Acts 10 vs 11-15 must have settled this,I guess?...we re no longer in the era of law bt of grace...so we re no longer slave to law anymore...and for the fact he sent the demons into those pigs makes other pigs unclean

tunary:
Islam is like cultism where one is not free to go out once you are in. as you know Muslims comment on Christian threads but Christians are not allowed to comment on theirs except you become a member. Islam is a problem

in islam moslem fight,kill and destroy for their god because theirs is a weak god .but in christianity you do not need to kill any body for insulting their God .all you need to do,is just give your life to God,and he will do the rest.

Akpacha:
Shebi person wan make comment on Islam post person most swear, y them no de ask pple to swear b4 making comments on Christian posts?

in christianity,their God knows everything

fineboynl:
are Christian allowed to eat pigs? pig is regarded as unclean animal. Jesus send demons into pig -


The demons begged Jesus, 'If you drive us out, send us into the herd of pigs.' He said to them, 'Go!' So they came out and went into the pigs, and the whole herd rushed down the steep bank into the lake and died in the water.
-- Matthew 8:28-34.


The old testament also condemned eating pig


And the pig, because it has a cloven hoof that is completely split, but will not regurgitate its cud; it is unclean for you. You shall not eat of their flesh, and you shall not touch their carcasses; they are unclean for you.
—  Leviticus 11:7–8

18 “You are no more intelligent than the others,” Jesus said to them. “Don't you understand? Nothing that goes into you from the outside can really make you unclean, 19 because it does not go into your heart but into your stomach and then goes on out of the body.” (In saying this, Jesus declared that all foods are fit to be eaten.)

20 And he went on to say, “It is what comes out of you that makes you unclean. 21 For from the inside, from your heart, come the evil ideas which lead you to do immoral things, to rob, kill, 22 commit adultery, be greedy, and do all sorts of evil things; deceit, indecency, jealousy, slander, pride, and folly— 23 all these evil things come from inside you and make you unclean.”

Sharpshooota:


This dude is a Yoruba Muslim derailing the thread

Pork meat have a maggot if you pour a real vodka on it and leave a while u see how it’s change to
Maggot
Pork meat it’s forbidden and it’s was writing bold in bible and Quran for true believer to forbid it

Na God words if we like we agree or not it up to those who admit and ignore

Fariq:


How to lie? How to insult Christian? Where and when let's see proof pls. Ramadan is month of quran. The majority of the teaching are Quran. So pls show us where when and video clip in the so called Southwest where in the last Ramadan a single imam was preaching how to lie, and how to insult Christians. I am waiting.



This is another issue different and not matter of insult. You considered our Jesus as clone and we will consider yours as clone also. Even the Bible itself to Muslim is God book which was altered by other pple. So Bible is not your book alone. You cannot claim we are misinterpreting your Bible when it's not yours.




Muslim don't insult Jesus get that. They may have quote a Bible verse that rediculed him. Example some Christian says he is god and he was crying calling God to save him on the Cross.

These are not insult. And it's not targeted at him but to does who taught he is god, here is he crying looking for God assistance.



So I need to search YouTube. In the other case I will use same Nairaland we are debating with to show you how Christians insult prophet Muhammad pbum.

Muslim don't insult Jesus because Islam regard Jesus as a prophet. Anyone insulting him is out of Islam. Sameway some Muslim insult prophet Muhammad pbum it takes them out of Islam.

Lolz, lolz, you are asking me of proof when i told you it happened in my area. Lolz.

Well i guess you people think other people are not listening when you people are having your discussion. Lolz

well can you swear with your quran that this your last Ramadan your imam didn't use to bible to justify your clone version of Jesus?

Lolz, you believe in which bible?

I guess you should search for those tread on nairaland that your Muslim created to justify that bible is not the word of God, but now you believe is the the word of God. Lolz.

How can you claim that it was alter and you still claim that it is the word of God? You guys keep contradicting yourself lolz.

You see where i Have problem with you people, you acknowledge that Jesus called on God in the bible, but fail to acknowledge that the same bible explain the reason why he say that, but you people won't see that because it won't suit your agenda.

Lolz, so tell me if that's not an insult. Lolz.

Peace

fineboynl:
are Christian allowed to eat pigs? pig is regarded as unclean animal. Jesus send demons into pig -


The demons begged Jesus, 'If you drive us out, send us into the herd of pigs.' He said to them, 'Go!' So they came out and went into the pigs, and the whole herd rushed down the steep bank into the lake and died in the water.
-- Matthew 8:28-34.


The old testament also condemned eating pig


And the pig, because it has a cloven hoof that is completely split, but will not regurgitate its cud; it is unclean for you. You shall not eat of their flesh, and you shall not touch their carcasses; they are unclean for you
—  Leviticus 11:7–8

Pretty sure peter ate pig in THAT vision
Also leviticus is old law
And bringing up the casting of demons u wee see wia d demons asked to be cast into the swines
Finally op if u have eaten gala then this question is baseless
Animals eat animals
Humans are higher animals whom God gave dominion over all earth
Use the word don't let the word use you

Firebomber:


Lolz, lolz, you are asking me of proof when i told you it happened in my area. Lolz.

Yes. If you cannot prove then it's is false until proven otherwise.

Well i guess you people think other people are not listening when you people are having your discussion. Lolz

well can you swear with your quran that this your last Ramadan your imam didn't use to bible to justify your clone version of Jesus?

Lolz, you believe in which bible?

I guess you should search for those tread on nairaland that your Muslim created to justify that bible is not the word of God, but now you believe is the the word of God. Lolz.

How can you claim that it was alter and you still claim that it is the word of God? You guys keep contradicting yourself lolz.

The Jesus we know is a prophet and that's the original Jesus in the eyes of God. There is nothing like contradiction about Bible. It was word of God that was altered by you guys. It contains word of God, word of historian and even pornography is inside.

You see where i Have problem with you people, you acknowledge that Jesus called on God in the bible, but fail to acknowledge that the same bible explain the reason why he say that, but you people won't see that because it won't suit your agenda.

What we are challenging is about begotten son. Because God does not begat. And that verse of begotten have been revoked as a concoction and fabrication by Christians of highest denominatios.

Lolz tell me if that's not an insult. Lolz.

Peace

That's what we called Religious comparative debate. Do you guys engage in that? No. What you do is insult.

modik:


Please clarify:

Which of the Ten commandments did Jesus change?

The ten commandments weren't changed, just compressed to 2 commandments by Jesus - Love God and Love your neighbour as yourself. I never referred to the 10 commandments, the law regarding eating unclean animals is not in the 10 commandments. What I meant are those extra laws given by moses, such as an eye for an eye, marrying more than 1 wife esp after divorce, not eating unclean animals etc. Those are the laws that were changed by Jesus, and He actually said that it was because God knew that the people were not ready to accept His actual laws that He diluted it in the 1st place. I'm not good with quoting scriptures tho, I just know my bible.

Fariq:


Yes. If you cannot prove then it's is false until proven otherwise.



The Jesus we know is a prophet and that's the original Jesus in the eyes of God. There is nothing like contradiction about Bible. It was word of God that was altered by you guys. It contains word of God, word of historian and even pornography is inside.

lolz, religious debate indeed.

Well, you are right i am wrong.

Bye, happy Sunday

Firebomber:


Lolz, just see your life, you are using only this tread to justify the action of your Muslim peacefulness, lolz, i guess i should you those Muslim thread that Christian dont comment on to justify that Christian dont insult Muslim. Lolz

I won't I use this thread when we are discussing about making it necessary to be a Muslim in order to comment on Islamic section.

Lolz maybe i to should say that Muslim dont comment on Christian tread that dont have any pastor or belief to twist and insult, what a shame.

Some may not call Jesus name but they can call apostle Paul name, lol hypocrite

When did Paul become Jesus. Who is Paul? Who send him?

so because you cannot identify Them make you generalize The as Christian? Hmm interesting.

Majority of whom on Nairaland that insult Muslims are Christians.

Lolz, trouble maker indeed Christian are not the one creating a tread and name it Jesus the slave of God, and started misquoteing Holy Bible to support it. Lolz,

All men are slave of God. And Bible says Jesus is a man. Bible called Jesus servent of God.

"isaabubakar"

Lolz, I never see the guy insulting Islam before, or was it because he is against APC. Lolz

But he claimed to be a Muslim. Using Islamic words where they should not be used.

fact is both Muslim and Christian are insulting each other.

Yes but u guys started it all and u are still take 90@% share.

Fariq:



It cannot be true. Show us your proof. One thing about you guys, u thought Jesus is for you alone. Hell no. If truly you listen to Islamic preachers u will have know dat a Muslim don't insult Jesus because that's one of the pillars that make his Faith.

So you can construct another lie, may be that Muslim insult Christians (dis 1 might sell). But Muslim insult Jesus is unsellable.

Try harder

Pls stop saying that it can not be true, I'm posting something I witness and happened in my school and you're telling me it can not be true are you alright? You think I'm lying or joking here?

Oga if you don't believe, you move on, I owe you no explanation.

Abeg make e end for here, no time.

tolexy007:



PROBLEM WITH YOU not PORK.. I remember wen I was in sch back then, in animal practical class, The man in charge told us that, If you have a pig farm, and your pigs are dirty that means u are the one that is dirty not the pig, because if u provide all the necessary things the pigs need for is relaxation in the farm, they will never b dirty. so Oga keep ur sermon to urself and eat a pork...

seconded, you are blessed bro, d farm head made us understand this too during my farm year, these ones don’t even eat rotten food, we feed them twice a day and clean their pen as often as necessary, antibiotics are administered too.

Fariq:


You're lying. No Imam will insult Jesus peace be upon him. Insulting Jesus take you out of Islam.

OK I Don hear you oga.

ola12:

The ten commandments weren't changed, just compressed to 2 commandments by Jesus - Love God and Love your neighbour as yourself. I never referred to the 10 commandments, the law regarding eating unclean animals is not in the 10 commandments. What I meant are those extra laws given by moses, such as an eye for an eye, marrying more than 1 wife esp after divorce, not eating unclean animals etc. Those are the laws that were changed by Jesus, and He actually said that it was because God knew that the people were not ready to accept His actual laws that He diluted it in the 1st place. I'm not good with quoting scriptures tho, I just know my bible.

You just clarified.

Based on your valid respose up there, isn't it worrisome that we all are defiant to the 4th law, which obviously wasn't changed by Christ, rather by a Christian sect as a mark of their global supremacy?

Check out the Fourth commandment which acknowledges God as creator of heaven and earth, being the most attacked and controversial law of the ten commandments.

Can you refer to Exedus 20:8-11 and react.

Propene:
PROBLEMS WITH PORK

1) A pig is a real garbage gut. It will eat anything including urine, excrement, dirt, decaying animal flesh, maggots, or decaying vegetables. They will even eat the cancerous growths off other pigs or animals.

2) The meat and fat of a pig absorbs toxins like a sponge. Their meat can be 30 times more toxic than beef or venison.

3) When eating beef or venison, it takes 8 to 9 hours to digest the meat so what little toxins are in the meat are slowly put into our system and can be filtered by the liver. But when pork is eaten, it takes only 4 hours to digest the meat. We thus get a much higher level of toxins within a shorter time.

4) Unlike other mammals, a pig does not sweat or perspire. Perspiration is a means by which toxins are removed from the body. Since a pig does not sweat, the toxins remain within its body and in the meat.

5) Pigs and swine are so poisonous that you can hardly kill them with strychnine or other poisons.

6) Farmers will often pen up pigs within a rattlesnake nest because the pigs will eat the snakes, and if bitten they will not be harmed by the venom.

7) When a pig is butchered, worms and insects take to its flesh sooner and faster than to other animal's flesh. In a few days the swine flesh is full of worms.

Swine and pigs have over a dozen parasites within them, such as tapeworms, flukes, worms, and trichinae. There is no safe temperature at which pork can be cooked to ensure that all these parasites, their cysts, and eggs will be killed.

9) Pig meat has twice as much fat as beef. A 3 oz T bone steak contains 8.5 grams of fat; a 3 oz pork chop contains 18 grams of fat. A 3 oz beef rib has 11.1 grams of fat; a 3 oz pork spare rib has 23.2 grams of fat.

10) Cows have a complex digestive system, having four stomachs. It thus takes over 24 hours to digest their vegetarian diet causing its food to be purified of toxins. In contrast, the swine's one stomach takes only about 4 hours to digest its foul diet, turning its toxic food into flesh.

11) The swine carries about 30 diseases which can be easily passed to humans. This is why God commanded that we are not even to touch their carcase (Leviticus 11:8 )

12) The trichinae worm of the swine is microscopically small, and once ingested can lodge itself in our intestines, muscles, spinal cord or the brain. This results in the disease trichinosis. The symptoms are sometimes lacking, but when present they are mistaken for other diseases, such as typhoid, arthritis, rheumatism, gastritis, MS, meningitis, gall bladder trouble, or acute alcoholism.

13) The pig is so poisonous and filthy, that nature had to prepare him a sewer line or canal running down each leg with an outlet in the bottom of the foot. Out of this hole oozes pus and filth his body cannot pass into its system fast enough. Some of this pus gets into the meat of the pig

Permission to share?

At OP......if the pork is well cooked and fried, then a good Christian will surely enjoy it with a bottle of cold beer.



Just so you know,
I love pork meat!

post=70827426:
Orisisri something!!

Do you grill pork meat as well.

I am so loving myself a plate of Melon pepper soup filled with pork meat and starch.

A pure Urhobo will understand.

DEHVEHLOP:
How can a good xtian eat human?








PIGGIES I know are from Nnamdi Kalu country

Please grow up

princeking2:
Okay. Have you not read that it is that which comes from a man that defiles a man? Eating pig does not make you unclean nor unrighteous. Your cleanliness came from the word of God and your righteousness is of God.
However, if you are surrounded by a group of baby Christians who are still struggling with the doctrine of righteousness and holiness, it is wise to keep away from it. So that your action won't cause them to backslide.
Please read the following bible passages.
Enjoy!

Matthew 15:11
Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.


1 Corinthians 8:9-13
But take heed lest by any means this liberty of yours become a stumblingblock to them that are weak.
For if any man see thee which hast knowledge sit at meat in the idol's temple, shall not the conscience of him which is weak be emboldened to eat those things which are offered to idols;
And through thy knowledge shall the weak brother perish, for whom Christ died?
But when ye sin so against the brethren, and wound their weak conscience, ye sin against Christ.
Wherefore, if meat make my brother to offend, I will eat no flesh while the world standeth, lest I make my brother to offend.

Today's Gospel of the Catholic church

chrish:



God bless you

God bless you too.

princeking2:
God bless you too.

Amen

Bible sef
Lots of contradicting verses...
Today it says don't eat or touch cos its uncean
Tomorrow it says not what enter ur mouth is unclean but what comes out...
That's why d followers bend the law to suit their desire..

princeking2:

Define tribalism? Can you locate Southeast on the map? Is tribe part of the writeup?
We call people like you #ebot in ibibio.
Next time, when you want to accuse someone of being tribalistic, ask yourself if you are one.

ette daka no ayen

chrish:


Amen

Where you in church today?

Fariq:


You're lying. No Imam will insult Jesus peace be upon him. Insulting Jesus take you out of Islam.

I have been following the discussion between you and Firebomber, just want to ask out of curiosity.... what is the meaning of the name Jesus.

Wilson125:
ette daka no ayen

Lol
Daa abadie?
Well done sir.

modik:


You just clarified.

Based on your valid respose up there, isn't it worrisome that we all are defiant to the 4th law, which obviously wasn't changed by Christ, rather by a Christian sect as a mark of their global supremacy?

Check out the Fourth commandment which acknowledges God as creator of heaven and earth, being the most attacked and controversial law of the ten commandments.

Can you refer to Exedus 20:8-11 and react.

You mean "Remember the sabbath day to keep it holy, 6 day you shall labour but the 7th day is the sabbath..."
Are you saying that sunday should not be the sabbath day?, I beg to differ. God did not specify the specific day whether sunday or saturday. We begin the week on monday, meaning we work from monday to the 6th day, which is saturday. Therefore the 7th day is sunday and should be the sabbath.

1 Timothy 4:3-4

modaink333:

18 “You are no more intelligent than the others,” Jesus said to them. “Don't you understand? Nothing that goes into you from the outside can really make you unclean, 19 because it does not go into your heart but into your stomach and then goes on out of the body.” (In saying this, Jesus declared that all foods are fit to be eaten.)

20 And he went on to say, “It is what comes out of you that makes you unclean. 21 For from the inside, from your heart, come the evil ideas which lead you to do immoral things, to rob, kill, 22 commit adultery, be greedy, and do all sorts of evil things; deceit, indecency, jealousy, slander, pride, and folly— 23 all these evil things come from inside you and make you unclean.”

OK how does having sex with a woman defy you?

Abeg if you no wan eat your own make you bring am

Romans 14:3