigeria especially the unfriendliness of Nigerians who were impatient because of her accent

We had to bail her out

That's when richness become useless then, if all indications of being rich suggests otherwise...
But Nigerians have the funniest accents, they always sound like comedians...

Ngara Civil servants quarters

Stima village &Ngong

grandstar:
Kenya maybe better managed does not make it richer than Nigeria though.

Cameroon may have light 24/7 does not make it richer than Nigeria.

Rwanda may have a National carrier does not make it richer than Nigeria

Statistics still show that Nigeria's per capita income is still higher than Kenya.

Nigeria's case is like that of Malaysia and Taiwan.

Taiwan is much richer than Malaysia but not well run. They say in Asia if you want to sack a lazy employee and don't know how to go about it, simply say he is transferred to Taipei and he will quit immediately.

Despite all that, Taiwan is still much richer than Malaysia.

Lagos state on it's own has a GDP greater than that of the whole of Kenya.

I had a friend who spent 3 years in Kenya and admitted the place is more better organised that Nigeria. He still says Nigeria is richer

I also met a Kenyan lady (well cultured) who was in town for 2 weeks. Unfortunately, she did not go round

She had a few complaints about Nigeria especially the unfriendliness of Nigerians who were impatient because of her accent

We had to bail her out

You're late to the party. We exhaustively concluded your REAL GDP is max 220 bn USD. Your stats Chief, Yemi Kale has for years taken you on a very cruel ride to lala land!
THE TRUTH IS YOU SIMPLY DON'T PRODUCE ANYTHING! We looked at critical consumption data and even did a sectoral breakdown of your economy.
All your stats, agriculture, ICT,construction etc,etc read more like Uganda or Zambia,nigga! Do this:look at the countries you supposedly group with on the global GDP per capita list and compare the following-steel/electrical use/vehicles per thousand/meat and milk consumption per capita and see the truth.
Prof Johnson Falade was right when he said your REAL GDP PER CAPITA WAS ONLY 1154 USD IN 2011. Mind you this was 2011 way before your recession, so its even lower now.
That comment on accent is ho babble,irrelevant feminine noise to which many of you are addicted as we've repeatedly seen.

Dar es salaam Tanzania

kikuyu1:


You're late to the party. We exhaustively concluded your REAL GDP is max 220 bn USD. Your stats Chief, Yemi Kale has for years taken you on a very cruel ride to lala land!
THE TRUTH IS YOU SIMPLY DON'T PRODUCE ANYTHING! We looked at critical consumption data and even did a sectoral breakdown of your economy.
All your stats, agriculture, ICT,construction etc,etc read more like Uganda or Zambia,nigga! Do this:look at the countries you supposedly group with on the global GDP per capita list and compare the following-steel/electrical use/vehicles per thousand/meat and milk consumption per capita and see the truth.
Prof Johnson Falade was right when he said your REAL GDP PER CAPITA WAS ONLY 1154 USD IN 2011. Mind you this was 2011 way before your recession, so its even lower now.
That comment on accent is ho babble,irrelevant feminine noise to which many of you are addicted as we've repeatedly seen.

Though you made a lot of strong points, it does not still change things.

Crude oil, which is basically the foundation of the country gives it a heads up. If oil revenue was to disappear today, the country will be in crisis but I doubt it will hit the disastrous figures you gave.

When you look at the Gulf Arab states, they may lack the similar stats of European economies with similar or even lower GDP's. The oil industry has played a disproportionate influence in their economies

Kur17:


That's when richness become useless then, if all indications of being rich suggests otherwise...
But Nigerians have the funniest accents, they always sound like comedians...

I am speaking without sentiments and your points are noted. Useless is a strong and disparaging word.

Also, it was rude the way she was treated because of her accent. I wasn't praising it.

She was really getting frustrated but with our help, she had a wonderful time here only she did not go out.

Dar es salaam,Tanzania

grandstar:


Though you made a lot of strong points, it does not still change things.

Crude oil, which is basically the foundation of the country gives it a heads up. If oil revenue was to disappear today, the country will be in crisis but I doubt it will hit the disastrous figures you gave.

When you look at the Gulf Arab states, they may lack the similar stats of European economies with similar or even lower GDP's. The oil industry has played a disproportionate influence in their economies

Irrelevant! They're a world away from you. This is your real economy;

Again reading thro the comments of your guys explain why Nigeria is the butt of jokes globally. Zero Critical thinking.

We've looked at Nigeria budget - that include revenues - both at state and federal level - and the difference btw Nigeria and kenya came down to few billion dollars.Well I think you should I have quit at that point. You see the budget consist of revenue+ debt/deficit financing - and of course how realistic those projections are.

I did look at you internally generated revenue and I was shocked!

In 2017 - Nigeria Federal IFIS - collected about 4 trillion Naira with 1.4 trillion coming from petro-dollars - in total taxes it collected - is mere 12-13B dollars - with 1/3 of it's coming from oil.In 2017 - All the Nigeria states collected just slightly less than 1 trillion Naira - with Lagos collecting 1/3 of that - that is another 3B dollars - with Lagos collecting about 1B dollars.[/b]

In total - Nigeria's states and federal gov - collected taxes worth 15-16b dollars (depending on which exchange rate one uses).

In 2017- Kenya Revenue Authority - collected 14B dollars...and all counties combined collected (from levies & fees) around 1b dollars..

So in conclusion..Nigeria the giant of 200M people with supposedly 500B dollar economy grin grin manage to collect as many taxes ($15B) as kenya the dwarft of 50M people with 88B economy grin - and about 4.5B of that from oil.

So if you remove oil - nigeria total taxes is about $10B - against kenya's $15B grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin. The paper tiger can only raise about the same tax (minus oil) that Tanzania raise...whose GDP is 10 times lower than Nigeria - I mean over-cooked GDP.

Btw,naira to usd is 370. Read the whole thing twice and see Prof Falade was right! [b]If you can come up with reliable economic stats we can discuss.

kikuyu1:


Irrelevant! They're a world away from you. This is your real economy;

Again reading thro the comments of your guys explain why Nigeria is the butt of jokes globally. Zero Critical thinking.

We've looked at Nigeria budget - that include revenues - both at state and federal level - and the difference btw Nigeria and kenya came down to few billion dollars.Well I think you should I have quit at that point. You see the budget consist of revenue+ debt/deficit financing - and of course how realistic those projections are.

I did look at you internally generated revenue and I was shocked!

In 2017 - Nigeria Federal IFIS - collected about 4 trillion Naira with 1.4 trillion coming from petro-dollars - in total taxes it collected - is mere 12-13B dollars - with 1/3 of it's coming from oil.In 2017 - All the Nigeria states collected just slightly less than 1 trillion Naira - with Lagos collecting 1/3 of that - that is another 3B dollars - with Lagos collecting about 1B dollars.[/b]

In total - Nigeria's states and federal gov - collected taxes worth 15-16b dollars (depending on which exchange rate one uses).

In 2017- Kenya Revenue Authority - collected 14B dollars...and all counties combined collected (from levies & fees) around 1b dollars..

So in conclusion..Nigeria the giant of 200M people with supposedly 500B dollar economy grin grin manage to collect as many taxes ($15B) as kenya the dwarft of 50M people with 88B economy grin - and about 4.5B of that from oil.

So if you remove oil - nigeria total taxes is about $10B - against kenya's $15B grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin. The paper tiger can only raise about the same tax (minus oil) that Tanzania raise...whose GDP is 10 times lower than Nigeria - I mean over-cooked GDP.

Btw,naira to usd is 370. Read the whole thing twice and see Prof Falade was right! [b]If you can come up with reliable economic stats we can discuss.

Well explained.. Nigeria leadership is doing allot of disservice to its people,, making them believe in things that are nonexistent, ...how would they know how much GDP per capita they worth if even the last census records was manipulated

Lying at the far end of Nkrumah road in Mombasa CBD and sitting on the edge of a giant coral reef is the mighty and historical Fort Jesus Mombasa. The massive and gigantic fort built by the Portuguese in 1593-1596 is one of the most visited and famous Mombasa tourist attractions.

Fort Jesus Mombasa showcases Portuguese military power and is a present day evidence of the struggle to take over and control the island of Mombasa. Fort Jesus changed hands severally; it was initially occupied by Portuguese, taken over by the Arabs and eventually the British who later used the fort as a prison in the colonial times until 1958 when it was declared a historical monument. In 2011, Fort Jesus Mombasa received a major boost and international recognition when it was declared a UNESCO World Heritage Site.

Obi1kenobi:


No. I agreed no such thing. It seems you've now evolved from misrepresenting positions, to outright fabricating them. All because you don't know the difference between autonomy and independence.

Maradona would envy your dribbling skills.
You started by saying Hong Kong never[/b]wanted anything to do with China. Later you claimed you never said so.After your lie was pointed out, you came back to say [b]you had made concessions on your wild generalization.Now that lie is just "an oversight". Laughable. Now you are subtly denying that again. The question is ,do you still stand on your once self-corrected claim that Hong Kong never wanted anything to do with China? Please take away the ambiguity.
And yes autonomy is synonymous with independence. But I was careful to use the term "for all intents and purposes" when referring to Hong Kong. Why?Because it functions as an independent country with its own constitution, economy, currency and relatively free press(which ranks far higher than China's) and representation at the Olympics. But point out where I said Hong Kong is independent since this "autonomy is independence" is the only fight you got left. I never said Hong Kong was independent,so what's your argument. Apparently, you are the one who didn't understand what autonomy is. If you did you wouldn't have made the statement below:

Obi1kenobi (m ):
The point is the
overwhelming majority of Hong Kong citizens have
pushed for its autonomy from Mainland China and
this massive support is the reason Hong Kong
remains a special administrative region.

Hong Kong citizens have not pushed for its autonomy. It has been autonomous since the British left.And no,that massive support by the citizens is not the reason it is an administrative region. It is so because the British negotiated a 50year autonomy for Hong Kong.

[s]1) That was not the argument. The argument was originally about the fact that smaller nations are not driven by the same vain ambitions as big nations, and have no reason to "envy" them as you claim. Everything else about Taiwan, Hong Kong etc were tangential to that central point.[/s]

Maradona again. The argument was if Hong Kong never wanted to have anything to do with China or not.That was what interested me and that was the first thing I bolded in your initial post. The second argument is your puerile claim that no country was more corrupt than Nigeria no matter what Transparency International or anyone else said. You have a knack for forgetting things quickly.. And yes--although this is just a personal way of seeing things--Taiwan has many reasons to envy China.Did you know that the government that runs Taiwan today used to run the whole of China? They were kicked out of mainland China by the communists who now run China. Until recently many Taiwanese harboured the belief that they could one day win back China. Over 50% of Taiwanese saw themselves as Chinese. But what can they do but to accept cold comfort and move on.Today many of them want Chinese citizenship. That's curious.China has since progressed from being a cesspool in the 70s to arguably the world's strongest nation.

2) I harboured an erroneous notion about Hong Kong before researching polling data about independence support, and didn't even recall I typed that wrong notion in my post. It was an oversight, rather than a "lie" - it would make no sense to lie about something when your post on it remains in plain sight for all to see. You have abandoned trying to make sense with cogent arguments and kept on trying to score points with that oversight in your desperation. An oversight that is hardly central to the point I was making. You instead go on wild tangents that have no relevance to a point, all to misdirect from the simple fact you were wrong about a point. This is why several posts later, you can't concede that your earlier dismissive, smug claim that independence and autonomy are the same thing was wrong.

It's a good thing this argument has pushed you to make some research and concede on your earlier generalization about Hong Kong. That's my aim from the beginning. Case closed on that affair. Good boy Next time do your research and be sure before you say things. Only a mad man would put the cart before the horse.

Taiwan hasn't declared independence because China has explicitly threatened military force if it does so:
http://en.people.cn/200503/14/eng20050314_176746.html
Taiwan, a country of 1.6% of China's population has zero hope of defeating China in a military conflict. So Taiwan has learnt to go about its business without needlessly provoking China. This point has no relevance to the fact that Taiwan is independent "for all intents and purposes" and Hong Kong isn't. And has no relevance to the fact Taiwan rejects any union with China. And yes, Taiwan fears China. That doesn't mean it "envies" China. I feared the big bully in class when I was small. Doesn't mean I "envied" the halfwit.

In your own case [b]lie=oversight[/b]How can a man say something and later say "I never said so.",then say again, " Oh,I didn't remember I said so before. " and expect to be taken seriously. Come on!
I think I have done Justice to this. About bully thing---If you feared the big boy who bullied you in primary school,it was because it was clear to you, you stood no chance against him and inwardly no matter how small the desire-- you wanted to be strong and big too so you could defend yourself especially if there was nobody to defend you.Envy sets in especially if the other children in the class cuddled up to the big boy. He had something you could never have. Size and strength.

India has over 2,000 ethnic groups with Hindis (about 40%) being the biggest (all the rest are less than 10% like Bengalis, Punjabis, Gujaratis, Tamils etc). It's a very complex society and they've had a lot of internal strife and military conflicts, and still have tensions with Pakistan today. They're ahead of us because of better governance. Has nothing to do with the Europeans. We are the architects of our failures. Funny enough, the amount of aid Kenya and Ghana receive has a lot to do with how progressive they are. Ever wonder why Obama visited both countries, but not Nigeria, the "giant"?

This is weak.I already gave my thought on this and it's not clear to me if you have given your thought on the question I asked you. If India is ahead of Nigeria due to historical background concerning the formation of both countries according to me, which of course you are fighting tooth and nail to discredit, what accounts for the backwardness of say for example, Ghana and Kenya when compared with small and medium sized countries like Malaysia and Vietnam?
Is it because the former are black and not as smart as those 2nd world Asian countries?
Finally, since you have failed consistently to substantiate your fraudulent claim that Nigeria is the most corrupt country and to cite the fact that you are a Nigerian as your reason,I think I will let you rest on that case.It's clear that was another of your famous generalizations or just another " oversight ".
And I don't know when an American president visiting a country means that country is progressive. Even Clinton visited Nigeria.

grandstar:


Though you made a lot of strong points, it does not still change things.

Crude oil, which is basically the foundation of the country gives it a heads up. If oil revenue was to disappear today, the country will be in crisis but I doubt it will hit the disastrous figures you gave.

When you look at the Gulf Arab states, they may lack the similar stats of European economies with similar or even lower GDP's. The oil industry has played a disproportionate influence in their economies

Be careful with that old goat.He is seriously bitter about this GDP thing. He will try to drag you down to his level and then attack you with experience. If you removed tea and coffee from Kenyan economy, what would be left.It's why they would rather starve and lynch people for stealing maize than trying to grow more food crops.

grandstar:


Though you made a lot of strong points, it does not still change things.

Crude oil, which is basically the foundation of the country gives it a heads up. If oil revenue was to disappear today, the country will be in crisis but I doubt it will hit the disastrous figures you gave.

When you look at the Gulf Arab states, they may lack the similar stats of European economies with similar or even lower GDP's. The oil industry has played a disproportionate influence in their economies

Here's what happened when we looked at your agriculture.
First I when I said Nigeria GDP was over-cooked this was merely an hunch based on all COMMONSENSE - but the more I digged in the more I was convinced it was totally over-baked.Okay I guess all that didn't prepare for the SHOCK I got 1hr ago when I actually took the trouble to check GDP figures from the SOURCE.

Okay so at it's apex (and now) - NIgeria GDP was 500B plus grin grin grin Impressive yeah.

Dig down a little bit.... Agriculture (farming), Fishing and Forestry accounts for what WHOOPING 40% of that GDP. Forget that Nigeria's agriculture long collapsed for a second...and actually the talk is to revive?

So just stop there. Nigeria Agri/Fishing & Forest is 40% of 500B. That is 200B dollars worth of GDP right there.

I am not sure which country in planet earth has really BIG AGRICLUTURE/FISHING/FORESTRY - But I started from US ( I think Netherland, Brazil, Russia, Canada etc are some good examples).

And you know when I checked..US's FARMING, FISHING AND FORESTRY HAS NEVER BEEN WORTH 200B dollars.

[img]https://policyinterns.files./2015/06/imagegen-ashx.png?w=374&h=299[/img]

In short Nigerians are telling us their AGRICULTURE/FISHING/FARMING IS WAY BIGGER THAN US. US that probably has 10 times Nigeria farm land...and 10 or 20 times it's productivity.

THIS IS TRULY NIGERIAN. I mean 401 Nigeria con. It's audacious. I'll next check Brazil Agriculture GDP - Netherlands? just for the laugh of it. Apparently Nigeria has the world BIGGEST agriculture and we didn't even know grin grin grin grin

And to make it even more hilarous - their biggest part of that agricluture is wait a minute PEANUTS grin grin and well some ground nuts, simsim and throw in some cassava, yam & well some cattle.

And just before we check say Brazil - which has huge agriculture - huge fishing - and Amazon forest - remember the peanut 200B worth of agriculture that Nigeria boast about IMPORT BASICALLY all it's food - rice, wheat, milk, tomato paste grin - name anything - the agriculture basically long collapsed - and all petrol dollars are used to import food.

Grandstar,without oil,I'm sorry to say there's very very little of anything and the little remaining is massively over exaggerated with quite comical scripting like your Stats head,Yemi Kale's unemployment figures. Read here his accounting methodology. This is a dude who'd been arrested for fraud anywhere else!

Using a new method, Nigeria's official statistics agency announced that unemployment stood at 7.5% for the first quarter of 2015. Previously it would have been 24.2%. Here's what has changed and why.

https://africacheck.org/factsheets/factsheet-how-nigerias-unemployment-rate-is-calculated/

See how he artificially reduced your unemployment rate yet your people risk rape/starvation/death and slavery crossing the Sahara.
At the same time Prof Falade,UN Habitat head,specifically stated back in 2011

TO HIM SHOWED THAT,LOW FIGURE FOR GDP PER CAPITA INCOME OF $1,154.

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/10/half-of-nigerians-live-in-slums-un/

We're growing in other ways too.

Kenya is at a demographic transformation stage. Fertility levels are declining gradually and Kenyans are living longer. There is reason for optimism that Kenya can benefit from a demographic dividend within 15 to 20 years. I[b]t is estimated that its working age population will grow to 73 per cent by 2050, bolstering the country’s GDP per capita 12 times higher than the present, with nearly 90 per cent of the working age in employment.[/b]

[url]https://www.nation.co.ke/oped/opinion/Demographic-Dividend-Youth-Kenya-Society-Population/440808-2840490-15hihh6z/index.html
[/url]
In my lifetime we'll be an Australia or at the very least a Malaysia.

Addendum:

Brazil's Agriculture ( Which in GDP mean ISIC divisions 1-5 -includes forestry, hunting, and fishing, as well as cultivation of crops and livestock production)

It's apex in contribution to GDP as you would expect in any country (not nigeria) was 26% of GDP in 1960s - and now it's 5.5% of GDP as of 2016. Naturally all countries except Nigeria will see contribution of agri to GDP reduce to nothing - because it's has little value ( all the peanuts in the world are worth maybe 1,000 iphones smiley). Kenya GDP /agri gdp has similarly dropped to now 23%...and dropping annually.

Brazil GDP is 1.8 trillion...and it's share of Agriculture is 99 billion dollars...about size of Kenya's GDP.

Nigeria are telling us their agriculture is TWICE BRAZIL, more than US and apparently it one of world hidden wonders.

Now just imagine how good brazil are in agriculture (think of sugar, soya beans, name it), think of Amazon forest and think all that is worth 99BILLION dollars..when measured by somebody with a brain cell...

Yemi Kale tells Nigerians - you have 200B dollars worth of Agriculture smiley I mean grin grin grin grin Granted...you have all the peanuts in the world grin but surely - you agriculture is bigger than US of A - bigger than Brazil?

Sorry but I haven't stopped laughing the last 2hrs...I think folks around me think I am crazy grin grin grin

I told you about Yemi didn't I? Any literate person would scream with laughter looking at these stats,really! Only illiterates or people suffering Borderline Personality Disorder would find them believable. Tell us;IS YOUR AGRICULTURE ANYWHERE NEAR BRAZILIAN LEVEL? Pls,tell us.

kikuyu1:


Here's what happened when we looked at your agriculture.
First I when I said Nigeria GDP was over-cooked this was merely an hunch based on all COMMONSENSE - but the more I digged in the more I was convinced it was totally over-baked.Okay I guess all that didn't prepare for the SHOCK I got 1hr ago when I actually took the trouble to check GDP figures from the SOURCE.

Okay so at it's apex (and now) - NIgeria GDP was 500B plus grin grin grin Impressive yeah.

Dig down a little bit.... Agriculture (farming), Fishing and Forestry accounts for what WHOOPING 40% of that GDP. Forget that Nigeria's agriculture long collapsed for a second...and actually the talk is to revive?

So just stop there. Nigeria Agri/Fishing & Forest is 40% of 500B. That is 200B dollars worth of GDP right there.

I am not sure which country in planet earth has really BIG AGRICLUTURE/FISHING/FORESTRY - But I started from US ( I think Netherland, Brazil, Russia, Canada etc are some good examples).

And you know when I checked..US's FARMING, FISHING AND FORESTRY HAS NEVER BEEN WORTH 200B dollars.

[img]https://policyinterns.files./2015/06/imagegen-ashx.png?w=374&h=299[/img]



Grandstar,without oil,I'm sorry to say there's very very little of anything and the little remaining is massively over exaggerated with quite comical scripting like your Stats head,Yemi Kale's unemployment figures. Read here his accounting methodology. This is a dude who'd been arrested for fraud anywhere else!

https://africacheck.org/factsheets/factsheet-how-nigerias-unemployment-rate-is-calculated/

See how he artificially reduced your unemployment rate yet your people risk rape/starvation/death and slavery crossing the Sahara.
At the same time Prof Falade,UN Habitat head,specifically stated back in 2011
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/10/half-of-nigerians-live-in-slums-un/

We're growing in other ways too.


[url]https://www.nation.co.ke/oped/opinion/Demographic-Dividend-Youth-Kenya-Society-Population/440808-2840490-15hihh6z/index.html
[/url]
In my lifetime we'll be an Australia or at the very least a Malaysia.

Addendum:



I told you about Yemi didn't I? Any literate person would scream with laughter looking at these stats,really! Only illiterates or people suffering Borderline Personality Disorder would find them believable. Tell us;IS YOUR AGRICULTURE ANYWHERE NEAR BRAZILIAN LEVEL? Pls,tell us.

Agriculture does not account for 40% of GDP. Nigerian is a lower middle income country. Such a very high Agric ratio are for low income countries like CHAD

agriculture: 21.6%
industry: 18.3%
services: 60.1% (2017 est.)

You are focused on the productivity of the farmers in Brazil. They are commercial farmers who sell almost all they grow,

Here, the farmers are mostly subsistence. They eat a large portion of what the grow. They also sell large amounts of foods primary they are a large army of small scale farmers.

I have nothing wrong with Kenya being richer than Nigeria but its not true.

Kiberia is the biggest and sadly the biggest testament to the size of Kenya's wealth.

To have the largest slum in Africa when compared to the size of Nairobi tells a lot.

I can even glean further Kenya's wealth from the suits you wear. Kenya's are of lower standard than Nigeria's.

grandstar:


Agriculture does not account for 40% of GDP. Nigerian is a lower middle income country. Such a very high Agric ratio are for low income countries like CHAD

agriculture: 21.6%
industry: 18.3%
services: 60.1% (2017 est.)

You are focused on the productivity of the farmers in Brazil. They are commercial farmers who sell almost all they grow,

Here, the farmers are mostly subsistence. They eat a large portion of what the grow. They also sell large amounts of foods primary they are a large army of small scale farmers.

I have nothing wrong with Kenya being richer than Nigeria but its not true.

Kiberia is the biggest and sadly the biggest testament to the size of Kenya's wealth.

To have the largest slum in Africa when compared to the size of Nairobi tells a lot.

I can even glean further Kenya's wealth from the suits you wear. Kenya's are of lower standard than Nigeria's.

The genius of Dangotelanders always shines through! Your sole collective talent is to constantly misunderstand the obvious-CONGRATUFCUKINGLATIONS!!?

Indeed according to Yemi Kale Nigeria agriculture is so huge its 6th globally as of 2017 just below China,Usa,India, Brazil and Indonesia.Note those countries in terms of land mass are like 10 nigerias.Note those countries appear in top exporters of agricultural products.Nigeria compete with bottom 10 in africa agriculture exports.Nigeria apparently has a hidden gem producing yams,cassava and millet worth 80b dollars now..with high of 100b few years ago.With just 0.9m km sq they are neck and neck with Brazil,India, China and USA with rougly 9m sq kms each.The nearest they can compare is Indonesia with 2m sqm kms.And 60% of nigeria is semi arid North.Please cook if you need to but dont overdo it.That is why nigeria is capital of poverty.Nigeria are desperately looking for zim white farmers to resuscitate their farming as they try to diversify .Their agriculture died in 1970s..but like any poor nigeria con job their gov is claiming despite being 10 times less than brazil they neck to neck output wise..step aside israel or netherlands...here come nigeria the garden of eden.Turning 0.4m sqm of land farmed exclusively on low dollar value crops like yams and sorghum into 100b dollars.Obviously those whove gone to nigeria will tell you of thousand of acres of fallow land like no where in earth.Everyone in 70s basically ran to towns to partake in oil money.Well that is just nigeria wash wash tech..turning a dollar to a million..with special chemical that you need to buy.Never mind most of oil money is used to import food including tomato paste..11b dollar spend to annual import just rice, fish and sugar.

rvp2018:
Indeed according to Yemi Kale Nigeria agriculture is so huge its 6th globally as of 2017 just below China,Usa,India, Brazil and Indonesia.Note those countries in terms of land mass are like 10 nigerias.Note those countries appear in top exporters of agricultural products.Nigeria compete with bottom 10 in africa agriculture exports.Nigeria apparently has a hidden gem producing yams,cassava and millet worth 80b dollars now..with high of 100b few years ago.With just 0.9m km sq they are neck and neck with Brazil,India, China and USA with rougly 9m sq kms each.The nearest they can compare is Indonesia with 2m sqm kms.And 60% of nigeria is semi arid North.Please cook if you need to but dont overdo it.That is why nigeria is capital of poverty.Nigeria are desperately looking for zim white farmers to resuscitate their farming as they try to diversify .Their agriculture died in 1970s..but like any poor nigeria con job their gov is claiming despite being 10 times less than brazil they neck to neck output wise..step aside israel or netherlands...here come nigeria the garden of eden.Turning 0.4m sqm of land farmed exclusively on low dollar value crops like yams and sorghum into 100b dollars.Obviously those whove gone to nigeria will tell you of thousand of acres of fallow land like no where in earth.Everyone in 70s basically ran to towns to partake in oil money.Well that is just nigeria wash wash tech..turning a dollar to a million..with special chemical that you need to buy.Never mind most of oil money is used to import food including tomato paste..11b dollar spend to annual import just rice, fish and sugar.

Dangoteland got jokes ! They're still claiming that 40% agro sector of GDP.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Nigeria#/issues/all

Sometimes, I honest think these guys need national prayers and therapy including MASS treatment to dispense with the demon of dishonesty or Borderline Personality Disorder that has possessed so many of them.
Tbh,IMO its why they can even see straight: they simply will not. Ati,yams,kola nuts and peanuts worth 200 bm USD! I'm still laughing, HAHAHA!! And they truly imagine WE'RE ACTUALLY ENVIOUS! I doubt even King Solomon could deliver them from their deep seated issues.

The min of agrucluture when asked for stats quoted indexmulli or was it cia.These guys cannot are fed on kool aid.Only those who've gone abroad know the country is cesspool.Those are the reasonable ones.Those that have lived in nigeria cannot be helped.even lazy tz looks nicer to the cesspoool

NigeriaIsDoomed:
illiterate and jobless aggressive lazy idiotic pigs of Kibera slum, true true una joblessness no get part 2

am not a frequent visitor here but I've noticed you are dumb

blackboys:
am not a frequent visitor here but I've noticed you are dumb

aggressive idiotic mumu illiterate pig!

NairobiWalker:


Ouch! Idiot shoots himself in the leg!

he couldn't even recognize his siblings in that pic.mwiba wa kujichoma

TayserMahiri:


The second photo was taken in Nigeria during the Biafra war. The third one just recently in Boko Haram's territory in the hotbed north. No disrespect to the unfortunate kids.

I told you desperation has killed a few people and you might be next

thats exactly how suicide bombing started

grandstar:


Agriculture does not account for 40% of GDP. Nigerian is a lower middle income country. Such a very high Agric ratio are for low income countries like CHAD

agriculture: 21.6%
industry: 18.3%
services: 60.1% (2017 est.)

You are focused on the productivity of the farmers in Brazil. They are commercial farmers who sell almost all they grow,

Here, the farmers are mostly subsistence. They eat a large portion of what the grow. They also sell large amounts of foods primary they are a large army of small scale farmers.

I have nothing wrong with Kenya being richer than Nigeria but its not true.

Kiberia is the biggest and sadly the biggest testament to the size of Kenya's wealth.

To have the largest slum in Africa when compared to the size of Nairobi tells a lot.

I can even glean further Kenya's wealth from the suits you wear. Kenya's are of lower standard than Nigeria's.

I don't know where he gets his figure of 40% from. Agriculture contributes about 20%to Nigeria's GDP. Meanwhile in Kenya, agriculture is recorded to contribute 36% of their inflated GDP of $75bn.That's more like $25bn.By contrast, Argentina, a big economy with advanced agricultural sectors makes just $32 bn or thereabout from agriculture. Something does not add up there.How can Kenya, a country that can't grow enough crops to feed its people make something so close to Argentina in terms of dollar value?

obaaderemi:
Maradona would envy your dribbling skills.
You started by saying Hong Kong never[/b]wanted anything to do with China. Later you claimed you never said so.After your lie was pointed out, you came back to say [b]you had made concessions on your wild generalization.Now that lie is just "an oversight". Laughable. Now you are subtly denying that again. The question is ,do you still stand on your once self-corrected claim that Hong Kong never wanted anything to do with China? Please take away the ambiguity.

No ambiguity exists. You pretend it does, so you can rehash the point again and again. I long conceded that poll numbers show less Hong Kong people are inclined towards independence than those favouring the union with China.

And yes autonomy is synonymous with independence. But I was careful to use the term "for all intents and purposes" when referring to Hong Kong. Why?Because it functions as an independent country with its own constitution, economy, currency and relatively free press(which ranks far higher than China's) and representation at the Olympics. But point out where I said Hong Kong is independent since this "autonomy is independence" is the only fight you got left. I never said Hong Kong was independent,so what's your argument. Apparently, you are the one who didn't understand what autonomy is. If you did you wouldn't have made the statement below:

How many days of preparing this response and this was the best you could do? Firstly, the emboldened in disingenuous horseshiit. You said and I quote:

And my friend, when you use the word "Autonomy" in politics you are referring to independence.

That is a generalized comment. You weren't referring to Hong Kong alone (in which case you'd still be wrong). Even in this very post, you have continued with the line that autonomy and independence are synonymous, while in another breath earlier, trying to contest my claim that Taiwan is independent. And you were talking about Maradona? I'd have said you have Maradonaesque dribbling skills, but dribbling yourself is more clumsiness than technical excellence in dribbling. Had you not added "in politics", your comment might have made sense. In several uses of "autonomy" outside geopolitics, it can be used in the same context as independence. In politics, there is not a single sovereign, independent republic on earth referred to as autonomous, and there is not a single autonomous territory on earth referred to as independent. But keep dribbling yourself.

Hong Kong citizens have not pushed for its autonomy. It has been autonomous since the British left.And no,that massive support by the citizens is not the reason it is an administrative region. It is so because the British negotiated a 50year autonomy for Hong Kong.

I'm guessing you were in a coma during the Hong Kong protests of 2014 where hundreds of thousands marched on the streets. Hong Kong's retention of its privileges depends on vigilant observation of China's overreach. China has already violated a number of provisions of the Sino-British treaty, but it's in a position to bully Hong Kong, so they can't do anything about it.

Maradona again. The argument was if Hong Kong never wanted to have anything to do with China or not.That was what interested me and that was the first thing I bolded in your initial post. The second argument is your puerile claim that no country was more corrupt than Nigeria no matter what Transparency International or anyone else said. You have a knack for forgetting things quickly.. And yes--although this is just a personal way of seeing things--Taiwan has many reasons to envy China.Did you know that the government that runs Taiwan today used to run the whole of China? They were kicked out of mainland China by the communists who now run China. Until recently many Taiwanese harboured the belief that they could one day win back China. Over 50% of Taiwanese saw themselves as Chinese. But what can they do but to accept cold comfort and move on.Today many of them want Chinese citizenship. That's curious.China has since progressed from being a cesspool in the 70s to arguably the world's strongest nation.

If you thought that was the crux of the argument, you have attention deficit issues. That was where the argument got sidetracked into a tedious back-and-forth about Chinese geopolitics, but was hardly the actual point. What's my business with China? I was refuting the absurd claim that every small country just wants to be like all the big countries, nevermind that many of such small countries are willing to die to free themselves from the big countries. That is what the argument has been about and addressed to the vain, nationalistic egos of many chest-beating Nigerians who think many African countries give a shiit about their country's size.
Taiwan's long past history with China is irrelevant to the aspirations of Taiwanese today. Run around in these circles all you want: the fact remains a plurality of Taiwanese citizens are very proud of their country and fiercely protective of their Taiwanese identity and don't give a shiit about China.

This is weak.I already gave my thought on this and it's not clear to me if you have given your thought on the question I asked you. If India is ahead of Nigeria due to historical background concerning the formation of both countries according to me, which of course you are fighting tooth and nail to discredit, what accounts for the backwardness of say for example, Ghana and Kenya when compared with small and medium sized countries like Malaysia and Vietnam?
Is it because the former are black and not as smart as those 2nd world Asian countries?
Finally, since you have failed consistently to substantiate your fraudulent claim that Nigeria is the most corrupt country and to cite the fact that you are a Nigerian as your reason,I think I will let you rest on that case.It's clear that was another of your famous generalizations or just another " oversight ".
And I don't know when an American president visiting a country means that country is progressive. Even Clinton visited Nigeria.

Maybe. Sub-saharan Africans mean/median IQ test scores consistently rank at the bottom of all global territories evaluated.
Why not compare India or Indonesia's development to their small neighbors like Nepal, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Myanmar etc? Wriggle around all you want, population should not be an excuse. There are many small failed nations in Africa and around the globe. Nigeria's failures might be rationalized with partial attributions to its political complexity, but there is so much more that explains the rot.

If Nigeria, the "giant" had any real regional credibility (since apparently everyone is so envious of us as you keep telling the Kenyans), we should be regarded more seriously for American leaders to pay us a visit, don't ya think? Bush or Obama had no interest in visiting Nigeria for the same reasons they don't visit Somalia or Sudan? American Presidents don't go the Middle East without visiting Saudi Arabia and Israel. If they don't care to visit Nigeria, maybe we should stop beating our chests about how relevant we are in Africa.

Kenya vs Zimbabwe


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYf23yzXM9k

Kenya blank Tanzania in U-20 opener



Kenya’s junior
volleyball team on
Sunday started
their campaign in
the U-20 Africa
Cup of Nations
Championship on
a brilliant note by
beating Tanzania
3-0 (25-15, 25-21,
25-11) at the
Kasarani Indoor Arena.
The Kenyan juniors led the match from start to finish, cruising to a
16-9 lead in the first set and allowing the neighbours only six more
points as they neatly tied up that set with a 25-15 score.
Tanzania offered some commendable pushback in the second set,
and were trailing 8-6 and 16-13 at the first and second technical
timeouts before ultimately succumbing to a narrow 25-21 loss.
The hosts continued in their winning ways in the third set, leading
8-4 at the first technical timeout and never looking back on their
way to a convincing 25-11 finish.
8/26/2018 Kenya blank Tanzania in U-20 opener - Daily Nation
https://www.nation.co.ke/sports/Kenya-blank-Tanzania-in-U20-opener/1090-4729886-41huj6/index.html 3/9
Team captain Mercy Likhayo was breathless but elated after the
match, saying that that was the good start that she and her fellow
team mates had prayed for throughout the week.
Kenya's Pamela Owino (left) spikes the ball against Tanzania's
Stephano Edwai (right) and Jovin Rutashobo during their U-20 Africa
Cup of Nations Championship match on August 26, 2018 at the
Kasarani Indoor Arena. PHOTO | CHRIS OMOLLO | NATION MEDIA
GROUP
“We didn’t want to lose this first match. We wanted to start
building momentum from the first game and I am happy that has
happened. Our focus turns to the next one against Nigeria which
we must also win,” said the teenage volleyball sensation, who turns
out for Lugulu Girls High School.
Kenya were drawn in a relatively easy Pool A alongside Tanzania,
Nigeria and Cameroon, thereby evading seven-time champions
Egypt, who were cast in Pool B together with Uganda, Mauritius,
Democratic Republic of Congo and Rwanda.
They will face Nigeria in their next match scheduled for
Wednesday afternoon.
The drawing of lots took place on Saturday evening in the presence
of CAVB president Amr Elwani and representatives from all the
eight participating countries.
8/26/2018 Kenya blank Tanzania in U-20 opener - Daily Nation
https://www.nation.co.ke/sports/Kenya-blank-Tanzania-in-U20-opener/1090-4729886-41huj6/index.html 4/9
In the first match of the day, Democratic Republic of Congo had
cruised to a straight sets win over Mauritius after beating them 25-
23, 25-18 and 25-23.
This is the third time that Kenya is competing in the U-20 Africa
Cup of Nations following their third place finish in both the 2008
and 2015 editions.
MONDAY'S FIXTURES
Nigeria v Cameroon (2pm)
Congo v Egypt (4pm)
Rwanda v Mauritius (6pm)

Obababoon patriotism is not substitute of facts. If you check countries that Nigeria allege to compete with in the world - they are 10 times larger in land mass, have more advanced agriculture and are noted exporters agri products. Your claim to have Brazil agriculture - a country that has agriculture GDP value of 80-90B - and export around 70B of agriclutural exports - including the sugar and soya beans you are taking in Nigeria. You claim to be near Indonesia - a country that export 35B dollars of agricultural goods - include the rice and INDOMIE you're so much in love with .

You claim to have 80-90B worth of agriculture - all consisting of low-dollar value crops like yams - and yet export very little (few cocoa beans,shrimps and rubber) - and you spend nearly 1/3 of all OIL DOLLARS to import food - like Indomie from Indonesia, Sugar from Brazil, Wheat from Russia, Corn from US and tomato paste .

Even looking at figures and you 200M population - how do manage to consume 80B dollars worth of yams annually . China and India with their 1.3B people cannot consume all that food that your allegedly produce and consume in your own gardens Brazil has about your population - they consume around 20B dollars of their agriclutural products and export the rest.

Obviously this is over-cooked fufu that Yemi Kale and you are trying to pass as GDP .

I was expecting you'd defend Nigeria over-cooked GDP sector by sector - but obviously you think you can defend it by attacking the credibilty of kenya's figures.

Let go there. Agriculture is indeed the mainstay of our economy and everything you see in Kenya has been built on the back of that sector.Its Kenya account for around 23-5% of GDP - right now that would be anything around 20B dollars. That is when it's strictly restricted to agri as per UN classification - however much of manufacturing is also agri-based and so are many things.

We produces 20B worth of agri output and export around 4B dollars. We are world leading exporters of tea, horticulture, flowers, nuts, coffee and many such goods. We have deficit in few foods - small deficit in maize , rice and wheat - .

I don't know much about Argentine (apart from their world class beef industry) - but looking at data - it agri is 6% of it's 640B GDP - that put it around 40B dollars. Or twice kenya. So you're wrong.

Mr Obababoon your patriotism on anything Nigeria is admirable but Nigeria requires honest conversation because it truly a shit hole - the world capital of absolute poverty - with nearly 70% of it's people living below 2 dollars a day!! You can cook your GDP (which is essentially OIL) but you cannot cook reality.

obaaderemi:
I don't know where he gets his figure of 40% from. Agriculture contributes about 20%to Nigeria's GDP. Meanwhile in Kenya, agriculture is recorded to contribute 36% of their inflated GDP of $75bn.That's more like $25bn.By contrast, Argentina, a big economy with advanced agricultural sectors makes just $32 bn or thereabout from agriculture. Something does not add up there.How can Kenya, a country that can't grow enough crops to feed its people make something so close to Argentina in terms of dollar value?

Tanzania Dar es salaam