odogwu125:

Abraham fathered many nations not only Isrealites. Also the covenant of circumcision applied to his servants and slaves

And Igbo people are far older than Abraham.
My dear, we can as well say we originated from places where circumcision is practiced too.
A na emenu

InyinyaAgbaOku:


It is not better to accept what was never there in the first place.
Accepting Eri for academics is not a problem. That one has already happened.
Accepting the biblical Eri in particular, is where the problem lies cos it's false.
The Nri people that have the story said he is a divine deity , not a migrant from Israel.
So, those who want to confer the migrant status on Eri are the ones looking for trouble.

Like I said above, archeological discoveries of complex structures- ornaments, artworks and other sophisticated artefacts showed we have been around long before the speculated period of migration.

So, we can't consider what was never there.

I will respond to you once more for the benefit of those who seek knowledge on this matter. I recommended books and documentaries on this matter,you discarded and called them bluff. Here you are all over the place ranting and throwing tantrums yet to prove anything to the contrary except making blanket statements. Here you are suddenly telling us the difference between Biblical Eri and that Eri that settled at Ezu na Omambala without providing the phonetic symbol differentiating the two. Again,i recommended a comprehensive study by an Igbo person (Late Professor Catherine Acholonu) who actually proved the migration was in reverse order.At least her account actually gave us the edge in the entire narration Do you really wanna learn or you just want to keep ranting and blanketing around for fun? "To any contemplating residence in the Ibo country, particularly those likely to be associated with native affairs, I would recommend a careful study of Levitical Law. In many ways the affinity between Native Law and the Mosaic System is remarkable." The statement in quote was made by a British Explorer and it sparked much further studies on this matter. Even if you doubt the accounts of foreigners,pick the history books written by Onwuka Dike,Prof Onwuejiogwu and Adiele Afigbo. Each of the above and many more treated these and many more in details within the limits of evidence available to them. Again,scholars don't dismiss contrary ideas. They keep an open mind.

odogwu125:

You have not seen Okore Affia face to face. That man na real oyibo. I thought his mum was oyibo but I am surprised to learn otherwise from someone here. He was former NYSC DG

lol true

nnamdijonathan:


not just them, Igbos have more fair people than other tribes in Nigeria, the population of fair Igbo people is very high amongst the total Igbo population. This may be as a result of foreign blood but no one knows.

This is very very untrue.

Fulanis, Shuwa arabs have the fairest people in Nigeria.

Ebiras, Esans, Ibibios and to an extent Idomas and Igalas also have as much light skinned people as Igbos per population.

Igbos are a large tribe that's why they seem more obvious.

odogwu125:

That's the point. Fulani are Arabian tribe gradually being absorbed so why doubt Jewish migration hypothesis

Lol, no, fulanis are a black west african tribe with origins from Senegal and they speak a Niger-congo language just like Igbos.

Fulanis are believed to have a strong Berber admixture and not Arab, just like the Touaregs who are a mixture of Black west africans and Berbers.

Pls there is a big difference between Berbers and Arabs.
The former are indigenous Africans while the latter are not.

odogwu125:

That's the point. Fulani are Arabian tribe gradually being absorbed so why doubt Jewish migration hypothesis

For me I strongly believe that there was a middle eastern migration into Igbo land. Some Igbos of today could actually be of Jewish origin, but I'm sure they would be a minority.

Cos I have observed that only Igbos and tribes neighbouring to the Igbos have a high incidence of naturally light skinned people in the south/middlebelt of Nigeria.
Nautural light skin is truly not an aboriginal subsaharan Bantu/West-african thing. It came with admixtures.

Afam4eva:

Is Orji not in Owerri?

Orji is a town of its own close to Owerri. It still has rural parts and has never been part of Owerri Nchise. The relationship between Orji and Owerri is that they are both of Uratta clan like Egbu, Emii, Emekuku, Naze, Awaka and other Uratta speaking towns.

nnamdijonathan:


Igbo is a what then?
If what you wrote up there is correct, that means we have too many tribes. Igbo land is getting more complicated to me.

igbo has diverse origin doesn't mean they ain't the same people... Nobody can tell where igbo started how it started and where it began. Some traced their history from where they sojourned with people
.. Like where I come from where we started tracing ours is leaving ibibio land cos we where sojourning with them but afachima wickedness made us leave..... But our dialect. Everything is intelligible with someone from enugu... Nobody knows where it all started but looking at igbo land as a whole there are clear evidence that we are all related one way or the other.. Names. Food. Mindset... Culture etc
.. Some stories are lost.... Talking about ife. Hope u know it ain't all yoruba trace their ancestry to ife and the oduduwa in question. We were told he descended from heaven. Aint it ridiculous.. Yoruba for me migrated from Togo axis while igbos migrated from Cameroon axis to our present location

Abagworo:


Orji is a town of its own close to Owerri. It still has rural parts and has never been part of Owerri Nchise. The relationship between Orji and Owerri is that they are both of Uratta clan like Egbu, Emii, Emekuku, Naze, Awaka and other Uratta speaking towns.

Owerri, just like most cities in the world are artificial creations, so most towns around it are part and parcel of the city.

odogwu125:

But its not circumcision alone. The similarities are too numerous. Igbos were here before abram but his descendants can and introduced it to us

Introduced it to you?
Said who?

The history of the Nigerian Colonial flag also gives a hint at the Jewish presence in Igboland

Afam4eva:

Owerri, just like most cities in the world are artificial creations, so most towns around it are part and parcel of the city.

Owerri isn't an artificial creation. It has been there as a town of 5 clans for centuries before becoming a city. Is Obosi in Onitsha?

Handsomegod:
I will respond to you once more for the benefit of those who seek knowledge on this matter. I recommended books and documentaries on this matter,you discarded and called them bluff. Here you are all over the place ranting and throwing tantrums yet to prove anything to the contrary except making blanket statements. Here you are suddenly telling us the difference between Biblical Eri and that Eri that settled at Ezu na Omambala without providing the phonetic symbol differentiating the two. Again,i recommended a comprehensive study by an Igbo person (Late Professor Catherine Acholonu) who actually proved the migration was in reverse order.At least her account actually gave us the edge in the entire narration Do you really wanna learn or you just want to keep ranting and blanketing around for fun? "To any contemplating residence in the Ibo country, particularly those likely to be associated with native affairs, I would recommend a careful study of Levitical Law. In many ways the affinity between Native Law and the Mosaic System is remarkable." The statement in quote was made by a British Explorer and it sparked much further studies on this matter. Even if you doubt the accounts of foreigners,pick the history books written by Onwuka Dike,Prof Onwuejiogwu and Adiele Afigbo. Each of the above and many more treated these and many more in details within the limits of evidence available to them. Again,scholars don't dismiss contrary ideas. They keep an open mind.

Handsomegod, I am very conversant with the writings of these people and I never believed them. I made my rejections of Jewish linkage from what they wrote rather.
People like Elizabeth Isichei too , are antagonistic about those Jewish stuffs and I think they have good points.

Handsomegod, we usually agree on the same things in and out of this thread, but you see this topic, I completely disagree with you.
Don't worry, another topic will naturally sprout up and we will go back to our default settings but for this, let's agree to disagree

odogwu125:

The Levitcal Priesthood is quite similar to igbo traditional priesthood. That fellow doesn't read his Bible

Not just similar,you will be shocked at what you will unearth if you dig deeper. Refer to this book published in 1999:"Ibos: Hebrew Exiles From Israel. Amazing Facts and Revelations" by Professor Okwukwe Alaezi. He is Igbo and still very much alive. Again,matters like this will only matter to those who seek to advance their knowledge and not for arguments.

Umunnaa, Nowenuse aburo onye Igbo, obu onye mba middle belt. Ya bu nwoke ahughi Ndiigbo na anya, otutu mgbe ka muna na ya gbagoro mgba na ihi akpom asi onwelu ebe ndi Igbo nor.

Ebea kwesili ibu ebe soso Ndiigbo na agbako. Anyi achoghi onye na abughi onye Igbo ebe.

Biko, ndi n'ime anyi na akpasa ya bu Nwoke nkata, gbaa mbo hu na ha kwusili ya.
Anyi achoghi uche ndi/onye mba ozo na abughi Igbo, ebea.


Igbo bu Igbo, ekene mu unu, kelekwa ihe na ejere unu Ozi.

odogwu125:

Ethiopia descended from Cush son of Ham son of Noah. While Isrealites came fro Shem son of Noah. All Ethiopan Jews are converts. No shared ancestry

Yet, our ancestors never shared those stories.
O dikwa egwusi.

nnamdijonathan:
The history of the Nigerian Colonial flag also gives a hint at the Jewish presence in Igboland

Was Igbo history ever the highlight in any Nigerian national symbol like flag?
There is no Jewish presence in Igboland

Please Igbos should be proud of our heritage and stop this digrace of trying to cling on to people that have nothing to offer. If Israelites notice we are doing well, they will be the ones claiming us while we ask them to go for DNA test before we accept. The same goes to those Igbos that have made it a point of duty to deny and insult Igbos in order to gain national acceptance as minority. We should leave them and then develop ourselves you will see each and every one of them trying to prove they are Igbos.

InyinyaAgbaOku:


Was Igbo history ever the highlight in any Nigerian national symbol like flag?
There is no Jewish presence in Igboland

Read the history again. The Star of David on that flag was placed there because of the Igbo Jews. Don't forget to read the section were a bronze star of David was found in Aguleri in 1917. The truth is that there are definitely some true Igbo Jews amongst us but not all Igbos are Jews because, the Jewish migrants most have definitely met some people already residing in Igbo land back then.

pazienza:
Umunnaa, Nowenuse aburo onye Igbo, obu onye mba middle belt. Ya bu nwoke ahughi Ndiigbo na anya, otutu mgbe ka muna na ya gbagoro mgba na ihi akpom asi onwelu ebe ndi Igbo nor.

Ebea kwesili ibu ebe soso Ndiigbo na agbako. Anyi achoghi onye na abughi onye Igbo ebe.

Biko, ndi n'ime anyi na akpasa ya bu Nwoke nkata, gbaa mbo hu na ha kwusili ya.
Anyi achoghi uche ndi/onye mba ozo na abughi Igbo, ebea.


Igbo bu Igbo, ekene mu unu, kelekwa ihe na ejere unu Ozi.

And you think I don't understand what you're saying?
Igbo language is not so difficult to learn afterall.

I would have never commented here if not that someone made a false comment about all other Nigerian tribes.

Nice thread by the way.

I know you from Proudly Anioma, Proudly Igbo page.

InyinyaAgbaOku:


Handsomegod, I am very conversant with the writings of these people and I never believed them. I made my rejections of Jewish linkage from what they wrote rather.
People like Elizabeth Isichei too , are antagonistic about those Jewish stuffs and I think they have good points.

Handsomegod, we usually agree on the same things in and out of this thread, but you see this topic, I completely disagree with you.
Don't worry, another topic will naturally sprout up and we will go back to our default settings but for this, let's agree to disagree

Nwanne. I do not have a problem with your position. Never forget I referred you to where this whole discussion started. Go to page 181 of this thread. Again,my concern was not to establish Igbo origin,which by the way has always been a controversial element,but on the exactitudes between Igbo and Jewish culture and traditional practices. Due to lack of documented evidence,lots of information and facts must have been lost.Have you also heard of Professor Onwukwe Alaezi? He is an authority on this subject. Again,every scholar and student keeps an open mind. Once upon a time,laws of viscousity,relativity and gravity were doubted and blacklisted. Today,thy are relevant and established natural laws. The inroads were made because scholars kept an open mind over the centuries until those laws were validated. Ututu Oma.

I don't believe in all this Jewish stuff. Bros thus thing is becoming too much... Bini talk say nah Egypt dem migrate... Yoruba tell us that they are moors... Igbo talk dem be Jews... Ibibio and efik claims Hebrew ancestry etc. This thing is becoming funny... I don't blame them. Itx because all this city are all developed and nobody want to be associated with bad things

nnamdijonathan:
The history of the Nigerian Colonial flag also gives a hint at the Jewish presence in Igboland

The information you posted is another interesting topic all over aside validating finally what we have been discussing here in the last 18 hours! There you have it! This revelation and the fall out is at the root of igbophobia (read, antisemitism) that prevails until this day. Any Igbo person who is at loss ought to read up the reaction of Fela and the jihardists to that fact.That is the covert state policy that informed all Igbo travails in Nigeria from almagamation till today. Thank you Nnamdi for concluding this matter.

OMANBALA1:


You sound like a ffool, I swear! Intelligence gbuo yi there! Anambra has Igala people from Nzam, Aguleri down to Onicha and we love them and we are proud of it. Igala of Anambra people are some of the nicest people ever. Watch your utterances, mkpi na agba ewu!

Your arrogance stinks to high heaven. You shouldn't be on this thread. Tufia kwa!

Enugu:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIIFM-gkPNQ

OMANBALA1:
Pazienza, you ignore the derogatory remarks the OFEKE by the name ChimaAdeoye keep making about our Igala brothers. You didn't rebuke him but you are constantly admonishing the efforts of those who are trying to put ignorant folks like odogwu to sword. We have Igala in Anambra and any person that ignores attack on them, well, are you one of us.

You are so sucked into Igbo agenda you almost forgot where you hail from. You dont contribute to the consciousness of the Anambra people. Maybe you need to revisit your priority. As for me I am Anambra firstly and I cant build Igbo land if Anambra if not great!

This is the very reason ndi Ikwerre left the Igbo fold. The same arrogant mistake is been repeated again. Very soon, there will be nothing like Igbo, curtsy of ivu ishi.

xfactor23:

This is the very reason ndi Ikwerre left the Igbo fold. The same arrogant mistake is been repeated again. Very soon, there will be nothing like Igbo, curtsy of ivu ishi.

Ikwerre left Igbo out of economic and political expediency.
Nothing like "ivu Ishi ", stop justifying those peeps despicable character, just to spite your fellow Igbos, that is, if you are really Igbo .

pazienza:


Ikwerre left Igbo out of economic and political expediency.
Nothing like "ivu Ishi ", stop justifying those peeps despicable character, just to spite your fellow Igbos, that is, if you are really Igbo .

I was with an Ikwerre chief who narrated everything to me prior to the war. And what have you said about Omambala arrogant attitude? Yes, I'm Igbo.