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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by numbered(m): 1:40pm On Sep 25, 2018
bidexiii:



You should know better. You've been keen on saying the super tucsno is a propeller aircraft and it goes beyond that.

The tucsno is what we need to prosecute these COIN in the North East. You have to go and read about the aircraft.

The A-29 Super Tucano is an aircraft that the U.S. Air Force paid to develop precisely for partner countries that needed air support for their counter terrorism operations. The super tucano has wing-mounted machine guns, weapons integration with advanced surveillance and targeting pods, precision-guided bombs, and even air-to-air missiles.

This makes it an excellent territorial defense and close support plane for low-budget air forces, as well as a surveillance asset with armed attack capability. The Brazilian Airforce uses it this way. for instance; alongside very advanced EMB-145 airborne radar and maritime patrol jet platforms..etc

The super tucano as is own distinct capabilities- to carry it's own ISR and strike capabilities, which these 4th gen Jets wouldn't offer plus cost & maintenance.

I think should do a little more research on the super tucano and NAF super tucano's contract. The whole $600M is not only for the 12 aircrafts alone, it comes with a whole lot of packages.
And it solves some of the shortfalls of the alphajet;Range,Payload,Endurance, and precision.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by NNAMDIII(m): 2:41pm On Sep 25, 2018
Henry240:

I'm not insulting you, but you comment spews of Ignorance.

What's Nigeria's defence budget?

How much of that budget is re-current expenditure?

How much is left for capital expenditure?

The Nigerian Air Force in 2017 flew over 5623 missions in support of Nigeria's COIN operations, what was the operational cost of carrying out all that mission in 2017?

You're spewing lots of emotions, no facts to back up anything.

You post photos of Algeria and Egypt, do you know how much Algeria spends on defence? 10 billion dollars.

Egypt spends 4 billion dollars, 1.3 billion in US aide not included, aid from the likes of Saudi Arabia not also included?

In Uganda, you shared a photo of their SU-30, Ugandan pilots routinely bolt, go AWOL.

Eritrean SU-27, 3rd hand aircrafts the Eritearans purchased.

All of Chad's "1" MIG-29 have practically never flown.

Zambia flying unmanned UAVs, really?

Dude, you need to research more before going on a social media meltdown.
You don't give some people the benefit of replying, leave him.



no matter how much lip stick you put on a pig,it's still a pig!
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kikuyu1(m): 2:49pm On Sep 25, 2018
Henry240:

I'm not insulting you, but you comment spews of Ignorance.

What's Nigeria's defence budget?

How much of that budget is re-current expenditure?

How much is left for capital expenditure?

The Nigerian Air Force in 2017 flew over 5623 missions in support of Nigeria's COIN operations, what was the operational cost of carrying out all that mission in 2017?

You're spewing lots of emotions, no facts to back up anything.

You post photos of Algeria and Egypt, do you know how much Algeria spends on defence? 10 billion dollars.

Egypt spends 4 billion dollars, 1.3 billion in US aide not included, aid from the likes of Saudi Arabia not also included?

In Uganda, you shared a photo of their SU-30, Ugandan pilots routinely bolt, go AWOL.

Eritrean SU-27, 3rd hand aircrafts the Eritearans purchased.

All of Chad's "1" MIG-29 have practically never flown.

Zambia flying unmanned UAVs, really?

Dude, you need to research more before going on a social media meltdown.

I think he's saying Naij must SPEND MORE! We all have challenges but ideally you should have at least 1 squadron of low hrs Mig 29s and another of maybe Su 25s.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 3:12pm On Sep 25, 2018
kikuyu1:


I think he's saying Naij must SPEND MORE! We all have challenges but ideally you should have at least 1 squadron of low hrs Mig 29s and another of maybe Su 25s.


We will get there, that is a MUST grin

With people like the present CAS.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 3:26pm On Sep 25, 2018
PRESS RELEASE

TROOPS REPELLS BOKO HARAM ATTACK IN KEKENO

1. Troops of Sector 3 Operation LAFIYA DOLE, deployed at Kekeno town, Kukawa Local Government Area of Borno State on Sunday 23 September 2018 at about 5:47pm repelled Boko Haram Terrorists attack.

2. The terrorists who have suffered serious losses in terms of men and resources in recent confrontations with troops, came to extort food and other logistics items from law abiding citizens.

3. During the encounter, troops successfully repelled the attack with superior fire power.

4. The terrorists eventually abandoned the town after suffering devastating casualties and ran towards the fringes of Lake Chad. The gallant troops are currently on the trail of the terrorists.

5. The Acting Commander Sector 3 Operation LAFIYA DOLE Brigadier General Uwem Bassey, has reassured the law abiding citizens in Northen Borno State, of their safety and urged them to go about their normal businesses and farming activities.

6. The general public is once again reminded to report anyone with gunshot wounds and any suspicious movement to the nearest security agents for prompt action.

7. You are please requested to disseminate this information to the general public through your reputable medium.

8. Thank you for your usual cooperation.

TEXAS CHUKWU
Brigadier General
Director Army Public Relations
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 3:29pm On Sep 25, 2018
RANDOM

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 3:51pm On Sep 25, 2018
Bidexi...you forgot to mention the fact that each of these countries acquiring the Super Tucano actually have an airforce with lirs of 4th gen combat aircraft.One American carrier battle group alone flies between 60 and 80 FA/18 hornet. Another Tucano operator Brazil have 4th gen fighters in enough numbers to defend the nation's airspace. Nigeria relies on SIX or EIGHT Chengdu F-7N fighters to defend the nation's airspace yet is pouring over half a billion dollars, Cameroons entire defense budget on 10 Super Tucanos.....yet you see nothing wrong with downward spiral of the NAF?

Can you honestly tell that 6 planes can protect 200 million Nigerians with billions in oil and other critical infrastructure. No strategic air defense missiles. The Strela2 Manpad is does not cut it. The $600 million splashed on 10 worthless aircraft will transform the NAF strike fleet into a 21st century high-tech fighting force.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 4:02pm On Sep 25, 2018
kikuyu1:


I think he's saying Naij must SPEND MORE! We all have challenges but ideally you should have at least 1 squadron of low hrs Mig 29s and another of maybe Su 25s.

Naija is already spending more. We just splashed $600 million on TEN turbo prop planes that won't be delivered until 2022, which in reality means between 2023 and 2025. We splashed $300 million playing big brother in the Gambia to an unappreciative regional bloc. How on earth can anyone say the NAF suffers from resources? Indonesia acquired 12 SU-27/35 series from Russia in 2016. They did not want to expend their cash reserves so they paid for it in commodities - crude. Nigeria can equally do the same. But NO.....we must stick to spending millions training pilots, and then putting the pilots life at risk by strapping them into a irframes that are 4 decades old. In 2016 on three occasions Chadian aircrafts carried out unauthorized airstrikes against Boko Haram positions in Nigerian territory. They dont have to take permission and they know it. As it stands Cjaf can technically wipe out the Nigerian Air Force on the ground if they can get the timing right. Attack the F-7Ns while in their hanger with the SU-25. After that all they need do is sit back and see if the NAF will scramble Alpha jet trainers that lack air to air capability....what is Nigeria gonna throw against Chadian Mugs and SU-25..or God forbid French Mirage fighters?

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kikuyu1(m): 4:03pm On Sep 25, 2018
bidexiii:



We will get there, that is a MUST grin

With people like the present CAS.

How? It depends on budgetary allocation from the FG and the executive decisions. Even with all the will in the world how will the CAS increase funding?
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 4:10pm On Sep 25, 2018
SLBM:
Bidexi...you forgot to mention the fact that each of these countries acquiring the Super Tucano actually have an airforce with lirs of 4th gen combat aircraft.One American carrier battle group alone flies between 60 and 80 FA/18 hornet. Another Tucano operator Brazil have 4th gen fighters in enough numbers to defend the nation's airspace. Nigeria relies on SIX or EIGHT Chengdu F-7N fighters to defend the nation's airspace yet is pouring over half a billion dollars, Cameroons entire defense budget on 10 Super Tucanos.....yet you see nothing wrong with downward spiral of the NAF?

Can you honestly tell that planes can protect 200 million Nigerians with billions in oil and other critical infrastructure. No strategic air defense missiles. The Strela2 Manpad is does not cut it. The $600 million splashed on 10 worthless aircraft will transform the NAF strike fleet into a 21st century high-tech fighting force.

With all honestly I can tell you that you are so so selfish. All you are worried about is about a contested air space and 4th gen these and that

A country like Nigeria where people are dying in the North EAST, CENTRAL & WEST AND all you are concerned with is getting 4th gen aircraft, Are you fighting a war.

Anyway we will solve the internal conflicts and aggression we have forest before thinking of acquiring your so called 4th gen aircraft.

Are you comparing us now with the United States and Brazil I don't see any threat for surrounding neighboring countries; I don't trust Chad and if they raise there ugly head. Trust me with the current airforce assets we will crush them.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 4:13pm On Sep 25, 2018
barineh:


Still no 4th generation Aircraft. Can you say with confidence that NAF can help protect Nigeria from any foreign aggression.
Tucano, UCAV and MI-35M are 4th generation aircrafts.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 4:13pm On Sep 25, 2018
kikuyu1:


How? It depends on budgetary allocation from the FG and the executive decisions. Even with all the will in the world how will[b] the CAS increase funding? [/b]

I don't get you.....

The CAS or any military chief do not have the power to increase military budget. Let's leave that to the presidency and the Senate's.

We bought the super tucano's not from the annual military budget, hope you know that.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 4:15pm On Sep 25, 2018
bidexiii:


With all honestly I can tell you that you are so so selfish. All you are worried about is about a contested air space and 4th gen these and that

A country like Nigeria where people are dying in the North EAST, CENTRAL & WEST AND all you are concerned with is getting 4th gen aircraft, Are you fighting a war.

Anyway we will solve the internal conflicts and aggression we have forest before thinking of acquiring your so called 4th gen aircraft.

Are you comparing us now with the United States and Brazil I don't see any threat for surrounding neighboring countries; I don't trust Chad and if they raise there ugly head. Trust me with the current airforce assets we will crush them.
The whole thing is funny to me.

A country with a multiple internal military operations, fighting BH for the last 7 years, and he's talking about foreign aggression.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 4:19pm On Sep 25, 2018
kikuyu1:


I think he's saying Naij must SPEND MORE! We all have challenges but ideally you should have at least 1 squadron of low hrs Mig 29s and another of maybe Su 25s.
We need to spend more to defeat the threats that have displaced nearly 2 million Nigerians. We don't need to spend more to satisfy our fantasies of external aggression.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 4:24pm On Sep 25, 2018
Henry240:

The whole thing is funny to me.

A country with a multiple internal military operations, fighting BH for the last 7 years, and he's talking about foreign aggression.


I wonder of... shocked

@SLBM in shot you are telling me that if you where the CAS you rather squander such a funds on 4th gen Jets like the SU25 & 35, latest MISS or probably the French Rafale grin

Anyway if you have been following these thread and other we all have been praying we lay our hands on few Migs & Su. But do not under estimate the Tucano because it's the best and proven assets for COIN, that's all what we are saying.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 4:26pm On Sep 25, 2018
bidexiii:


With all honestly I can tell you that you are so so selfish. All you are worried about is about a contested air space and 4th gen these and that

A country like Nigeria where people are dying in the North EAST, CENTRAL & WEST AND all you are concerned with is getting 4th gen aircraft, Are you fighting a war.

Anyway we will solve the internal conflicts and aggression we have forest before thinking of acquiring your so called 4th gen aircraft.

Are you comparing us now with the United States and Brazil I don't see any threat for surrounding neighboring countries; I don't trust Chad and if they raise there ugly head. Trust me with the current airforce assets we will crush them.

By your analogy %99 of all countries in the world are stupid and selfish and Nigeria is the smart one. Dude, If Nigeria had do be what most countries do, invest in her armed forces 35,000 Nigerians will not be DEAD.How can you crush a country that on multiple occasions crossed into Nigeria, carried out military operation unauthorized and mock the Nigerian army, calling them cowards who flee. When Nigeria whipped Chad on 83 the Air Force had 15 Scepcat Jaguats and 21 Mig-21s, and even at that it took 21 days for the Chafians to be dislodged. Today the NAF is in a sorry state, overstretched. You see modern 4th gen aircrafts as a luxury Nigeria cannot afford. It is a shame really. The government is run by old dinosaurs who are clueless...the nation's only hope, the youths , people like you who are supposed to question and challenge their incompetence tow similar lines. It's not selfish equipping your Air Force with modern weapons. What is selfish is accepting millions of dollars in allocation, cutting corners buying junk, and then sending Nigerians to go into battle with junk. Do you know-how many lives would have been saved if Nigeria had enough platforms to provide round d clock close air support for ground troops? These people are eating our money, and you are here making excuses and defending them. Luxury it is indeed to modernise. It's hopeless.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 4:29pm On Sep 25, 2018
Henry240:

We need to spend more to defeat the threats that have displaced nearly 2 million Nigerians. We don't need to spend more to satisfy our fantasies of external aggression.

If 16 Alpha jets, 13 L-29s, 8 F-7Ns fighters and over 10 attack helicopters cannot defeat Boko Haram, an enemy with no air force then Nigeria have no business having an air-force.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by iblawi(m): 4:36pm On Sep 25, 2018
So, many ignorant comment on this thread.

Within the last 5 years NAF have procured over 30 new and modern aircrafts.

12 super tucano
12 MI 35
10 mushak
Unknown know of JF 17 thunder
Unknown numbers of yahboon UAVs
3 CH-3 UAV
4 ISR planes
Several LUH
Several locally made UAVs
Etc.

Please stop posting Ugandan SU-30, Chad's only Mig 29, or Sudanese old mig 29.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 4:42pm On Sep 25, 2018
Facts & answers regarding the A-29 Super Tucano for the novice.



This article aims to clarify once for all what the A-29 Super Tucano are about, and whether you should really care that they are not jets. The target audience is the general public, not those who are savvy in military topics.

The amount of negative feedback & ridicule that came along to the announcement of the 12 A-29 Super Tucano deal to thw NAF and other packages to the deal. These platforms will transit the Nigerian Air Force capability to a whole new level which was not reachable, and had the NAF had it before, would have changed a lot of things when it comes to the war against terrorism.

Here are some facts, and answers to frequent statements that clarify any doubt.

General

The A-29 is a further advancement of the original EMB-314 which includes changes in the ISR capability, cockpit, supported arms, engine, and additional armor.
The Super Tucano primary goal and role is not to be a trainer. It was made to be light-attack aircraft designed for counter-insurgency, close air support, and aerial reconnaissance.

Survivability

The aircraft has advanced counter-measure systems against surface-to-air-missiles (short range and MANPADs). The MILDS F missile warning system and ALE-47 counter-measure dispenser in fact are used in some of the advanced aircraft and jet fighters, such as F-15, F-16, and F/A-18.
The MILDS F detects the incoming missiles, and the ALE-47 automatically releases the flare or chaff counter-measures accordingly.

The A-29 adds up armor plates to those of the original Embrarer EMB-314 Super
Tucano. Cockpit, fuel system and engine components all have armor plates by TenCate.

The A-29 can fly up to 35,000 feet and can engage targets from ~26,000 feet (Using Hellfire), a common 23 mm anti-aircraft (AA) gun max altitude is 6,500 feet, and a 35 mm AA gun is ~13,000 feet.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by iblawi(m): 4:44pm On Sep 25, 2018
SLBM:


If 16 Alpha jets, 13 L-29s, 8 F-7Ns fighters and over 10 attack helicopters cannot defeat Boko Haram, an enemy with no air force then Nigeria have no business having an air-force.

Your post make no sense.

Over 15,000 America aircrafts couldn't defeat taliban or alqeada not to talk of ISIS.

Try use brain abeg you are in public.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 4:45pm On Sep 25, 2018
Electronics

The MX-15 camera/sensor is used on fixed-wing, rotary-wing, UAV, and aerostat all around the world. It is an advanced ISR and SAR camera with ability to see day/night, in poor weather, and from altitudes of 10,000 to 30,000 feet. Watch it in action.

The cockpit is equivalent to those on 4th and 5th generation aircraft.

Has advanced avionics and communications that are similar to those of 4th and 5th generation aircraft.
Has ballistic computer to perform computations such as impact point which would then be displayed on a head-up display.

Guys what the heck on earth do you want to prosecute the ongoing war... cool

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 4:49pm On Sep 25, 2018
Armament


1-Hellfire missile: no need to explain much about this infamous missile. One of the most advanced, top attack, air-to-surface missiles used on the AH-64 Apache, MQ-1 Predator UAV etc...

2-Hydra with APKWS: 70mm missiles with laser guidance improving accuracy to +93% hit rate.

3-GBU-12 Paveway II: The Paveway II is a laser guidance kit for bombs used by A-10, B-52, F-111, F-117, F-15, F- 16, F/A-18.

4-GBU-58 Paveway II: The Paveway II is a laser guidance kit for bombs used by A-10, B-52, F-111, F-117, F-15, F- 16, F/A-18.

5-The aircraft can also support other types of precision guided bombs, air-to-ground missiles, and air-to-air missiles.




Operation Effectiveness


To the contrary of a jet fighter, the A-29 can loiter (fly over) the battlefield for up to 8.5 hours (with external fuel tanks); this is compared to 2-3 hours with close-air support jets.

The A-29 can take off from virtually any flat surface that is long enough, it doesn't strictly require a true runway.
Operation Cost

Thanks to its turbo-propeller engine, the cost-per-flight-hour to fly these compared to a typical jet fighter is fraction of the cost.

Operation cost also involves consumable parts, and air-frame degradation, both of which come at a lower cost than a modern jet.

Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kenpaul0: 4:51pm On Sep 25, 2018
Never heard of this!!!They might not be able to replace these easily? Which one be basic research again bro? Dem no get am before?..lol

Henry240:

Oga with what?

Some of you guys need to learn how to carry out basic research.


https://warisboring.com/american-rushes-to-help-after-a-storm-nearly-wipes-out-the-chadian-air-force
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 4:52pm On Sep 25, 2018
Oh plzzzxxx

The Super Tucano won't 've delivered until 2022
The Mi-35 is a rotary winged tactical aircraft for ground attack.
Super Mushank...we keep training pilots to fly non existent aircraft.
JF-17..like you said UNKNOWN.
CH-3A. Excellent
Locally made UAVs is nothing special. High school students build even better UAVs.

The Nigerian Air Force in its entirety is near extinct. VIP light helicopters, locally mAde drones does not alter the reality on ground. This country has been in perpetual conflict for a decade because Boko Haram caught the military offguard. No body ever imagined Nigetia will find itself battling urban guerrilla warfare...well here we are, Because we were ill equipped its taking this long to try replacing old weapons.

Like in the past people refuse to believe Nigeria will ever find itsel in a position whereby its forced to defend the nation's airspace and critical infrastructure. Nigeria had 6 fighter jets and to you its enough. After all we are not at war. When that " it will never happen here " syndrom finally catches up with you, you begin to run to the international market looking for weapons to buy. I find it appalling that any Nigerian will see investing in modern aircraft and air defense as wasteful luxury. It shows Nigeria as a society is still primitive and backward. This primitive mindset is what allows our current crop of recycled leaders to drag the country backward while other countries advance. Countries at peace are equipping their armed forces with modern weapons systems and I proved training. While Nigeria, a nation at war sees spending money on modern platforms as waste of resources, what an irony. I am frankly disgusted.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 4:55pm On Sep 25, 2018
SLBM:


If 16 Alpha jets, 13 L-29s, 8 F-7Ns fighters and over 10 attack helicopters cannot defeat Boko Haram, an enemy with no air force then Nigeria have no business having an air-force.
Does the United States with 3,000 fighter jets deserve one?

Last i checked, they've been bombing the Taliban in Afghanistan for the past 17 years.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 4:57pm On Sep 25, 2018
bidexiii:
Armament


1-Hellfire missile: no need to explain much about this infamous missile. One of the most advanced, top attack, air-to-surface missiles used on the AH-64 Apache, MQ-1 Predator UAV etc...

2-Hydra with APKWS: 70mm missiles with laser guidance improving accuracy to +93% hit rate.

3-GBU-12 Paveway II: The Paveway II is a laser guidance kit for bombs used by A-10, B-52, F-111, F-117, F-15, F- 16, F/A-18.

4-GBU-58 Paveway II: The Paveway II is a laser guidance kit for bombs used by A-10, B-52, F-111, F-117, F-15, F- 16, F/A-18.

5-The aircraft can also support other types of precision guided bombs, air-to-ground missiles, and air-to-air missiles.




Operation Effectiveness


To the contrary of a jet fighter, the A-29 can loiter (fly over) the battlefield for up to 8.5 hours (with external fuel tanks); this is compared to 2-3 hours with close-air support jets.

The A-29 can take off from virtually any flat surface that is long enough, it doesn't strictly require a true runway.
Operation Cost

Thanks to its turbo-propeller engine, the cost-per-flight-hour to fly these compared to a typical jet fighter is fraction of the cost.

Operation cost also involves consumable parts, and air-frame degradation, both of which come at a lower cost than a modern jet.


It's still crap. It is not an air superiority fighter and will not survive 5 minutes against supersonic fighter jets. Nigeria needs to address its lack of air superiority fighter rather than wait for the innevitabilty to happen. Every country buying Super Tucanos are doing so as a low cost measure to 4th generation fighters. Nigeria is doing the opposite. We are buying the Super Tucano as Nigeria's most high-tech warplane. Completely worthless in the strategic sense.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 4:57pm On Sep 25, 2018
SLBM:


By your analogy %99 of all countries in the world are stupid and selfish and Nigeria is the smart one. Dude, If Nigeria had do be what most countries do, invest in her armed forces 35,000 Nigerians will not be DEAD.How can you crush a country that on multiple occasions crossed into Nigeria, carried out military operation unauthorized and mock the Nigerian army, calling them cowards who flee. When Nigeria whipped Chad on 83 the Air Force had 15 Scepcat Jaguats and 21 Mig-21s, and even at that it took 21 days for the Chafians to be dislodged. Today the NAF is in a sorry state, overstretched. You see modern 4th gen aircrafts as a luxury Nigeria cannot afford. It is a shame really. The government is run by old dinosaurs who are clueless...the nation's only hope, the youths , people like you who are supposed to question and challenge their incompetence tow similar lines. It's not selfish equipping your Air Force with modern weapons. What is selfish is accepting millions of dollars in allocation, cutting corners buying junk, and then sending Nigerians to go into battle with junk. Do you know-how many lives would have been saved if Nigeria had enough platforms to provide round d clock close air support for ground troops? These people are eating our money, and you are here making excuses and defending them. Luxury it is indeed to modernise. It's hopeless.


Now you are turning these to a sympathy speech, yes we kicked Chadian back to there homes with the jaguar jets like wise the Alpha jet did a fantastic job in Sierra Leone also.

With the super tucano and jf 17 on its way, we are getting back to what the force use to be. Dude the military erase really spoilt every sector in these country. We will get their.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by rka2: 4:59pm On Sep 25, 2018
SLBM:
Oh plzzzxxx

The Super Tucano won't 've delivered until 2022
The Mi-35 is a rotary winged tactical aircraft for ground attack.
Super Mushank...we keep training pilots to fly non existent aircraft.
JF-17..like you said UNKNOWN.
CH-3A. Excellent
Locally made UAVs is nothing special. High school students build even better UAVs.

The Nigerian Air Force in its entirety is near extinct. VIP light helicopters, locally mAde drones does not alter the reality on ground. This country has been in perpetual conflict for a decade because Boko Haram caught the military offguard. No body ever imagined Nigetia will find itself battling urban guerrilla warfare...well here we are, Because we were ill equipped its taking this long to try replacing old weapons.

Like in the past people refuse to believe Nigeria will ever find itsel in a position whereby its forced to defend the nation's airspace and critical infrastructure. Nigeria had 6 fighter jets and to you its enough. After all we are not at war. When that " it will never happen here " syndrom finally catches up with you, you begin to run to the international market looking for weapons to buy. I find it appalling that any Nigerian will see investing in modern aircraft and air defense as wasteful luxury. It shows Nigeria as a society is still primitive and backward. This primitive mindset is what allows our current crop of recycled leaders to drag the country backward while other countries advance. Countries at peace are equipping their armed forces with modern weapons systems and I proved training. While Nigeria, a nation at war sees spending money on modern platforms as waste of resources, what an irony. I am frankly disgusted.

Bro, Tucano is being delivered from 2020. The CAS has even asked them to expedite the first two.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 5:00pm On Sep 25, 2018
SLBM:



It's still crap. It is not an air superiority fighter and will not survive 5 minutes against supersonic fighter jets. Nigeria needs to address its lack of air superiority fighter rather than wait for the innevitabilty to happen. Every country buying Super Tucanos are doing so as a low cost measure to 4th generation fighters. Nigeria is doing the opposite. We are buying the Super Tucano as Nigeria's most high-tech warplane. Completely worthless in the strategic sense.

I don't understand these you cry for 4th gen Jets. Henry asked you the other time is the super tucano not a 4th gen Jets

Tell me what other better platform you need to fight the BHT war going on for over 7 years or more.

Bro you still don't get it. What air superiority fighter are you talking about when people are dying. Do you just want to argue blindly.

Every body on these thread want the the force to acquire these so called superiority fighter jet, but first thing first...will be our order of priority needs. Simple as ABC

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 5:01pm On Sep 25, 2018
bidexiii:


With all honestly I can tell you that you are so so selfish. All you are worried about is about a contested air space and 4th gen these and that

A country like Nigeria where people are dying in the North EAST, CENTRAL & WEST AND all you are concerned with is getting 4th gen aircraft, Are you fighting a war.

Anyway we will solve the internal conflicts and aggression we have forest before thinking of acquiring your so called 4th gen aircraft.

Are you comparing us now with the United States and Brazil I don't see any threat for surrounding neighboring countries; I don't trust Chad and if they raise there ugly head. Trust me with the current airforce assets we will crush them.
Its rather unfortunate, Google has wrecked havoc.
Too much fantasies, just like I see on twitter at times
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 5:04pm On Sep 25, 2018
bidexiii:



Now you are turning these to a sympathy speech, yes we kicked Chadian back to there homes with the jaguar jets like wise the Alpha jet did a fantastic job in Sierra Leone also.

With the super tucano and jf 17 on its way, we are getting back to what the force use to be. Dude the military erase really spoilt every sector in these country. We will get their.

Dude you don't know what you 're saying. Back then the Chadians and Cameroonians know what will hit them if they infringe on Nigerian territory. Today they do it with reckless abandon, killing, burning whole villages. The Super Tucano is a specialised aircraft against a specific kind of target. It's light skin and slow speed means it will be blotted out of the sky by enemy aircraft or surface to air missiles. Nigeria needs an AIR FORCE, not a special forces air force. O boy...a nation like Nigeria cannot afford a modern air force? Are we that bavkward really? We can put hundreds of millions to put satellites into orbit, $300 million for peave keeping but yet cannot buy modern 4th generation fighters?
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 5:06pm On Sep 25, 2018
Odunayaw:
Its rather unfortunate, Google has wrecked havoc.
Too much fantasies, just like I see on twitter at times

Fantasy lol...Oh boy.,I bow my head in shame as a Nigerian with these comments. We are truly lost.

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