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Re: . by frankfrancis871: 10:23am On Oct 08, 2018 |
pazienza:As far as I know sire there are Ikwerres who identify with the Igbo nation, how would they feel when they see your post. I'm not asking we Igbos to become beggars because of some our misguided brothers who have choose to remain blind than face the truth. Igbos in S.E are big brothers to the other Igbo tribes so we must behave as such. We have achieved alot in life but our enemies will fear us only when we unite together. They (Ikwerre and their likes) can keep hating but we have been doing better ignoring them hoping that they will come back to their senses, treat any of the sensible ones like the father did to his prodigal son in the Bible. I belong to many of their fb groups but I just smile when I see any spewing venoms, Igbos are too great to exchange words with everyone. Let's forget on Biafra, we are not beggars and can never beg them. Here in the north, my friend who is Isoko is called 'Inyamiri' (Igbo) not to talk of an Ikwerre man! (I have a kwale neighbour.. Well that will be story for another day). Just like everybody wants to identify with Jews so will all who hate Igbos struggle to be Igbo descendants. MEANWHILE I want to know why they hate Igbos, let debate. I will tell my 1st october quit notice story, if you agree. 1 Like |
Re: . by xfactor23: 10:24am On Oct 08, 2018 |
ghostfacekillar:Your time and business. You are on your own. |
Re: . by xfactor23: 10:25am On Oct 08, 2018 |
Most of you here are not even active on any pan-Igbo group. You only come online to pour your hate for nothing rubbishing the works of serious minded Igbos that are busy building bridges in real life. You guys should take a chill please. 1 Like |
Re: . by ghostfacekillar(m): 10:25am On Oct 08, 2018 |
GuyWise:double upon double 1 Like |
Re: . by pazienza(m): 10:25am On Oct 08, 2018 |
superlightning: Ikwerre non Igbo claim is nolonger a matter of politics, it's now cultural, it's ingrained inside every Ikwerre youth, they believe it and defend it violently, if need be. Igbo ministers and governors don't deny being Igbo, so I don't know what your point is. I was in Ndi Anambra facebook page when some one posted congratulatory messages for Nigeria on first October, only to be descended on and castigated by Majority of Ndi Anambra there, with many telling the poster that they are not Nigerians. It tells you the mindset of the average Igbo man. Because those people there are the commoners. We All know that the political elites only stand for their selfish interests. The Ikwerre commoners and elites are united in their Igbophobia. It's a different ball game. Go to Ikwerre facebook book pages and confirm this. Go to PH city and confirm this. Some of you might choose to live in denial, but the majority of us would nolonger accept to do so. The Ijaw call the Ikwerre Igbos because they know Ikwerres hate being called Igbos. Down there in Rivers state, they had reduced the word Igbo to a thing of curse. When a Rivers State group want to insult the other, they call them "Igbos". That's how these people had degraded our ethnic pride, with the help of Igbos like you who have no self dignity and would continue sucking up to them. Nobody is balkanizing Igboland. The Igboland our fathers know is no more, the Igboland we have today is SE plus Oyigbo, it's the Igboland we had known since we were born (most of us were born after the war), hence we must work with it. When you accept your limitations, no one would use it against you. Ndiigbo have to accept the reality starring us on our faces today, the more we deny this reality, the more we would suffer. 10 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: . by Handsomegod(m): 10:25am On Oct 08, 2018 |
pazienza:Nwanne. You are visibly angry. Tone it down a bit. Personally,i know lots of efforts being made by people in both end of the divide to unite and present a common Igbo front. This however did not cancel out all the issues you raised.Lots of damage was done by our detractors.I look at this matter in two ways. Let us not perpetuate their plans by ourselves. I once again appeal you tone it down a little. Let us adopt an all encompassing approach to the relationship with South South Igbos who are still battling with identity crises. As many that genuinely identify with us(there are many like that already),we shall embrace and accept while the work goes on.. I also totally understand the effects of the ambiguity in political allocation,yet culturally and in matter of provenance,the work should be sustained. Nothing done in anger ever qualifies as a standard in the long run. Amarabe is our sister from that area. Ezepromoe is another.Many more are viewing and following this thread. This is a Pan Igbo thread.While there are misguided elements in Ika,sizable numbers are steadfast in their Igbo conviction.One of my closest family friend is from Akumazi. They breath,eat and represent Igbo all day. Recall that Cjrane,Osita Mordi and Bankesmalls here are all Ike but proudly Igbo. Very few poeple are more cerebral(Cjrane) and knowledgable about Igbo history(Osita Mordi),outspoken (Banke).There are many more like them. This issue is too delicate to be approached in anger. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: . by frankfrancis871: 10:28am On Oct 08, 2018 |
ghostfacekillar:Yes even Igbo descendants scattered in America and the world |
Re: . by xfactor23: 10:33am On Oct 08, 2018 |
frankfrancis871: Bro, I was with a chief in Choba, an Ikwerre chief, who told me to my face that Ikwerre are Igbos, but the Nigerian politics have done a lot of damages that will take time and a lot of effort from both divide to heal. Its in our hands to correct this errors. Germany was once a fragmented state, orchestrated by her enemies in the then old Europe, it took one man, Ottoman Von Bismarck, to unite Germany. Igbo case cannot be different. If you allow emotion to keep getting on your senses, then you will keep repeating the same mistake. Its high time we give those that are genuinely working for our unification to play their part before we jump into conclusion. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: . by ghostfacekillar(m): 10:38am On Oct 08, 2018 |
Handsomegod:bros.. For anioma itx lesser.but ikwerre ogba and ekpeye. I don't consider this people my broda 1 Like |
Re: . by horsepower101: 10:39am On Oct 08, 2018 |
superlightning: When did gowon ever ask for forgiveness? |
Re: . by ghostfacekillar(m): 10:41am On Oct 08, 2018 |
frankfrancis871:tell us. I wana see it |
Re: . by pazienza(m): 10:42am On Oct 08, 2018 |
xfactor23: What are you on about? Visit every Ikwerre thread available in NL and you would see my contributions there. Just because you have few Ikwerre friends who profess Igbo identity and love, doesn't mean we should all overlook the Ikwerre mainstream agenda to accommodate them. Igbo is a nation, any Ikwerre man that loves Ndiigbo can naturalize and would be accepted, but Ikwerre as an entity cannot be accepted as Igbo without undermining our collective Igbo agenda. Looking at Wike, he's very ambitious, very soon he would seek to take our place in the national discussion and the Ikwerre mainstream would tone down on their Igbophobia, while the few Igbophilic ones amongst them would become more vociferous in their Igbo unity message, and we would be set to be used and dumped again. Are you lots not ashamed of yourselves that these minority groups have us this fooled? 9 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: . by pazienza(m): 10:49am On Oct 08, 2018 |
horsepower101: Imagine how these group of Igbo people are without pride or dignity. Listen to Wike comments right before the stadium was named Gowon stadium. Remember that that same stadium was initially named Liberation stadium in 1970, in reference to their alleged liberation by Gowon and Nigerians from Igbo oppressors who sought to kill them and possess their lands. Now in 2017, as if to rob salt to injury, they renamed it Gowon stadium. “Many of us, who are now enjoying the fruits of liberty, may not truly appreciate what it meant to be dominated, dispossessed, deprived, exploited and oppressed, in your own land by the dominant social and political tendencies of the time. “Before Rivers State was created, our people could not find schools in their neighbourhood, hospitals to treat the sick, universities to educate their children, decent jobs to earn income and good roads to their communities.” https://www.tribuneonlineng.com/36078/ 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: . by frankfrancis871: 10:50am On Oct 08, 2018 |
xfactor23:Thank you, you understand me perfectly even the ancient greeks found amongst themselves (the spartans etc) and the germans like you said. Igbos and other Biafrans are great people that will become leaders when Biafra comes because we have all it takes! If we start spewing venoms like them, our freedom as a great nation will be delayed The real hausas are not populated as exaggerated but the northerners unite together for one thing 'to destroy Igbos'. Igbos are in trouble that's why I'm relocating with nothing this year. If you want I can tell you more about Igbo in the north 2 Likes |
Re: . by GuyWise(m): 10:57am On Oct 08, 2018 |
Looking at Wike, he's very ambitious, very soon he would seek to take our place in the national discussion and the Ikwerre mainstream would tone down on their Igbophobia, while the few Igbophilic ones amongst them would become more vociferous in their Igbo unity message, and we would be set to be used and dumped again. I am tired of these my brothers from SE who seemed not be ashamed of the fact that these smaller groups are using and dumping us whenever they deemed it fit to do so, Are we that common? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: . by ghostfacekillar(m): 11:12am On Oct 08, 2018 |
frankfrancis871:tell us |
Re: . by superlightning: 11:13am On Oct 08, 2018 |
pazienza: Pazienza, your grammar is not enough to REDRAW THE IGBO MAP OF OVER 5000 years old. ASA, ndoki have their kins in abia state answering same name in abia state. You won't change their ethnicity for them. You are balkanizing igboland and I will not support such. Stop living only in the present. You know nothing about the future. |
Re: . by superlightning: 11:16am On Oct 08, 2018 |
xfactor23: Thank you my brother. Ignore pazienza. He still reasons like a juvenile |
Re: . by xfactor23: 11:25am On Oct 08, 2018 |
frankfrancis871:Please, do tell us about Igbos in the North. We are here to learn. |
Re: . by superlightning: 11:46am On Oct 08, 2018 |
pazienza: It is your type that aggravate the Igbophobia we already have. Gowon apologized to the asaba igbos and by extension other Igbo where acts tantamount to genocide were carried out. Google and stop spewing hate here. If I should name my street GOWON STREET, how does it take away my igbo culture? Its just politics! Do you how may edifices and structures named after the likes of Nnamdi Azikiwe, Alvan ikoku, Ndubuisi KANU, aguiyi Ironsi, ebitu ukiwe, etc in other parts of Nigeria? Its pure politics! OK stop using the 20naira note and 100naira notes in your ANAMBRA or Enugu, etc because the men whose portrait are there instigated Igbo genocide, okay? Guo ishi gi. |
Re: . by frankfrancis871: 11:46am On Oct 08, 2018 |
ghostfacekillar:Ok I will try.. There are many Igbos in the north, I was born and brought up in Nasarawa. Let me tell you something, every election Igbos run back to their homeland to prevent death because they can just start killing Igbos over any unwarranted little annoyance like the quit notice. I will focus on how we escape death in north even though it is good for business e.g the october quit notice 2017 was the first year I hear about Nnamdi Kanu and how serious agitation for Biafra was but I showed less interest until the quit notice. Most Igbos were scared to death and most just smiled and we went about our normal business and work without fear. We are used to been butchered and nothing will happen, the only thing we controlled there is the economic. Many people sent their wife and children home, many returned, my mum was scared to death. She got thinner of this because of how she lost her father during the pogrom in 1966 and grow up an orphan, I wanted to return with her but changed my mind. Many Igbos urged their brethren to calm down and that nothing will happen. When I go to the street you see people discussing this matter, some felt bad for us but most wanted us out of their lives. They believe we have dominated them enough, you will see little children less than 12 discussing how they will stab Igbos with knife and take whatever they wanted from our shops please note that not all of them hates Igbos but all of them suffer from Igbophobia. I will continue when I get your permissions, I need Igbos in east and west to see how things are with Igbos here. 3 Likes |
Re: . by OreMI22: 11:55am On Oct 08, 2018 |
superlightning: I think that guy's problem is that he tried unsucessfully to date an Ikwerre girl. But seriously, we know there are squabbles in every clan including the Yorubas or Fulanis. I agree that the SE igbos should not always turn their back to be used. If a negotiated benefit cannot happen with our Ikwerre brothers, then everyone should go it alone. But not to come to nairaland to spew hate against othe Igbo groups. I also agree the SE should not be made to depend on facilities in the SS - including the SS airports. Igbos should LEARN to build their own facilities than agree to attach to anybody's facilities. I vividly remember in 1980s, Igbos used to queue up for admission at Uniport, and it brought unprecedented tension with Ikwerre and Ijaw people. Gov Jim Nwobodo as an astute administrator got Prof Kenneth Dike (1st U.I Vice Chancellor) and other notable professors and set up a State University with Campuses in Abakaliki, Awka and Nnewi ! That school satisfied the urge for Igbos to go to Uniport and UNN. Soon enough, Sam Mbakwe did the same thing in Uturu, Imo State. Igbos should learn to build facilities they need in their land. If Igbos can do that, they will solve 80% of their problems in Nigeria because the other people simply want to use Igbo numbers to run their facilities. While reminding Igbos at every juncture that they don't belong. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: . by GuyWise(m): 11:56am On Oct 08, 2018 |
Frankfrancis871 Stop being afraid of any abok! buy your own Ak47 and hide, when they start their madness kill as many as you can before going down. 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: . by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 11:57am On Oct 08, 2018 |
superlightning: Biafra will lose big time if you consider others for referendum Cos they will vote against Biafra. The only reason Biafra is bloody is because we are tagging others along, Nigeria believes they are the ones with the oil and wouldn't let Biafra happen. Again, they think it's an Igbo runs and are ready to exterminate Igbo to stop that. So, since they believe it's just for Igbo advantage, Igbos should fight for it alone. The referendum should be restricted to Igbo people only, that way, the pass rate will be high. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: . by OreMI22: 12:01pm On Oct 08, 2018 |
frankfrancis871: Oga, Any Igbo in the north has partly sacrificed his life already. It is like enlisting in the army in a wartime. You should be prepared for it. But i say to you guys again, make money and relocate to Burkina Faso or Niamey instead of living in northern Nigeria. I know this is like pouring water on stone, because you guys already made up your minds. So stay, but be ready to fight to the death. At least to defend your family and your business. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: . by superlightning: 12:03pm On Oct 08, 2018 |
InyinyaAgbaOku: The idea intends achieving two things - 1. Determine those who identify as biafrans 2. Determine those who want a seperate Biafra republic. This is because not all Biafra minded Igbo want a new Biafra republic |
Re: . by superlightning: 12:04pm On Oct 08, 2018 |
InyinyaAgbaOku: The idea intends achieving two things - 1. Determine those who identify as biafrans 2. Determine those who want a seperate Biafra republic. This is because not all Biafra minded Igbo want a new Biafra republic That is IPOB's idea. I know these guys. |
Re: . by frankfrancis871: 12:04pm On Oct 08, 2018 |
GuyWise:Sir you won't understand. I will also reveal what happened on that day, Nasarawa is not hausaland, these people were brainwashed to see Igbos as their problem. Hausas are friendly but they can kill when it comes to religion, hatred and politics I will reveal more facts, stay tune |
Re: . by frankfrancis871: 12:07pm On Oct 08, 2018 |
OreMI22:I'm relocating this year but its painful to start afresh 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: . by GuyWise(m): 12:09pm On Oct 08, 2018 |
frankfrancis871:As far as North is concerned no one likes you, be ready to deal with them anytime don't be scared get your own hard weapon and defend yourself or you will be killed like a goat. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: . by UgwuAghachi: 12:10pm On Oct 08, 2018 |
If you have read Robert Greene's book, principles of war. See the best way to solve a problem is calling out your hater to the public to openly define his intentions and feelings towards you. We need to call out Ikwerre people on national TV and ask them whether they are Igbo or not. 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: . by OreMI22: 12:12pm On Oct 08, 2018 |
frankfrancis871: Yes, it's painful to start afresh but more painful to be killed and your corpse burnt with your shop. Just relocate Bro! It's not even worth it to live in northern Nigeria. 2 Likes |
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