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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 12:50pm On Sep 15, 2018 |
komekn: NFF is not the only FA with controversy, stop shifting the fault to to them. And yes, some of Vicmo's behavior implied lack of commitment 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:51pm On Sep 15, 2018 |
Joebie: Talking of respecting what other people claim as their Identity. Will you also respect a particular region of the country's claim of Secessionists identity? 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 12:52pm On Sep 15, 2018 |
Why not? Modified As long as they are not trying to dispute others’ identity just to meet their political end. Mutual respect please. Icon4s: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:57pm On Sep 15, 2018 |
Joebie: I am Pro-Nigeria and an advocate of Unity. Just like I will not take some Igbo dialects dissociating themselves from the rest of the Igbo ethnic group I am also against the Secessionist moves by the Igbo ethnic group. Well, lets not derail this thread. Let's discuss football. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 12:58pm On Sep 15, 2018 |
See modified Icon4s: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by DrLikita12(f): 1:01pm On Sep 15, 2018 |
There are arguments on Nairaland and Facebook where people 'reject' claims that they are part of larger ethnic groups. Most of us outside of these ethnic groups do not know the history behind their claims so we do not know if these claims have some historical proof or if they are emotional reactions to events that occurred in the past. For example I used to follow a lady on Facebook who used to say she is Ika and not Igbo and people would keep arguing over this, some other people would also make similar statements. A man once said he is Okun not Yoruba during one of these arguments, another said he's Ikwerre and not Igbo. In any case, my point is that these people have the right to associate with whoever/whatever makes them feel comfortable and you cannot blame 'outsiders' who come away believing that Ikas and Ikwerres are not Igbos. It is the same way I don't appreciate being called Hausa when I introduce myself to people. I know how annoying it is so I try not to do it to other people. I think Komekn is coming from a similar place. If people say they're from village A it's annoying and sometimes rude to insist they are from village B. 2 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by rabzy: 1:01pm On Sep 15, 2018 |
Icon4s: This conversation will slowly devolve into something nasty and contentious which nairaland is rife with. It has always been simmering under the surface in many discussions and this is bringing it right into the open. Let's close this can of worms. Vicmo resignation should not kill this thread 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 1:02pm On Sep 15, 2018 |
Chrismario: Exactly what I was telling him.. Salah is currently having a fight with the Egyptian FA but he played and even scored in their last game. Ozil and Nainggolan retired from international football due to issue with their coaches and FA... Such things are quite common. Moses didn't say anything about an issue with the NFF and there's no evidence anywhere to suggest that there's one. Komekn just wanted to throw insults at the NFF as usual... This is d same man who has been telling us that the foreign born(queen boys precisely) are yet to play for us cus they haven't paid egunje to the NFF |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 1:03pm On Sep 15, 2018 |
rabzy: Bros, I have rested my case. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Farzat: 1:03pm On Sep 15, 2018 |
Icon4s: And to further prove his support, he said that he has spoken to some prominent citizens of Agbor and they all denied being Igbos. is his purpose for speaking to those prominent citizens simply to find out if they are lgbos? How can someone who claim to be connected to almost foreign born players and prominent citizens be bent to a tribal arguments on nairaland. Something must be wrong somewhere. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 1:03pm On Sep 15, 2018 |
That’s it!!! Modified My paternal cousins claim they are from Village A because it was a village our grandpa founded after migrating from Village B. However, we still claim Village B. They are mad that we claim Village B. What nonsense?! We respect that you claim Village A, respect ours. True story. DrLikita12: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 1:14pm On Sep 15, 2018 |
DrLikita12: Very simple answer to that. Divide and rule. Separate Lagos from the South West Region and in 40years time see if an Isale-Eko man's children will not denounce being Yoruba. For instance, The Ikwerre's didn't know they were not Igbos until Rivers state was carved out of the Former Eastern Region. Nigeria should forever remain thankful to Gen. Yakubu Gowon. He was really a man of foresight. I finally rest my case. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 1:21pm On Sep 15, 2018 |
That egunje talk na generalization abeg Some players are called up by merit. it depends largely on the coach than the NFF. Danielnino00: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by rabzy: 1:22pm On Sep 15, 2018 |
Icon4s: I wonder if you can, statements like your last sentence will make people come for you, they will sting and draw you out. Your firewood has ants and the lizards will come for them. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 1:25pm On Sep 15, 2018 |
rabzy: Hahahaha. Bros like I said . I am done, back to football. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by DrLikita12(f): 1:26pm On Sep 15, 2018 |
Icon4s: I understand that because I am interested in history -I am a reader and history interests me so I know a little about Nigerian history, the history of what is today known as Portharcourt, etc. The problem is not everyone is interested in history and not everyone who is interested has access to resources that would be helpful in studying such things. As a result, outsiders are more likely to believe what 'natives' of a region say. I agree with you on Gowon. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 1:27pm On Sep 15, 2018 |
wow Three pages for discussion of player tribes and state of origin. On a sports thread. Whether they are from Mars or deep within the waters of Neptune, inasmuch as they player for Nigeria, we expect their best and nothing less. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 1:28pm On Sep 15, 2018 |
So who is guilty of dividing the people in the North? Why are many people still calling all of them Hausa? The whites in America still know their different origins in terms of European nationalities. It’s simple teach it as a subject so people will have the knowledge. However, they still have the right to claim whatever they want to claim. Icon4s: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 1:30pm On Sep 15, 2018 |
komekn:Nothing you said here justifies what you stated about "people from that part of the country" However, doesn't Moses have ties to that part of the country? Shouldn't the team be more wary of Moses who allegedly has some contact with Benin? Or does his being UK-bred make him unAfrican? The rest of your statement is laced with ignorance as well. Why do Africans always find the negative in their cultural and religious practices? So, because Senegalese players were practicing certain rituals that white people are exposed to, it is obviously juju and that is so bad? What is the difference between African Traditional Religion and the white man's Christianity? Why do black people look upon their own religious practices as evil and negative while the rituals done by the whites is not evil? The consecration of the body of Christ in the Catholic Church is a ritual, but nobody looks upon it as evil, the pouring of anointing oil on heads is a ritual, but nobody calls it 'diabolic', but an African man takes out some powder and a calabash and boom! He is diabolical. I am sorry for you people and this warped sense of thinking. It is one of the great reasons why the black man will forever remain in the shadows, because h has no sense of self and has adopted that his ways and his culture are evil and whatever the white man does must be right. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 1:30pm On Sep 15, 2018 |
Once in a while we digress. Sanity will return — that’s what is unique about this thread. darkelf: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by DrLikita12(f): 1:32pm On Sep 15, 2018 |
Joebie: Thank you, it can be so disrespectful. I personally try to respect people's claims whether I agree or disagree with them. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 1:32pm On Sep 15, 2018 |
Whites are very spirtistic as well. Occultism is a form of it. safarigirl: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 1:33pm On Sep 15, 2018 |
Joebie: I say make I go una dey draw me back again. OK, on people of the North, have you really been close to a Tiv, Birom, Jukun, Idoma, Angas, Igala, Gbagi, or Shendam man? If not look for any around you and called him a "malam". Then come back here and testify. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 1:36pm On Sep 15, 2018 |
True. Why is there so much confusion about people’s identity even in the North? Is there a conspiracy there as well? The problem is if we really want to be united we have to develop a genuine interest in others. These things need to be taken seriously in our schools. However, people have the right to identify with wherever they choose. DrLikita12: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 1:36pm On Sep 15, 2018 |
komekn:my mother is Anioma, she is very much Igbo and so are her people who identify so. These same Anioma people are the ones agitating for a state separate from the rest of Delta, and they want this state to be joined with the East as an Eastern State. That your last line get comma 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 1:39pm On Sep 15, 2018 |
Joebie: If Rohr were to be Enrique wey left Jordi Alba out of Spanish team nko? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 1:39pm On Sep 15, 2018 |
Farzat: I have always told u to stop taking that boy seriously. Take, with a pinch of salt, what ever comes from that boy. The boy na big wash. Any thing wey we mention here, u go see him jump out claiming to be the master where as, he doesn't even have the slightest idea what that is all about. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 1:39pm On Sep 15, 2018 |
It appears we are saying the same thing. They are not Hausas, but how you apply your divide-and-rule logic here remains my question Icon4s: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 1:41pm On Sep 15, 2018 |
Coaches can be sentimental too — white or black. But we are quick to always claim egunje although we cannot completely rule it out. Modified I meant some of us (like komekn) Chrismario: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 1:44pm On Sep 15, 2018 |
Joebie:the issue is not saying "I know".... The issue is thinking he knows more than those closest to the people Which travel has Komekn traveled that makes him think he knows more than those with ties to the place? He can drag other Igbos in some parts, but saying the entire Anioma people do not identify as Igbo is the most ignorant statement I have seen all day. He should know when to draw his line 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 1:46pm On Sep 15, 2018 |
It’s mostly for political/economic reasons why people claim what they claim. Some out of cheer ignorance. Even among the Aniomas you would still find some who would claim they are not igbos. When/If Anioma state is created maybe they would need a referendum lol safarigirl: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 1:47pm On Sep 15, 2018 |
Joebie: I'm denying it just like you, my problem is his(Komekm's) steady criticisms even when it seems to be none. Sentiment is just universal issue that touches all corners of human endeavor |
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